耳の穴かっぽじって聞け！2025年2月4日 【芸能界の底】テレビ初告白！ジョイマンが“営業No.1”に至るまでの道のりとは？井口の嘆き「営業ではアンパンマンに絶対勝てない」
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00:00This week's theme is this.
00:02The true nature of the best salesman.
00:04The true nature of the best salesman.
00:07Who will reveal their true nature this time?
00:10Here we go.
00:12Here we go.
00:13Isn't that just one person?
00:15Iguchi, Hiroyuki.
00:17Maybe it's going to hell.
00:20Kubota, Kazunobu.
00:22The place where I was born, Dobu.
00:24Yay!
00:26The place where I was born, Dobu.
00:28Yay!
00:29I'm going to stop you.
00:31You're so mean.
00:33You're dissing me with your rap.
00:35That's not a dissing rap.
00:39Joy, a rapper with no power.
00:41That wasn't a rap with no power.
00:44In 2008, he appeared on a lot of TV shows with his rap.
00:48He had a big break.
00:50What's wrong with him?
00:52However, his TV career started to decline the following year.
00:56He was called a one-man show.
00:59Even though I didn't have a lot of power,
01:01I thought to myself,
01:03I've become so interesting.
01:05When I really didn't have a lot of power,
01:07I got about 30,000 to 40,000 views.
01:09What was the most difficult job for you?
01:17I think it was the zero-person event at the fan meeting.
01:20That was the most difficult job for me.
01:24I was so confused.
01:26I panicked at that time.
01:29I couldn't take it anymore.
01:31I couldn't take it anymore.
01:33I thought I had to show it to someone.
01:36I thought I couldn't sleep tonight.
01:39So I gave it to X.
01:41In that year,
01:43the zero-person event started to continue.
01:49I was told that I would perform in front of the fireworks show
01:53five hours before the show.
01:56In front of the stage,
01:58there was a paid seat.
02:00There was a blue sheet.
02:02It was about 50 meters square.
02:05It was a paid seat.
02:07Of course, I came right in front of the fireworks show.
02:09There was no one there.
02:11I went to the seat where no one was there.
02:15There was a picture of me doing a call-and-response.
02:19I called it A-Zero.
02:21A-Zero.
02:24Katsuro found a way out of that hell.
02:28Sales.
02:30Now, he is the champion of Sales 1 Grand Prix for two years in a row.
02:36In 2008, I got 1.8 million yen.
02:40Last year, I got more than 1.8 million yen.
02:44Now, I am a CEO.
02:46You got a promotion.
02:48Sales.
02:50I have a lot of dreams in Sales.
02:54He got 1 point from the zero-person event.
02:56What happened to him before he became the Sales No.1?
03:00He wrote down his true feelings.
03:04That's amazing.
03:06When I wrote it down,
03:09I remembered how I felt at that time.
03:13There were times when I cried.
03:16I want people who are worried about their job to read it.
03:19I want people who are worried about their current situation to read it.
03:23I want people who are worried about their current situation to read it.
03:28This is the sales ranking of 2020.
03:31This is the ranking among Yoshimoto.
03:33You got 1st place in the 81st edition.
03:35That's amazing.
03:36You got a lot of votes.
03:37I was surprised.
03:39I thought I got a lot of votes.
03:41What did you do?
03:43I don't know if I can say this.
03:45I fought with the CEO of a company.
03:47I fought with the CEO of a company.
03:49That's fun.
03:51That's fun.
03:53I said the CEO of a company.
03:55I said the CEO of a company.
03:57I said the CEO of a company.
03:59I was excited.
04:01I remember when I was a child.
04:03I was a child and I was playing rock-paper-scissors.
04:05I was a child and I was playing rock-paper-scissors.
04:07That's an adult version.
04:10In the past, TV was the most gorgeous.
04:14I was on the stage.
04:16Sales were different.
04:18Now, TV is being evaluated and it has become a green car.
04:20That's amazing.
04:21I'm making more money than when I was on TV.
04:25This is the time.
04:27That's right.
04:29I think it's because there was an entertainer's soul.
04:33I think it's because there was an entertainer's soul.
04:35I think it's because there was an entertainer's soul.
04:39The sentence is the person.
04:41The sentence is the person.
04:45Joyman and sales.
04:47Joyman started as an entertainer in 2003 and sold in 2008.
04:51Joyman started as an entertainer in 2003 and sold in 2008.
04:53It's not sold out.
04:55The maximum monthly income at that time was 1.8 million yen.
04:57I think 1.8 million yen depends on the amount of people.
05:01But for us, 20s and 30s, it was a dream.
05:09And I thought this dream would last forever.
05:14I thought this dream would last forever.
05:18However, with the end of the short story boom,
05:20However, with the end of the short story boom,
05:22Joyman started to be called a one-shot company.
