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00:00We are still together on Mediantv, thank you for remaining faithful to us, here are the
00:19titles of your day.
00:21The permanent representative of Morocco in front of the Council of Security to put
00:29forward the Moroccan strategy of fighting terrorism, we are talking about it honestly.
00:33They also want to have good results on the front of the fight against terrorism, so
00:41to achieve this, Nigeria, Burkina Faso and Mali have decided to launch in the weeks
00:46to come a unified force of 5,000 soldiers.
00:51The weapons were killed in Gaza, but not in the occupied Sydney, where the Israeli army
00:57continues its operation called Iron Wall, it wants to block the road to the armed groups.
01:03An offensive particularly muscular in Jenin, where the last report was of 10 dead and
01:0935 injured.
01:10Morocco is often cited as an example in the fight against terrorism, and just yesterday
01:20in front of the Security Council, the permanent representative of the Kingdom to the UN came
01:26to the main axes of the strategy, put in place under the leadership of His Majesty the King
01:31Mohammed VI, to fight against this phenomenon.
01:34For Omar Hilal, this strategy is based on four fundamental pillars, the strengthening
01:40of security and the legal arsenal, economic and human development, the preservation of
01:46cultural identity or even the promotion of regional and international cooperation.
01:52In addition, as I told you in the titles, they want to have good results on the front
01:59of the fight against terrorism, so to achieve this, Nigeria, Burkina Faso and Mali have
02:05decided to launch in the weeks to come a unified force of 5,000 soldiers.
02:11These three countries, led by the military, have formed last year a confederation, the
02:16United States of the Sahel.
02:19The strength of the member countries of the United States of the Sahel is gradually
02:26taking place.
02:27The Nigerian Minister of Defense, General Sali Foumoudi, has announced that the forces
02:33of these three countries will now be able to intervene together.
02:37He said that this unified force was practically ready with a staff of 5,000 men to fight
02:44against terrorist attacks.
02:46This army will not only have its personnel, but also its terrestrial aerial means of
02:52information and its coordination system.
02:55He explained that the three countries of the alliance of the states of the Sahel are facing
03:00recurring attacks, both from armed groups linked to Al-Qaeda, as well as from independent
03:07rebel groups.
03:08Nigeria, Burkina Faso and Mali are already conducting joint operations against terrorism,
03:15especially in the area of the three borders where the attacks are the most numerous.
03:20As a reminder, the three countries announced almost a year ago their departure from the
03:25Economic Community of the States of West Africa, the CEDEAO.
03:29The Sahel countries believe that the regional organization is ineffective in the face of
03:34their security challenges.
03:36Moreover, this departure could be effective as early as January 29.
03:41The weapons were killed in Gaza, but not in the occupied Jordan, where the Israeli army
03:47continues its operation called the Iron Wall.
03:50The Sahel wants to block the road to the armed groups.
03:53A particularly muscular offensive in Jenin, where the latest report states 10 dead and
03:5935 injured.
04:02Just a few days after the start of the ceasefire in Gaza, the city of Jenin again
04:09underwent Israeli raids.
04:12The Israeli army has announced that it has launched what it calls an anti-terrorist operation
04:19in this city north of the occupied West Bank.
04:22The operation, which is extensive and large-scale, aims to eradicate terrorism in Jenin,
04:29as stated by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
04:34Jenin, and in particular its refugee camp, are regularly the targets of Israeli military
04:41intervention.
04:42In recent months, these attacks have followed, leaving entire neighborhoods cut off from
04:47each other.
04:48Faced with this displacement of the cycle of violence, the UN Secretary-General is very
04:54worried about the violence in West Bank, especially the military operation in Jenin.
05:01Antonio Guterres called on Israel to show maximum restraint.
05:07The violence in West Bank intensified the day after Donald Trump's return to the White House.
05:24In West Bank, there are 76 people in the ski resort of Qartal Qaya in the center of the country.
05:29The day after the tragedy, 20 patients remained hospitalized in Boulou, the provincial capital
05:34located 35 km from the resort.
05:37Nine people, including the director of the Grand Qartal hotel, were arrested as part
05:42of an investigation launched by the Ministry of Justice, which assigned six very angry
05:47prosecutors.
05:49The
05:53fight against drug trafficking continues in the kingdom.
06:00The elements of the Marrakech police prefecture, in coordination with their counterparts in
06:07the city of Safi, have managed to fail an attempt to traffic 9 tons and 800 kilograms of
06:15Shira.
06:16During the operation, six people were arrested for suspected links with an active criminal
06:21network in international drug and psychotropic substances trafficking.
