El caso de Nahir Galarza, la joven argentina que asesinó a su novio Fernando Pastorizzo en 2017, vuelve a ser noticia con la publicación del libro "El Exilio de Nahir Galarza". La obra plantea la visión de Galarza y su entorno sobre el crimen y su condena a prisión perpetua, considerada por ellos como un "exilio". La Corte Suprema recientemente rechazó el último recurso presentado por la defensa de Galarza, confirmando su sentencia.
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00:00We have to talk about Nair Galarza, this figure that has become very well known, unfortunately, in Argentina.
00:08I remind you of some basic data.
00:11Nair was 19 years old on December 29, 2017, when in Gualeguaychú, Entre Ríos,
00:19he got on the motorcycle of his boyfriend, Fernando Pastorizo.
00:24Previously, he had taken the 9mm caliber gun from his father, a police officer from Entre Ríos.
00:31And while they were on the motorcycle, supposedly heading to his grandmother's house,
00:37Nair fired twice.
00:39A shot in the back to Fernando, which made him fall.
00:43She also fell, the motorcycle skidded on the floor, ended up on the ground.
00:48And then Nair returned to wield the gun to execute Fernando Pastorizo with a second shot,
00:56when he was lying on the floor.
00:58What we are telling is what justice has validated in an oral trial,
01:04in the House of Representatives, in the Superior Court of Justice of Entre Ríos,
01:09and also in the Supreme Court of Justice of the Nation.
01:14Nair Galarza has given interviews.
01:16A documentary has been made about Nair.
01:19A fiction film has been made.
01:21Throughout all this time, Nair was proposing different defense strategies,
01:28because at first she assured that she did not know what had happened to her boyfriend.
01:34As soon as she found him, the police killed him.
01:37No, I did not see it.
01:38I had nothing to do with Fernando's death.
01:41She denied it to the mother of the murdered teenager himself.
01:47Then she changed.
01:48She ended up confessing to justice.
01:50She said, yes, I killed him.
01:52I missed the shot.
01:53Then she raised a situation of supposed violence by Fernando.
01:57I defended myself from that violence.
02:00Then she changed the story.
02:02She said, no, actually what happened was that my father did not accept the relationship
02:07and it was he who murdered Fernando.
02:10A change of version after another.
02:13Justice did not believe her, but she managed to locate herself in a place,
02:17in the face of a certain part of the public opinion, as a victim.
02:21That is why this is important, what we are going to tell you today, in detail.
02:25She reappears now, holding this situation again,
02:29from a book and from a presentation that will be at a book fair in Chaco.
02:36Of course, because it is a book that poses the exile of Nair.
02:40In some way, and now we are going to review some fragments
02:44and you will be able to draw your own conclusions listening to the author.
02:48Victimizes at some point or puts her in a different situation
02:52with respect to others arrested for similar cases.
02:55Nair has something.
02:57Nair draws attention to society for its beauty, for the type of sentence,
03:02for how he has declared when he had to declare about the murder.
03:07It is a case that for Argentines is not a case anymore.
03:11No, not at all. It touches many fibers of our society.
03:15We are not talking about a criminal case,
03:19but there is, if you want, a divided tribune.
03:23Not, in my opinion, we will see which is the one of Sole too,
03:26the one of justice is, Nair is a murderer.
03:30It does not matter the age she was, it does not matter her gender.
03:33It is a person who took the life of another.
03:36But there is a part of society that maintains that justice was excessively hard with Nair Galarza
03:41because she is a woman, that she has been condemned in an express way,
03:47if you want, without taking into account certain situations that Nair claims to have lived
03:53and that a gender perspective was never taken into account.
03:59This is what the defense of Nair has been raising little by little and over time,
04:04they have raised it from their surroundings,
04:06and now that is reflected in a book that is titled as the exile of Nair Galarza.
04:13What exile does it refer to?
04:15Well, Nair is in prison.
04:17Sole, this is evident.
04:19But what for anyone is the confinement
04:23that goes behind a sentence to life imprisonment?
04:28From the point of view of Vanessa Guglielmi, with whom we are going to talk,
04:31and of Nair herself, this is an exile.
04:35Let us remember something that the Supreme Court,
04:37a few weeks ago, actually,
04:39gave up the last resource it had presented
04:43and that somehow confirmed, with that rejection,
04:46the life imprisonment for Nair Galarza.
04:48But from the first moment they wanted to make it seem like it was a joke,
04:53because she was a woman, because she was the first girl who was going to have a life imprisonment.
04:57Because justice had almost been healed with Nair.
04:59Yes, but in reality, let's see, the evidence was in a forceful way,
05:03even the Security Chamber.
05:05And I tell you one thing, and with respect to the controversy that Nair generates in society,
05:09this book, which is about to be presented,
05:12comes with controversy, beyond its title, exile, or perhaps the position it takes.
05:17Look at the controversy it generates,
05:19that at some point this presentation was promoted,
05:22accompanied by the government of Chaco, accompanied by the Ministry of Culture.
05:26With an official seal.
05:27With an official seal.
05:28And the public body itself goes out and says,
05:31we do not endorse this book, we are leaving this presentation.
05:35And they had to remove the seal.
05:36Yes, but the presentation is going to be held anyway.
05:39It is scheduled for February 21st.
05:41Nair Galarza is going to speak from prison.
05:45He is going to present, he is going to endorse this book, this publication,
05:49which we are already going to start reviewing,
05:51and which contains, among other things,
05:53paintings that Nair Galarza has made in prison.
