Sejak pertama kali diperkenalkan, kendaraan listrik atau electric vehicle alias EV menjadi pusat perhatian di seluruh dunia. Bahkan pemerintah memberikan subsidi cukup besar untuk produk tersebut sebagai upaya menuju net zero emission yang digadang-gadang sejak era Presiden Joko Widodo.
Sejak 2022 lalu, sejumlah insentif diberikan pemerintah kepada produsen hingga pengguna kendaraan listrik, mulai dari pajak pertambahan nilai ditanggung pemerintah (PPN DTP) 10%, pajak penjualan barang mewah ditanggung pemerintah (PPNBM DTP) 100%,hingga subsidi untuk mobil listrik dengan harga di atas Rp200 juta hingga Rp800 juta.
Sejak 2022 lalu, sejumlah insentif diberikan pemerintah kepada produsen hingga pengguna kendaraan listrik, mulai dari pajak pertambahan nilai ditanggung pemerintah (PPN DTP) 10%, pajak penjualan barang mewah ditanggung pemerintah (PPNBM DTP) 100%,hingga subsidi untuk mobil listrik dengan harga di atas Rp200 juta hingga Rp800 juta.
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00:00But now, in 2025, we're already trending to the hub.
00:03So, it's like the petrol pump, the electric pump.
00:061000 meters above.
00:07Because there is natural science, if I look at it.
00:09The more he uses EV,
00:11he talks to himself, ma'am.
00:13Okay.
00:14Yes, he comments himself.
00:16Once he's confused, he asks.
00:17We give the science and knowledge.
00:19But it's getting better, he likes it more.
00:20He promotes himself, people buy EV again.
00:22How optimistic are you?
00:23Are we on the track?
00:24I think we're on the track.
00:26Yes.
00:26It depends on the perception, right?
00:27Because there is above and below.
00:29We're below, right?
00:30We fully support.
00:31And indeed, whatever percentage we have,
00:35we will support together with the government.
00:38So, very much optimistic.
00:46Hello, viewers of IDX Channel.
00:47We meet again at Fincast, your home of finance and investment.
00:50Back with me, Rosalind Cio.
00:52Very happy.
00:53In this episode, we will discuss about
00:55how the development of electric vehicles
00:58will be in 2025.
01:01And I'm here with our amazing guest,
01:04CEO of Voltron, Mr. Abdul Rahman Eli.
01:06Excuse me, sir, I call you Mr. Eli.
01:08Yes, just Mr. Eli.
01:10Mr. Eli.
01:10How are you, sir?
01:12I'm doing great in the studio this morning.
01:14Great, right?
01:15Super, super.
01:16Super.
01:16Suddenly, you're all green.
01:18Is it a promise, sir?
01:20Maybe it's fate, this morning.
01:23Great.
01:24Anyway, you're all green,
01:25towards renewable energy, right, sir?
01:28Okay, Mr. Zafin.
01:29So, since the first introduction of electric vehicles,
01:33we know that it has become the center of attention all over the world.
01:36Even the government has given a big subsidy or incentive
01:40for the product as an effort to reach net zero emissions in 2060,
01:44which has been long awaited since the era of President Joko Widodo's leadership.
01:48We know that since 2022,
01:50a number of incentives have been given by the government
01:53to the producers and users of electric vehicles.
01:55We know, starting from PPN DTP 10%,
01:58then there is PPN BM DTP 100%,
02:01up to a subsidy for electric cars
02:03with a price of more than IDR 200 million to IDR 800 million.
02:06If we look at the GINDO data from 2024,
02:12there is a significant increase in the number of 43,000 units for EVs.
02:16And how exactly is the potential of electric vehicles in 2025?
02:20We will discuss directly with Mr. Eli.
02:24When we look at the development of EVs in Indonesia,
02:30BYD has already dominated the market by 36% in just one year.
02:35Do you think this is also part of the support of regulations and incentives
02:40that are quite significant from the current government or what?
02:43Yes, we only see the last year.
02:47It is indeed very significant.