06:26We remain in the kingdom, where the works of the 8th General Assembly of the Atlantic
06:35Federation of African Press Agencies were opened today, with Camp Pandorg the 10 years
06:41since the creation of the two-day FAPAS conclave, allows to shed light on the ways of promotion
06:48and strengthening of African health sovereignty in order to better face the future shocks.
06:54The future of African press agencies and the role they must play in the 21st century, in
07:01their diversity and their respective specificities, will also be at the heart of the exchanges.
07:09And to talk about it, we are with the Director General of the Congolese Press Agency, live
07:15from Salé.
07:16Welcome, Marie Bakoumania.
07:18Hello and thank you for accepting our invitation.
07:25Hello, hello to all your listeners and viewers.
07:29So, the FAPAS celebrates its 10 years of existence.
07:33What were the major achievements of this federation today and how has it evolved to
07:39respond to the media and health challenges of the continent?
07:46Yes, the first challenge that was presented to the Atlantic Federation of Press Agencies
07:53was to put the press agencies together.
07:57This is the first challenge.
07:59It is the challenge of federating the press agencies of the continent so that they can
08:04get together, get in synergy and face the challenges, especially technological challenges
08:09and the challenges of the development of the sector of communication and the media.
08:14We can say without fear that during the 10 years, the FAPAS has succeeded in meeting
08:20these challenges.
08:21The second challenge also presented to the FAPAS is the challenge of training, the training
08:27of media personnel, of our media, in relation to the current technological evolution.
08:34And there, today, the theme on sovereignty and health highlights the efforts that have
08:44been made and gives clues so that the future of the FAPAS can be oriented towards the concrete,
08:52towards what directly affects the African populations, populations that are often manipulated
08:59by stories that come from elsewhere.
09:02Precisely, the theme of this assembly focuses on the role of the media in managing health
09:09crises.
09:10According to you, what are the main challenges that African media face when they cover
09:16health-related issues, especially in times of crisis?
09:24Precisely, you know, in this academy that has been created, it will also help Africans
09:31to have reliable statistics.
09:34Because often, the statistics developed elsewhere are the statistics that are oriented, manipulated.
09:42Thanks to this effort of His Majesty the King, who preferred to give this academy the
09:52task of collecting data, we can, the media, we can now inform the populations with
10:00reliable statistics developed by ourselves, analysed by ourselves, ourselves Africans,
10:05I mean.
10:06And this is an important step in terms of dignity and in terms of confidence in relation
10:11to the information we deliver.
10:13Because when we have sources that are essentially African, with African experts from all African
10:19countries, we can 100% say that the African populations are informed with confidence.
10:26Because the sources are African, the sources are our own children, our own intellectuals,
10:32our own researchers.
10:34And there, confidence will increase.
10:37And when we increase the confidence of concerned people, of concerned people, suddenly we have
10:43a large part of the solution in the resolution of health crises.
10:48We have known with Ebola, in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, with IMPOX, the media
10:53played an essential role because the data came directly from local experts.
11:00And when we deal with local experts, people we already know, the populations tend to
11:05trust rather than those who come from elsewhere.
11:08It is because there is also the narrative that changes, isn't it?
11:15Absolutely.
11:16Absolutely.
11:17The narrative must absolutely change when it is the children, the Africans themselves,
11:23who write the stories.
11:25Rest assured, the understanding of these stories, who write the stories with their own words,
11:30even with their emotions too.
11:33Tell yourself, at this time, the narrative can only change.
11:37And even the perception of others, the perception that others will have of Africans will change.
11:43It will fundamentally change because it is a resumption of consciousness.
11:47It is also a resumption of sovereignty.
11:49Precisely, this notion of sovereignty is because you work by elaborating your own statistics.
11:55You put together the experts who exchange their experiences, the results of their experiences
12:01and their research.
12:03In the end, you have concrete that you propose to the African community.
12:09And seen elsewhere, others will begin to respect you because they will finally say to themselves,
12:14the Africans have understood that every time they are together, they can do things well,
12:19they can do things with dignity.
12:21And the most interesting thing in this royal initiative is to see that we are giving Africans
12:29their dignity.
12:31It is very important when a person feels valued, when he discovers his dignity,
12:38he can propose better, he can do more than if it always came from somewhere else.
12:46And often it is with a certain condescension, whereas between Africans,
12:51generally, this condescension does not exist because we are rather in solidarity.
12:56We are more in solidarity rather than in cooperation in the diplomatic sense of the term.
13:03Africans have something more between them.
13:07When they talk to each other, they understand each other.
13:09They understand each other easily and they recover their dignity.
13:12And in dignity, when you are given assistance in dignity, you accept it with a good heart.
