Un conflicto entre dos facciones de la UOCRA en Berazategui, Argentina, ha dejado más de 15 heridos, cinco de ellos graves. El enfrentamiento se produjo durante un evento para la asunción de un nuevo delegado regional. La tensión se incrementó cuando una agrupación comenzó a publicitar en redes sociales un sorteo para más de 100 puestos de trabajo. Se reportan agresiones con palos y fierros y se confirma que el sorteo era real, una práctica común cuando hay muchas personas sin empleo y una obra disponible.
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00:00to this, which is the image of the morning, with an urgent, what we counted, Gonzalo de la UOCRA in Berazategui, with a shocking image.
00:11The truth is that yes, as we counted at the beginning of the program, here we can see a confrontation between two factions of the UOCRA.
00:19There was a group of production, as even in the previous one they were, let's say, fighting each other.
00:28The trigger was that when an assumption was going to be made in this event, one of the new regional delegates from that area,
00:44in the Berazategui area, Platanos actually, from the other group, from those who sought to dispute power,
00:53they began to advertise on social networks a call to draw more than 100 jobs, precisely at that same event.
01:03I insist, they had nothing to do, those who made the call, with what they were, let's say, assuming the position.
01:11From those who sought to assume the position, they said, this is a lie, this is a lie, this is a lie, it is not like that, it is not like that, it is not like that.
01:18And well, it ended up being a great cocktail of cultivation, a broth of cultivation, for example, what we are seeing now, right?
01:23Look at a man with a gun, on a motorcycle, identified, shooting, and you have to see, well, when the police finish doing the relevant investigations,
01:35the number of injured, because at least they tell me there are at least five.
01:39Five injured.
01:40Five injured at least.
01:41Because he points like someone, right?
01:43You have to see the magnitude of the injuries, right?
01:45Exactly.
01:46Because there are some versions found of what could have happened there, and no one is sure that this has diminished,
01:53because the internal and this type of confrontation between factions, with unions, with unions, always, well.
02:02Do you remember what it was like when they added the body of Perón?
02:05No, when they transferred the body of Perón to San Vicente, right?
02:07Exactly what it was, it was a confrontation between the UOCRA and at that time, if I remember correctly, Camioneros.
02:13Here they point to police sources that at least have a record of 50 shots.
02:18What a horror.
02:19In general, not just this person who was here, who was ...
02:2350 shots.
02:25Yes.
02:26All that in a restricted area, it is a neighborhood.
02:27And join me, Gonza, we are going to greet Marcelo, who is a worker who was there, who is a witness to everything he saw.
02:34Marcelo Facundo Pastor in A24, how are you?
02:37Hi Facundo, how are you?
02:39Fine.
02:40How's everything going out there?
02:41Fine, thanks for your testimony.
02:42Tell me what you saw, Marcelo.
02:45It is not what you saw, but that I was there, present.
02:48I am part of all this.
02:51How to explain it?
02:52From the working side, let's say.
02:55I work in the place where the conflict was generated.
02:58Let's start at the beginning.
03:00What is this place?
03:02It is a work that started a while ago.
03:06It is a work that I understand is a public work.
03:12Where a long time ago, with this Gremial section, we are carrying out this work, this project of 128 homes.
03:21So nothing, on our side, where we are there in this work, it is to enable other works.
03:29And these people want to come and get us, let's say, the place where we earn it with a lot of effort and sacrifice for thousands of people who are without work.
03:38Well, it is very good as you are explaining it, Marcelo.
03:41That is, we are talking about a municipal, provincial work.
03:46Provincial.
03:47Provincial.
03:48That is, the province of Buenos Aires carries out a plan of 128 homes in Plátano, Berazategui.
03:53And next to it is added another work, also provincial.
03:58We understand that also, yes.
04:01Good. And why could this dispute be given?
04:05I mean, what is the latent threat that there is?