02:48So, the increment from the previous year was 153% compared to 2023.
02:58So, there must be a continuous stimulus from the government, right?
03:02So, the upstream is set up to make it smoother
03:05to import and even make TKDN locally for EVs.
03:10That's one thing. So, the demand is getting bigger.
03:12And the flood of brands from China is not bad either.
03:18The production is amazing.
03:21And the price was not affordable.
03:24For the past one year, it was affordable.
03:26So, people can afford to buy EVs.
03:30Secondly, when they use EVs, they feel comfortable.
03:33If it was years before, it was still a secondary car.
03:36For the past one year, it was a primary car.
03:38Once they get into EVs, they will definitely use EVs again.
03:44And the price is already affordable, right?
03:46So, the demand supply has been met.
03:48The demand supply has been met.
03:50So, if we look at 2024, the data shows an increase of 152% of EV users compared to the previous year.
03:58But if we talk about the development of EVs, it is already very significant in Indonesia.
04:02But the increase in the presence of SPKLU,
04:06is it comparable to the demand and the presence of EVs in the water, Mr. Eli?
04:10Not yet.
04:11Not yet? Okay.
04:12So, all the parallel markets are not comparable, right?
04:15But the business is there, right?
04:17Scientifically, we need one per 10.
04:20One charger for 10 cars, right?
04:22Okay.
04:23Now it's still there.
04:24But the good thing is that last year we had almost 45,000, right?
04:3045,000.
04:31Sales, right? 43,000 or so, right? Sales.
04:34That's a good thing.
04:36Where we see that if this year with the same number, it means that 45,000 will happen again.
04:42But my belief is that it will be more.
04:44Will be more.
04:45If last year it was 143%, now it can be above 200% this year, right?
04:51So, the addition for charging is SPKLU, we will definitely push it in that direction.
04:58So, if we install it in big cities, right?
05:01We start in Jakarta, yes.
05:04Previously, we still saw Surabaya, Malang, Jogja, Sudan, etc.
05:07In the end, it will all run there.
05:09So, the road is parallel. Still needed.
05:12Okay.
05:13If we talk about Voltron, it has been 3 years, right?
05:173 and a half years, yes.
05:183 and a half years.
05:19Maybe you can share a little bit of the review, sir.
05:223 and a half years as, let's say, a private market leader, right?
05:26Alhamdulillah, yes. So far, yes.
05:28Alhamdulillah, yes.
05:29But earlier it was also a pressure from the market leader, right?
05:323 and a half years, so far, how is it, sir?
05:34The existence of Voltron, then the differentiation in the middle,
05:39maybe there is PLN, Pertamina, like that.
05:41What is it like this far?
05:42I always tell my team,
05:46above the clouds, there is the sky.
05:49That's it, the simple thing, yes.
05:51So, let's just go.
05:52Keep working hard, yes.
05:55We work hard, we depend on God.
05:57Because there is a lot of pressure, right?
06:00It's pressure from financing, operational, IT, and then marketing programs, etc.
06:07So, in the end, we have to be all out.
06:12Passion is one thing, but hard work.
06:15Hard work, yes.
06:15And the challenge is still there.
06:17If I say there is none, we will stop doing something.
06:21Okay.
06:21But as far as your review, how much does our government support
06:28the ad for competition in SPKL Uswasta, sir?
06:32They are very supportive, the government is open.
06:35Yes, everyone is aware that the need until 2030 is up to 200,000 chatting stations.
06:42200,000?
06:43Yes, now our total with the government, with PLN, is only around 4,500.
06:494,500 from the target, right?
06:50If you look at 2 million in 2030, even if the government sets it to 1 million,
06:56if 1 million, it needs 100,000.
06:58Okay.
06:59If 2 million, it needs 200,000, right?
07:01So, if we talk about 101 million,
07:05if we talk about 100,000,
07:07now it's still 4,000, it still needs 9,000 or 9,500.
07:12So, it's still far.
07:13We have to collaborate.
07:15That's why they are very supportive.
07:17There are government companies, there are private companies, right?