13:17And this assistance will have beneficial effects for the benefit of millions and millions of African populations.
13:25This royal initiative is absolutely a chance for the continent,
13:31which will not only recover its dignity, but also its sovereignty in the health sector.
13:36And if this experience in the health sector works,
13:39we can also go into the environment sector, into trade, etc.
13:43Even in intra-African exchanges.
13:46I believe that this model is a model to duplicate, it is a model to encourage.
13:51It is a model that can bring Africa out of underdevelopment.
13:55It is a model that can put us on the path of sustainable development.
13:59A model to encourage information by Africans for Africans.
14:04Tell us how the Congolese press agency, of which you are the director,
14:11fights today against disinformation and fake news,
14:14particularly in the field of health, where the consequences can sometimes be disastrous.
14:22Listen, we have created a service that we have called debunking.
14:31This service has the role of tracking fake news and giving the right information.
14:37And this service in the health sector has taken the decision,
14:41the option of having only African experts and Congolese experts intervene, mainly.
14:48Why Congolese experts?
14:50Because Congolese experts live with the sick.
14:53They live in the same conditions as the sick.
14:55They know the smallest details of the living conditions.
15:00And they bring, these researchers and these experts,
15:04bring adapted solutions to the situation of Congolese people and Congolese patients.
15:11This is why we prefer local expertise.
15:15We prefer African expertise rather than waiting for everything to come from the WHO, UNICEF,
15:22traditional organizations that often work on the basis of certain clichés,
15:27certain clichés that do not often meet the real needs of African populations,
15:34which are sometimes basic needs, basic needs.
15:37And when we do not have the knowledge of certain environments, even of certain cultures,
15:45we will not provide the appropriate answers to the health problems that arise in these populations.
15:51We will certainly provide rational and thoughtful solutions in laboratories,
15:56very far away, whereas in reality these solutions will not be operational.
16:01And we, at the level of the Congolese Press Agency,
16:04we have estimated that making those who are in direct contact with the population speak
16:11is much more beneficial than importing everything that comes,
16:16results that come from elsewhere and results that sometimes are not adapted.
16:22Welcome Marie Bakoumania.
16:24Thank you for all these clarifications.
16:26Thank you for answering our questions.
16:31It is I who thank you and I particularly thank FAPA for offering this opportunity
16:37to address me directly to the Moroccan people and to your listeners.
16:43Now it is time for the guest of the big news of the day.
16:48I wanted to announce that Niger, Burkina Faso and Mali,
16:51three countries that form the Alliance of States of the Sahel,
16:55have decided to launch a unified force of 5,000 men to fight against terrorism.
17:01To talk about it, we are with Arine Zouzi, political analyst.
17:04He is live from Brussels with us.
17:07Arine Zouzi, hello and thank you for accepting our invitation.
17:12Thank you for welcoming me.
17:15So, this announcement by the Nigerian Minister of Defense, we saw it coming.
17:21Can you come back to this?
17:23I don't know, what are the differences between the previous military collaborations between these countries?
17:30So, we obviously think of the joint force of the G5 Sahel,
17:35which was launched in 2017 following the creation of the G5 Sahel in 2014.
17:42But before answering you more precisely,
17:45I would like to remind you that according to the Global Firepower platform,
17:50Mali, Niger and Burkina respectively occupy the 18th, 25th and 31st places
17:59of the most powerful armies in Africa.
18:02And so, you have three countries that face common security challenges
18:07and who decide to mutualize their efforts to precisely stop the rise of terrorism.
18:15So, it is true that this is not the first initiative of the G5.
18:18Everyone remembers, of course, the G5 Sahel joint force,
18:22which had unfortunately suffered from several things.
18:26The first, of course, was a weak contributory capacity of the member countries.
18:32At the time, Mauritania, Burkina Faso, Mali, Niger and Chad
18:36had made the bet to embark on this adventure,
18:39which effectively, on paper, promised rather interesting results.
18:46Unfortunately, this was not the case,
18:48because you had, beyond this weak contributory capacity,
18:53the fact that there were, on the part of external funders,
18:58sometimes hidden agendas that did not always correspond to the objectives of the targeted countries.
19:04And then there was also the fact that the African Union had a rather minimal role,
19:09which weakened both its role and its influence
19:12and did not allow the African countries concerned by this force
19:16to demonstrate their ability to solve this security problem
19:20when you had buyers like France, the European Union or others
19:24who were permanently feeding the ambiguity.
19:27Here we are in a totally different case.
19:30You have three countries that left the CDAO together,
19:35which created this confederation of the Sahel states,
19:39which initially wanted a political-economic alliance.
