Jimmy Butler trade rumors continue to roll in. Jimmy Butler got into a verbal altercation with someone at this Miami Padel event. Could be something, Could be nothing... Tyler Herro posts a collage on IG and tags Bam Adebayo to keep going... Are they tired of Jimmy Butler?
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00:00Keys says the sun's heat and bowls talking about trading Jimmy Butler and Bradley Beal
00:04and Zach Levine. Then also Memphis is talking with the heat for a Jimmy Butler trade.
00:10Something is going on. I don't know what's going on. Like, I think this is the thing
00:14that was interesting. There was another report, uh, from Mark, Mark Spears on NBA today on
00:21Friday, where again, he said, Jimmy Butler will go anywhere except for Memphis, which
00:27is like, what? What? All right. Because I don't think Memphis is Memphis is looking
00:33at this as a rental. Like that's what they want. So they, they, they want to bring Jimmy
00:38Butler in and be like, Hey, can we get the best out of playoff Jimmy? And then see what
00:42the hell happens with it. Here's the, here's the crazy thing about all of this. If Jimmy
00:49is all about money, yep. The tactics that he's going about to get his money could make
00:56him earn even less money. True. So if the heat say you not controlling this, we're going
01:04to trade you to Memphis, right? And then he goes there and says, I'm not going to play
01:11or I'm not going to give, you know, the effort. Then what is he going to do opt in the following
01:18year? I guess. And do what? I guess like, I don't know if this, this isn't, or, or then
01:30if he decides, you know, I'm just going to dog it the rest of the year in Memphis. And
01:38then does he think the sons are going to give him a max next year after what he's shown
01:43these this last year? Well, they can't because they're, they're already mad. Like they have
01:46to trade for him to pay. Right. And that's why like, this is like the heater in the spot
01:52right now where I think they are trying to do, you know, the thing to get Jimmy to Phoenix.
02:01But the problem is it's complex because you have a more difficult, you have a party in
02:07Bradley Beal who doesn't have to go anywhere. He doesn't want to, it's he legitimately has
02:12a no trade clause. And so like, you're trying to find all these scenarios out there. Where
02:17would he go? Where'd he go to the books? Would he go to the bowls? Where would he go? And
02:20it's like, then you have to decide, all right, well, what are they going to do? Like, how
02:23do you do it right by them? Cause they got to take on Bradley Beal, you know? So if the
02:30next, if the next spot is, Hey man, they're ready to move on.
02:36Phoenix is done with this. Like they, they, they, you know, Phoenix has a big week coming
02:39up. I think they're taking on the wolves and Clippers who are both above them in the
02:42standings. Memphis is, what are they? They're two or three in the West. Are they two? I
02:49think they're three. Well, let me check. I think they're three, but only about like a
02:51game. Yeah. Um, it's, it's kind of like the Dame thing where it's like, Hey, I don't think
02:57you can really get mad at the heat by doing wrong by you. If they trade you the number
03:01three team in the West, Jimmy, like, yeah, maybe it's not exactly getting what you want,
03:06but is it the best way to, for Jimmy to get what he wants?
03:08I think this is where all the frustration lies with everybody is you basically decide
03:14to unplug once you found a sucker that wanted to pay you your money immediately, right?
03:19It's like once that happened and he realized there was a franchise out there willing to
03:22give him the money, he, he detached from everybody else now. Okay. Once that team's out of the
03:29pot, you do have to end up going to earn the extension. And the best way to do that for
03:34him is to succeed in the playoffs. And you can't tell me that there's not a better basketball
03:40scenario out there there for him. Then teaming up with Morant, Bain, Jaron Jackson, Jr. Like
03:46you're not saying that you're doing wrong by you putting you in that situation. And
03:52so if you go and ball out and bring them to the Western conference finals, yes, somebody
03:55probably will pay you a lot of money next year, but it's like, you don't even want to
04:00take that chance. So I don't know. It's, it's one of these things where I see that
04:06the Memphis thing seems to me from a basketball standpoint to make all the sense in the world,
04:11other than for him, where it's like, yeah, but I want, I want the, I want the guarantee
04:15on the dough. So I don't know. Well, here's, I don't know. I don't know. Here's what a
04:22lot of people have had to do in this situation. They've had to come to the realization of
04:27what the situation is and move on. Okay. The heat are getting to that point to where,
04:34look, we've tried to, to, to get other teams involved in getting you to, to, to Phoenix.
