💥 ANALÍA, LA EXEMPLEADA DE WANDA NARA DISPARA CONTRA ELLA
"Me quiso obligar a decir que Maxi López trataba mal a sus hijos".
"Me quiso obligar a decir que Maxi López trataba mal a sus hijos".
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00:00I'm going to talk to Analia, who was an employee of Wanda and Mauro, who is on our cell phone, with Santi. Santi, good night.
00:10How are you, Angelito? How are you all on the floor?
00:12That's right, Analia has a lot to say, that she saw the birth of Cardiada, who accompanied Wanda in those first years,
00:19that she was not with the Simons, her bad family, and that, according to her, Wanda owes her 20,000 euros.
00:23And her passport, Angel, and everything.
00:26And my suitcase with things.
00:27How are you, Analia?
00:29Good afternoon, Angel. How are you?
00:30Thank you for being here.
00:31How are you?
00:32To chat for a little while. Very well, you?
00:33Thank you, not at all. Thank you for always being on the lookout.
00:37Thank you. Well, first I want to ask you if you were surprised by all this that is being published, all the chats, the fight, the end of the couple.
00:48No, I'm not surprised by any of them, really.
00:51Why?
00:51As I know them, no. Besides, I don't watch TV and I'm not surprised by anything.
00:57What I can tell you, what I've lived there when I've worked, and now I can't tell you what they live now because I don't know, but...
01:05And what did you live?
01:06What I've worked.
01:07What did you see?
01:08And I lived, I lived very sad things that they did to Maci Lope when she got engaged, and well, that she denied her children, things like that.
01:21And well, now everything is coming back.
01:24Of course.
01:25Life is a wheel and everything is paid in life. When you do something wrong, you have to pay.
01:30It comes back. Do you have good memories of Maci Lopez?
01:34Of course, Maci is an excellent person. The other day I heard that they said that I defended him. I defend him because he is a great person, as a father and as a person.
01:44He is a great person. He always welcomed us well at his house when we went with his children. I was not his employee, I was Wanda's employee and Mauro Icardi.
01:53So I went, when his children went to his house to visit him, they sent me with the boys, so there I met Maci.
02:01How long were you working for Wanda and Mauro?
02:06And in Italy I was six months, and here also like six months more, here in Argentina, so more or less a year and a bit I worked with them.
02:17And how does the relationship end? What happens?
02:19Look, on my part everything was fine. She turned against me because she wanted me to say things that I did not have to say about Maci.
02:29She turned against me and well, that's why I did not want to say things that were not true, because she took me to a prosecutor's office to say things that were not true about Maci.
02:43What did she ask you?
02:44She wanted to accuse him of mistreating the children, well, horrible things that I am very ashamed to say, which I think I already told you, but well, I am very ashamed to say it.
02:56I think it's all been told.
02:59So it's similar to what's happening now with Icardi, right?
03:02And yes, it could be.
03:05Did she offer you money?
03:07I can't tell you now because I'm not in it.
03:09Did she offer you money or something in exchange?
03:14She offered me a car, yes, she offered me a car.
03:18She asked me why I had gone to work with them, what I needed.
03:24And I told her that I already had my house, that I wanted to work to buy a car.
03:28And she told me, you would have told me, that I and Maduro would give you the car.
03:32That's what she told me.
03:33So she wanted you to testify in the complaint of violence, because at some point she also made a complaint of gender violence to Maci.
03:41In that case, she wanted you to be a false witness.
03:46That's right.
03:47And there was never any...
03:48She took me to a prosecutor's office, which was Ana Roffert, Ana, her lawyer, which is Ana.
03:54And then it was Ana Nora, it was Mauro and it was her.
03:59And Ana, what did she tell you?
04:00They were in the prosecutor's office with me.
04:01Ana, did she prepare you to testify?
04:02Of course.
04:04Of course, she told me to say things about Maci.
04:07For example?
04:08But I didn't say, I told the truth.
04:11For example, what kind of things did she ask you to say?
04:14If you dare, obviously.
04:15To the father.
04:17Something bad about the boys.
04:19That he mistreated them.
04:20That he mistreated his children.
04:22Exactly.
04:23In other words, Rosenfeld and Wanda sat you at home and told you, you have to say this, this, this.
04:28Yes.
04:30And you, what did you tell them and what did you tell them?
04:35I told him that, well, that I was going to say, but the truth, that I was going to tell the truth.
04:40And that's how I went and told the truth.
04:43Of course.
04:44That it wasn't like that.
04:45In other words, that Maci was a good father.
04:47That it wasn't like that.
04:48And they kicked you out.
04:49And they kicked you out.
04:50He was coming, I mean, of course, then they fired me.
04:55After they fired you, did you talk to Maci?
04:57Did you tell him about this situation that they had asked you to?
05:00Yes, yes, of course.
05:01I told him.
05:02And what did Maci tell you?