07:20To cover each other up there.
07:22So, they are open.
07:24Maybe for the achievement last year, sir, can you share a little bit
07:29about the achievement or target in 2025?
07:32Is there anything from Valtron, sir?
07:34We want another 1,000 this year.
07:37Another 1,000?
07:37Hopefully, we can achieve it.
07:39How much is the total?
07:40This year, last year, we had 500.
07:42500.
07:43This year, the expectation is to add...
07:44Add 1,000, hopefully, yes, 1,000.
07:47But I think it should be possible.
07:50Because, indeed, the SPKLU business is highly intense in Capex, right?
07:55Yes.
07:55So, the span in Capex, and this is a long term.
07:58The return can be 3 to 5 years.
08:01Even beyond 5 years, right?
08:03So, we have to be very careful in buying the location.
08:07So, we don't just put it in and leave it.
08:09But we want to put it in the machine, someone will use it.
08:12Yielding is more of an assessment.
08:16Earlier, you talked about the location selection, sir.
08:19In terms of the franchise itself, this is for the SPKLU.
08:23Then, what are the conditions?
08:25Who decides the location, sir?
08:29The government has this, not slightly, there is a regulation.
08:33But we can penetrate for the location, right?
08:38So, naturally, if the charging is connected to the commercial building.
08:44Mostly, right?
08:45Well, we're definitely there.
08:47But now, in 2025, we're already trending to the hub.
08:50So, like the gasoline pump, the electricity pump.
08:531,000 meters up.
08:54With or without retail, right?
08:56So, this year, we will enter the hub station that has entered the semi-hub and hub, right?
09:02And we are also working now.
09:05We will launch in February.
09:07I think we are the first to launch 360 KW DC.
09:11Yes.
09:12So, we are heading there.
09:14Hopefully, by DC, we can produce a certain number of hub stations.
09:17Which we have started from January to the end of 2025.
09:22Okay.
09:23But talking about the development of SPKLU in remote areas.
09:27Maybe the access is quite difficult.
09:29Whether it's access, then infrastructure.
09:31What do you think about the development so far, Mr. Ali?
09:34We have to be more, stakeholders have to sit more often, right?
09:39So, like this.
09:40If there are us, private players.
09:43From the government, there are industrialists.
09:47There is ISDM, we have a regulator, right?
09:50For SPKLU permits.
09:52SPKLU, there is a government company.
09:55So, if all the parallels are good.
09:59For example, there is ATPM, for example, there are 20 EVs, right?
10:03If we talk to each other, we know that it will be distributed in Medan.
10:08Yes.
10:09In Makassar, that's it.
10:11Then, for example, in Kendari, that's it, right?
10:13There is already a demand.
10:15We must follow the charging.
10:17And until we install charging there, but there is no demand.
10:20Until no one uses that tool.
10:22So, we have to talk.
10:24We have to talk between us, then the relevant government, and also ATPM or OEM,
10:32so that we are together.
10:34So, we don't clash.
10:36Don't clash, okay.
10:38Talk about how the government then facilitates development
10:44or investors who invest in SPKLU, right?
10:47Related to the permit, the bureaucracy, and then also certain tax exemptions.
10:53Do you think this is enough to support or not?
10:57If it's downstream charging, we don't talk about taxes.
11:00If it's upstream, we talk about the car, import, we talk about taxes.
11:04And there is talk about fiscal.
11:08If it's downstream, it's mostly non-fiscal.
11:10So, there are a lot of downsides of non-fiscal.
11:13For example, selling price, buying price, right?
11:16So, we want to invest, for example, 100 M.
11:20Then the buying price, for example, X.
11:23Why don't we get this?
11:25When will we get our money back?
11:27We talk to the relevant government so that we can regulate the buying price.
11:33So, it's more to the selling price, buying price.
11:36But that's enough to help.
11:38Okay.
11:39In terms of market segmentation,
11:42maybe there are people who are still public
11:44related to the market target of Poltron as a private market leader.
11:50What is the difference between them and the government-owned SPKLU?
11:58Yes.
