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00:00It's still a cold day in this season.
00:06Have you ever had an influenza vaccine?
00:09Yes, I have.
00:11How was it?
00:12It was really cold.
00:13I cry sometimes.
00:14It's the end of the year, so it's really early.
00:17I also play baseball.
00:19When I hit a dead ball or a sliding ball.
00:23It hurts a lot.
00:25When I'm playing in the afternoon,
00:27I fall on the playground.
00:28It hurts a lot.
00:30What do you do at that time?
00:31I have no choice but to endure it.
00:32I have no choice but to endure it.
00:34In addition, we feel various pains in our daily lives,
00:40such as chronic pain such as back pain and headache.
00:46It hurts when I hit my little finger.
00:48That's it for this episode.
00:51Can't you do something about the pain?
00:56This week has begun.
00:58We got 6 points!
01:00Yay!
01:02Today, we have Moriko Fukuda.
01:08You have a lot of goods.
01:10No, no, no.
01:11It's no joke.
01:12I was an announcer for the RKB daily broadcast in Fukuoka from the first year to the fourth year.
01:19I also went to the HKT theater.
01:22Did you go to Murashige?
01:23I think so.
01:24You don't remember, do you?
01:26I think I've been there.
01:27I'm sure I've been there.
01:28Really?
01:29So you two have the same roots.
01:31Yes.
01:32There is a difference now.
01:34There is a difference.
01:36It's a secret.
01:38I'm sure there is.
01:39It's a secret.
01:40I know Murashige.
01:41At the theater today,
01:43he talked about how his jaw was broken.
01:45It was in the era of TV Tokyo.
01:47What is that?
01:49His jaw was broken.
01:51There was a crack in the bone of his jaw.
01:53That was the most painful.
01:55That's crazy.
01:56He had 8 stitches under his jaw.
01:58There was a crack in his jaw.
02:00He broke 5 teeth.
02:02It was a disaster.
02:04How can you talk about that?
02:07Today's theme is...
02:08Can't you do something about the pain?
02:10I can't think of anything.
02:12I can't think of any VTR.
02:14I got it.
02:15I can't think of any VTR.
02:18Stop it.
02:19Today's theme is...
02:21Can't you do something about the pain?
02:23When you have a itch,
02:25it's better to feel the pain.
02:28It's better to feel the pain differently.
02:32It's better to feel the pain differently.
02:34What do you think?
02:35I think it's better to feel the pain with the pain.
02:39More pain?
02:40Yes.
02:41If you hit your little finger,
02:42hit your little finger with your hand.
02:44What?
02:46It hurts, doesn't it?
02:48It's a rock.
02:49Let's watch the rest of the story.
02:52Ouch!
02:55After this,
02:56the one with the strongest will reduce the pain.
03:01What?
03:02Are you kidding me?
03:07The pain of an injection that children are not good at.
03:12The continuous pain from the pain.
03:16The pain that can't be avoided in life.
03:20Is there any way to deal with this?
03:24I want to know.
03:25When we investigate,
03:26there seems to be a person in Fukuoka who is doing research to soothe the pain.
03:31Let's get started.
03:34Hello, everyone.
03:36I'm Shunsuke Iwamoto.
03:38Nice to meet you.
03:39I'm Gotchan.
03:41Mr. Shunsuke Iwamoto, who is active as a talent actor.
03:47He starred in the hit drama Sanctuary, which was set in the world of sumo.
03:53He is also active as an American football player.
03:59Mr. Iwamoto, how do you feel about the pain?
04:02I've been exposed to pain since I was a kid.
04:05If it's just a little pain, it's no big deal.
04:10Mr. Iwamoto, who is very good at dealing with pain, came to a building in Tenjin.
04:17There is a person who can solve the pain here.
04:22Hello.
04:24I'm Iwamoto. Nice to meet you.
04:26I'm Nijima from X-CRAWLER. Nice to meet you.
04:29He doesn't seem to be good at dealing with pain.
04:34Mr. Nijima developed something to solve the pain.
04:43This is a VR goggle.
04:45VR goggle?
04:47Yes.
04:48How?
04:49VR goggle?
04:51At first glance, it doesn't seem to have anything to do with pain.
04:55When I put on the VR goggle,
05:00Wow.
05:03A video like a planetarium is playing now.
05:07Welcome to the world of Therapia VR.
05:11By breathing while watching the VR video,
05:15I'm so sleepy.
05:17Please don't sleep.
05:18Then, please take a relaxed and comfortable position.
05:22It means to follow the instructions in the narration.
05:24Yes.
05:25When the sphere gets bigger, breathe in.
05:28When it gets smaller, breathe out.
05:31Breathe in from your nose.
05:39Breathe out slowly from your mouth.
05:46When you breathe out, feel your body relax.
05:53Just by breathing in according to the VR video,
05:57it is said that the pain will be softened.
06:00Really?
06:01Let's see if it really works.
06:05Here it is.
06:06Yes.
06:07Datsumo.
06:08Yes.