05:03I told him that they had taken me to a prosecutor's office.
05:05No, I called him when I was at the prosecutor's office.
05:08Because I was desperate.
05:09They wanted me to say things about him.
05:12So I called Maci and that day he answered me.
05:15And well, I told him, look, Maci, they're telling me that I'm saying bad things about you.
05:19And I'm not going to say, I'm going to tell the truth.
05:21Yes, Ani, don't worry.
05:22He told me, I'm going with my lawyer.
05:23My lawyer is going to tell you what you have to tell me, he tells me.
05:26But don't worry, he says, because Wanda is not going to go through with you.
05:29And this was here?
05:30I told him that I was afraid that Wanda would go through.
05:32Yes, this that happened to you, did it happen to other employees?
05:37I have no idea.
05:38I'm talking for myself.
05:39Of course.
05:40This was in Italy or was it here?
05:41No, no, I didn't find out.
05:42Here?
05:43In Argentina?
05:44It was here in Argentina.
05:45Aha.
05:46Yes, in Argentina.
05:47Well, and there they fire you.
05:48In Argentina.
05:49And they keep your things and owe you money.
05:52Yes.
05:53Of course.
05:54He didn't pay me.
05:55And he also made me sign a blank paper.
05:57She wanted to bribe me in white.
05:59Because I was black with her.
06:01And the last day that I asked for my salary, that I had to pay because I owed taxes in my house, I had to pay and that.
06:08And she told me that if I didn't sign the paper, she wasn't going to pay me the salary.
06:14Distorted.
06:15So I told her, Wanda, how do you do that to me?
06:20I tell her, you never made me sign anything so that you pay me the salary.
06:25And that day she wanted me to sign a blank paper because I was in white.
06:31And well, she made me sign and I think she gave me a month because I owed her several months of salary.
06:37Why did she owe you?
06:38So that I pay my debt.
06:39If she's a millionaire.
06:40Why did she owe you?
06:41I don't know.
06:42She didn't pay me.
06:43I don't know.
06:44She doesn't like to pay the employees apparently.
06:46You didn't have your salary.
06:47I didn't have my money.
06:48And why does she keep your passport?
06:52It's a crime.
06:53Yes, that's why.
06:54Passport is a crime.
06:55But she says she stole it.
06:57And I don't know.
06:58You have to ask her because I have my suitcase with clothes that she doesn't even see me walk because I'm already big.
07:06At that time I was young.
07:08But why did she do that?
07:10You didn't see her anymore.
07:11There was no occasion.
07:12What happened with that?
07:13No, I didn't see her anymore.
07:14I mean, they invited us there to Santa Bárbara.
07:18They took me there.
07:19Ana Rosenberg was also there that day.
07:21Maxi López took me with his brother.
07:24And me and my partner, supposedly, to return the suitcases and passports.
07:28They made me go to Santa Bárbara's house.
07:31We entered the country house with Maxi López in the car.
07:34And we got there and they didn't want to give us our passports.
07:37Ana Rosenberg treated us very badly.
07:38You don't have to have your passport.
07:39It's a personal document.
07:40You don't have to report it.
07:41Of course.
07:42You have to ask her.
07:43Are you surprised that Wanda and Maxi are now in an excellent relationship?
07:46At least what we see, of course, in the images, right?
07:48Are you surprised by this approach?
07:50Yes, but Maxi should do it for the boys.
07:53Maxi is a respectful guy.
07:55At least from what I saw, he is an educated guy.
07:59I think for his children he is a good father.
08:03It is the only word I can tell you that he is a good father.
08:05Now, regardless of ...
08:07Well, you are saying that he is an excellent father.
08:09At that time, some audios had been broadcasted, just like now,
08:12where Maxi was heard screaming, taken out of himself.
08:15Have you ever witnessed a situation like this?
08:18No, never.
08:20No, not from him.
08:21At that time, for having declared ...
08:23Yes, there were many situations in which Wanda treated him badly.
08:28Yes, obviously.
08:29I mean, did you hear her screaming at him or insulting him?
08:33Yes, many times.
08:34Very ugly things in front of the boys.
08:36But he, I think, is his example.
08:38At that time, for having declared ...
08:40He said ugly things, I don't know.
08:44He said ugly things to Wanda.
08:47Like what?
08:48Mauro ...
08:49Maxi ...
08:50What's his name?
08:51Wanda told Maxi things.
08:53I don't know, daring things.
08:55I can't tell you.
08:56Another example?
08:57Yes, yes.
08:58I mean, daring things.
08:59And Mauro, to Wanda, did you share their intimacy?
09:02Because, well, now a lot of mistreatment is coming to light from both sides and situations.
09:07Let's say, how was that daily life between them when they were still there starting?
09:14And well, I didn't like it very much.
09:16I had already said that Mauro, as he treated the boys, was not as real as he looked.
09:22As they said he was, Mauro, a good father.
09:24No, no.
