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-Irfan Malik (IT Expert)
Is PTI failing to give government a tough time? - Maria Memon's Report
"Negotiation Kamiyab Na Hoye Tu Civil Na Farmani Ki Tarf Jaynge", Sahibzada Hamid Raza
"Imran Khan Jail Mein Is Liye Hen Kyun Kay...", Sahibzada Hamid Raza
Is PMLN govt's only solution to every problem shutting down internet?
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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, I am Maria Meemer, Architect of Troyes, Civil Nafarmani or Muzaqarat.
00:16In the next few days, we will talk about the current situation,
00:20we will talk about the first semester of the program,
00:22and what is the comprehensive plan of Civil Nafarmani,
00:24we will also discuss the way of justice.
00:27After that, the internet is losing 1 million dollars every hour.
00:32These are Pasha's own estimates.
00:34As of now, we do not see any concrete solution to the internet crisis,
00:39because the government is in complete denial.
00:41We will talk about this in the second part of the program.
00:43In the end, Arshad Sharif's case has been decided to end,
00:47but it has been presented in front of a mirror bench.
00:49We will talk about this in the last part of the program.
00:51But let's start first.
00:52Tehrik-e-Insan has put forward its two demands to the government,
00:56and has said that they should be fulfilled,
00:58otherwise Civil Nafarmani will be done.
01:00Ibrahim Khan was talking about a card,
01:02that card is the card of Civil Nafarmani,
01:05and it was announced by Aleema Khan herself.
01:08Earlier it was said that whatever Khan says,
01:11may not reach out in that way,
01:13but what the sisters say is reliable,
01:16so her sisters themselves talked about it.
01:19Listen, what are the demands for Civil Nafarmani,
01:22and what are the consequences if they are not accepted?
01:26Tehrik-e-Insan has put forward two demands.
01:28They have said that one demand is that
01:30a JIT should be set up under the Supreme Court,
01:34JIT should investigate on 9th May and 26th November.
01:39Apart from that, we do not trust anyone.
01:42The second demand is that on 9th May and 26th November,
01:46all political prisoners should be released.
01:51If these two demands are not met,
01:53then we will go towards civil disobedience.
01:59Is this the last decision,
02:01or is there still a chance to postpone this date?
02:05Sher Afzal Marwad says that an indication has been given,
02:07the decision has not been made yet,
02:09but they are seeing that until the decision is not made,
02:12these decisions will not be made.
02:14Listen to what Marwad is saying.
02:16The indication of Civil Nafarmani has been given,
02:18but the party has not decided yet.
02:20But one thing is clear,
02:22it is not possible for the party leaders to be released without civil disobedience.
02:27The government does not seem to be in a panic mode after this announcement.
02:33They say that this will fail,
02:35that it will not be possible to close the JITs.
02:38And they have already tried to do justice in 2014,
02:41but people did not respond to it.
02:45Please take a look at the government's satisfaction.
02:48Try to stop the JITs.
02:54It will not happen.
02:55If they do not do civil disobedience,
02:58it will fail.
03:00It will fail badly.
03:04When he is talking about failure,
03:06then perhaps there is a similar announcement of Civil Nafarmani in 2014.
03:11We saw that Mr. Khan announced Civil Nafarmani after giving two days.
03:17But after that we saw that Civil Nafarmani did not happen.
03:21He told people not to pay the bill,
03:23not to become a part of the system,
03:25and to resist in this way,
03:27whatever the government has written.
03:30Do not pay the electricity bill,
03:31do not pay the gas bill.
03:32The bill was burned by Mr. Khan himself,
03:34but it was not successful.
03:35So will there be a different Hikmat-e-Amli now?
03:38Or this time the Justice Movement will not be the same as before?
03:45This is also a question.
03:46But Mr. Faisal Chaudhary, who is Mr. Khan's lawyer,
03:50says that the political committee has been formed,
03:52but there is no seriousness.
03:54The more the matter goes ahead,
03:55the more the matter goes behind.
03:58A committee has been formed under the leadership of Mr. Omar Ayyub,
04:01which will negotiate and for some jokes,
04:04there are five members of the committee.
04:06But unfortunately,
04:07the more we want to advance democratic practice,
04:10the more we throw democratic practice behind.
04:13What does the government say now?