11:59To be top of mind, it has to be all-round.
12:03So, what I'm saying is,
12:05first, the technology has to be really good.
12:08Yes.
12:09So, if it's UI, UX, people are comfortable using it, it's safe.
12:13Right?
12:14Yes.
12:15That's number one.
12:16Second, when there is a problem, we quickly respond.
12:19So, the customer service, the network control.
12:22Yes.
12:23That's the second.
12:24So, people are definitely not disappointed.
12:26Yes.
12:27Then the third is also penetration.
12:29People see that the location is good.
12:31Yes.
12:32It's comfortable.
12:33Because it's a life cycle.
12:35Seven days a week, five days a week,
12:37I've been looking for a location.
12:38I want to go there.
12:39Charge.
12:40The location is good.
12:41It's comfortable to use.
12:42The location is good.
12:43The UI is good.
12:45The speed is good.
12:47There are not many problems.
12:48Yes.
12:49We just maintain it.
12:50Yes.
12:51That's what sets us apart from others.
12:53I see.
12:54Simple as that.
12:55Yes.
12:56So, it turns out that these days,
12:58the station is not only for charging,
13:01but it turns out that the consumer also has the effect of UI, UX.
13:06Right, sir?
13:07Definitely.
13:08So, it's their consideration too.
13:09So, if this is a tech company,
13:12the tech has to be number one.
13:14Yes.
13:15It will be covered by our service quality.
13:17I see.
13:18We have to manage that.
13:19Okay.
13:20But earlier, you talked about the franchise of Voltron itself
13:23is quite developed.
13:24What are the selection requirements?
13:27And earlier, you ensured that the quality of each hub or station is consistent.
13:32What is it like in each area of Voltron?
13:34It has to be consistent.
13:36Okay.
13:37If it's not developed, it won't work.
13:38Because developing is easy,
13:40maintaining is difficult.
13:42Yes.
13:43That's what we keep.
13:44We develop one thing, we review it.
13:46Then we have an analysis where we have to improve.
13:49Yes.
13:50And keep developing every single day.
13:51That's number one.
13:52The formula is simple.
13:53Okay.
13:54And we're never satisfied.
13:55Because tech has its obsolescence, right?
13:58So, we're never satisfied.
13:59We have to keep improving.
14:01Secondly, when it comes to franchising,
14:03a year ago, people didn't look for us.
14:08But it was proven by the market.
14:09Yes, it's true.
14:10Why?
14:11With or without survey,
14:12there's a Voltron document.
14:13Okay.
14:14So, people come to us who have money.
14:15Sir, I want to franchise.
14:17Yes, we welcome it.
14:18And we can be agile.
14:19We can custom model.
14:21We can be fit and proper with them.
14:25Finally, they said,
14:26okay, I have this much money.
14:27Okay, let's focus on profit first.
14:29Okay.
14:30Then they come to us for franchising.
14:31Yes.
14:32How far have you been, sir?
14:35Jakarta,
14:37Surabaya, Malang.
14:39Okay.
14:40How much is that, sir?
14:42Roughly?
14:43This year, we're looking at 50.
14:45But it's big, right?
14:46Yes.
14:47Okay.
14:4850 from how much, sir?
14:50From the previous 1,000,
14:52it can be 50.
14:5350, okay.
14:54Yes.
14:55Okay.
14:56If we look at the sales figures of IB
14:58that are getting more significant,
15:00and hopefully,
15:02it's equated with the increase
15:04of SPKLU itself,
15:06if we look at the moments
15:08when the momentum is high,
15:10for example, in Nataru yesterday,
15:12and what will come in the holiday season later,
15:14then from SPKLU,
15:16the data in Nataru yesterday
15:18increased by 500%
15:20in terms of consumption
15:22compared to the same period last year.
15:24Do you see that the industry's readiness
15:26is getting better, sir?
15:28It's getting better, yes.
15:30It's not really ready,
15:32but it's getting better.
15:33Okay.
15:34Because we've been learning
15:35for the past 1-2 years, right?
15:36Yes.