04:42We can't keep putting you on the floor. So we're getting to the point where we'll just
04:47trade you anywhere and then you deal with it. Right. Jimmy is not coming off of what
04:54he's saying, but in the end, much like the Dame situation, you have to deal with it and
05:05you have to be a professional. And, and it's not for lack of trying to do the thing that,
05:12but there's too many moving parts, including a part that won't move. So, right. So you
05:20can't, if Jimmy's upset that he can't get what he wants, you have to come up to the
05:29realization. It's not the heat is what you are asking is damn near impossible. So here's
05:39the alternative. And here's something that maybe everybody won't be happy, but it'll
05:46get done. And then you can go and play basketball and, and, and, and build your own future based
05:53on how you play basketball, which to your point earlier, I think that might be the bigger
06:01question that Jimmy maybe wants money because he knows if he has to go out and play, he
06:11ain't quite that guy no more.
06:14And then there's this, the drama with the other players. Marcus, can you hit our could
06:17be something could be nothing music? Yeah. Because I saw something boots in the gram.
06:25One guy's having fun on the end of that bitch with this could be nothing. Why would they
06:30do that? What's going on in Utah? It could be something. It could be nothing. What is
06:36the meaning of it? What's what is the object of this? Why would they do that? Now this
06:42is not Kevin love hijinks, which I mean, he's hilarious. It's true. He's doing great.
06:48I mean, he's on an all time run, but Tyler hero, Oh, he posted a collage of photos, if
06:58you will, with the caption, which says, just keep going with him handshake and bam. Oh,
07:12and then bam repost the photo. Oh, the post. And it got me thinking, they just sick of
07:22it, dude. Oh, like at what point are you going to spoil Pat and be like, Hey dude,
07:30sick of it. Like how many times do they have to sit here and go through this charade of
07:36Jimmy Butler playing at a coast level pace? And they're just like, who's he in the lot
07:43of today? Does he know the lines you're going to try? Is he not going to try? What's he
07:46going to do? At what point do you just get sick of it, dude? Wow. So it could be something.
07:54It could just be a nice picture. I don't know, but it made me think those two as the faces
08:01of the team right now with this whole thing, having to be a swinging back and forth, they
08:06got it. They got two big match-ups coming up this week with the magic and the calves
08:09in town. You would like a little bit of clarity. You would think one would think one would
08:14think, and I don't think we can do this whole thing of like, Oh, well he's there, but you
08:19put them on the end of the bench. You just sit them there. It feels like a disaster.
08:24Hey, I'm sorry. I got sidetracked. Sure. Stolen McRib. Sherlock Hams is on the scene. Did
08:40you guys, uh, I'm sorry, I'm trying to get the timeline correct. You guys discussed this
08:45whole tarmac incidents. I don't know what to make of it because there was a, there was
08:51a rumor that was thrown out there that's been shot down, but Channing Frye, who hosts a
08:57podcast with Richard Jefferson, I think Kendrick Perkins is on that show too, but he had claimed
09:02that the heat were waiting for hours for Jimmy Butler before heading off to Milwaukee. Now
09:10there's been reports of Ivan Skolnick shoot it down. The agent who Bernie Lee, like he
09:14can't take anything he tweets seriously anymore. They can't try. I'm sorry, Bernie. We can't
09:18trust you. You know, you, you pulled the shams. Okie doke with us. It's true. We can't believe
09:22you anymore. Your credibility shot. Yep. But it has been shot down that the heat weren't
09:28waiting for hours upon hours with where's Jimmy. Yeah. Uh, I don't think they knew that,
09:35but they were probably waiting for a little bit, but it was weird cause he did it right.