09:25With Maxi's boys he was not such a good father.
09:27But well, at the time I lived there, then I don't know.
09:31Mau, but what happened?
09:32Then he changed, then he was a father.
09:34But what happened with respect to that situation with the children?
09:36There were things that, for example, he denied Valentino that he saw his father's football game,
09:43that Valentino cried, that he wanted to see the game, and he denied him.
09:47All those things like that.
09:48I think that a person, a good person, doesn't do it.
09:52Yes, but did Mauro do it, let's say, for his own reason?
09:56Or did Wanda ask Mauro to do it and Mauro did it?
10:00No, I don't know that.
10:01I can't tell you that because I don't know.
10:03I saw what they did, but I don't know if they did it because...
10:05Because she told him or because of him, I don't know.
10:08I don't know.
10:09But they both did it, I think they were both...
10:11That's the time I was there.
10:13Now I can't tell you because I don't know.
10:15What you lived in this house...
10:17I left work...
10:18Yes, what you lived in this house had already happened to you in another house,
10:21or was it the first time you witnessed things like that?
10:26No, the first time.
10:27I don't...
10:28I mean, I had...
10:29I worked with a lot of people, and with good people.
10:33Something like that never happened to me,
10:34that they keep my things, my passport,
10:36they don't pay my salary, it's the first time.
10:39Yes, it's the fourth time, of course.
10:40It's the first time something like that happens to me.
10:41Everything you're telling is the fourth time from a person who employs you.
10:43Yes, yes.
10:44How are they? Are they going to steal your things?
10:47Of course.
10:48Yes, yes.
10:49For what? Just for bad luck?
10:51Because why do they want your suitcase with clothes, the passport?
10:54I mean, what did they want with your passport?
10:56And yes, they didn't...
10:57On top of that, they asked me to return it.
10:58Of course, of course.
10:59That's what seems strange to me, like a mockery.
11:01They took me to return it to me and my partner.
11:04That day you mentioned it.
11:05Yes, they took me and my partner.
11:08They took us to...
11:09I mean, we went with Maxi, because they told us they were going to return it,
11:12and they didn't return it.
11:13But why with Maxi?
11:14Yes, that.
11:15Why?
11:16Did you continue working with Maxi afterwards?
11:17Or did Maxi offer you something?
11:18But tell me one thing.
11:19No, no.
11:20You say they owe you salary.
11:21No, I didn't work with Maxi anymore.
11:22They owe you salary.
11:23I never worked with Maxi.
11:24How much salary do they owe you?
11:25And you acted legally, because even though you're black,
11:28you have ways of proving that they owed you money and that you worked.
11:32Did you do something?
11:33Did they pay you?
11:34Do they owe you a lot of salary?
11:35How do you say that?
11:36Who's talking to me?
11:37Marcela Faudale.
11:40What's up?
11:41How are you, Faudale?
11:42No, they didn't pay me.
11:44The last few months I worked, they didn't pay me.
11:47And why didn't you sue them?
11:48And why didn't you sue them?
11:49Why didn't you make a trial?
11:50Why didn't you sue them?
11:51You said I sued them.
11:52What am I doing?
11:53Ah, you have a trial.
11:54Well, that's what we didn't know.
11:55And yes, I have an 11-year trial.
11:57Ah, 11 years.
11:5811 years you're in trial?
12:00The trial is 11 years old and it doesn't come out.
12:03What's wrong with Wanda that the trial doesn't come out?
12:06Ah, well, that's a problem.
12:07There's no justice for me, for the poor.
12:09For Wanda's domestic workers, there's no justice because I'm not the only one there, huh?
12:13Carmen too.
12:14Carmen too.
12:15I'm not the only one there, huh?
12:16And there was another girl of your time.
12:18Yes, this is my partner.
12:20It's true.
12:21My partner, I'm not going to give her name.
12:23Yes, she doesn't want to talk.
12:24We contacted her, but she doesn't want to talk.
12:26No, no.
12:27You said $20,000, right?
12:28No, not anymore.
12:29You said $20,000 that they would give you.
12:30Euros.
12:31Euros.
12:32A thousand euros.
12:33What does your lawyer tell you about the delay?
12:34Does he tell you anything?
12:35Yes, we are there, you see, because I changed my lawyer now.
12:41I changed my lawyer.
12:43Because they made me an offer that was a shame.
12:4710 pesos.
12:48Because it was a shame.
12:49Tell him.
12:5010 pesos from here in Argentina.
12:51How much?
12:52A salary from here in Argentina that I earn here in Argentina.
12:55Now.
12:56A month from now, of course.
13:00And at that moment that you defended Maxi, did he help you in anything after this?
13:06Did he give you a hand in life?
13:08Never.
13:09I don't need it.
13:10Oh, another one.
13:11No, no.
13:12Well, but Maxi could also have helped solve this conflict.
13:13Of course.
