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Host:
- Waseem Badami
Guests:
- Faisal Chaudhry (PTI Lawyer)
- Barrister Aqeel Malik PMLN
- Shahid Khaqan Abbasi (Former PM)
"Street Power Lies with Maulana Fazlur Rehman, PTI Aims to Utilize Him by Aligning with Him"
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Host:
- Waseem Badami
Guests:
- Faisal Chaudhry (PTI Lawyer)
- Barrister Aqeel Malik PMLN
- Shahid Khaqan Abbasi (Former PM)
"Street Power Lies with Maulana Fazlur Rehman, PTI Aims to Utilize Him by Aligning with Him"
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00:00Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim, Assalamu Alaikum, in today's program we will talk about two
00:16or three topics.
00:17Firstly, we will talk about what is going on between the government and the opposition.
00:23Secondly, we will talk about the form of unity that has emerged when Maulana Fadlur Rehman,
00:30Shahid Hakan Abbasi, Achak Zahi, and Mustafa Nawaz Khokhar sat at the house of Asad Qaisar
00:38and announced that they want new elections.
00:41Can this be a big movement or is it okay?
00:44This is what we will talk about.
00:46The form of unity that has emerged, I don't know if it is really called unity or not.
00:52Shahid Hakan Abbasi has been given the task of communicating with all the communities.
00:57He will also ask a segment of our guests what they think about this.
01:00There has been a very big development at the global level.
01:03When you all know about Gaza and Israel, you all know about Israel and Palestine.
01:07The Prime Minister of Israel, Netanyahu, has arrived in America.
01:11He received an extraordinary welcome.
01:13Some things are very important in terms of optics and values.
01:17Donald Trump is putting his chair back and forth.
01:19He is the one who is responsible for the blood of Palestinians from head to toe.
01:26And then not only this, but within a few hours,
01:30in two different interactions, Donald Trump not only in every possible word
01:36reassures Netanyahu, the Prime Minister of Israel, of his support,
01:39and Netanyahu not only in every possible word unifies the history of Donald Trump,
01:45but Donald Trump also clearly says in a few words that this Gaza will be empty of Palestinians.
01:51Palestinians will no longer come here.
01:53He speaks in the open words of the expansion of Israel, which we say,
01:57Tawsi Pasandana Azain.
01:58This is not an accusation.
01:59Donald Trump himself says that if there is such a big table,
02:02then Israel is equal to the point of this pen.
02:05If this table is in the Middle East, then Israel is so small.
02:08Israel needs more space than this.
02:10And Gaza has already been broken.
02:12There is a dead end there.
02:13There will be a dead end there.
02:14So who would want to live there?
02:16So these people should also make arrangements to get out of here.
02:18In some other parts of the world, they will be given good buildings.
02:21They will live there.
02:22This is a very big development.
02:24The whole world is responsible for this.
02:25We will talk about all this in today's program.
02:27Let's start quickly with our two friends.
02:30The Prime Minister of Pakistan is on Justice.
02:34Barrister Aqeel Malik is with us.
02:35Our friend, Mr. Faisal Chaudhary, is with us.
02:39I am very grateful to both of them.
02:41Mr. Faisal, I don't know if it has passed or not,
02:43but Mushahid Hussain Syed said in our program that
02:46we should be grateful to God that a person like Donald Trump
02:49has become the President of the United States.
02:51And the work he has done with Israel,
02:53the end of the war,
02:54according to his words,
02:55only a man like Trump could have done this.
02:57He gave a stick to Netanyahu.
02:59I don't know what he did.
03:01I don't know what he did.
03:02He has pressurized.
03:03I am rephrasing, Alfa.
03:05So he did this.
03:06Now all this has happened.
03:07The world's most powerful man,
03:10for whatever reason,
03:11is the man of this mindset that
03:13we don't want to start, we want to end.
03:15Is this a good news for world peace?
03:17It's a very good news.
03:18That's why I support Trump.
03:20As soon as the war ended,
03:21he said that today he has become President,
03:22the day after tomorrow there will be a ceasefire.
03:24He gave a stick.
03:25If a scoundrel like Netanyahu could do it,
03:28only Trump could have done it.
03:29He said, look, make a man out of a scoundrel.
03:31And he gave a stick.
03:33So you will see that
03:34this is a very positive thing for world peace.
03:36These are very positive things.
03:37These are revolutionary things, sir.
03:39Listening to these things from the President of America,
03:41it's music to my ears.
03:43I am asking you about the PTI stance.
03:46Do you also think that
03:47these words are worthy of condemnation?
03:48And from Mr. Khan's Twitter account,
03:51in terms of the PTI stance,
03:52will there be condemnation in the words of Trump for this action?