15:37So, there are several things
15:39that we can improve.
15:40It's getting better and better.
15:42Yes.
15:43And let's make a difference.
15:44Because it's a daily transaction, right?
15:46We see it more as a daily transaction.
15:48If we talk about ad-hoc,
15:50such as Eid,
15:52Nataru is only once in a lifetime.
15:54It means once in Nataru,
15:56once in Eid.
15:58Yes, once a week.
16:00It's a given
16:02where it picks up the revenue
16:04in that period.
16:06But we also help.
16:08For example, Voltone has installed
16:10in the Jasa Marga area in Java.
16:12It helps the government
16:14for the EV users
16:16in Java.
16:18We have it, the government has it.
16:20So, it's a given.
16:21But if we talk about daily consumption,
16:23it's not there yet.
16:24Yes.
16:25It will pick up during Eid.
16:27But we've prepared for that.
16:29Okay.
16:30What are the preparations for Eid?
16:32I think it will be ready.
16:34We will add more,
16:36especially the tolls.
16:38And we will expand the non-tolls
16:40to the city.
16:42Okay.
16:43So, it will be directed to the city
16:45where people have a choice.
16:47They can enter the toll or non-toll.
16:49If they run out of energy,
16:51they can look for the city to charge there.
16:53We have a lot of hubs there.
16:55I see.
16:56Is there a difference in treatment, sir?
16:58The SPKLU in the high season,
17:01is there a different treatment
17:03or is it the same?
17:05The energy is the same.
17:07Nothing specific.
17:09But we see it more and more.
17:11It's getting better.
17:13Automatically,
17:15we will see a hub
17:17that has charging, retail, amenities,
17:19coffee shop, cafe, Wi-Fi.
17:21So, if it's half an hour,
17:2340 minutes,
17:25they can hang out there.
17:27Okay. Interesting.
17:28We will go there.
17:29But do you see the development
17:31of EV users
17:33when traveling long distances?
17:35The growth is getting higher.
17:37And what are the factors
17:39that make it easier for people
17:41to use EV for long distances?
17:43It can be because they are used to it.
17:45Now, they are used to it.
17:47Okay.
17:48For me,
17:49education, literacy,
17:51it was hard for us.
17:53Even the last two years, it was hard.
17:55Now, for the past one year, it's easy.
17:57Because there is natural science.
17:59The more they use EV,
18:01they talk to themselves, ma'am.
18:03Okay.
18:04They comment to themselves.
18:05Once they are confused, they ask.
18:07The more they like it,
18:09they promote it.
18:10So, people buy EV again.
18:11I see. Word of mouth.
18:13So, it's warm.
18:14Now, it's more.
18:15And I think it will be copied.
18:17It will continue until 2000.
18:19Until beyond time.
18:21And it's easy for all of us.
18:24I see.
18:25Natural marketing.
18:27Okay.
18:28You shared earlier
18:30that user experience is very important.
18:32In every station,
18:34every hub, there is a coffee shop,
18:36a good place to stay,
18:37Wi-Fi, everything.
18:38But, one of the challenges
18:41in premium SPKAU stations
18:44like that,
18:45which is quite viral lately,
18:47is overstay.
18:48Overstay the vehicle at the charging station.
18:50What do you think about this, sir?
18:53This phenomenon is not only in us.
18:55It's the same in Western.
18:57So, I'm not saying we are worse than Western.
18:59There is also a city, ma'am.
19:01There is also Badung.
19:02But, it's regulated.
19:04But, it's more advanced there.
19:06We have regulated it.
19:08So, if they overstay,
19:10they don't remove the plug,
19:12we have exercised for the past 6 months.
19:16We will launch in February.
19:18We will call it IDOVI.
19:21Okay.
19:22In Western, we call it IDOVI.
19:24If we want to use penalty rate,
19:26penalty fee,
19:27it's quite strong for us.
19:29The name.
19:30Okay.
19:31So, we look at those countries
19:32where we give the name IDOVI
19:34when they charge, for example, for an hour.
19:36Right?