13:14Such a good father, such a good man.
13:15But he was not my boss.
13:16He never employed me.
13:17But he could have interceded.
13:18Yes, but I gave him a hand.
13:19No.
13:20Yes, actually here the responsible ones.
13:21He gave me a hand because I was with his children that day.
13:24They are the two of them.
13:25And that day I gave the children to Wanda.
13:27From the first moment, Wanda raised this situation of having you as a black employee,
13:32let's say, because we don't make noise to a girl with so much money,
13:35and with Icardi, right?
13:36With multimillionaires.
13:37They spend their time talking about that.
13:38Of course.
13:39They show it all the time, right?
13:44Of course.
13:45She never wanted to have you in white, but she never raised the possibility of having you in white.
13:49Never, never.
13:50The last day that she was supposedly leaving me without a job,
13:54she wanted me to sign a blank paper.
13:56In fact, she made me sign a blank paper.
13:58That's crazy, huh?
13:59And in that blank paper, what did she fill in after?
14:01Was it a resignation letter?
14:02Was it a, I don't know, a written letter from you?
14:04No, I don't know what she would have filled in.
14:05I don't know, because I didn't see it.
14:06But didn't she present it in court?
14:07I only signed it because I needed the money.
14:09No, because possibly she has, I imagine, I'm speculating, right?
14:14That when they make you sign a blank paper,
14:16then they say that you have nothing to claim.
14:18I don't know her.
14:19Did she present it in court?
14:23No, I have no idea about that.
14:24She made me sign a blank paper.
14:26And did you sign it?
14:27I said it in the prosecutor's office, I said it everywhere.
14:29Yes, I signed it.
14:30You signed that paper, but they didn't give you the money or your suitcase with clothes.
14:34Nothing.
14:35No, nothing.
14:36That day you left without anything from that house.
14:37Nothing at all.
14:38Analia.
14:39Why so perverse?
14:40And in these 11 years of trial, did Wanda, Mauro try to communicate
14:44to be able to fix things?
14:46Never.
14:47Never?
14:48Never.
14:49The phone is still the same, the same as mine.
14:51I didn't change my phone.
14:53I have the same phone as the other day.
14:55I said it in the audio I sent.
14:58So, everything.
15:00Never.
15:01Now, all that life…
15:02She's not interested.
15:03The truth is, yes, evidently…
15:04She's not interested in fixing anything.
15:05She doesn't care about anything.
15:06Neither Mauro, nor her, because…
15:08Neither of them, yes.
15:10No.
15:11All this life that they show…
15:13She works for them, it can be seen.
15:15All this life that they showed, at least, before fighting,
15:18of luxury, of happiness, of trips…
15:21Was it like that?
15:23Or more or less?
15:26And I don't know what to tell you about that.
15:28The only thing I can tell you is that when I was there, well…
15:32After what they did, apart from the trips, I don't know.
15:35I don't know.
15:36But I mean, all the time they show that they buy this,
15:38that they buy the car, that they buy the mansion,
15:40that they buy the other…
15:41Did you see them like that?
15:42Spending money all the time or not?
15:45No, when I was there, when I started with them,
15:48they were newlyweds.
15:49I mean…
15:50Of course.
15:51No, no, I didn't see all that.
15:52All pink.
15:53And did you see them happy or…
15:54They were in trouble with Max and…
15:55I mean, did you see them happy or…
15:57And there…
15:58Or was it a staging too?
15:59Because in this, what do you say?
16:00That they were all the time thinking about how to bother Max.
16:02Yes, they were newlyweds.
16:03I saw them.
16:04Of course.
16:05Yes, exactly.
16:06All nervous.
16:07But what I want…
16:08Analia, I would like to ask you.
16:10While you were on their side, let's put it in some way,
16:13you worked, it was all love, all peace,
16:15they gave you everything, they gave you all their possibilities,
16:18economically, barbarous.
16:20Now, at the moment that you were no longer on their side,
16:23what attitude did they take and how did they start to treat you?
16:26Because I understand from what you tell me that they treated you
16:28as if you were the same shit, sorry for the word.
16:32And yes, obviously.
16:33They treated her like an heir.
16:34Obviously, I imagine.
16:35But well, I treated her, I took care of her children.
16:39I think the most precious thing that one has in life
16:41are the children, right?
16:42Yes.
16:43And were they present in the upbringing of the boys?
16:49No, no, because me and my partner,
16:51we were with them all day,
16:53she appeared in the photo, nothing more, as I told you.
16:56I'm telling you about the time I was there.
16:59When you were little, the boys were little.
17:01Yes, my part.
17:02They were the three little boys, yes.
17:04I ask you because they spend time saying…
17:06She appeared in the photo.
17:07I am a good father, I am a good mother,
17:09they spend time fighting over the same thing
17:11and you told something else.
17:12Well, I, as a bad mother of her, as a good mother,
17:15I didn't see anything.