04:15The government says that even if we have to negotiate,
04:17we will not do it on the conditions.
04:18Negotiation does not mean that
04:20we keep conditions on our gunpoint,
04:23and if they are not there,
04:24then such an extreme step should be announced.
04:27So they say that we will not negotiate with threats.
04:31Sometimes negotiations or political dialogue
04:35have happened in such a way
04:36that you have formed a committee
04:38and you have also decided
04:40that this committee will talk about these two issues.
04:43Both the issues are not negotiable.
04:47Mr. Imran Khan will continue to demand,
04:49we will listen from here and remove it from here.
04:51We do not have time, we will listen to the demands.
04:53First of all, make a political attitude.
04:54With a political attitude,
04:56Imran Khan should leave this attitude
04:58to the entire community.
05:00This is a rebellion.
05:01Announce that such a rebellion will not be done in the future.
05:05We do the rest everywhere and will do it.
05:08Before the program,
05:10Mr. Hamid Reza is with us.
05:12He is the chairman of the Sunni Tahrir Council.
05:14He is with us live right now.
05:16Thank you very much, Mr. Hamid Reza, for joining us.
05:19Let's start with the announcement of civil disobedience.
05:23Was this matter discussed in the core committee with full consultation?
05:27Did you know about this matter?
05:31That such an announcement could be made?
05:33This is an absolute announcement.
05:35A lot of people know about Mr. Khan's tweet.
05:41Thank you very much.
05:43It was not discussed in detail.
05:48There were some parliamentarians,
05:55some family members,
05:57some party members,
05:58who met Mr. Khan.
06:00Civil disobedience was brought to our attention.
06:07Mr. Khan has already formed a discussion committee.
06:10What will be the situation in the future?
06:12You are a very close ally.
06:15Did you know about this before the announcement?
06:19Or did you realize after seeing the tweet that Mr. Khan has announced it?
06:24We knew about it through the tweet.
06:29Mr. Khan's communication is conveyed to the political committee.
06:34It is obvious that it is informed before any tweet or press release.
06:40We knew about it before the tweet or media release.
06:44Did you know about its impact?
06:49Or will it develop as we go?
06:52Is the party ready for civil disobedience?
06:58Yes, we are ready.
07:00Mr. Khan has given some points.
07:04The political committee has its own recommendations.
07:07The rest of the people have their own recommendations.
07:09We are working on it.
07:11When we bring it, we will bring it comprehensively.
07:13How effective will it be?
07:15Mr. Tariq-e-Insaab has already made this attempt in 2014.
07:18At that time, there were no positive results.
07:20Do you think that the results of civil disobedience will be different from 2014?
07:30I think that if the situation reaches there and the negotiations do not succeed,
07:36then it will be more effective this time.
07:38It has two or three ground realities.
07:40We are in politics.
07:41The job of a politician is to analyze things.
07:44After that, you have to develop your opinion on it.
07:47The situation on the ground in 2014 was totally different.
07:51Today, it is totally different.
07:53Secondly, you know that from the last two and a half years,
07:56from the time of Operation Regime Change to today,
07:59the acceptance of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaab and Imran Khan
08:02among overseas Pakistanis is unmatchable.
08:07Obviously, it will have an impact.
08:10But all of a sudden, all the steps will not be taken together.
08:15There will be different phases.
08:18My opinion is that yes, it will be really successful this time.
08:22So, it will be incremental.
08:24This means that no remittances will be sent from abroad.
08:27Is this the starting point?
08:31Yes, there are some different segments in it.
08:34After that, we will move forward.
08:37One point of view is that if this is not done,
08:40then money will not come from the legal channels of Pakistan.
08:43This is bad for the Pakistani economy.
08:45Whatever the economy is, whoever comes to power,
08:48he has to take care of the economy.
08:50For example, if you also come to power as a result of this movement,
08:54then this is not suitable for the national treasure.
08:58So, how do you engage this point of view?
09:02The national treasure is important when the nation is alive,
09:06when the rights of the nation are available,
09:08when democracy is present in the country.
09:10Whatever is being done at the moment.
09:12You tell me, the way civilian rights have been suspended,
09:17the way the current government is crossing all limits of cruelty and corruption,
09:22the way the sanctity of four walls is being violated,
09:26the way our democratic rights have been deprived of,
09:30if you think that there will be an economic boost in Pakistan,
09:35then it will not come to an end.