04:08No, what happens is that, unlike other sections, what is the Barela-Berazategui-Quilmes section,
04:17what is the UOCRA is intervening, it is separating sections, factions, sorry.
04:26Of course, that is, what it is, the UOCRA Berazategui has an internal.
04:32UOCRA Berazategui, so that you understand, I, for example, I am from, I am not from Berazategui,
04:38I am still working in Berazategui, that is not the problem.
04:41The problem is not where you are from.
04:43The problem is that it is intervened, it is separated into two parts,
04:47and we, who are what we achieved, this part, where we are working,
04:52is the other part that is looking for its own works, like us,
04:56is wanting to occupy a work, where we are working,
04:59and we are fighting so as not to lose those jobs.
05:03Of course, of course, of course.
05:04And let's see, and they presented themselves there, with what, doing what?
05:09To come, through violence, with a revolver, with sticks, with everything they have,
05:17to face us, so as not to allow them to give the jobs that were going to be given today,
05:23for the people who are unemployed, in this work that is about to be inaugurated.
05:27Of course, that is, the work of the 128 homes in which it is about to be inaugurated, or the other?
05:32No, the one next door, the work of the 128 homes is already closed, inaugurated,
05:36and we are already working there.
05:38Ah, good, good, good.
05:39In other words, if a work was being inaugurated next door,
05:42you wanted to occupy the jobs, because you have already worked in the area,
05:47and another faction of the UOCRA appeared to try to keep the jobs, and that's where this comes out.
05:53Exactly, Facundo.
05:55And who shoots? Who is this orange man who shoots?
05:59No, I wouldn't know how to tell you, because, in reality, there, for you to have an idea,
06:04it is a crowd of people from all sides, and several representatives of the UOCRA.
06:09As I tell you, what is the South Zone is divided into two sections,
06:14so it is impossible to determine who is from whom.
06:16Okay, but there are two sections.
06:17So, what section is this red man that we see on top of a motorcycle, shooting, and also ...
06:22Of course, who do they answer politically, Marcelo?
06:25Because, let's say, there are two.
06:26Which one? You or the other?
06:28Of course, what I can tell you from my side as a worker, because I work in the place.
06:34For example, when all this was happening, the company didn't have us inside,
06:39so that we wouldn't go out, so that nothing would happen to us,
06:42because we were on the workers' side inside.
06:45Of course.
06:47We were in the face of the conflict, but without intervening,
06:50because we were fulfilling our role as workers.
06:54Marcelo.
06:57Marcelo, I'll ask you a question, Gonzalo Prado greets you.
07:00The police talk about more than 50 shots.
07:05Did you hear detonations?
07:10More?
07:24Of course.
07:26What is the balance, Marcelo, so far? How many injured?
07:29Is there someone who is seriously injured?
07:4415 injured with different severity.
07:46Marcelo, did they shoot from one side or was it a shooting?
07:53Let's see, this is...
07:56You start to think that a group of people is going to look for work,
08:01and out of nowhere 200 or 300 people appear,
08:05as if to tell you, not to tell you a number that is not given,
08:09and they come to attack you.
08:11And they had to respond, because there was no choice,
08:15because they came and shot us from all sides.
08:18Good.
08:19They tried to enter...
08:21I want to listen again to some of the videos with ambient sound
08:24to hear the shots, because it is shocking how it is heard
08:28the moment when this man, who I think is quite identified...
08:32Yes, the authorities, I imagine,
08:35will quickly find out his identity and stop him.
08:41What I wanted to ask you, Marcelo, is if indeed,
08:46as you mentioned at the beginning,
08:48they had to sneak into the work to avoid being attacked?
08:54Not only to avoid being attacked,
08:56but also to defend our work, which we do with great effort,
08:59without having to go over anyone,
09:01only, as they say, as if they were working and doing their job.
09:07Wait, wait, wait, let me listen to Marcelo.
09:19Look, look, look, look.
09:28It is a field battle, with shots, with stones and with wounded.