17:16So, well, that's what I saw there when I was with the children.
17:19But what did you see so serious to say that she is not a good mother?
17:25And she denied that her son was crying,
17:27she asked him to talk to his dad and he wouldn't let him.
17:30Do you think she's a good mother?
17:32In other words, she prioritized her war with Maxi over the boys.
17:35Exactly, over the boys.
17:37But then she, personally…
17:38That's what I tell you, what I lived.
17:40Of course, she, personally, because we saw it in what she showed,
17:43cooking, playing with the boys, the same as now.
17:46You saw that in everyday life.
17:52That was all photo.
17:54Who cooked? You?
17:56All photos.
17:57Yes, I cooked, I perspired there.
18:00She showed photos.
18:01Analia, I want to stop in this that you said…
18:03What was it?
18:04No, in this that is also happening now,
18:06it is good to recap 10 years ago,
18:08you said that Wanda didn't let the boys get in touch with the father.
18:13They talked about that at home, Mauro and her.
18:15They planned.
18:16They made a plan, because I also understand that at that time they recorded it too.
18:20Yes, obviously.
18:21You can tell us how…
18:22They forbade us, obviously.
18:23How was that?
18:24Obviously, they forbade us.
18:25They took our phones,
18:27so that we don't contact Maxi,
18:30he desperately called us to raise his children.
18:32Communicated.
18:34Exactly.
18:35Maxi gave us each a phone,
18:37and she left like that,
18:39I don't know if she said we stole her iPhone,
18:42I don't know what she said.
18:43Because Maxi gave us a phone,
18:44because they took our phones.
18:46He gave us each a phone,
18:49of the girls we were working with,
18:51taking care of their children,
18:53so that he could communicate with his children,
18:55and then they took our phones.
18:59So it was like a conspiracy…
19:02Of course.
19:03Of course,
19:04then we couldn't even communicate with our families,
19:06because we didn't have phones.
19:09I have a question.
19:10When you were working there,
19:12did you see,
19:13they showed up in audio, chat,
19:14I mean, they started to show everything they recorded.
19:16They recorded each other.
19:17Did they record Maxi Lopez too, when they talked?
19:23No, I don't remember that.
19:24You didn't see it.
19:25I don't know how to tell you.
19:26And the grandmother,
19:27I mean, Wanda's mother,
19:28Nora,
19:30did you participate in the upbringing of the kids,
19:32or were you just the maids?
19:34She was quiet.
19:35No, we were the maids,
19:37but when there was trouble,
19:38she was always there,
19:39because she liked trouble.
19:40To the mother?
19:41To Norita?
19:42She liked trouble?
19:43What kind of trouble?
19:44Because she said everywhere,
19:45no, I don't get involved,
19:46I have nothing to do with it.
19:47Yes, yes, that's true.
19:48How did she like trouble?
19:49She told me to get involved in everything.
19:51She's a busy old woman.
19:53Now I'll tell Nora,
19:54to Nora?
19:55You know she looks like a busy old woman?
19:57I'll tell her the name.
19:58Do you remember that Carmen was...
19:59Yes, she spoiled the food for the maids.
20:01How did she spoil the food?
20:03What Carmen said is true.
20:05Yes, she spoiled the food for the maids.
20:07Is she a rat?
20:08Of course she is.
20:09So she didn't pay?
20:10Of course she didn't pay.
20:11At that level,
20:12she's the worst.
20:14But guys, we can't talk about one.
20:16We can't talk about one.
20:17She's the worst.
20:18You can't analyze the meanness of a person,
20:19even if they have a lot of money.
20:21She's a rat, she's a rat.
20:22And what was the worst thing Nora had?
20:24That's how Nora is,
20:25but well,
20:26she wasn't my boss,
20:27but I say what I lived with her.
20:29But wait, I mean...
20:30She liked to mess around.
20:32She liked to mess around.
20:33She didn't care about the grandkids,
20:34because she made them cry.
20:36Doing what?
20:39Denying her, for example,
20:41that she saw her dad and the kids.
20:43Everything happened because of that.
20:45She was fed up with taking out the kids.
20:47She threw firewood to make a mess?
20:49I mean, she made a mess.
20:50Exactly.
20:51Look how good.
20:52She looks like such a good grandmother.
20:53And the grandfather,
20:54the grandfather Andrés,
20:55was involved
20:56or not?
20:57He was, I think.
20:59No, I didn't see that man much.
21:01No, no, no.
21:02He doesn't.
21:03No, because he disappears when he enters Mauro.
21:05Yes, that's why.
21:06He was with Karinara.
21:07He was fighting with her.
21:08Just at the wedding,
21:09he was with Karinara,
21:10and then there was...
21:11Disappearance.
21:12Yes, yes, yes.
21:13Was he invited to the wedding or not?
21:14Yes, yes, he disappeared.
21:15Well, I didn't know that man very well.
21:17And this...