05:27As the number of media jobs like TV and the internet decreased,
05:32the last thing that remained was the job of a salesman,
05:35who did events all over the country,
05:37and told stories at New Year's parties and New Year's parties.
05:40At that time, the image of a salesman was that
05:43it was a job of an entertainer who had no TV job,
05:46and there was a sense of capitalism,
05:48so to be honest, I didn't think it was very positive.
05:51Unlike TV and theaters,
05:53there was a voice that said,
05:55I'm not saying I like comedy,
05:57but I'm not saying I like comedy,
05:59but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:01but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:03but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:05but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:07but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:09but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:11but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:13but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:15but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:17but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:19but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:21but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:23but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:25but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:27but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:29but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:31but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:33but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:35but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:37but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:39but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:41but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:43but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:45but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:47but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:49but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:51but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:53but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:55but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:57but I'm not saying I like comedy,
06:59but I'm not saying I like comedy,
07:01but I'm not saying I like comedy,
07:03but I'm not saying I like comedy,
07:05but I'm not saying I like comedy,
07:07but I'm not saying I like comedy,
07:09but I'm not saying I like comedy,
07:11but I'm not saying I like comedy,
07:13but I'm not saying I like comedy,
07:15but I'm not saying I like comedy,
07:17but I'm not saying I like comedy,
07:19but I'm not saying I like comedy,
07:21but I'm not saying I like comedy,
07:23but I'm not saying I like comedy,
07:25but I'm not saying I like comedy,
07:27but I'm not saying I like comedy,
07:29but I'm not saying I like comedy,
07:31but I'm not saying I like comedy,
07:33but I'm not saying I like comedy,
07:35but I'm not saying I like comedy,
07:37but I'm not saying I like comedy,
07:39but I'm not saying I like comedy,
07:41but I'm not saying I like comedy,
07:43but I'm not saying I like comedy,
07:45but I'm not saying I like comedy,
07:47but I'm not saying I like comedy,
07:49but I'm not saying I like comedy,
07:51but I'm not saying I like comedy.
08:15I'm not saying I like comedy,
08:17but I'm not saying I like comedy,
08:19but I'm not saying I like comedy.
08:45Rather than watching the reaction on TV,
08:48I'm really grateful as an entertainer
08:50that I have a job where I can hear
08:52the live voice of the audience right away.
08:56It's been 15 years since we started
08:58our business as a mainstay.
09:00There is no prefecture in Japan
09:02that I have never been to.
09:05On Sundays, the schedule is filled with business,
09:08and in 2023 and 2024,
09:10we will be able to become
09:12the number one business in Yoshimoto
09:14and Yoshimoto.
09:16Thanks to that, the Shinkansen
09:18will also become a green car,
09:20and last year, there was a month
09:22when it exceeded the highest month
09:24in 2008.
09:26The last job left for Joy-Man,
09:28which is business,
09:30is now the most important place
09:32for us.
09:34It is said that the entertainment world
09:36is an endless game of chairs,
09:38but we got tired on the way
09:40and just sat down on the floor.
09:42But by chance,
09:44I was able to meet a job
09:46called business.
09:48Thanks to business,
09:50things that I didn't even imagine
09:52at the time when I started
09:54being called a one-shot man
09:56became reality one after another,
09:58and I was able to think again
10:00that life is interesting.
10:02Thank you, Origoto,
10:04for the wonderful occupation
10:06where business and the negative
10:08parts of life are reversed
10:10.
10:12Oh, that's it, but
10:14why are you honest?
10:16Well, again,
10:18in this era,
10:20SNS is
10:22turning the times
10:24and it's getting crazy,
10:26but I thought
10:28there were people who were
10:30saved like this.
10:32That's right.
10:34No, I'm saying that
10:36without covering it up,
10:38I think it's because there was
10:40an entertainer's spirit
10:42to cover it up.
10:44If you don't put it on SNS,
10:46it's over without learning anything.
10:48If there is a god to throw away,
10:50it is not a god to pick up,
10:52but I thought it was good.
10:54As Kubota said at the beginning,
10:56the value of business has been
10:58reviewed, and this is also
11:00strange. Even though
11:02there are so many online and
11:04internet,
11:06the business where you can
11:08interact properly online is
11:10being re-strengthened.
11:12This is also an interesting place.
11:14I wonder if it's decreasing
11:16when it's Corona.
11:18That's right.
11:20I think it was the hardest
11:22at that time.
11:24But it's amazing so far.
11:26What Joyman is saying is
11:28that it's almost free,
11:30not paid business,
11:32and it's difficult here.
11:34I don't care if it's free or not.
11:36People who just smoke
11:38will be ignored.
11:40That's right.
11:42So if you see this and
11:44think Joyman is still doing his best,
11:46I want you to go to the live.
11:48That's right.
11:50This guy's true intention is
11:52that 0 people are watching for free,
11:54so there are no customers.