19:37Then, they don't remove it.
19:39It's damaging the land.
19:41It's damaging the people who want to use it.
19:43Yes.
19:44Those who want to use it, right?
19:45It's damaging us.
19:46Yes.
19:47Those who don't realize it.
19:50So, we develop the tech.
19:52We also talk to the regulator about this.
19:54So that,
19:56we give a penalty in rupiah
20:00in terms of time.
20:02Yes.
20:03So, if for example,
20:04they don't remove it for an hour,
20:07we give a penalty rate of 15 minutes.
20:09Okay.
20:10There will be a notification on their app.
20:13This is done.
20:14You remove it.
20:15Yes.
20:16There is a penalty rate of 15 minutes.
20:17If they don't remove it,
20:19there will be a penalty
20:20that we will calculate with 1,000 rupiah per minute.
20:23Is it already implemented, sir?
20:25We should have from last year.
20:27We have to have an audience first.
20:29We have to check everything first.
20:31So, we will make it effective in February.
20:34February.
20:35This month.
20:36This month.
20:37This month. Okay.
20:38So, there is no doubt.
20:39And now, there is a push from the market.
20:41From last year, June,
20:43the market has pushed us to do that.
20:46Yes.
20:47But we don't accept it immediately.
20:48We already know.
20:49We have to do something on that.
20:50Yes.
20:51But we also have to come.
20:52We have to assess first.
20:53Yes.
20:54From this side.
20:55Yes.
20:56We have to do it.
20:57So,
20:58it's been about 4 months.
21:00Since August.
21:02August.
21:03So, I think,
21:04we are fine now.
21:05So, we are going to execute by the following month
21:07for IDOFI.
21:09And we are the first.
21:10The first, right?
21:11The first.
21:12For private, sir?
21:13For private.
21:14We also have an audience with the government.
21:16They also have a lot of requests from us.
21:18So, we also balance them.
21:20Okay.
21:21You mentioned about the application.
21:24The integration between the services in the application.
21:27Digitally.
21:28And also,
21:29the experience in a physical way.
21:31What is Voltron like, sir?
21:33What is the development like?
21:37I always say this to my team.
21:39At the end,
21:40charging is charging.
21:41It's boring in the long run, right?
21:43Okay.
21:45For the first time, the gas station is full.
21:47It's boring in the long run, right?
21:49What are you doing?
21:50That's why they are doing bright.
21:52Café, Bridget, chair, spa.
21:54Right?
21:55We are doing the same.
21:58So, Voltron is beyond charging.
22:00We have Merchandise Management.
22:02We have Lifestyle.
22:03Lifestyle.
22:04Because we have the food.
22:05You give me a 500cc engine.
22:07I will install it.
22:08The tech is good.
22:10It's comfortable to use.
22:11What do you want to do if you need to charge?
22:13Beyond charging.
22:14Okay. Beyond charging.
22:15We have done it.
22:16I am on the go.
22:17Mr. Eka is managing it.
22:19And we are reviewing everything.
22:21Okay. Interesting.
22:22Beyond charging.
22:23Beyond charging.
22:24In 2025,
22:26what do you think will be the challenge
22:28for the EV industry?
22:30What do you think will be the challenge
22:32for the SPKLU industry?
22:34What will it be like?
22:36The government should be more serious.
22:38More disciplined, in other words.
22:42My parents told me back when I was from the Netherlands.
22:45So, it's like this.
22:47Don't be blind.
22:49Okay.
22:50Don't be blind.
22:51Grow well.
22:52Don't be blind.
22:53That's it.
22:54So, again,
22:55we are strong private players.
22:57We have the blood of Indonesia.
22:59We grow for ourselves.
23:01Respect on us.
23:02We develop for ourselves.
23:04We are proud.
23:05Right?
23:06So, don't open it up
23:08and don't select.
23:10The market will be too wild.
23:12Okay.
23:13That's what we have to see.
23:14If not,
23:15don't make the wild west.
23:17Yes.
23:18We are strong.
23:20Strengthen us.
23:21Grow big.