03:55Will there be condemnation?
03:58Look, the PTI stance,
03:59obviously the official stance,
04:00will give certain information.
04:02I can express my personal opinion with you.
04:05I think that
04:06this statement about Gaza
04:08is not acceptable.
04:11And we,
04:12Qaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah's
04:14decision to stand with Palestine
04:17on a human rights violation,
04:19we are standing with him.
04:20And the PTI has a stated position
04:22that we do not accept the existence of Israel.
04:25We stood with Palestine
04:28and we will continue to do so.
04:30I think that
04:31the way the issue of tariffs has been backfired,
04:34perhaps this will also be backfired.
04:36And I think that
04:37the role of the government
04:40at this time
04:42is absolutely justified.
04:44Are you sure that
04:45whenever Mr. Khan meets,
04:46when the next interaction happens,
04:47tomorrow morning or the day after,
04:48whenever it happens,
04:49he will also give instructions
04:50to tweet from my account
04:51to condemn this action of Trump.
04:53Should this happen in your opinion?
04:55President Trump
04:56said something like this in his time as well.
04:59He took a very clear position on this.
05:02Mr. Imran Khan
05:03stands on his position with absolute clarity.
05:06And he never comes in anyone's awe.
05:08Contrary to that,
05:09the reaction of the current government
05:12is very disturbing.
05:14And the foreign office
05:16is more interested in the finance ministry.
05:18And because of this,
05:19our foreign relations
05:20have been badly affected.
05:22And we have become isolated in the world at this time.
05:25And we do not have
05:26a suitable proposal.
05:29So, are you sure
05:30that his Twitter account will tweet
05:32and it should come in your opinion?
05:34Now, Mr. Aqeel,
05:35tell us
05:36that this proposal
05:37worries you a little
05:38which happened last night
05:39at 10.30 pm.
05:40Mr. Fawad Chaudhary
05:41used to often say
05:42that the flaw of PTI so far
05:44is that it has not gone
05:45with all the opposition parties.
05:47The first scene was
05:48when Maulana Fandu Rehman Sahib,
05:50Khakan Sahib, Nawaz Sahib,
05:51Achak Zahi Sahib
05:52and, of course, PTI
05:53demanded new elections.
05:55They have demanded so far.
05:57But are you afraid
05:58that this matter
05:59may come forward
06:00in a combined way
06:01in a way
06:02that it does not come on the street?
06:03Or is the smile on your face
06:04telling me
06:05that you think
06:06that it is fine,
06:07there are talks,
06:08let's do it.
06:09Let's do four more press conferences.
06:10What difference does it make?
06:12Look, Mr. Wasim,
06:13the thing is
06:14that there are two sides to this.
06:15And this matter
06:16is not that easy.
06:17It is not easy.
06:18Because in the province
06:19where PTI rules,
06:20in KP province,
06:21it is quite obvious
06:22that Maulana Sahib
06:23has a lot of reservations.
06:24He has already said
06:25that the form 47
06:26is the government.
06:27First of all,
06:28this is a very unnatural alliance.
06:29With us,
06:30their wavelength
06:31used to match.
06:32The page used to match.
06:33The line and length
06:34were also correct
06:35in all matters.
06:36The cause was the same.
06:37Here, the cause
06:38is not the same.
06:39Here,
06:40Maulana Sahib
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29:52bringing great stability to that part of the Middle East owning that piece of land developing
29:57and creating thousands of jobs.
29:59I spoke to other leaders of Countries in the Middle East and they love the idea.
30:03They would really bring stability
30:05Now, this is surprising. I will ask the commentator who is with us,
30:09what he thinks. He is saying that he spoke to other people in the Middle East
30:12and they loved the idea from other countries in the Middle East.
30:15However, all the countries, whether they are from the Middle East or from any other country in the world,
30:19everyone has negated, opposed and condemned this idea.
30:22They also said, Donald Trump said that the role of Saudi Arabia will be very important in this regard.
30:26Saudi Arabia gave a very harsh reaction, and gave a quick reaction,
30:29and gave two quick reactions that this statement of Donald Trump is not right.
30:32But you heard what Donald Trump said.
30:34Look ahead, he says that Gaza is no longer worth living in.
30:37All this has been happening there for years, and it will continue to happen.
30:40If people live in Gaza in the future, this will be all that has happened.
30:43Therefore, Palestinians should not live there.
30:45This is the impression he is giving, this is the meaning of what he is saying.
30:47What are the words? You see.
31:02Another location, I think it should be a location that's going to make people happy.
31:06You look over the decades, it's all death in Gaza.
31:11This has been happening for years, it's all death.
