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👉 Hernán, un residente de Mallín Ahogado, relata su experiencia durante los recientes incendios que afectaron la región. Sugiere que estos desastres podrían estar vinculados a intereses inmobiliarios, ya que las tierras afectadas disminuyen su valor y muchos residentes se ven obligados a abandonar sus hogares. Además, se discute el impacto de estos eventos en las empresas locales y la economía de la zona.
''Estamos destruidos''.

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00:00We are in the lower part of Wharton. We started to visit different places in Machinogado and we met with Luis.
00:07Luis, you were just telling me, I had to leave everything and go without knowing when I would return and with whom I would meet.
00:13Yes, good morning. Well, on Thursday a fire started here on the way to El Cajon.
00:18I was working and well, my daughter told me and I looked at the mountain range and there were already two fires.
00:26So, well, I grabbed the motorcycle, I told some neighbors and we went to see if we could do something.
00:32And nothing, the fire was so strong, the wind that it started ...
00:36At the end you could get close to that fire?
00:38No, at 30 meters it was already strong.
00:41At times we tried to go through to make a short-circuit and we had to go back.
00:48Who do you live with here?
00:50I live here with my daughter and well, the two of us.
00:54How old is your daughter?
00:55My daughter is 19 years old.
00:57So, well, I went and the fire closed us with some colleagues and we had to go back.
01:03And in the meantime you left your daughter here?
01:05Yes, when I went, because nothing, first time I live this and there is no experience or anything.
01:13Did you think the fire was going to get here?
01:14No, no, I never thought.
01:16The fire, anyway, the first day did not pass through this place.
01:21It took a south direction and went to Route 86.
01:26In 40 minutes it reached Route 86.
01:29How do you rebuild everything now, Luis? With your daughter, you, everything that was, is taken away?
01:34And now, well, start from scratch with the issue of the wires, perimetral,
01:39put together everything that was left.
01:43Well, thank God something was saved, the house, some constructions and well, nothing, start again.
01:51Thank you very much.
01:56Unfortunately, it is what we always say, waiting for nature, looking at the sky to see if it is going to rain,
02:02did not help the very little water that fell yesterday.
02:06Alejandro Puebla, good day 24, tell us where you are and what is happening there.
02:10The beginning, where practically all the fire started, the flames destroyed with Wharton.
02:21In the lower part, near the Blue River, is the most complex part,
02:25that's why we started talking to different neighbors,
02:27places where there is not even a signal with satellite, the situation is very complex,
02:34there are totally isolated people, people who have lost everything,
02:37who have no contact with the outside, and who are trying to recover the rubble,
02:43they are eating what they can, the cattle they had, many have lost it,
02:48the gardens have been consumed by the flames, and to rebuild for many it is difficult,
02:54many say they want to leave, that they will not rebuild again,
02:57and the situation ends up being dramatic and sad.
03:00I'm looking behind you, I look at the clear sky, totally a small cloud over there,
03:06Alejandro, look, it could be in some other framework a beautiful landscape,
03:12the weather forecast does not speak of rain there, does it?
03:16No, no, rain is not expected, and the rains that came, although they brought a little calm,
03:22were not the solution to the problem, because the roots of the trees have been lit,
03:27now there are some spotlights here in Wharton that the planes are trying to work,
03:33the only good and positive thing is that at this time there is no wind,
03:36but a lot of wind is expected in the afternoon,
03:38well, they are all now working hard to try to suffocate those small spotlights
03:44that in the afternoon can become a complication.
03:46Of course, I'm going to go there, to the other screen,
03:49Mercedes was telling me about a kind of festival that is going to be, right?
03:53Yes, it became known in the last hours, the truth is that they put Tiago PZK,
03:59Tiago PZK,
04:00PZK, he made a very important donation, he began to collect at least 10 million pesos,
04:05but artists like Bizarrap, La Renga, the fundamentalists of air conditioning, Razer King,
04:10begin to confirm their participation in what is going to be a beneficial festival
04:15to raise funds for the reconstruction of the Bolsón,
04:18I was saying it recently, there are a huge number of people who do not feel like it.