09:37If we don't get a single installment in front of you,
09:40then we reach the default stage.
09:42If the IMF does not release a single installment of $3 billion,
09:45then we reach the stage of forgiveness.
09:47So, just imagine how bad it can be from here as well.
09:52So, there is nothing.
09:54The government does not need to worry much.
09:57They have to take the money from the IMF or from the Pakistanis.
10:00They have to spend it on their own.
10:03Pakistan has never been a priority of the current government.
10:06Neither has the people of Pakistan ever been a priority.
10:09So, what you are saying about the IMF is absolutely correct.
10:11Because the IMF also has to ensure that the money comes from the banking channels.
10:15Because whatever conditions they have,
10:17they want that this is also an important factor in bringing about economic recovery.
10:21That all the money comes from the banking channels,
10:24in a transparent way.
10:25When you announce this,
10:27don't you think that the IMF program will be affected to some extent?
10:31Because when you wrote a letter earlier,
10:33there was a reaction to that as well.
10:35So, have you thought this through?
10:36This is what I want to ask.
10:41Let me tell you one thing.
10:47We have a policy enemy.
10:51Or we want to harm the people of Pakistan.
10:55There is no such thing.
10:58The current government has to decide
11:01whether to give us the democratic rights that Pakistan gives us or not.
11:07You can't do this.
11:09You can't take away the rights of my family.
11:14You can't cut off my financial resources.
11:17You can't put my family members in jail.
11:20You can't deprive me of the democratic rights to protest.
11:24Even if I want to be peaceful, I can't be allowed to be peaceful.
11:28And then you say that if you want to accept this dictation,
11:31then I won't do it.
11:32You can do whatever you want.
11:34The government can do whatever it wants.
11:36So, the demands that you have put forward,
11:40one of them is to investigate the incidents of 9th May and 26th May.
11:44You have been saying this for a long time.
11:46The government has not yet given you a clear answer.
11:50The second demand is to release these prisoners.
11:53This is your protest in Islamabad,
11:56in which people died and bullets were fired.
12:00Even before that, you had demands regarding 9th May.
12:03The government still did not agree.
12:05So, why do you think that the government will accept these conditions before 14th December?
12:11Let me tell you one thing.
12:14Whenever a person is considered a criminal,
12:18or if you assume that he is not a criminal, but a criminal,
12:22then if he has committed a crime,
12:25then he never demands an inquiry.
12:28We are not saying in an inquiry that a committee should be formed
12:32on PTA's agents or PTA's employees.
12:35When we talk about the Judicial Commission,
12:37only reputable judges will sit in it.
12:39We ourselves are demanding to find out who did 9th May,
12:42how did it happen, and who was responsible for it.
12:45Number one.
12:46Number two, the incident of 26th May,
12:48is also in front of you.
12:50Now, if the government of Pakistan…
12:52Look, if there is political destabilization,
12:55then its impact is not only on Pakistan's internal,
12:58internal political affairs.
13:00Its impact is on your economy,
13:02its impact is on your foreign policy,
13:05its impact is on your foreign relations.
13:08How is it possible that you suspend all political rights in Pakistan
13:12and say that I will make Pakistan…
13:15In the global world,
13:17if you open the door of the Prime Minister's car of a country
13:21that is coming, then your country will also develop.
13:24Or if you lift a stone in the hand of a suited booted tie-by-pants
13:28and stand in front of someone,
13:30then your country will not progress.
13:32The ingredients for the development of a country,
13:35the most important ingredient in it,
13:37is political stability in the country.
13:39So, we want to bring political stability.
13:42Our government says that we are criminals.
13:45We say that if you make a judicial commission,
13:48if we are criminals, then we will take the punishment.
13:51But your conditions, Mr. Zardar,
13:53this is my question.
13:54I know your point, what you are saying,
13:56that there should be investigations.
13:58I am also in favor of this.
14:00There should be investigations to find out what happened.
14:03The government is still not accepting your conditions.
14:06In today's date, when you have made a political committee,
14:09from here to 14th…
14:11Exactly.
14:12So, my question is, are these non-starter conditions?
14:15Because the government will not agree.
14:17Then what will a political committee do?
14:20Because the government will not agree.
14:22It will not agree.