21:18No, I can't say anything about him
21:19because I didn't know him.
21:20Did you go to the wedding or not?
21:23Yes, I was at the wedding.
21:24Did you go to the wedding?
21:25Did you go to the wedding?
21:26To work.
21:27Oh, how did we not see each other there?
21:28Oh, you know Ángel.
21:29I was at that wedding.
21:30I was working there.
21:31Were you working?
21:32I was with the guys.
21:33Of course.
21:34She was working,
21:35taking care of the guys.
21:36Yes, I was with the guys,
21:37but in a dressing room.
21:38I didn't go out much.
21:39I didn't go out much.
21:40Ah, of course.
21:41The guys were...
21:42I think Karinara Benedito came out.
21:43When she appeared in a sulky
21:44with a white horse.
21:45Do you remember?
21:46I appeared there.
21:47What a beauty, right?
21:48Just a part,
21:49and then I got into the dressing room
21:50that was with Paula,
21:51Chave,
21:52and I don't know who else.
21:53Ah, Lizzy Taliani was also with me,
21:56and I don't remember who else.
21:58Of course, Paula was invited.
21:59I was with the guys in a dressing room.
22:00Lizzy didn't remember,
22:01but Paula was invited.
22:02Of course, at that time Benedito,
22:03Maxilope's youngest son,
22:05was a baby,
22:06who was a year and a bit.
22:07Of course.
22:08Of course, there was Zaira.
22:09I don't remember.
22:10She was walking.
22:11There was Pico Monaco too.
22:12Yes, yes, there was Zaira.
22:13Zaira, what's up?
22:17And I had very little dealings with Zaira,
22:19but well,
22:20I think she's more conscious than Wanda.
22:24She's the most normal one.
22:26She didn't hide the food or anything.
22:27She's the most normal one.
22:29No, no, I hope she's still the same.
22:32And we don't know.
22:33I've bought her.
22:34Yes, because that day
22:35Wanda's guys were there,
22:36and it's true,
22:37they were in a room.
22:38They weren't at the party.
22:39They practically weren't there.
22:40Yes, no, they were with me.
22:42They were with me in a dressing room.
22:45That was the party
22:46where they beat up Apolino.
22:48No, they beat up Apolino
22:49in the first one,
22:50in Maxi López's wedding.
22:52The second one,
22:53I didn't go to the first one,
22:54Apolino did.
22:55The second one,
22:56we went with Janine and Pilar Smith
22:58in the San Susi Palace.
22:59Marina was there too, right?
23:00She was.
23:01Marina wasn't there.
23:02Marina was there,
23:03Rosenfeld was there,
23:04Paula Chávez was there.
23:06Who else was there?
23:07There were many.
23:08Yes, yes, yes.
23:09I think Zitanich was there.
23:10There weren't many players,
23:11to be honest,
23:12we didn't see many.
23:13And it was all very fast.
23:14Chávez was like the forbidden word.
23:17Yes, yes,
23:18and there weren't many family members either.
23:21He wasn't there.
23:24One of his brothers or cousins said,
23:26do you know Wanda Silla from the video?
23:28The brother, I think it was.
23:29I don't remember,
23:30it's been so long.
23:31No, the family didn't really agree.
23:32But I think they were there.
23:33I think they were there anyway.
23:34He gave me a scolding.
23:35The father.
23:36Analia,
23:37how long did it take you to cheer up?
23:39Because what you're telling me,
23:41I understand that there was a person
23:42who never reported.
23:45How long did it take you to cheer up?
23:47Because I also understand that
23:49they are people who have power,
23:51so you must have been afraid.
23:53Sure.
23:57No, I wasn't afraid.
23:59I reported her the year I stopped working.
24:05And well.
24:06The short circuit for you to stop working.
24:09Why does it happen?
24:10What's going on?
24:13It's because I went to the prosecutor's office
24:15and I wanted to say something about Maxi.
24:17When she didn't want to report.
24:18The prosecutor's office.
24:19I told her.
24:20And you said that...
24:21As she knows...
24:23Yes, finish, finish.
24:24As she knows...
24:28When she took me to the prosecutor's office,
24:30they wanted me to say something about Maxi
24:32that I didn't say.
24:33I said the truth,
24:34how I lived in the house,
24:35and nothing else.
24:36There it is, yes.
24:37Where was that prosecutor's office?
24:38They wanted me to invent things.
24:40Where was it?
24:41San Isidro.
24:42San Isidro.
24:43In Tigre?
24:44San Isidro.
24:45San Isidro or in Tigre?
24:46There.
24:47In Tigre?
24:48No, in San Isidro.
24:49Oh, San Isidro, ok.
24:50When you went to accompany the guys to Maxi's house,
24:52did they ask you to investigate or find out
24:55or tell them something about what was going on in Maxi's house?
25:01Yes, Wanda wanted me...
25:04That's why she took my cell phone,
25:06because I didn't tell her anything.