19:44Today, an additional step has been taken with the security dimension.
19:50You have reminded yourself, with terrestrial means,
19:54aerial and information means, as well as an integrated command structure.
19:59However, the challenges remain very numerous
20:01and we will see how things will be articulated in the coming weeks.
20:06We will have the opportunity to come back during this interview on these challenges.
20:12But before that, we heard the Nigerian Minister of Defense
20:16talk about a force of 5,000 men with aerial, terrestrial and information means.
20:23How will this unified force coordinate its operations on the ground?
20:31First, we will need to set up an integrated coordination mechanism.
20:35We will see how the three countries will distribute their responsibilities.
20:41It will also be about identifying within this force, I would say,
20:47the dimension that will be most amenable to be able to serve as a bridgehead
20:52to fight terrorism effectively.
20:55I would like to remind you that the first objective is to fight terrorism,
21:00but also organized crime.
21:02These are scourges against which these three countries are unfortunately concerned.
21:07I would like to remind you that in recent weeks,
21:09this has not been very easy for Burkina, Mali and Nigeria,
21:13which have suffered extremely murderous attacks,
21:17which have damaged the ability of their respective armies to react,
21:21by mutualizing their efforts.
21:23The expectation, of course, is very high,
21:25since it will be about seeing how these three countries will be able
21:30to set up a device that will distinguish itself from what has been done in the past.
21:37In any case, these three countries of the AES have recently announced their withdrawal from the CDAO.
21:44Can we see a message sent to the East African organization?
21:52You know, already at the time of the G5 Sahel Joint Force,
21:56the CDAO was rather in retreat.
21:58Here we are truly in the case of three countries
22:02who decide to create a unified force,
22:05which will operate outside the mandate of the CDAO,
22:10since these three countries are no longer part of it,
22:12but also outside a mandate of the UN or the African Union.
22:16It is therefore a tripartite dedicated to the fight against jihadism.
22:21Those who have bet that these three countries have made a mistake by withdrawing from the CDAO
22:27will unfortunately have to wait.
22:29I think that at this stage, we should rather give the benefit of the doubt to an initiative
22:35that will have to be judged in parts, on the ground,
22:38and according to the results that will be obtained on the ground.
22:42I also imagine that the logistical, financial and operational challenges are enormous
22:48and these three countries will be confronted with these challenges,
22:53especially in a regional context marked by tensions,
22:57let's say, political and security, and complex.
23:01Complex security.
23:02Yes, it must be remembered, indeed,
23:05that the great reproach that was made to the G5 Sahel Joint Force
23:10was the weak contributory capacity of the States,
23:14which at one point almost left the European Union, France and other partners
23:19to finance it.
23:21But if you add to this the political instability of certain countries,
23:25because that also weakens the capacity of the States
23:29to be able to coherently implement effective security policies,
23:35in the case of SPES, it will indeed be necessary to question
23:39the real or supposed capacity of these three countries
23:42to be able to provide adequate resources
23:45to allow this unified force to carry out its missions.
23:49These missions, which should, moreover, be concentrated in the Lib,
23:53in any case, gourmet, the famous zone of the three borders,
23:57which is precisely the most complicated area,
24:02when it comes to the fight against terrorism.
24:05As I said a few moments ago,
24:08we will see how things will be articulated.
24:10The political will is there, on the part of the three heads of state.
24:14We will see if this political will can be translated into action
24:19to equip this unified force with the means that will be necessary for its mission.
24:24In any case, these terrorist groups will operate,
24:27and you said it, they often operate in difficult border areas to access.
24:32How will this unified force adapt?
24:36In particular, will it have to adapt its tactics
24:39to respond effectively to these trans-border threats?
24:44I mentioned earlier the fact that these three countries
24:47who have decided to link their destinies
24:50have been confronted in recent weeks with very particular difficulties.
24:56We are thinking of Mali in the north,
24:58we are thinking of Burkina Faso recently and Niger.
25:01Once again, the expertise of these three states
25:05in very specific areas of the fight against terrorism will be decisive.
25:09It will therefore be necessary to find a way to coordinate this, I would say, effectively.
25:14We do not have many indications on the theater of operations,
25:19nor on the rules of engagement that will be put forward
25:25to make this force operational.
25:28But what is certain is that the three heads of state have reaffirmed their will
25:33to be able to cut with what has been done in the past,
25:38that is to say, avoid political rivalries,
25:41avoid instrumentalization of fund-raising
25:45and above all ensure that the objectives that will be defined can be achieved.
25:50Thierry Zosy, thank you for all these details.
25:52Thank you for answering our questions.
25:55You are welcome.
25:59This concludes this newscast.
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