06:09Ha ha ha ha ha.
06:10Datsumo with a VR goggle.
06:12Does it hurt?
06:13Does it disappear?
06:15Men's Datsumo Salon is right next to Nishitetsu Station.
06:22This is waxed Datsumo.
06:24Is it waxed Datsumo?
06:25Yes.
06:26Oh, it's like a punishment game.
06:28Is it really a punishment game?
06:29Mr. Iwamoto is the first to experience waxed Datsumo.
06:33Can I try it?
06:34First, he will try it without a VR goggle.
06:38It looks painful.
06:39It's swollen.
06:40Only a part of it.
06:42Here we go.
06:433, 2, 1.
06:44Oh.
06:45Ah.
06:46Ah.
06:47Ah.
06:48Damn it.
06:50It hurts.
06:51I'm sorry.
06:52It hurts.
06:53It's like a momentary pain.
06:54It's like a momentary pain.
06:55It doesn't last for a long time.
06:56But it does tingle a little after it's over.
06:58Can I try it with a VR goggle?
07:00Ha ha ha ha.
07:02Next, he will try it with a VR goggle.
07:07Hmm.
07:08No.
07:09I think I'll be pulled back to reality.
07:11Breathe.
07:14When does it hurt?
07:17Breathe slowly from your mouth.
07:23Will the pain change?
07:30What?
07:31What?
07:32No reaction?
07:33Is he sleeping?
07:34No, no.
07:35He should be watching a video.
07:37At first, he was in so much pain that he couldn't speak.
07:41What?
07:42When he puts on the goggles, there is no immediate reaction.
07:48Wow.
07:49Thank you for your hard work.
07:51Why?
07:52It's reduced.
07:53Really?
07:54No, no.
07:55Of course, I can see that it's peeled off.
07:58Is it peeled off?
07:59I don't care that much.
08:01It's a kind of self-hypnosis, so it may be prone to hypnosis.
08:05Hypnosis.
08:07This VR video was developed for medical purposes called Therapia VR.
08:16It is said that it makes it difficult to feel pain by concentrating the consciousness on the video and relaxing the whole body.
08:25According to the research results of the university,
08:2775% of the patients were diagnosed with hypnosis.
08:3275%?
08:33It's less than 75%.
08:35It was jointly developed with 14 universities and research institutions such as Tokyo University Hospital.
08:42It is the latest technology in the medical field.
08:47It's a great research material, so I'd like to continue to try it in various places.
08:54The experiment will continue.
08:56Next, he will experience the pain.
09:00Can you look at the sign on your left hand?
09:03It's a cattle body.
09:04Ashitsubo.
09:05Ashitsubo.
09:06Yes, Ashitsubo.
09:09The experiment was conducted at Ashitsubo Ecological Salon in Ropponmatsu.
09:15First, he will experience Ashitsubo without wearing goggles.
09:21It feels good.
09:25Wait a minute.
09:26It's coming.
09:27Suddenly.
09:32It hurts.
09:35It hurts there.
09:39I can't move my legs.
09:40Your body looks a little bad.
09:44I'm going to fall.
09:45It's so painful that I can't move my legs.
09:48I can't do it with VR.
09:52Ashitsubo is so painful that I can't move my legs.
09:57Will it soften with Therapia VR?
10:03The right hand is heavy.
10:08The left hand is heavy.
10:13How strong is it?
10:15It's as strong as before.
10:18You're lying.
10:22This is impossible.
10:25It hurts.
10:28It hurts.
10:29It's a stone.
10:30It hurts.
10:31It hurts.
10:34It's terrible.
10:37If I had been conscious of it, it wouldn't have been so painful.
10:44If it was 10, it would have been 2 or 3.
10:48It's true.
10:50I can't stand it.
11:01It hurts.
11:05Next, they came to a Chinese restaurant in Hakata.
11:12What is the pain they will experience here?
11:15What is this pain?
11:17It's a word that's a little disturbing.
11:20It's not a word you use for food.
11:24Shinigami Tantanmen.
11:26What kind of food is it?
11:29It's the spiciest chili pepper in the Guinness World Records.
11:33It's called Carolina Reaper.
11:35It's painful to eat spicy food.
11:38That's a different kind of pain.
11:40What will happen to the pain from the spiciness?
11:43I can't imagine it.
11:45It's an experiment.
11:47It's Shinigami Tantanmen.
11:51It's not for TV.
11:54It's covered with red soup and noodles.
11:58This is spicy.
12:00The spiciness is painful.
12:02The Carolina Reaper is on top of the power supply.
12:05Is this the real Carolina Reaper?
12:07Is this the red part?
12:09It's a real Carolina Reaper.
12:12It's a two-stage structure.
12:14I'll melt this.
12:17I want to eat it.
12:20The soup is thick.
12:22I don't know if it's spicy.
12:24I wonder what it tastes like.
12:29I think I can eat it.
12:33I can't feel anything for the first second.
12:37I feel like I'm being stabbed in the back of my tongue.