25:08But what did she ask, for example?
25:11Who was Maxi with?
25:13What did he do?
25:14Who did the guys sleep with?
25:16All those things.
25:18Who did the guys shower with?
25:21Well, she wanted to get Maxi involved.
25:24It's been a while since I've been there.
25:25Once, I don't know if you saw it,
25:28Mauro Icardi told on Instagram
25:32that Wanda and him, Wanda and Mauro,
25:34planned a lot of situations
25:37for the press to talk,
25:38for the press to speculate, blah, blah, blah.
25:41Did you see those things or weren't you there at that time?
25:45No, no, no.
25:46I haven't seen the press or anything.
25:48I'll tell you the truth,
25:49I see something about Wanda and I change, because I don't...
25:52No, no, but I mean, when you worked there...
25:54No, no.
25:55Didn't you hear them say,
25:56well, let's do this so we can talk?
25:58To plan.
25:59Of course.
26:00To put together situations.
26:02No, they always got together...
26:04They told us things that, for example,
26:06Maxi came looking for the kids
26:08and they told us that they weren't there
26:10and the kids were there, things like that.
26:14I don't know if they planned it,
26:15they didn't tell me at the time, I don't know.
26:17Of course, the kids were there
26:19and Maxi came knocking on the door
26:21and they told us that the kids weren't at home
26:24and they were there, things like that.
26:26And they told you?
26:27Because he came to see them, he came from somewhere else.
26:29Did they tell you things, for example,
26:31that you had to tell Maxi, the kids, you know?
26:35Of course, if they filled his head against Maxi
26:38or told him to tell your dad things like that.
26:40Because sometimes the kids say, you know,
26:42and we've heard audio, they say,
26:44Mom, things like that.
26:45Did they do that with the kids?
26:47With Francesquita.
26:48And yes, they probably did.
26:50Ah, but you didn't...
26:51Did they threaten the kids at some point?
26:53A lot of times.
26:54Valentino, Coqui, a lot of times.
26:57Because they wanted to go with their dad and he wouldn't let them go.
27:00Analia, did you receive threats?
27:02No.
27:05No, I didn't receive threats,
27:07but they offered me some money,
27:09which was a shame, I already told you about it.
27:12And, well...
27:16I took a guy to the DA's office,
27:18he's a hairdresser, his name is...
27:20I don't remember his name.
27:21Kenny.
27:22Kenny Palacio.
27:23Kenny Palacio.
27:25What did Kenny offer you?
27:29He took him to the DA's office,
27:31where I went the other day to an audition.
27:33And Kenny said things that I didn't know,
27:35I never saw Kenny working with her.
27:37Ah, did Kenny lie too?
27:38He said it was out of his trust.
27:40And that's what Wanda pays him for,
27:41to make him lie, supposedly.
27:44But the DA's office...
27:46I don't know Kenny, I don't know him.
27:48He's a criminal.
27:50Yes, he's a criminal.
27:51And well, if they told you they wanted to make you lie,
27:54why can't they make someone else lie?
27:56Sure, Kenny and his family.
27:57I'm sure they did, but they're paying him.
27:59Not me, I didn't receive any money.
28:01No, well, that's why...
28:02No, well, you didn't want to lie, but others...
28:05Others accept.
28:07And what car did he offer you, do you remember?
28:09Well, Kenny got her a car.
28:10No, I don't remember.
28:11A Dodge.
28:12But he told you like that?
28:13Look, if you say this, this, this,
28:14that's what Wanda Rosenfeld told you.
28:15I don't understand cars,
28:16so I didn't ask for any car brand.
28:18She said she was going to give me a car,
28:19but I didn't tell her.
28:20Wanda.
28:21I asked for the Rolls-Royce.
28:22But why was she going to give him the car?
28:23Try talking about one.
28:24Wanda offered you the car, not Rosenfeld.
28:26Ah, I don't know, I don't know that.
28:28I don't know that.
28:30What don't you know?
28:31I'm finding out now.
28:34I can't hear your question.
28:35Good luck with Kenny, then.
28:37Be careful, I hope you don't...
28:38No, Angel, to add to that,
28:40the vehicle is a Jeep, a Renegade.
28:42Mauro gave it to her.
28:43Ah.
28:44Mauro gave it to her.
28:45Well, I'm satisfied that he pays my salary,
28:47what he owes me, and that's it.
28:48Of course, of course.
28:49That he doesn't give me a car or anything.
28:50I want my salary, what I worked,
28:52what I perspired cleaning in that house,
28:54taking care of his children.
28:56That's what I need, that he pays me what he owes me,
28:58that's it.
28:59After 11 years, he owes you a lot more.
29:00I don't ask him to give me anything.
29:02Yes, of course.
29:03Exactly.
29:04I don't ask him to give me anything,
29:05only what's mine.
29:08Only what's mine.
29:09Was it very dirty?
