Doug and Gator give several possibilities Lions GM Brad Holmes could explore this offseason.
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00:00Here's the thing
00:02Miles Garrett to the Lions is
00:06Such a no-brainer, right? It's such a no-brainer
00:11They need an edge rusher. Why not go get opposite of Aiden Hutchinson? Why not go get the best one available?
00:18That's true of a number of positions, right? You could say the same thing a cornerback about a corner because of Carlton Davis's contract situation
00:26So you always want to go get the best available the edge rusher is a very very sexy exciting position
00:33Why would Brad Holmes and we played a whole bunch of sound for you and that was the tenor of his time whenever the edge
00:40rusher topic came up
00:41You heard what it sounded like
00:44It was we have other guys who we have to sign people
00:46We we it was the message. I think he was getting across over and over again is
00:52We can't afford him, why wouldn't they go get the best player available to position of need?
00:57Because it's so obvious and a guy that's been very smart here in Detroit is sending the message
01:04because we can't afford him and I
01:09Whether it's true or not, I mean, I guess that's subject to debate
01:13if you want to talk about if you're comfortable with losing a
01:17Bunch of players that I think Brad Holmes messages. We're not comfortable with losing those guys
01:22they are core pieces to our foundation that we think we can win with and and
01:28You know that okay. Do we assume?
01:31Now that Brad Holmes is an idiot for saying not saying F them players because that's it's no longer about F them pigs
01:39It's F them players
01:41that he wouldn't be able to resign and
01:44If we had the books in front of us and he could point out well
01:47Here's why we can't afford him with everybody go. Okay, or do we all or do you just assume?
01:53As somebody did yesterday. He's arrogant and just trying to win with the players. He drafted. I think it's being very smart
01:59I think this is all part of the you know negotiations on right now on a player. That's
02:03Unavailable because Cleveland has said he's unavailable. They have no plans on
02:07Trading Myles Garrett. I think that they will trade Myles Garrett
02:10I don't think it's gonna end up being to the Lions because I don't think the Lions can put together a good enough package
02:15Without really compromising the integrity of their team to do so other teams have better draft capital
02:20so that's why I think it'll happen with somebody else, but
02:24When he says that if you're inferring from that that they can't afford him again
02:28I think it's they can't afford him on a long-term deal
02:31I think they can't afford him for the remainder the remainder of his current contract that I think they can
02:38Then it's a brainer right well it would be again
02:40But then I you got to worry about the draft capital part, but when he says that they can't
02:45It may be what that does it sends a signal out to the other teams in the league not Cleveland
02:50But the other teams in the league Oh Detroit's out
02:52so we don't have to bid too crazy, and then maybe Detroit can come in at the last minute and
02:57And throw a deal that makes sense, but I do think that there's a difference between the remainder of Myles Garrett
03:04contract and what you can afford versus
03:07Signing him well to an extension which would be really prohibitive, and that's where you really have to take stock and go, okay
03:14What do we have here does this mean that we can't give an extension to some of our other key players?
03:21You know I guess if Lee in the secondary
03:23I guess if it were just about
03:25Two things one is I think if the Lions swooped in at the last minute and top the best offer those teams that made their
03:31Offers would get an opportunity to top even that it's not like they wouldn't get a chance to to up there any
03:36two is
03:39If
03:40It just if they could afford him and even now
03:43I think it would still be a no-brainer, and they would just go get him. Why aren't they just go getting him well
03:50Well the truth is he may not be available right well according to the GM
03:54Yes according to the GM, but I also I feel like yesterday. He stepped to the podium trying to let people know
04:01We can't afford Myles Garrett. Yeah, I guess I'm not buying it
04:04Okay, and you know we can agree to disagree on that
04:07I think and I definitely think that they would have room to do so you can always
04:11Redo your contracts for players that you just signed it checks out because you I
04:16Tend to think the cap is more difficult to navigate than you do and that's that goes back to the beginning of this show
04:21Two four eight five three nine ninety seven ninety seven all right people
04:24How do you interpret what Brad Holmes had to say and then the other thing is if okay?
04:30they address the pass rush and
04:33The defense they don't get Myles Garrett, but it keeps it area Smith
04:40They draft Kenneth Grant and
04:44Sign and if a more affordable free agent
04:50Khalil Mac is
04:53That would that make people happy yeah
04:55I think it would even though even they get the Myles Garrett and at all cost people well
04:59But this is that would require a it's gonna require patience. Okay, and two
05:04It'll be easier to take
05:07because I
05:08Don't think either one of us if you think the Myles Garrett's gonna get dealt before the draft
05:13I don't know. I don't think he will I
05:16Think he gets dealt, but I don't think it's it's gonna be before the draft so free agency will already be
05:22We'll already be in the well past the full throes of a free agency so the Lions may very well
05:28Have a deal with Khalil Mac before the draft is done. Okay to get that ball rolling in the in that in that direction
05:35Yeah, I would take that absolutely give me Khalil Mac
05:38Give me Kenneth Grant and let's and resign or that resign him, but you he's already on the contract
05:44But you're you're willing to have the Derry Smith there. Yeah, I think that's a really nice combination to have it's short term
05:52Because you're not gonna sign Khalil Mac to some long-term extension and you'll have as a Derry Smith for one more year
05:59But that feels to me like it's a pretty good defensive line going into this season. You don't have to give up anything. Yeah, and
06:07You can do what Brad Holmes is making abundantly clear is the plan. I would think that they could still resign their own guys
06:15Now am I wrong on the market value of Khalil Mac? What is the market value of?
06:19Khalil Mac
06:22You know, I wouldn't approach the 20 million that that
06:26That can't imagine. I mean he's at the end of his career
06:29he is still a guy that can get to the quarterback and he has value and
06:35I just don't see that being him being like this 15 to 20 million dollar a year player
06:41So that's why I think you need to be patient about it
06:44another thing thrown in the mix Harold Landry
06:47From Tennessee has now been given permission to go ahead and seek a trade as well
06:51This is a guy's got 31 and a half sacks over his last three seasons. It's declined a little bit
06:56I think it went twelve and a half to
06:58To ten and then to nine nine sacks over the last three years
07:01But it's still a lot of production in three years and he's in the last year of his contract that pays him
07:07I think it's over 17 million dollars for this season
07:10Would the Lions be involved in a trade to acquire
07:14Harold Landry or do you just simply watch this one and see if Harold Landry is he a candidate to be released?
07:20He appears to be under contract for two more years. It's 17.5
07:24which approaches miles Garrett money and I'm gonna guess that's probably not affordable for them, but
07:31But it's less than miles Garrett
07:33It's less than miles Garrett not much less
07:35But it's less than miles Garrett as far as cap hits concerned and it's less than miles Garrett in terms of what you'd have to
07:40Give up to acquire him. All right. This is the hot-button issue when it comes to the Lions this season is
07:45is
07:47You know, there's that big bright shiny thing out there and you have a GM that's downplaying this
07:53Are you okay?
07:55with their approach which their approach if you believe him is
07:58Is we can't afford this player or more we have to bring back our own guys