14:23Look, our job is to represent ourselves in the right way everywhere.
14:28We were being accused for the past two and a half months
14:31that we do not want to negotiate.
14:33Now, for negotiation, if we…
14:35First, they beat us up that Imran Khan wants his freedom.
14:39And the two-point agenda that Imran Khan gave,
14:41that does not include his freedom.
14:43So, first, here they had to face subkis.
14:45These are both practical things.
14:47A massacre happened on 24th, 25th, 6th.
14:50We are demanding a judicial inquiry for that.
14:52On 9th of May, we are demanding a judicial inquiry for that.
14:55The government does not want to do it.
14:57We will not back down from our struggle.
15:00We will face more difficulties.
15:02That's fine. No issues.
15:04These things are never seen in politics,
15:06that how compatible the conditions are, how opposing they are.
15:09When you do politics on the basis of theories,
15:12you have to face a lot of things.
15:14Look, Imran Khan has been in jail for a year and a half, two years.
15:18Why is he in jail?
15:19Because he did not give NRO to the government.
15:21He did not accept their words.
15:23His platelets did not decrease.
15:25They have kept Imran Khan in a death cell.
15:28When these things are seen,
15:30the purpose is that we are motivated with our cause.
15:33We will stand there.
15:34If I ask you a precise question,
15:36what do you think?
15:38Will there be no negotiations?
15:40Will the political committee not be able to find a solution?
15:42And you will have to resort to civil disobedience as a last resort.
15:46Are these conditions going on till 14th December?
15:51No, it's too early to call.
15:53Look, I am a very positive person.
15:55When you take a step or move towards something positive,
15:59you never start talking negatively.
16:02You want to give a chance to that positivity.
16:04You should.
16:05I understand this.
16:07I have hope from Allah's house.
16:09I hope that the people on the other side will understand this.
16:15If there is a positive opportunity,
16:17if we have made a political committee for negotiations,
16:20if we give it a chance, things can get better.
16:22As of now, I am in no position to pass any negative comment.
16:25I don't want to prove my positivity through any comment.
16:32Fair enough.
16:33Earlier, it was a clear position that your party,
16:36I am talking about Tehreek-e-Insaf,
16:38because you are very close to it,
16:40wants to talk only to the Muqtadara.
16:42It wants to talk to the establishment.
16:44Should we consider this as a shift in position?
16:46You can be a political entity.
16:48On the other hand, you can be a political nominee.
16:51You can talk to PMLN, People's Party.
16:53You are ready to talk to them.
16:55Is this a fair assessment?
16:59Earlier, we used to say that those who have the power,
17:03should negotiate with them.
17:05During this time, the government,
17:07for the past four, five, six months,
17:09has been creating a ruckus.
17:11We have power.
17:13Everything is happening as per our will.
17:15There were riots on TV.
17:17There were statements being made.
17:19Everyone was proving themselves to be Aristotle.
17:23Everyone was proving themselves to be Sultan.
17:25Let's go. We are ready to give them the chance.
17:27Now, they have to show their authority.
17:29They have to prove their authority.
17:31Yes, they do have the authority.
17:33Earlier, the government used to say
17:35that it cannot form a Judicial Commission.
17:37Then, our narrative won.
17:39We used to say that this government has no capacity.
17:41The power is somewhere else.
17:43The narrative of the government also won.
17:45Earlier, you used to say that we are talking to politicians.
17:47Now, you are saying that we are forming a political committee.
17:49We are talking to the government.
17:51You have also brought that in the middle.
17:53So, the narrative of the government has also won.
17:55Let me tell you one thing.
17:57Out of the five candidates,
17:59four of them did not meet Mr. Khan.
18:01Mr. Asad Kaisar could not come
18:03because he did not have bail.
18:05After that, Mr. Umar Ayub was arrested.
18:07The day the committee was formed,
18:09two to three hours after that,
18:11Mr. Umar Ayub came back yesterday.
18:13It was my case.
18:15So, Mr. Khan has given the direction
18:17to Mr. Umar Ayub.
18:19Now, Mr. Umar Ayub has to brief us.
18:21I am moving back towards Islamabad.
18:23We are hoping that
18:25if there is coordination
18:27by tomorrow night,
18:29we will sit down
18:31and settle all these things.