29:10Nothing else.
29:11Let's go.
29:14You don't say.
29:15No, as you said two or three times...
29:16He's already wanting to get very far.
29:17No, no, you already told me everything.
29:19I said cleaning the house.
29:20I say, but if you said perspire, perspire, perspire...
29:24Because it was a...
29:25Yes, one perspires working.
29:26It's a lot of salt, yes.
29:27You don't perspire because you're sitting there talking,
29:29nothing else.
29:30I work.
29:32No, because here I perspired, perspired, perspired.
29:34You don't know how to perspire.
29:36Ángel Ebrito is sitting.
29:38They left everything lying down.
29:41They're all sitting talking, they don't perspire.
29:43I work and perspire.
29:44No, because you watch TV, nothing else.
29:46You don't know everything we perspire during the day.
29:48You don't know what it is.
29:49And I don't know.
29:50We do everything, dear.
29:52I cooked, I made the empanadas for Mauro and Cardi, everything.
29:55I also cooked.
29:56I perspired.
29:57Ana Lía, when you went...
29:59Did you go with the guys to Maxi's?
30:02Did you stay with the guys at Maxi's when they went to see his dad?
30:07Obviously, yes.
30:08And there at Maxi's, did you take care of the guys or did Maxi take care of himself?
30:15We took care of everything, we helped each other.
30:18He helped us, we bathed him, he was there, we made him food, he was there, everything.
30:24I don't know about this part, Ana Lía.
30:26Does Maxi have a family?
30:28Did you see his family participating with the guys or not?
30:33No, not at that time.
30:34Not at that time, because he was in...
30:36I don't remember the name of the place where he was.
30:38In Catania?
30:40Yes, in Catania.
30:42We were going to Catania and...
30:46Yes, no, no, no.
30:49His mom was there once, but I wasn't there when she was visiting him.
30:53Of course, because Maxi's family has a very low profile.
30:55Yes, yes.
30:56They have a brother, they are acquaintances.
30:58They never got involved.
30:59Let's remember that Valentino stayed to live at his uncle's house.
31:01He has an excellent relationship with all the families, very low profile.
31:04River is a loved family too.
31:06And in the case of Mauro's family, did you meet them?
31:09Were they there, weren't they there?
31:11Yes, I met his mom.
31:12His mom's name is Ana Lía, like me.
31:14Yes.
31:15She's a very nice mom.
31:16She's a good person, the mother.
31:17I don't know where the son came from.
31:20A serious complaint.
31:21And the father.
31:22He really likes her.
31:23Yes, he likes her a lot.
31:25I didn't meet the father.
31:27I didn't meet the father.
31:29No, I met the sister.
31:31And I had two baby brothers who were twins.
31:34Yes, Ivana.
31:36And nothing else.
31:37And how did you get in touch to work with them?
31:42Who took you, who recommended you?
31:45Nora, Wanda's mom.
31:47And where did she know you from?
31:49The bad old woman.
31:50In Santa Bárbara.
31:51I'm not telling you that I was in a replacement.
31:53And just that day I was finishing, I was leaving to go to my house in the country, Santa Bárbara.
31:59And there Nora found me and took me in the car to the exit.
32:04And well, on that journey we talked and she told me that she needed an employee.
32:07And I tell her, just when I ran out of work, I ran out of a substitute.
32:11But I didn't even know it was for Wanda.
32:14When you found out it was Wanda, what did you say?
32:16Did you get happy or did you say uh?
32:18No, because I didn't know what family it was.
32:20The other day I went back to the interview and they told me about the entrance.
32:26Do you know where you're going?
32:27No.
32:28I tell them, you're going to Maxi López's house.
32:29Ah, look, I told him.
32:30He's a River player, he told me.
32:32Ah, good, I told him.
32:33But I didn't really know who they were.
32:36And that's where I started.
32:38And then the papers for Italy, I imagine.
32:41You just mentioned…
32:42Of course, they made me the papers.
32:44Akenis Palacios, the other day in court, declared another hairdresser and friend of Wanda,
32:48who I really don't know, his name is…
32:50I don't know him.
32:52Damian had to testify for what is happening with Mauro, right?
32:56He was in favor of Wanda, one of the witnesses who presented Wanda.
32:59No, I don't know any of them.
33:01You didn't know him.
33:02I didn't know Maxi Palacios, no, no.
33:04I met Palacios the day he went to the prosecutor's office that I went to, nothing more.
33:07Of course.
33:08He said he knew me, but I had never seen him in my life.
33:10You saw him on TV.
33:11Dancing.
33:12And then I saw him on TV and I said, of course.
33:14And then I said, I never saw him with Wanda.
33:16Did you see how well he dances?
33:18And it must be true.
33:19But he said he knew you.
33:21Who laughs there? Who laughs so much?
33:26Everyone laughs here.
33:27Everyone, well…
33:28It's funny what they say.