12:41Is it that spicy?
12:43Can you eat it?
12:45It's painful and I can't eat it.
12:47I can't eat it.
12:52The pain is on my right shoulder.
12:55I don't know if it's spicy.
12:57It's more painful than spicy.
12:59Wait a minute.
13:03The left hand is heavy.
13:05Really?
13:07It's impossible.
13:09I can't eat it.
13:15The right foot is heavy.
13:17I can eat it.
13:19Is it spicy?
13:21Of course it's spicy.
13:24It was too spicy.
13:27It wasn't spicy.
13:29It was spicy.
13:31I can speak normally.
13:34He was able to eat the noodles that he couldn't even eat before.
13:41When I compared it to when I ate it without anything,
13:45it was 2 or 3 out of 10.
13:49It's spicy now.
13:53It's less spicy now.
13:57It's true.
14:00While he was eating Shinigami Tantanmen,
14:06he drank Senburi tea.
14:10He is mean.
14:12What are you doing?
14:14Please try it.
14:25It's bitter.
14:27How is it now?
14:29It's a little bitter.
14:33It's Senburi tea.
14:35You can't drink it.
14:37You can drink it.
14:39Really?
14:41The bitterness is gone.
14:43He drank it without his goggles.
14:48It's bad.
14:50It's totally different.
14:53It's a great result as a research material.
14:57It's like a real experiment.
14:59So far, there are three different kinds of pain,
15:02such as dehydration, acne, and extreme spiciness.
15:05As a result, even the bitterness softens with Therapia VR.
15:11In order to experience the next pain,
15:15Mr. Iwamoto got naked.
15:18What?
15:20He came to Hakata Onsen in Minamiku City, Fukuoka Prefecture.
15:25I'm going to spread the pain.
15:27Hot springs are generally pleasant,
15:31but this is the pain of the original hot spring.
15:40It's too bad.
15:42It's hot.
15:44This is a famous hot spring among hot spring enthusiasts.
15:48It's impossible.
15:49I can feel the pain.
15:51It's because it's hot.
15:53I can feel the pain with my whole body.
15:55It's painful.
15:58It's hot.
16:01It's hot.
16:03It's difficult for anyone other than regular people to get in.
16:08I can get in.
16:10It's hot.
16:13It's hot.
16:20It's hot.
16:22It's hot.
16:28My legs are shaking.
16:31My legs are shaking.
16:34It's like I'm using a tatami mat.
16:38It's like I'm using a tatami mat.
16:42Will he be able to endure the hot spring of about 49 degrees with the power of VR?
16:53It's a hot spring of about 49 degrees.
16:57It's difficult for anyone other than regular people to get in.
17:02It's hot.
17:04It's hot.
17:07Will the pain from the hot spring soften when he uses the therapeutic VR?
17:15He's experimenting with his entire body.
17:17He's happy.
17:19His right leg is heavy.
17:24His right leg is heavy.
17:27It's going well.
17:30It would be scary if this was on TV right now, wouldn't it?
17:34I don't know what's going on.
17:36She's taking a bath with VR on.
17:39She's experiencing the pain.
17:41Even though she was in so much pain, she's enjoying the hot spring.
17:47I'll say it again, the temperature is 49 degrees.
17:53How is it?
17:55But it's still hot.
17:59What do you mean by hot?
18:03It's not like you're going crazy.
18:05When I first got in, it was hot, but it wasn't that hot.
18:10I was able to get in normally.
18:12After I got in, when I felt the hot water,
18:14I started to think that if I got hit by VR, I might break.
18:19That's when I started to lose my concentration.
18:21It was a little hot from then on.
18:23How hot is it now?
18:25It's about 6 or 7 degrees.
18:29It feels like I'm in a hot spring with 42 degrees of hot water.
18:35There was no hot spring, so it didn't react as a research material.
18:41It's just a research material.
18:43Mr. Nijima, a researcher, is experimenting with cameras without anesthesia.
18:48He studies the effects of therapy VR on pain.
18:55In the future, he will continue to research to reduce the burden on patients' bodies and reduce medical expenses.
19:06As a developer, I have to look at it objectively.
19:09I would appreciate it if you could cooperate in various research in the future.
19:13Leave it to me.
19:15It's a new job.
19:17So, the results of this survey show that VR may solve the pain in the near future.
19:29I thought pain was something that couldn't be helped,
19:33but it seems that it is reduced by concentrating.
19:37It is said that it will reduce the burden on the body by reducing the amount of anesthesia,
19:42such as making it easier to receive treatment by becoming absorbed in the image.
19:46Children's doctors seem to be very good.
19:49It may become commonplace.
19:52When you go to the hospital, it may become commonplace to have VR installed and wait in the waiting room.
20:00I think it has a high social contribution to reduce medical expenses in the future.
20:06As a country, I definitely want you to proceed.
20:10The angle of view is wonderful.
20:12After all, the quality of the program will increase.
20:16It may be a little influenced.
20:18That's all for this week's Hatena.
20:21See you next week!