04:21Mumi, this is added to streamers who have gathered in Mernuel broadcasts,
04:25Mernuel is a growing streamer who gathered 4 million, almost 4 million pesos in a stream,
04:30also a live broadcast for 10 hours looking for funds and also achieved it.
04:35Coscu, who is the best known streamer in Argentina, if you want,
04:38also gathered other colleagues to gather that money to be able to broadcast it.
04:43Alejandro, I was shocked by what you said, which is understandable, on the other hand,
04:47but there are people who adore the Bolsón, who dreamed all their lives of moving there,
04:52to dedicate themselves to crafts or to make, I don't know, typical products,
04:56and you say that there are many, Alejandro, who do not want more, they want to leave, right?
05:02Yes, they have nothing left, Luis, so the only thing left is...
05:10There we have a small problem with...
05:12That they can help...
05:13There it is, there I see you, yes, tell me, tell me what I see.
05:16What I was saying quickly is that they have nothing left,
05:19neither did they have the land to be able to work,
05:22because it is so burned that they do not have the possibility to work it,
05:26and the animals, many have lost everything, the chickens, everything they had to survive,
05:30they have nothing left of all that.
05:33They can give food and so on, yes, but they do not have a bottle, they do not have a kitchen,
05:36they do not have a refrigerator, they do not have a mattress, they do not have a house, they do not have a wall,
05:39well, the fire has taken everything, they have asked for some tents to re-inhabit the places,
05:44but what do they do with their families?
05:46Well, the situation is too complex, and the construction, the reconstruction of many things is also expensive.
05:52Well, tourism will be limited.
05:55Many people who lived from tourism, now they will not have the money for that tourism.
06:00Well, the situation is too emergency and urgent to attend to these families, Luis,
06:05who are now in an evacuation center in the center of El Bolsón.
06:08I confess that I am totally ignorant about the consequences on the land for the cultivation of fires,
06:15but as far as I know, well, you anticipated it, the ash puts the earth to the ground,
06:21that is, it makes the earth infertile.
06:23You are saying, correct me, but I have no idea, it is only superficial.
06:30Not only the ash, Luis, but everything has been burned,
06:33so many nutrients or parts of what worked,
06:36you have to do a great excavation, you have to get back to the fertile land,
06:41you have to try to plant again, collect a lot.
06:44And those who already had the garden armed, already had tomatoes to consume, lettuce, basil,
06:50well, different fruits.
06:52Here is an area where Diego is going to show in the background that there are many apple trees.
06:57Well, there was not a single apple tree left standing, they were consumed by the flames.
07:01So the daily food they had, the orange trees, all those things,
07:06they have nothing left, lemons, lemon trees that have been swept away by the fire.
07:10Well, there are many people who moved to do this, to plant fruit trees, to make products.
07:17A little while ago you were talking with Hernán, another of the villagers,
07:21I want us to share this note, please.
07:25I had to fight until the last moment, Hernán, you were just telling me,
07:28but there came a time when you had to resign and leave everything.
07:31Yes, how are you doing?
07:33As it was, we were trying to defend, we wet the house, we set up the motorbike pump,
07:39we saw the fire on the other side that advanced and advanced, the answer did not arrive.
07:44And we got ...
07:46The height of the flames?
07:48The flames doubled the size of the trees, I calculate 20 meters, 25 meters in front.
07:54In front there is a very large pine forest, that the pines, when they light up,
07:58they have an impressive temperature, very difficult to defend.
08:04And the fire crossed the river and in less than 15 minutes we had it on top of the house.
08:10How does it feel to see that now consumed, to see this?
08:17You, 38 years ago, you came here to make your life and this was your life.
08:23Everything that was built here was your life and today to see it this way.
08:27Yes, it was my life, they were my undertakings, they were our dreams.