09:39Then he flew up to New York for a day because he had an appearance in New York, then flew back,
09:44does this whole thing at the fake pickleball. I don't know what the hell that is. Paddle
09:48fancy pickleball. So he was at the fancy pickleball tournament and he was telling the reporters,
09:54I love Miami. Then there was something where he got into like an incident where he got into a
09:59shouting match with somebody who was, I'm sure said something rude. And you see Jimmy Butler
10:05to show up, Jimmy. Hey, Jimmy, have you found your joy at fancy pickleballs?
10:17And Jimmy took offense to it. And so he like went up to this individual,
10:21um, you know, and I don't like people bothering people in public, but I do worry that if you have
10:27him just sitting at the end of the bench, you leave the window open for jackassery where somebody
10:33could be a jackass. And this is kind of just sitting there, which again brings me to my whole
10:37point of, I don't see the point in having him in the building. Just pay him to go away until you
10:41figure it out. I don't see the point of it. I don't see the point. I understand that, but that's
10:50a lot of money. What am I getting out of the way? You know, damned if I do, damned if I don't.
10:57Right. That's why, that's why he going to be a Memphis grizzly.
11:03Yeah, they're lucky. I mean, he's lucky. And here's the other thing I'd trade them to the
11:08wizard or not. I put the reason why Jimmy is a Memphis grizzly and not a Phoenix sun
11:17is because of Jimmy, because if Jimmy had been balling, there'd be more teams
11:23and he'd have more options. Yeah. Right. But because he's doing it this way,
11:33there's a lot of teams like, I don't want that drama. I don't, I don't want that smoke. Right.
11:39So I, like I get it. Like I understand both sides. I'm never going to be against a guy
11:49getting his money, but I am going to have a problem with a guy earning his money.
11:57Right. Is there's a difference in you signing a big contract and you playing hard and you just
12:03losing it a little bit. Right. We can accept that, but we can't accept a guy saying, I'm not going
12:13to play for you this year. Cause you want me in 2027. Did the, he reward him for taking him deep
12:21in the playoff tubs. Well, actually F and man. Yes, they did. Yes, they did. He's on a max
12:26extension right now. Right. And now he wants an extra year where you didn't play a lot of games
12:32and he got bounced, which by the way, I was for paying Jimmy because I didn't want this to be
12:37here, but they have, like, it felt like they've never extended Jimmy Butler. Jimmy Butler has
12:42been a lot of money with the Miami heat. Here's the problem. You weren't listening or you didn't
12:47hear when Pat Riley talked about the amount of games that people were playing. I think he was
12:59more serious than people thought. Okay. And that was a big sticking point with him because again,
13:07all those years you were in the play in, right. You were talking about if Jimmy had played five
13:14or 10 more games, we wouldn't even be in this situation. And we talked about three or four
13:19games away from being a four seat or something like that. So let's start there. Now with Tyler,
13:24it was different, but you see what Tyler did this year. You see his response to that.
13:30Your response to those comments, play games, ball out. Right. And that's what Jimmy said he was
13:36going to do. So we all thought, we all thought everything was going to be fine until it wasn't.
13:45Now, if I'm Pat Riley and I'm Mickey Harrison, that hurts the most. Okay. That's the part of it.
13:57Now, here's what I will say in fairness to the party,
14:04all parties involved. We don't know how far back these conversations went.
14:13Was it a conversation? I want to be out in the summer and then it worked this way up until the
14:19season. Right. Or was it, did it just start at the start of the season? So maybe a different
14:33place because this conversation would be going on for three or four months. I think my guess of it
14:38is, and my read of it is, is that sure. There was hostility in the summer on both sides, especially
14:45between him and Pat because of the, of the no extension. And then of course the comments
14:51from Pat, I think there maybe was, there were teams that were inquiring about him, Philly,
14:57New York. And then he was like, you know what? And the heater like, nah, not doing it. And they're
15:04like, you're on a contract. We still want you to play. We want to see what this team could be.
15:09You know, the heat, I mean, they've had a very big belief in the score,
15:12you know, with BAM and with Tyler and all that, Hey, can Jimmy Butler go and actually play
15:17basketball? And we'll see how it all, we'll see where it all rolls out. And there was a certain
15:21point sometime in the middle of December where it was not as engaged anymore. Right. It wasn't.