05:58Obviously there is a whole controversy that surrounds this situation,
06:02because there is a victim in this case, who is called Fernando Pastorizo,
06:06who has parents, who has friends, who no longer have Fernando,
06:11and who understand that the only exile that exists here is Fernando's.
06:16Fernando was removed from his place.
06:19Who? Nair Galarza.
06:21Nair Galarza, why is she exiled, they ask.
06:23She is not actually exiled, she is separated from society
06:26for what she herself has done.
06:29This is what justice understands, this is the controversy,
06:32and there are certain groups that are arguing
06:35that Nair should have another view of society.
06:39And with Nair's own words, they are trying to reinforce this idea,
06:43Sole, because Nair, in this book that we are presenting here,
06:48has written things like this.
06:51We are all passive-aggressive.
06:53Killing is a dilemma.
06:56It is an ethical, complex dilemma.
06:59If you had to kill someone to save yourself or save someone, would you do it?
07:04Nair Galarza wonders.
07:06She presents it as if in all of us there is a possible killer.
07:11In some way, what she is proposing is an idea that some criminalists hold,
07:16which is that anyone in certain situations can kill.
07:22It is an idea that I personally do not share.
07:25It is up to you to choose whether you kill or not.
07:27Of course, it seems to me that it does not apply to Nair's case either.
07:30Why? And we are going to talk to the author of this book
07:34so that she can explain to us where these words come from.
07:37But here is a question.
07:39Nair tried to prove that she was a victim of gender violence.
07:43She did it late.
07:44She could not do it in the oral trial,
07:47but it was something that she raised in her defense later.
07:50And remember something.
07:51To raise, Javier, I'll give you a pass.
07:53To raise that she was a victim of gender violence
07:57is to raise that the victim was violent.
08:00In other words, that Fernando Pastorizzo, who was an innocent boy,
08:03who could not defend himself, was violent.
08:08That he committed a crime, obviously totally condemnable,
08:12if it had happened, which is to be aggressive
08:14and be violent with a woman, Javier.
08:16Let's remember something.
08:17That crime, she does it with a short-range shot.
08:21The first shot was from behind.
08:23It was Fernando Pastorizzo.
08:24When they were on the motorcycle.
08:25When he falls, he shoots him on the ground.
08:27The two shots have an entrance and exit hole.
08:30That is, not only because of the power of the shot,
08:32but because it was from a short distance.
08:34And let's remember a sentence.
08:36About what she tries with this sentence in the book.
08:39To make believe.
08:41The thief believes that everyone is of the same condition.
08:44And the murderer thinks exactly the same.
08:46But Javier, I'll tell you something.
08:48She now says this.
08:50Because she had different versions over time
08:52about what had happened.
08:53In fact, she said she accused her own father.
08:55Yes.
08:56And she still has her lawyers, her defense.
09:01She turned to the Inter-American Court of Human Rights
09:03with this case.
09:04She does not stay here in the Supreme Court.
09:06She will continue until the last consequences
09:08to reverse this failure.
09:09Which is, let's say, if one sees the cause,
09:11it is very difficult for her to do it.
09:13But at least what she does is a public defense.
09:16And she does this public defense with this book.
09:18Yes. She also made a series.
09:20Yes, yes.
09:21Let's see.
09:22And a documentary.
09:23Let's see what her intention is.
09:26Play by play.
09:28Well, last sentence that we review before going to the author.
09:31God always gives us this famous albedo,
09:33this possibility to choose what to do or not to do.
09:35But in my case, it was not like that.
09:37It was not a decision, it was not planned, thought.
09:40It was just something that exploded.
09:42In a way, she puts with this phrase
09:45the responsibility of what she did on the outside.
09:50No, I was the one who decided to kill.
09:53I was the one who decided to kill.
09:55It was a situation that led me
09:57to be involved in a violent situation
10:00in which I had no power of decision.
10:04This is what Nair Galarza raises.
10:06That's why we say this book is controversial.
10:09Nair Galarza is controversial.
10:11She is not a person who is asking for forgiveness for what she did.
10:15She is not a person who is, in some way,
10:18showing empathy with the family of Fernando Pastorizzo,
10:22but she is someone who is desperately looking
10:25to get rid of the responsibility.
10:28At least publicly, as Cecilia said,
10:31they will go to the Inter-American Court of Human Rights,
10:34the lawyers of Nair Galarza,
10:36who is already 26 years old at this time,
10:39but all the judicial avenues in Argentina are exhausted.
10:43All the courts said,
10:45Nair Galarza is a murderer.
10:49Nair Galarza killed.
10:51She made the decision.
10:53There is no need to show that it was a plan.
10:55She made the decision, and there we see Nair
10:57leaving the place where Fernando Pastorizzo
11:01had been shot and had died.
11:04The scene of the crime, Javier, as you say,
11:07what justice raises is that she consciously killed.
11:12She pressed the trigger twice.
11:15She did it knowing what she was doing,
11:18the consequences of her actions,
11:21and she took a human life.
11:23That's why she was in perpetual prison.
11:25Let's go back to the stage of the book.
11:27This book, as we told you,
11:29will be presented shortly, very shortly.
11:31It generates controversy for the position it takes.
11:33It is exile, directly, the word.
11:36Exile is what it proposes.
11:38Is it a person who really suffers an exile,
11:41who had to leave an unjust place,
11:43or is it a person condemned by his actions?
11:46When you talk about exile,
11:48you are talking about someone who is forced
11:51to leave his land, his place,
11:54for reasons other than his will.
11:57Of course, Nair does not want to be in prison,
12:00but the situation that has taken her from her place,
12:04from her house, from the house where she lived
12:06with her mother and father,
12:08is what she did.
12:10It is a crime in the eyes of justice.