18:33Then, any one of us will be able
18:35to pass a comment
18:37on Mr. Khan's exact directions
18:39and what Mr. Umar Ayub has received.
18:41And how and on which grounds
18:43Mr. Khan has to give a speech.
18:45So, I guess we should wait till tomorrow.
18:47Okay.
18:49You must have seen the political activities
18:51in Maulana Fazl Rehman's house.
18:53Mr. Rana Sanaullah,
18:55Mr. Bilawal Bhutto,
18:57and the Prime Minister of the government
18:59call him.
19:01We have not seen any engagement
19:03at least on the mainstream
19:05in these days.
19:07Maulana is upset with the government.
19:09This is not a good opportunity
19:11to involve the government
19:13in these matters.
19:17God willing,
19:19we will get involved soon.
19:21The issue is that
19:23when the 26th amendment was passed,
19:25the government had committed
19:27to Maulana Fazl Rehman
19:29regarding Madaras Reforms.
19:31We had told Maulana
19:33that he will deceive us.
19:35How many times
19:37will he deceive us?
19:39He has proved with his act
19:41that he has deceived
19:43JUIF and Maulana Fazl Rehman.
19:45Now, they are going there
19:47to make a plea.
19:49I think the deadline of 8th
19:51has been given.
19:53If not, they are also coming
19:55to Islamabad.
19:57Your goals are very aligned.
19:59You are upset.
20:01Maulana is upset.
20:03He talks about coming to Islamabad.
20:05You talk about civil disobedience.
20:07He has not come there.
20:09Hopefully, in a day or two.
20:11The situation developed
20:13after the 24th
20:15is still stuck.
20:17There are various FIRs.
20:19There is a rest bail.
20:21There are Omni bails.
20:23There are trials.
20:25God willing,
20:27you will see everything
20:29in the next 24-48 hours.
20:31Faisal Wawda is also talking.
20:33We are getting to know
20:35Do you think
20:37Mr. Shahbaz
20:39and the same page
20:41are fighting?
20:43Do you think
20:45they are weak?
20:47Do you think
20:49Shahbaz Sharif, Bilawal
20:51and the same page
20:53are intact?
20:55What can I say
20:57about Faisal Wawda?
20:59You consider him
21:01a messenger.
21:03You consider him
21:05a messenger.
21:07I think
21:09the qualities
21:11and services
21:13that have been given
21:15by the Prime Minister
21:17in terms of obedience
21:19cannot be reached
21:21by any politician in Pakistan.
21:23They will set a new example
21:25of obedience.
21:27I don't think
21:29Faisal Wawda
21:31wants to
21:33introduce himself
21:35in the media.
21:39I wanted to talk
21:41about his message.
21:43People's Party
21:45is saying that
21:47if PTI talks to us,
21:49we can see
21:51if there is a future
21:53collaboration.
21:55If we have to talk,
21:57Mr. Imran Khan has the mandate.
21:59We will do it.
22:01We don't need Mr. Wawda.
22:03Thank you very much.
22:05Mr. Hamid Raza was with us.
22:07Regarding
22:09disobedience,
22:11it will be incrementally.
22:13There will be phases.
22:15It will be effective in 2014.
22:17What is the mandate
22:19of the political
22:21committees?
22:23Who will they contact?
22:25Who will talk?
22:27What is their
22:29old model?
22:31Will they talk
22:33to the establishment?
22:35Will they talk to the politicians?
22:37There are many questions.
22:39We will see in the coming days.
22:41Pakistan is a
22:43young country.
22:45They don't understand
22:47the concept of
22:49thriving without
22:51the internet.
22:53The government doesn't understand
22:55the loss of the internet.
22:57Stay with us.
23:01Welcome back.
23:03Many people in our country
23:05depend on the internet
23:07to send messages.
23:09There is a group
23:11whose business,
23:13existence, job
23:15is dependent on the internet.
23:17What is it?
23:19How is it affecting?
23:21Let's see.
23:23In this country,
23:25patients pay a price.
23:27How do they face problems?
23:29Due to the rapid
23:31decline of the internet service,
23:33patients from remote areas
23:35complain of
23:37late reports.
23:39Patients are
23:41facing problems.
23:43Foodpanda and other
23:45daily providers
23:47who deliver parcels
23:49and other things
23:51are affected.
23:53There is a story in Independent Urdu.