31:14If we can get a beautiful area to resettle people permanently in nice homes.
31:19How many people are you thinking about?
31:21All of them, I mean, we're talking about probably a million seven people,
31:25a million seven, maybe a million eight.
31:27But I think all of them, I think they'll be resettled in areas
31:30where they can live a beautiful life and not be worried about dying every day.
31:35When Donald Trump was saying this, everyone was surprised.
31:37When Donald Trump was saying this, apparently,
31:39Netanyahu was surprised and surprised.
31:41His happiness was not given, but he was also surprised.
31:43What is happening?
31:44The journalists were surprised and asked, how many people are you talking about?
31:46Obviously, this is not a matter of a neighborhood,
31:48that 10,000 people from here to there.
31:50So he said that all of them, probably all of them,
31:52move everyone from here to a nice beautiful place.
31:55Make good buildings for the people of Gaza.
31:57Because this is the demolition site of Gaza.
31:59This is not a place to live anymore.
32:01And apart from this, Israel, when we talk about Israel's
32:05favorite parts of Gaza, you know,
32:07even when the matter of Syria happened,
32:09Israel moved ahead and did a lot of things.
32:11They took control of their territory.
32:13So see how Donald Trump is pointing out in that regard
32:16that he also understands that Israel,
32:19all the areas that are on the ground right now,
32:21are not enough for Israel.
32:23See what he said.
32:24You mentioned in the past that you're concerned about Israel
32:26being too small geographically.
32:28Would you support annexation of parts of the West Bank by Israel?
32:31Well, I'm not going to talk about that.
32:33It certainly is a small...
32:36It's a small country in terms of land.
32:38See this pen, this wonderful pen?
32:41My desk is the Middle East.
32:43And this pen, the top of the pen, that's Israel.
32:46That's not good, right?
32:47You know, that's a pretty big difference.
32:50I use that as an analogy.
32:51It's pretty accurate, actually.
32:53It's a pretty small piece of land.
32:56And it's amazing that they've been able to do
32:58what they've been able to do.
32:59When you think about it,
33:00there's a lot of good, smart brain power.
33:03But it is a very small piece of land, no question about it.
33:07If this table is the Middle East,
33:09then the point of the pen in my hand next to this table is Israel.
33:14And it's not enough for Israel.
33:16So in one breath, or in one day,
33:18they say that this area should be empty of Palestinians.
33:21And then they say that the area of Israel is not enough.
33:24There's been a reaction from all over the world.
33:25There's been a reaction from Saudi Arabia, Iran, France, Britain, Germany, and Jordan.
33:29And look at what the Palestinian ambassador in the UN said about this.
33:54Our homeland is our homeland.
33:56If a part of it is destroyed, the Gaza Strip,
33:59the Palestinian people selected the choice to return to it.
34:03In two days, in a span of few hours,
34:06400,000 Palestinians walking returned to the northern part of the Gaza Strip.
34:12I think that we should be respecting the selections and the wishes of the Palestinian people.
34:20And the Palestinian people, at the end, will make the determination.
34:25Their determination, they want to clean the destruction in Gaza.
34:29They want to rebuild Gaza.
34:31They want to rebuild the schools, the hospitals, the roads, the infrastructures,
34:37and the buildings, and the homes,
34:40because this is where they belong, and they love to live there.
34:44And I think that...
34:46People say that those who are interested,
34:49those who want the Palestinians to go back to their original place,
34:53then that's fine.
34:54Israel will go back, because that's the original place of Palestine.
34:57There are very good buildings there.
34:59It's clean. It's livable.
35:01So, we'll go there.
35:02But the Palestinians will not leave this place.
35:05Within no time, 400,000 people will return there.
35:08They will rebuild that place, and they want to live there.
35:10And if someone is very interested in relocating them,
35:13then they should go back to their original place, that is, Israel.
35:16It's clean, and there is no demolition site there.
35:19There are very good buildings there.
35:21We will try to understand from Ms. Huma Baqai what has happened.
35:24Of course, you have an eye for international affairs.
35:26Madam, thank you very much for your time.
35:28Now, tell me, what do you think?
35:31Trump being Trump,
35:33did he just say it, and it happened?
35:36Or not?
35:37This is a policy, a plan in his mind,
35:39not to forget that during his first term in office,
35:42he also shifted the Darul Ukmah.
35:44So, this is a plan,
35:46which he wants to take towards action.
35:49Or did he just say it?
35:51Look, the statements he has made in the past few days,
35:56are a proof of the fact that he says a lot of things.
36:01For example, he talked about 25% tariffs in Mexico,
36:0725% tariffs in Canada,
36:10and then he took back both tariffs for a month.