09:32Look, look how they drag...
09:48Surely that man who drags is wounded.
10:07And there the motorcycle appears with that man,
10:11with a green cap and a...
10:15And there he is going to be shot.
10:17Yes, yes, yes, totally.
10:19He made at least six shots.
10:34Marcelo, and how did this calm down?
10:37We are seeing that it is crazy.
10:39And this calmed down once a majority group weakened the other.
10:45But as who says this, it was a territorial war, practically.
10:51A territorial war.
10:53Of course, in the sense that the group that was more strengthened,
10:59that stayed with more people standing,
11:01was the one that, in a way,
11:03then the other group had no choice but to go back
11:06and there the whole problem dissipated,
11:08until later the police and others fell.
11:12Of course, of course.
11:13Well, the truth is that it is incredible, right?
11:15Because obviously this internal, what Marcelo tells,
11:19is the Gonzalo Sur sector of the UOCRA,
11:24started, intervened and from there, well, everything that can happen, right?
11:29No, as we said a little while ago,
11:31there is a political dispute to keep control of the sectional,
11:35of the regional, right?
11:37Of the UOCRA and here you are seeing how it manifested itself in a confrontation.
11:40Well, what I have left of what Marcelo said,
11:43you at some point focused on taking care of the work.
11:47Why did you say take care of the work?
11:49In other words, if these people entered,
11:51they were going to be at gunpoint with their jobs?
11:56Exactly.
11:57As it sounds so raw and so sad and unreal, but it is like that.
12:01If they entered our work at gunpoint,
12:06we had no choice but to leave the work to them.
12:09That's why we couldn't allow it.
12:11Because there we are, there are many families ...
12:13But Marcelo, taking into account that it is a provincial work,
12:15who is Diego?
12:16Shouldn't it be the state that defines who works, who does not work?
12:19How do the jobs of a work that pays the province of Buenos Aires?
12:25Of course, but here the positions are achieved thanks to what is the UOCRA,
12:30the people who are looking for people who have a job,
12:34who have the job already done, the construction job,
12:40and they relocate and accommodate them in the jobs that are needed.
12:46It's as if it were the Far West, what Marcelo is telling us.
12:53And was there any precedent, Marcelo,
12:55that you know of this situation that has materialized?
12:58That is, that a UOCRA faction stayed with a work,
13:05like what they wanted to do with you?
13:08Yes, there were cases, I can't tell you specifically,
13:11because I can't give you much detail, but it's like that.
13:15There were cases where one faction took the work from another,
13:18there were cases that in other places it happened similar,
13:21very recently something similar happened,
13:23and it ended the same way.
13:25It didn't have as much repercussion as this one,
13:28because this one was terrible compared to the other one,
13:30but sometimes the works are won by force of impulse.
13:34What, what, what, what?
13:35What is this last thing you said?
13:37The works are won by force of?
13:39By force of impulse, in the sense of by force,
13:41by who fights it, by who puts more presence,
13:46who banks the shot, as we say, our charger, right?
13:50Banking the stop, it would be.
13:52Of course, to be there, to bank the stop,
13:54so that the others don't come and stay with your work.
13:57You make me think that we, in this situation,
14:01we cannot allow ourselves to be left without work.
14:04If you are told, is this or you are left without work,
14:06many of us have no choice,
14:08and we are very proud to defend our work in this way.
14:12Tremendous, really tremendous.
14:14Terrible.
14:15What you are telling is incredible,
14:17and also when you say that you have seen,
14:20you know other cases.
14:21The images, evidently, show what Gonzalo was saying,
14:24total lack of control,
14:26the workers themselves disputing the jobs,
14:31and we have to see what balance this leaves,
14:33Marcelo, you were talking about 15 injured.
14:36As few, as an approximation,
14:39there could be many more, obviously,
14:41but I tell you, from the side that I could see,
14:44being in the place,
14:46there were injured on both sides,
14:48from the Olmedo section,
14:50the people who came to attack,
14:53there were many more.
