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"Agar Hukumat Giri tou kuch aur Bhi Giray ga aur pata Nahi Kia Kiya Giray ga..." Muneeb Farooq's Analysis
"Agar Hukumat Giri tou kuch aur Bhi Giray ga aur pata Nahi Kia Kiya Giray ga..." Muneeb Farooq's Analysis
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00:30backdoor, backroom negotiations, because there is a logical, plausible thing in that.
00:35Look, People's Party's power base is Sindh, that is not PTI's.
00:40PMLN's power base is Punjab.
00:42Mr. Khan does not want to talk about Punjab at any cost, nor does he want to compromise.
00:47There is no quid pro quo.
00:49So, if in the centre, there was a scenario being discussed here, that if the People's Party comes to the centre,
00:55even though there are statements that there is no difference between the People's Party and PMLN,
01:00but even when you talk to the top leaders of PTI off the record,
01:04their attitude towards PTI is very different.
01:07But that softness or that shyness is not at all for PMLN,
01:12their attitude towards PPP is different.
01:14But this will happen with you when the establishment gives way to PTI,
01:18so does that flexibility give you any chance?
01:21Exactly, what you were talking about, you first talked about why elections are being discussed in December,
01:28but what is the timetable, we are at the end of July,
01:32why is October important, in which Khawaja Asif Sahib's statement was also made,
01:36in October, Faiz Issa Sahib will leave, Justice Mansoor Ali Shahab Sahib will come as the new Chief Justice,
01:42PTI thinks that there will be a friendlier Supreme Court,
01:46or at least the Chief Justice will not be hostile, even if you do not say fully friendly.
01:50And if your tribunals allow you to work,
01:54then in August, September, October, you will see a lot of decisions being made in these three months.
02:00And if in Punjab, due to these things,
02:05see everyone knows that the most popular person in Lahore is not Aunty Chaudhary,
02:10but the most votes have been taken by Aunty Chaudhary.
02:14There are a lot of question marks, if Mian Sahib's seat, if Nawaz Sharif Sahib's seat goes up and down,
02:20then what is the symbolic destruction, you see, there are seats for Maryam, there are seats for everyone.
02:24PTI thinks that if these tribunals work,
02:28and if 8-10 big decisions come, then a total political equation will come.
02:32This is why they think that there will be a game in the summer.
02:34Okay, Muneeb Sahib, since you are a politician,
02:37and then you also keep an eye on law, you are a student of law,
02:41then you will understand, you are saying that at this time,
02:44even if some decisions come, don't get them implemented.
02:47Now, the scenario that Malik Sahib is painting, if this happens,
02:50that today the tribunal dropped one wicket, tomorrow it dropped another,
02:53it dropped so much that it affected the number game,
02:55then how will you stop these decisions from being implemented?
02:58How exactly?
02:59Because he said that Waseem Badami was wrongly elected, Muneeb Farooq is the MLA of this area.
03:02Waseem, one thing, one thing.
03:04I will also ask Muneeb Sahib a question.
03:06Add one thing.
03:08In Islamabad, where there are three MLA seats,
03:12it will have a very dangerous impact.
03:14You will remember, in one circle, Nawaz Khokhar Sahib was also a candidate.
03:20He is saying that he will also bring it, sir.
03:21And he has lost.
03:22Yes, yes.
03:23His form 45 and PTI candidate's form 45 is identical.
03:27If work starts from here too, then Punjab…
03:30What will happen if there is a line?
03:31Muneeb Sahib, how will those decisions be stopped from being implemented?
03:34Will there be an extra constitution?
03:36What will happen then?
03:37Look, normally, Mr. Badami,
03:41constitutional breakdown or meltdown,
03:44it doesn't happen that you and I start hitting each other on the head.
03:48What happens basically is that
03:49the work that is being done under a constitutional structure,
03:52there has to be a process of making decisions,
03:54a lot has to be done, that is not happening.
03:56Or some things have to be done by the book,
03:58in normal circumstances, that is not happening.
04:00Now the problem is,
04:01the way this system has been arranged,
04:04it is obvious that the ones that are attached to it,
04:10it is a special type of tape,
04:14which I generally call a tape.
04:17So it is obvious that when the system is attached in this way,
04:22and arranged in this way,
04:23then it is obvious that the way that system is made,
04:28the way that it is run,
04:29it goes according to that.
04:30Then it is obvious,
04:31when the stakes are so involved,
04:33keep in mind that the government going,
04:36as you said,
04:38as Mr. Malik said,
04:40if the decisions of the criminals come,
04:41Islamabad has a symbolic value,
04:44three MNCs,
04:45if two of them fly,
04:46if one of them flies,
04:47it would have a lot of impact,
04:49it will have a lot of impact.
04:50But the question is,
04:51it is not that the government falls,
04:53the PDM falls,
04:54or something happens,
04:55the issue is that,
04:56the fight that is going on right now,
04:59the establishment versus Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf,
05:02this fight is institutional pride versus Tariq-e-Insaf.
05:06Institutional respect versus Tariq-e-Insaf.
05:11Institutional integrity or its power versus Tariq-e-Insaf.
05:16Now the problem is,
05:17it is not that a stand-alone government is standing here,
05:20if it falls, it falls.
05:22Somebody with shaggy shoulders says,
05:24if it falls, it falls.
05:25Someone says, okay, it won't fall.
05:27It is not like that.
05:28The linchpin of this system is the power of Pakistan.
05:31So it will not fall like this.
05:33If it falls,
05:34it will fall with understanding or settlement.
05:37And the way,
05:38as I tell you,
05:39the project was Imran Khan,
05:40Imran Khan was brought,
05:41the establishment suppressed him,
05:43in 2018,
05:44the dinner that was mine and yours,
05:46one night before the election,
05:48when we were sitting,
05:49in which Irshad Bhatti was also present.
05:51In which Irshad Bhatti was also present.
05:53With bad luck.
05:54With bad luck.
05:56But the thing is,
05:57then you will remember,
05:59that the next one suppressed him,
06:01and everything happened.
06:02Now, obviously,
06:03it was the 2018 election,
06:05in 2024,
06:06there was a lot of controversy.
06:08But the question remains,
06:09that the ownership of the whole system,
06:11Mr. Badami,
06:12who has it?
06:13In my case,
06:14at least,
06:15all three of my respected colleagues,
06:17are senior to me.
06:18So, tell me,
06:19whose ownership is it?
06:20Is it with a political party?
06:22Yes, of course,
06:23it is with them.
06:24So, tell me,
06:25listen to me,
06:26listen to me,
06:27do you think,
06:28that you must be sitting somewhere,
06:30and they will say,
06:31oh, the government has fallen.
06:32They will say,
06:33oh, I am very sorry,
06:34let's read the Fatiha.
06:35This does not happen, brother.
06:36If it falls,
06:37if it falls,
06:38then something else will also fall.
06:40And then I don't know,
06:41what all will fall.
06:42And first of all,
06:43it will not fall.