36:17This particular statement is interesting,
36:19and there is a little depth in it because
36:22the Israeli Prime Minister is the first foreign delegate
36:26whom Trump has invited to his presidency.
36:30And the thing that should have been done for us,
36:34is that the others would have been Narendra Modi.
36:38And today is 5th February,
36:41and there is a lot of convergence in the way of conversation
36:45between Israel and India.
36:47But having said this,
36:49against this particular statement,
36:52in America,
36:54when I am talking to you right now,
36:57we are also talking about an impeachment.
37:01This is such a serious statement,
37:04that the president can be impeached for it.
37:08And people are also saying that if Biden had made such a statement,
37:12then maybe his mental health would have been affected.
37:16So why are the Republicans silent right now?
37:20Such irresponsible statements.
37:23There is one thing in this statement,
37:26that it is very difficult to bring him to the ground.
37:30Europe will not support him.
37:33Their larger interest in the Middle East is to revive the Ibrahim Accords.
37:38The speed with which Saudi Arabia has rejected it,
37:41and there has been a pushback,
37:43it will be self-defeating there as well.
37:46So I think,
37:48in fact I have a conviction,
37:50that this is a statement,
37:52and they will move back on it.
37:54A more dangerous statement,
37:56has come from Mr. Waseem Badani,
37:58regarding Iran.
38:00He has also warned Iran,
38:02that he will destroy NAFTA.
38:04So I think,
38:06the global politics,
38:08were saying that they will reduce the number of wars,
38:11but...
38:12I was wondering,
38:13what happened to all those things,
38:15that Trump says that he has nothing to do with the world,
38:18end the wars,
38:19I will not become a party,
38:22Mr. Mushahid has said,
38:24thank God,
38:25a man like Trump has come,
38:27he has pushed Netanyahu,
38:28to end the war,
38:29otherwise,
38:30no one else could have ended the war,
38:32like Netanyahu.
38:33What happened to all those things?
38:35You are absolutely right, Mr. Waseem Badani.
38:38All the efforts,
38:40were made by Biden,
38:42but the ceasefire,
38:44so to say,
38:45and the return of 4-4.5 lakh Palestinians,
38:50was done during Trump's time.
38:53So he is playing to both lobbies.
38:56He is playing to the Zionist lobby,
38:59and he is doing some things on the ground,
39:02which are more likely,
39:05to happen in the future.
39:08If you could tell me about the response of Saudi Arabia,
39:11it was a quick response,
39:12and it was a two-touch response.
39:13Although,
39:14they said on the phone,
39:15that they will invest 600 billion dollars,
39:17do you feel happy about this?
39:19They could have waited,
39:21for the world to react,
39:22or they could have given a lighter response.
39:24Why didn't they?
39:25I think,
39:26if they had waited on this particular occasion,
39:29then there would have been a lot of resentment from the region.
39:32And till now,
39:33there has been a lot of talk about Saudi Arabia,
39:36that they are waiting and watching.
39:38So,
39:39my personal opinion is that,
39:41Saudi Arabia's immediate statement,
39:43is a good thing.
39:45Because,
39:46in some way,
39:47it is a pushback.
39:48And,
39:49the last thing is,
39:50this is the American strategy.
39:53The American strategy is,
39:55that first,
39:56they spread destruction,
39:57and then,
39:58in the areas,
39:59where destruction is spread,
40:00they throw money,
40:01and then,
40:02they revise it.
40:03They dropped the biggest bomb in Afghanistan,
40:06and then,
40:07they dropped the food.
40:08So,
40:09this is a part of the American strategy.
40:12But,
40:13I think,
40:14in Europe,
40:15too,
40:16there is a lot of concern.
40:17But,
40:18you are sure that,
40:19it won't be easy to implement it,
40:20but,
40:21it is near to impossible.
40:22Impossible.
40:23Impossible.
40:24Thank you so much.
40:25Thank you very much,
40:26Huma Baqai.
40:27But,
40:28it is impossible to implement it.
40:29We will conclude after the break.
40:34Before leaving,
40:35this is the latest statement of Donald Trump,
40:37the latest smile of Netanyahu,
40:39and,
40:40the recent tears of Ghaza's citizens.
40:43Again,
40:44we remind everyone that,
40:45it is high time,
40:46that,
40:47we keep aside our small,
40:48superficial,
40:49ideological,
40:50differences,
40:51and,
40:52think as a nation,
40:53a nation.
40:54Because,
40:55when the enemy does something,
40:57then,
40:58there is no discrimination.
40:59We should not be discriminated.
41:00If life is healthy,
41:01then,
41:02God willing,
41:03we will meet tomorrow.
41:04Allah Hafiz.