14:55There were more.
14:56Many, many.
14:57And a question regarding this,
14:58the raffle, was the raffle true?
15:00For what work?
15:01Did these jobs exist?
15:03Supposedly of 100.
15:04There is a call that says,
15:05more than 100 jobs will be raffled
15:07for colleagues of construction.
15:09Is this true, a lie?
15:10What was this?
15:12No, no, it's true.
15:13I mean, it's the way we get work sometimes.
15:16We have no choice
15:17when there is a work
15:19and there are many people without a job,
15:22we have no choice but to raffle them
15:24to be fair to everyone.
15:26Everyone needs to work
15:27and there are the people in need,
15:29who are running out of work
15:31and wait for their opportunity by raffling.
15:35Of course, they have the profession, right?
15:37And you get closer,
15:38and you have to go to work,
15:40and earn a little more.
15:41Obviously.
15:42Well, Marcelo, obviously,
15:43we see images
15:44that I'm going to review again
15:47and they are shocking,
15:48because you see weapons.
15:49Was there only one firearm?
15:51Or do you think there were more?
15:53No, there were many, many, many.
15:58I had to go out,
15:59to give you an idea,
16:00I had to go out,
16:01I had to run away
16:02to be able to get out of the place.
16:04Because where they found you,
16:06you were cut there and attacked.
16:11Well, let me review the images again.
16:13Let's see, give it to me.
16:17Come on, come on!
16:35First there are the stones,
16:38then you start to hear the shots, right?
16:42And from there,
16:44the lack of control and madness,
16:46this field battle.
16:48It is not the first that is experienced in the UOCRA.
16:50Gonza just remembered several other clashes
16:52where they ended up with weapons in their hands.
16:55Perhaps the most famous,
16:56that of Madonna Quiroz,
16:57in the transfer of the remains of Perón
17:01to the Quinta de San Vicente.
17:03A very similar image to this, Gonza,
17:04a story, right?
17:05Totally.
17:06Yes, because apart,
17:07notice how he was aiming
17:08the weapon with one arm,
17:10the torso extended.
17:13He also remembered cases near there,
17:16in the city of La Plata,
17:18everything that had to do with the Pata Medina
17:21and the extorsive forms that Marcelo reported,
17:25precisely how they worked,
17:28that group within the guild.
17:31But well, here we are waiting
17:32for them to officially confirm,
17:34not only the issue of the wounded,
17:36but also if there is any detainee in this regard.
17:38Of course.
17:39Do you know, Marcelo,
17:40where the wounded were transferred to?
17:44I suppose to the UPA,
17:45close to the place,
17:46and to the hospital that is also close there,
17:50which I think is Levita Pueblo.
17:52Of course.
17:53Which is in Verazategui.
17:54So there are going to be
17:55more than 15 wounded at this time.
17:57And are all the wounded
17:59with firearms?
18:02Most of them.
18:03Then there are wounded with firearms,
18:05bottle shots,
18:06shrapnel,
18:07whatever you can imagine.
18:08Now, when I put ...
18:09I don't know if you're watching TV, Marcelo,
18:11but if we put the image
18:13of this orange man shooting,
18:16do you recognize him?
18:17Can you tell me who he is?
18:18I'm not looking at the images right now
18:20because I'm not seeing the skeleton.
18:22And there is a boy who is dragged,
18:25who is taken out of, let's say,
18:29the focus of the shots.
18:32Do you know who he is or not?
18:34No, no, no.
18:36I wouldn't know.
18:39Look, this is the image, Gonzalo, right?
18:41Yes, here is the image.
18:43Look how they are taking ...
18:44Look how they are taking ...
18:45Even some are protected with some woods like ...
18:47Oak wood.
18:48Yes, they are work panels.
18:49They are work panels.
