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00:00Who is the government committee going to announce this discussion?
00:05Because they are repeatedly saying that all the parties will be on board.
00:08If they are talking about the announcement of the committee,
00:11if the speaker is talking about the contact,
00:13then it means that somewhere the desire for engagement is on the other side as well.
00:17Don't you think this is a serious desire?
00:19This is a political face-saving.
00:23So far we have seen that this is not just a political statement.
00:31They themselves know that their government is not a legitimate government.
00:36And they are not serious about politics.
00:41Because for that they need two or three basic conference building measures.
00:46From which they have run away.
00:48One is that the decision of the Supreme Court on 12th July,
00:52which is still in the field,
00:54which is the decision of the Supreme Court,
00:58in which the PTI has been given reserves in the Subai and National Assembly.
01:05But the amendment is still going to take about six months.
01:09The amendment is not being done on this.
01:11In my opinion, if the government is really serious,
01:15then they should first implement the decision of the Supreme Court.
01:19This is what the speaker has repeatedly written to the Election Commission,
01:24that you should not act on the decision of the Supreme Court.
01:27This is a different thing that I understand legally.
01:30That man has broken the law,
01:32and tomorrow there should be a case of Article 6,
01:34which says, sitting in the office of the speaker,
01:38that you ignore the decision of the Supreme Court.
01:42And a legal institution should stop him from acting on the decision of the Supreme Court.
01:52What can you expect from this person,
01:55who does not even understand that it is his duty to act on the decision of the Supreme Court.
02:01He was stopped because he wanted to amend Article 26.
02:07And the way he has done it,
02:09that is also in front of the whole nation.
02:11So, Mr. Hamid Khan, what is the purpose of the discussion committee that you are making?
02:18Because you did not act on the decisions,
02:20nor did you see the seriousness from them.
02:23And the government cannot give you what you want.
02:26You cannot give the government what you want,
02:28or you cannot give the power to the government.
02:30So, what is the purpose of the discussion?
02:32Look, this is a discussion from their side.
02:36However, these statements were coming from the present government.
02:42This is just a bluff call.
02:45PTI said, okay, do the discussion.
02:48They have been saying for so many months that you do not need to do the demonstration, etc.
02:54You do the discussion.
02:56These statements were coming from the government,
02:58from their various ministers, various representatives.
03:01Now, when they have actually been offered this,
03:04they are running away.
03:06They are trying to get away from their offer in every possible way.
03:11There is another debate after the formation of these committees.
03:14That is, who will take the initiative?
03:16Who will approach whom first?
03:18Who should approach the other first for the demonstration?
03:21Tariq-e-Insaf says, the government should do it.
03:23The government says, the Tariq-e-Insaf committee should do it.
03:25Whose initiative should this be?
03:29This proposal has always been coming from the government,
03:32for many months,
03:34that you should adopt the method of demonstration
03:36and not the method of protest.
03:39Their ministers repeatedly say the same thing.
03:42Instead of protest, you should adopt the method of demonstration.
03:46Okay, we have said that you should adopt the method of demonstration.
03:49So, they have taken the initiative.
03:51Now, they should take the initiative ahead.
03:54That yes, how will we do the demonstration?
03:56What will you do first for confidence building?
04:00So that we pay attention to the fact that
04:03yes, this time the government is serious about the demonstration.
04:08Otherwise, until no basic confidence building measures are taken,
04:13there is no point in talking in the air.
04:16I said this because, according to me,
04:19the first confidence building measure
04:23is the decision of the Supreme Court on 12th July.
04:28Right.
04:29If the government takes the first decision,
04:32then their political survival will be in danger.
04:34Right now, your first two demands are
04:36that a judicial commission should be made
04:38and the prisoners should be released.
04:40But the government has not yet given a positive or a strong answer on both.
04:45So, it seems that all your conditions will not be met.
04:49What can be the bare minimum?
04:51If you want to see the intent of the demonstration,
04:55apart from these two,
04:56can there be a bare minimum?
04:57Or will you consider it a success only when these two demands are met?
05:04Look, these two demands are very legitimate.
05:09The case of 9th May and the case of 8th February,
05:13the judicial commission should be appointed in both these cases.
05:16And the judicial commission should do an inquiry and give a report.
05:20This is a fundamental demand.
05:24But I say that when the judicial commission is appointed,
05:28an inquiry should be conducted.
05:30That is a matter of course.
05:31But the decision of 12th July has already been made.
05:34No one has suspended it.
05:36Only the Supreme Court can suspend it.
05:38Now, it is the decision of the Supreme Court.
05:40We should not make any amendments to it.
05:42I think that this is the biggest violation of the constitution.
05:45So, if you really want goodwill to be created,
05:49the seats that are not yours,
05:53even you say that they are ours,
05:55then you should at least get the PTI,
05:57the seats of their national and provincial assemblies,
06:00which have been given by the Supreme Court,
06:02to implement them.
06:05Then it will be understood that their government will not go from there.
06:09Neither in the province nor in the centre.
06:11But despite this, they are showing so much reluctance and resistance in this matter.
06:16They are doing it unilaterally.
06:18So, what can we expect from them?