23:22We are proud to be Indonesian.
23:23Yes.
23:24So, the minister can at least
23:25manage that.
23:27And don't be too high-minded.
23:29There are still high-minded people.
23:32If we talk about the big business up there,
23:35we have read and seen it.
23:37We are the business
23:38that is just on the downstream.
23:40So, it's like the SPKLU.
23:42There are ministries A, B, C.
23:44We can't be a ministry A, B, C.
23:48The government for the past one year
23:50created the OSS.
23:51There is still a weakness
23:53of high-minded people there.
23:54Okay.
23:55So, we have an audience.
23:56Why do we have to go there?
23:58There is a problem.
23:59Just mediate it.
24:01Mediate it now.
24:03And then one year,
24:04it won't happen.
24:05So, it depends.
24:06Yes.
24:07All of these will raise the same issue.
24:09So, there are still high-minded people
24:11who need to be accelerated.
24:12They need to be simplified.
24:13We must comply.
24:15Right?
24:16Because on top of that,
24:17we must see the regulation.
24:19But number one,
24:20regulation is one thing.
24:21But what if there is no money?
24:22Okay.
24:23If we talk about financing,
24:24if we want to get an investor,
24:26they will ask,
24:27how about the permission?
24:30Then we open it.
24:31Why is it so easy?
24:32I said, it's them.
24:34You talk, you talk,
24:35but it won't happen.
24:36It's painful.
24:37That's the problem.
24:38Okay.
24:39Regulation.
24:40Don't be high-minded.
24:41And you have to sit together
24:43and evaluate it.
24:44Maybe the last question,
24:46Mr. Eli,
24:47can you share the tips?
24:48What needs to be done
24:49by the user
24:50to maintain the battery power
24:52on the electric car?
24:53Because maybe
24:54they already got the trend,
24:56already got the hype,
24:57already have the goods,
24:58already have the lifestyle.
25:00But maybe that's it.
25:01The tips for users,
25:03especially those who are
25:05traveling long distances,
25:06want to be comfortable using EV
25:08and SPKLU
25:11are already supported.
25:14Charging is getting better.
25:16There's AC, there's DC, right?
25:18So, the charging phase is seen.
25:20The first one,
25:21it has to be balanced
25:22with the charging route.
25:24Where do you want to go tomorrow?
25:25Don't hit and run.
25:27Yes.
25:28Then also,
25:29he can use AC,
25:30he can use DC.
25:31In the end,
25:33if charging,
25:34don't exceed 80%.
25:35Don't charge more than 80%.
25:37Don't reach 100%.
25:39Maintain at 80%.
25:40Especially the battery health
25:41is also good.
25:42It can last longer.
25:44And,
25:46the route is seen.
25:48I like to say this,
25:50if tomorrow you want to go out,
25:52you have the mindset,
25:54you have the mapping,
25:56you set three locations.
25:58I see, I have A, I have B.
26:00Oh, the AC is this much, this much.
26:02So, it's been set from the beginning.
26:04Okay.
26:05So,
26:06don't just have a smart EV,
26:08but also be a smart user.
26:10Okay.
26:11Mr. Eli, how optimistic are you
26:13towards renewable energy
26:15or target net zero emissions in 2060?
26:20How optimistic?
26:21Are we on the track?
26:22I think we are on the track.
26:24It depends on the perception.
26:26Because there are ups and downs.
26:27We are at the bottom, right?
26:28We fully support.
26:29And indeed,
26:30whatever percentage we have,
26:33we will definitely support
26:34together with the government.
26:36So, very much optimistic.
26:38Very much optimistic.
26:39Okay, thank you very much.
26:41The CEO of PT Axely Electric Indonesia
26:44or Mr. Abdul Rahman Eli,
26:46has shared interesting insights in Vincas.
26:49Hopefully, our discussion
26:50can also be an inspiring discussion
26:52for Vincas fans,
26:54wherever you are,
26:55we are excited.
26:56Support sustainability,
26:58renewable energy,
26:59and of course,
27:00we will feel the benefits together.
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