23:55A 25-year-old foodpanda rider
23:57is a day laborer.
23:59He used to earn
24:01Rs. 2000 daily.
24:03Due to the rapid decline of the internet,
24:05he earns Rs. 500 to Rs. 800 daily.
24:07He spends Rs. 400 on petrol.
24:09He can't earn anything.
24:13Online sellers
24:15like women,
24:17food businesses,
24:19are affected.
24:21People's business
24:23is directly related to
24:25social media apps.
24:27It is related to the distribution of the internet.
24:29There are 25 lakh freelancers
24:31in this country
24:33whose employment is affected.
24:35The Internet Service Provider Association
24:37has stated that due to the
24:39rapid decline of the internet,
24:4125 lakh freelancers
24:43can be unemployed.
24:45Freelancers say that
24:47there is a loss of the government
24:49because of the
24:51credibility of Pakistan.
24:53If we want to expand
24:55our IT industry,
24:57if we have bad reviews
24:59due to the unavailability of the internet,
25:01the business will not come to Pakistan.
25:03It will go to Bangladesh, Sri Lanka
25:05or other regions
25:07where there is cheaper labor
25:09and better internet.
25:11There is a loss of $1 million.
25:13These are the figures of PASHA.
25:15The Pakistan Software House Association
25:17says that
25:19the loss of $1 million
25:21due to the internet
25:23is due to the
25:25rapid decline of the internet
25:27and the destruction of
25:29the IT export.
25:31Foreign customers
25:33are losing confidence in the
25:35IT sector of Pakistan.
25:37It is difficult for foreign customers
25:39to come back to Pakistan
25:41once they come to other countries.
25:43According to PASHA,
25:45the loss of $2.2 million
25:47due to the internet
25:49is due to the
25:513G and 4G services
25:53which cost the country
25:551.3 billion rupees per day.
25:57Many Pakistani companies
25:59have shifted their offices
26:01to other countries
26:03due to the internet.
26:0555% of Pakistan's IT export
26:07is for Europe,
26:09while the rest of the customers
26:11use the same IT security system
26:13which is used in America
26:15and other European countries.
26:17PASHA has demanded
26:19that the government should
26:21refrain from following
26:23the map of countries
26:25like North Korea.
26:27The internet is slowing down
26:29but at least we should
26:31take some responsibility
26:33and there should be
26:35some clarity and transparency.
26:37When there is a debate
26:39on the internet,
26:41on 5th and 6th of December,
26:43under the leadership of
26:45Senator Palwasha Khan,
26:47the IT and Telecom Committee
26:49of the Senate
26:51held a meeting
26:53in which the government
26:55gave their answers
26:57on the internet.
26:59In the meeting,
27:01the chairman of the committee
27:03raised the question
27:05that the IT ministries
27:07have to control the speed of
27:09the internet.
27:11We are trying to reduce
27:13the impact of the internet
27:15on the IT industry.
27:17The chairman of the committee
27:19said that there is no policy
27:21to reduce the speed of the internet.
27:23If there is a policy,
27:25we should ask the government
27:27but we have not slowed
27:29the speed of the internet
27:31because of the internet VPN.
27:33During the meeting,
27:35the chairman of the committee
27:37raised the issue of fake news
27:39but he could not give
27:41a clear answer.
27:43Senator Kamran Murtaza
27:45raised the question
27:47that is national security
27:49only a matter of Pakistan
27:51and not of India.
27:53During the meeting,
27:55the IT, PTA and the Ministry
27:57of Internal Affairs
27:59kept putting the responsibility
28:01on each other.
28:03Shaza Fatima raised
28:05an interesting point
28:07in the committee.
28:09She said that she is
28:11talking to Starlink
28:13and trying to bring them
28:15to Pakistan.
28:17The situation is that
28:19there is an X ban in Pakistan
28:21and they are talking to Starlink.
28:23Elon Musk is the owner
28:25of Starlink.
28:27Shaza Fatima explains
28:29how to stop the X ban.
28:31Shaza Fatima explains
28:33how to stop the X ban.
28:35Shaza Fatima explains
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28:39Shaza Fatima explains
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28:43Shaza Fatima explains
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28:47Shaza Fatima explains
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28:51Shaza Fatima explains
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28:55Shaza Fatima explains
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