18:50But notice how,
18:51now you are going to see
18:52how they are dragging a wounded
18:54to get him out of there.
18:56In the next image I see it perfectly.
18:59And there is the image of the shot.
19:00There it is, there you have it.
19:01That's the image.
19:02Let's see if you can identify,
19:04Gonza, Nora,
19:05if that shirt has any inscription, right?
19:07Or is it a football shirt?
19:09Why do you have the motorcycle license?
19:11It could be the shirt because of the color of Berazategui, huh?
19:13Watch out, it could be the Berazategui shirt
19:15and you have to see if there is no link
19:17with the Berazategui bar, huh?
19:19Pay attention to that fact.
19:20But when he turns his face,
19:21that is, the hat is backwards,
19:23you can see his whole face at one point.
19:25There you even see how he pulls back
19:26the slide of the gun to shoot it, right?
19:28So that a bullet enters the chamber
19:30and be able to use it.
19:31But if you see,
19:32do you aim at a person?
19:35That is, does he aim to kill us?
19:37Is he aiming to threaten us?
19:39That is, do you shoot up?
19:40No, no, no, no.
19:41Are you aiming at someone?
19:42They shoot in the direction
19:43where you were, Marcel, right?
19:48I'm not seeing the images,
19:49I can't tell you
19:50because I'm not seeing the images.
19:51I'm listening to them.
19:53Now, at the time of the shots,
19:54did you feel that the bullet passed close to you?
19:57Yes, yes, clearly,
19:58apart from being a neighbor of the area,
20:00I live nearby too.
20:01Yes.
20:02Look, you know what?
20:03I tell Noelia,
20:04I tell Noelia,
20:05Agustín Medina is writing to me,
20:07who is the son of El Pata Medina.
20:09I hope,
20:10I hope they give us the right to reply
20:12for the lies and fallacies
20:13that speak of my father.
20:15Agustín,
20:17wait for me two minutes
20:18that they put you on the air.
20:19Give me a minute,
20:21please.
20:23And listening,
20:24let's see,
20:25give me a minute.
20:26Give me a minute,
20:27I'll be back on the images
20:29and there we put it on the air,
20:30Agustín Medina,
20:32who is the son of El Pata Medina,
20:34to see what is happening.
20:36Yes,
20:37they are already calling you, Agustín,
20:40to see,
20:41to have the two versions,
20:42because evidently,
20:43here are two looks.
20:45When we have it online,
20:46we put it to Agustín Medina.
20:48But what we are talking about
20:49is that we have seen this image many times,
20:51unfortunately,
20:52in the trade union world
20:54and we remembered,
20:55I just passed the photo of Madonna Quiroz,
20:57do you remember?
20:58The photo,
20:59when you see a photo,
21:00you say,
21:01it's the same.
21:02In fact,
21:03I don't know if it came on a motorcycle too.
21:04No,
21:05it was standing.
21:06I kept the image of the motorcycle,
21:07but no,
21:08it was standing,
21:09there we pass the image,
21:10it was standing,
21:11pointing in the same way,
21:12there is the photo,
21:13look,
21:14it was standing,
21:15I also thought it was on a motorcycle
21:16at that moment.
21:17Give me,
21:18there is the historical photo
21:19of Madonna Quiroz.
21:20Give me,
21:21please,
21:22Marcelo,
21:23can you wait for me a minute?
21:25Well,
21:26let's see if,
21:27there Marcelo came out of the air,
21:28a minute,
21:29we are going to talk to Agustín Medina,
21:30who is the son of El Pata Medina,
21:32as for production,
21:33confirm it to me,
21:34we put it on the air.
21:36Batalla Campal,
21:38de la UOCRA,
21:39in the southern area,
21:41this is Verazategui,
21:42this is Platanos,
21:44the dispute is for jobs
21:46in works
21:47awarded by the province of Buenos Aires,
21:50housing program,
21:51128 homes
21:52and a new work
21:53that was starting next door,
21:55right?