08:32And nothing, everything is destroyed.
08:36The truth, frankly, what do I feel when I see this?
08:40Look the other way, go for something else.
08:43This is very difficult to lift, let's say, it doesn't make sense to lift it either.
08:48Let's see what we do.
08:51It is a misfortune, the worst misfortune is that this was done voluntarily.
08:56Someone started lighting these fires, so nothing, we have to move on.
09:03You just said that the fires are intentional.
09:08Now, what idea do you have about that? What can you express to us?
09:13Look, that's the most difficult question.
09:16What will be the reason behind the people who light these fires?
09:20What we do know is that behind this comes a real estate race,
09:25that the values of the land are going to go down a lot,
09:28that many people are not going to dare to stay,
09:31that many people will not have the strength to do it again.
09:34I believe that the real estate business is always behind the fires.
09:40There are fields that I have observed, places of very powerful people that have not been affected by anything.
09:46And I have had to go through personal evidence.
09:49I have seen that it has happened to the houses of the humble people.
09:53Do you think there is something behind that?
09:55Look, I could not say that there is a certain intentionality at that level,
10:00but it is striking that national parks are being burned,
10:03forest reserves are being burned,
10:06neighborhoods that are expensive but do not live people with money are being burned,
10:11and the properties of millionaires are not being burned,
10:14or the fields of foreigners are not being burned.
10:18That is striking.
10:20I could not say that there is something that connects it,
10:23but it is convenient for another millionaire to come later and buy the cheaper land.
10:29Hernán, did you ever feel helpless yesterday, the day before yesterday, when the flames attacked you?
10:36Not helpless.
10:38The help of the people is very present.
10:42It is what keeps us strong.
10:45The collaborations, the messages.
10:49We also know that the institutions are collapsing.
10:52This is not over yet.
10:53Yesterday was a very fierce day.
10:55The fire was very close to the homes.
10:57So nothing.
10:58The help is coming little by little.
11:02We trust the will of the institutions.
11:05We know that the answer sometimes takes a while to arrive.
11:10Let's hope it is as soon as possible.
11:13Above all, the immediate answer is to be able to be in the territory,
11:17to be able to have lighting, communication, and to be able to cook and sleep.
11:23Then we will see the reconstruction.
11:25With what force is it being rebuilt?
11:27With the strength of those who help us.
11:30Frankly, one alone, nothing.
11:33Put your arms down.
11:34But there are so many people behind that we are not going to put them down.
11:37There are people who do not want to talk, who have not fallen yet.
11:40At first you told me, I have to tell you, because if not, no one will know.
11:45As it is.
11:46There are many invisible people.
11:48There is a rural population that does not access, that does not access things, that does not access help,
11:53that does not have friends, that does not have acquaintances, that does not know anything important.
11:57I think that those of us who have more acquaintances out there,
12:01we can come out in some way,
12:03we are the ones who have to make this visible and try to make that help reach those people.
12:08Do you have the strength to continue, Hernán?
12:09Yes, always.
12:11You too.
12:12A pleasure.
12:15There is like a different mysticism of the people who are going to live in the south.
12:20He lost everything.
12:21There you are seeing, this was the complex of cabins that he had.
12:24He lost absolutely everything.
12:26Alejandro Puebla just said it.
12:28And he continues to invoke this of having strength.
12:32Hopefully, apart from waiting for nature, invoking spirituality, help will arrive.
12:38It is now.
12:39Review and to close, Mumi, of the consequences of this, which were more than,
12:44I do not want to get my foot in it, 15,000 hectares that were burned.
12:47Exactly, in the south of our country.
12:49Now there is also an important focus on what is the Lanín National Park.
12:53That is the last report they sent very early this morning.
12:58But the truth is that what I told you before about how to rebuild everything that happened in the Bolsón,
13:05I think that to see it back as it was, we will not be alive.
13:08It takes many years to rebuild a forest in this way.

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