PTI Delegation Meets Maulana Fazlur Rehman: Kamran Murtaza Reveals Inside Story
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00:00It is very important to talk about two other issues.
00:03One is the government.
00:04Mr. Waqas has repeatedly said that the government has not shown seriousness.
00:06What is this?
00:07You are talking about the translation of the Mudakarati Committee.
00:10You have sent the police to arrest him.
00:11He has left the house number 18.
00:13Otherwise, he would have been arrested today.
00:14So, why did the government do all this?
00:16When it was showing so much interest in Mudakarati,
00:19then why did it do all this?
00:21And the second big development,
00:23we will ask the government's translation.
00:24And the second is that the same PTI,
00:26which has gone to Maulana's door 26 times for the 26th amendment,
00:29then some 26 people must have given 26 statements against Maulana Sahib.
00:33And to this extent,
00:34we do not consider him to be a member of the opposition.
00:36He is not a member of the opposition party.
00:37He does not have the temperament of this party.
00:38We have just heard all the statements.
00:39And his father does not trust him.
00:42So, how can we trust him?
00:43Today again, he went to Maulana Sahib.
00:45So, what is this?
00:46What does Maulana Sahib's party think about this?
00:48Maulana Sahib's party's senior Anumay is in this.
00:50So, from here,
00:51Maulana Sahib's party's senior Anumay,
00:53it can be said that any important development
00:56is in his knowledge, for sure.
00:59Senator Kamran Murtaza is with us from Maulana Sahib's party.
01:03And from here,
01:04Daniyal Chaudhary Sahib,
01:05Parliamentary Secretary for Information,
01:07which is also related to the PECA Act,
01:09we will talk to him about that too.
01:10And PMLN's, of course, senior Anumay is also there.
01:13So, I am very thankful to both of them.
01:15Kamran Sir, first of all,
01:16you tell us,
01:17when the PTI came today,
01:18what did it say?
01:19Earlier, when it came in the 26th amendment,
01:21it was clear,
01:22when they are coming,
01:23that they are saying,
01:24Sir, this is the government,
01:25you help us,
01:26and you don't vote in this.
01:28This was their agenda.
01:29And then what happened,
01:30that happened.
01:31We don't repeat it now.
01:32When they came today,
01:33what were they saying?
01:34What do they want?
01:35They had kept three things.
01:36One, they said,
01:37that we have come to you,
01:38the negotiations that have taken place
01:40between us and the government.
01:41Yes.
01:42On that,
01:43we have to tell you,
01:44we wanted to tell you,
01:46what happened between us and them.
01:48So, they trusted Maulana Sahib.
01:50Okay.
01:51Second, they said,
01:52that in the election commission,
01:54of the chief election commissioners,
01:56and the two members,
01:58there will be elections.
02:00In that,
02:01we want to meet you,
02:03and together,
02:04we will choose a name,
02:06who can get a fair election in the future.
02:09And third,
02:10we should be able to walk together,
02:12on the same path,
02:13according to which,
02:14we should follow the constitution,
02:18and for that,
02:19we should struggle.
02:21In the true sense of the constitution,
02:24we should be brave,
02:25and the rest,
02:26we should follow the law.
02:28So, these three things,
02:29they had written,
02:31and Maulana Sahib had a very long meeting.
02:34I was also present there.
02:36Were there any complaints,
02:38or any previous statements?
02:40A committee has been formed in that.
02:42At the moment,
02:43Asad Qaisar Sahib is there,
02:44and I am there.
02:45And,
02:46that committee,
02:47where there is an immediate problem,
02:49so,
02:50we will talk to each other first,
02:52and then,
02:53we will decide on the leadership.
02:55If there is a problem,
02:56then,
02:57he will lead his leadership,
02:58and I will lead mine.
02:59So,
03:00these three things,
03:01they told you in detail.
03:02What was your reaction to this?
03:04They trusted us.
03:07The conversation between them,
03:09between the two parties,
03:10they told us.
03:11We are grateful to them.
03:12We thanked them,
03:13that they considered us worthy,
03:15and told us.
03:16Obviously,
03:17we were not obliged to tell them.
03:20Right.
03:21Secondly,
03:22regarding the election commission,
03:23regarding the election commission,
03:25Maulana Sahib told them that,
03:26actually,
03:27in the election commission,
03:28whoever you elect,
03:29they are deciding.
03:31As far as the actual clarification of the system is concerned,
03:34that will not happen.
03:35Until then,
03:36the matters will remain the same.
03:38We gave them an example,
03:39of Fakhr-ud-Din Ibrahim Sahib.
03:40He was a very honest man.
03:41He was very extraordinary.
03:43But,
03:44in the election,
03:45he failed.
03:46He failed.
03:47Maulana Sahib,
03:48I am sorry to interrupt you.
03:49I remember,
03:50Khan Sahib's statement was on record,
03:51that the government of Noon League,
03:52did only one good thing,
03:53in its entire tenure.
03:54That is,
03:55Fakhr-ud-Din Ibrahim was appointed
03:56as the Chief Election Commissioner.
03:57And, in that election,
03:58there was no one more rebellious than Khan Sahib.
04:00Yes.
04:01But, he failed.
04:02Yes, yes.
04:03The reason for that failure,
04:04is that,
04:05we keep removing water from the well.
04:08But,
04:09the reason for removing the water,
04:10is not removed.
04:11Right.
04:12That is what Maulana Sahib told them.
04:14And, the third thing,
04:15what did Maulana Sahib reply,
04:16to the statement,
04:17that you are with us,
04:18for the benefit of the constitution.
04:19Yes,
04:20Maulana Sahib,
04:21is not the only one,
04:22who can make such a decision.
04:23The party members,
04:24will have to trust him.
04:25He said,
04:26that,
04:27the situation is,
04:28that,
04:29as far as we have come,
04:30there are some issues,
04:31due to which,
04:32there is a feeling of distance.
04:33So,
04:34these two people,
04:35Asad Qaisar Sahib,
04:36and I,
04:37should try to,
04:38divide the distance.
04:39Then,
04:40we will see,
04:41what will happen,
04:42in the elections.
04:43But,
04:44we will see.
04:45We will keep the matter,
04:46in front of our institutions.
04:47And,
04:48I think,
04:49we,
04:50have succeeded,
04:51in building the constitution.
04:52Okay,
04:53Kamran,
04:54tell us one more thing.
04:55We feel,
04:56that,
04:57now,
04:58correct me,
04:59if I am wrong.
05:00That,
05:01JUIF,
05:02is clear about this,
05:03that,
05:04issue to issue,
05:05PTI,
05:06or opposition parties,
05:07can be supported.
05:08But,
05:09on the street,
05:10a street,
05:11or a state,
05:12should not be shared,
05:13with a long march,
05:14with Maulana Sahib's workers,
05:15and PTI.
05:16This cannot happen.
05:17Is this,
05:18your position,
05:19even today?
05:20My position,
05:21in your program,
05:22I had said,
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