11:56If you laugh a little there,
11:58I want you to support
12:00what this guy is doing next.
12:02I want you to put it in your
12:04choice of entertainment.
12:06Who do you think is a strong
12:08influence?
12:10Mr. Kojima.
12:12Mr. Kojima is very popular
12:14with children.
12:16I think it's the worst
12:18from a child's point of view.
12:20I think everyone
12:22brought me well.
12:24I think it's the worst
12:26from a child's point of view.
12:28I think it's the worst
12:30from a child's point of view.
12:32There are people who hide the ears of their children.
12:34That's what I say.
12:36And if you have Anpanman show
12:38in front of and behind,
12:40children will go there
12:42and Anpanman will never win
12:44because they go there.
12:46And if there is Anpanman show
12:48on the same stage as
12:50children,
12:52there is also a child
12:54coming out
12:56and saying,
12:58When I was performing outside of the city,
13:01the audience was so excited that they couldn't take it.
13:06I can see that.
13:07There's that.
13:08It's so intense.
13:09There's that crazy dance and sound,
13:11and then you're lying.
13:13I couldn't take it.
13:16It's too bad.
13:16There's that.
13:18And then,
13:19there's a part where you say you're the champion,
13:22but the dance before that is too amazing.
13:25I wonder if people will watch it.
13:27And that M-1 sound.
13:30That's so cool.
13:31I hope they don't play that.
13:32They'll play that.
13:33I think people can watch M-1 in front of them for a moment.
13:38But when it starts,
13:40you hear the baby's voice and the child's voice.
13:42You think, oh, this was real.
13:45And then the tension goes down.
13:46And you look at me with a fox-like look.
13:48That's true.
13:53I expected to have 12 races,
13:55but no one came.
13:56All the people there were in their 60s and 70s.
14:00I missed all the races,
14:01and I expected to have 12 races.
14:02I was just being told.
14:04I expected it.
14:05And I was like,
14:06don't put a pipe in here.
14:07There's no way I'd put it in.
14:08I'm not interested.
14:09I don't care about the old people around me.
14:10I only know that I've been missing races.
14:12Some people won the races I drew.
14:14And then there were about 12 races.
14:15It was so noisy.
14:17I was looking out the window and walking.
14:20I thought they were mad.
14:22I thought it was really over.
14:23They weren't there.
14:24The manager wasn't there.
14:26They wouldn't come with me.
14:27And then they came.
14:28I had tea with me.
14:30I thought I had tea with me.
14:32I thought they were buying it.
14:34I thought they were being nice.
14:36I was waiting like this.
14:38They gave it to me.
14:40I thought I shouldn't judge people
14:42by how they look.
14:44So it was like, thank you for your hard work.
14:47Because...
14:48I didn't care.
14:50I was told to open the door.
14:54That's amazing.
14:56I didn't do anything.
14:57I didn't do anything.
14:59I'm your slave.
15:01You did your best, didn't you?
15:02You told me to open the door.
15:05I...
15:05That's the bottom of the entertainment industry.
15:08That's the bottom.
15:10You have to open the lid of the old man's bottle.
15:15It's over.
15:17I was sitting on the ground.
15:18I was doing business.
15:20First of all, you guys...
15:23Wait a minute.
15:23The fight is over at the end.
15:25The fight is over at the end.
15:28It's okay to do it once.
15:30I want to do it with you.
15:34Why?
15:35I don't want to do it.
15:37It's a big deal, but it's a small deal.
15:39I don't want to do it.
15:40What do you think of each other?
15:43What do you think of each other?
15:44He's a champion.
15:47We are also the champion of the A-1 Grand Prix.
15:51We have two wins in a row.
15:52We have two wins in a row before the A-1 Roman.
15:57I was shocked when I was attacked by the MCs at the A-1 Grand Prix.
16:06I was shocked when I was attacked by the MCs at the A-1 Grand Prix.
16:09I feel like I'm slipping when I'm attacked like that.
16:14I've felt that pressure from the two champions.
16:18I've felt that pressure from the two champions.
16:19He's talking.
16:21I want to ask you something.
16:22I want to ask you something.
16:23How did you get used to the pressure?
16:27You've been doing it for over a year.
16:30I'm getting worried.
16:33I'm getting worried.
16:35That's amazing.
16:36I'm getting worried.
16:41I'm saying this for the sake of some of the viewers.
16:43I'm saying this for the sake of some of the viewers.
16:43I don't want to do it with you.
16:45That's right.
16:45We've been studying hard.
16:48And we've been sitting in a chair.
16:49When you were sitting on the ground, you dropped your thing called a business card.
16:54First of all, you couldn't get into our classroom.
16:56You couldn't get into our classroom.
16:57In the end, the fight was over.
16:59That's right.
17:00In the end, the fight was over.
17:01It was a good time.
17:02It was a good time.
17:03At the end, the fight was over with a lot of complaints.