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00:00Well, Mr. Nagano, in the interview with Golden Combi the other day,
00:04Kuruma-san said,
00:05Mr. Nagano's interesting point is that he creates his words from nothingness.
00:09It's a Japanese word that doesn't exist.
00:11That's a very good word.
00:13Mr. Nagano, what did you think when you heard that?
00:15I can't avoid the words that someone said.
00:17Yes, yes, I understand.
00:18That's why I tend to avoid the words that are popular or used by comedians.
00:23I don't say things like cold.
00:25I try to leave unique words rather than the words that hit people.
00:34I see.
00:36In the previous recording, you said,
00:38I don't know anything.
00:40Yes.
00:41That's why you said monkey.
00:43Monkey? Yes, yes, yes, yes.
00:45That's what you said.
00:47I could understand Mr. Nagano's interesting point.
00:50You compare it to something familiar.
00:52For example, grain.
00:53I don't know the words, so I don't know if it's good or bad.
00:57That's why I'm saying something very familiar.
01:00Comedians often use metaphors.
01:04I don't think I've ever heard of that.
01:07I think so, too.
01:08It's been a long time since I've done it, so I'm getting embarrassed.
01:10It's been seven years, and I've noticed that everyone is saying the same thing.
01:14Yes, I understand.
01:15In the competition, people say,
01:17Why do you say usual suspects?
01:20It's a little bit like this.
01:23Ah, he said it.
01:26Why do you say that?
01:28I'm embarrassed.
01:29And you often say,
01:31You have a face that is irreplaceable.
01:33What kind of face is this irreplaceable face?
01:36Celebrities have only met once.
01:39It's the face of a person who drinks white wine from noon and posts it on Instagram.
01:45I've only met once.
01:47When you take a picture, you have to be prepared.
01:50Yes, I'll take it.
01:52You're prepared.
01:53That's right.
01:54It's an unnatural act.
01:55White wine says, I forgive you.
01:57I've only met once.
01:59I was in an information program.
02:01I went to a celebrity's house.
02:04I said, I forgive you.
02:07That's an irreplaceable face.
02:09That face?
02:10That's the face.
02:11I finally understand.
02:13Nagano vs. Kuruma
02:16Nagano vs. Kuruma
02:18It's bright.
02:19What's this?
02:20It's a rare title call.
02:23I was surprised.
02:24I'll show you a lot of questions that are divided into A and B.
02:29Nagano and Kuruma will give you A or B cards.
02:33If you get caught in that answer, we'll talk about it.
02:38I don't want you to argue.
02:41I want you to understand each other's thoughts.
02:44That's a good idea.
02:46Here's the first question.
02:49If you were reborn as yourself, would you be an entertainer or not?
02:58Nagano would be an entertainer.
03:00Kuruma wouldn't be an entertainer.
03:01I wouldn't be an entertainer.
03:02Nagano, why would you be an entertainer?
03:03I don't mean it in a cool way.
03:05I think this is the only thing that makes me rich.
03:09I'm a sociopath.
03:12And it was too late to sell.
03:15I was lucky.
03:17So, I wouldn't say I want to be an entertainer.
03:19If I didn't do this, I wouldn't know what to do.
03:24I can't work normally.
03:25So, I wouldn't say this is fun.
03:28I would say it's annoying.
03:31But I think this is the only way to get rid of it.
03:34That's what I think.
03:35If you were reborn as yourself, would you be an entertainer or not?
03:40That's a challenge, isn't it?
03:42If you were reborn as yourself, would you be an entertainer or not?
03:44I would be an entertainer.
03:46I've been doing this since I was a student.
03:48I wanted to make an app.
03:51I wanted to make a virtual currency.
03:54I didn't know that.
03:55It's cool, isn't it?
03:56It's cool to fight in the latest place.
03:59It's cool.
04:00It's cool to fight in a place where you don't know what's going to happen.
04:03It's cool to be an entertainer.
04:05If you were reborn as yourself, would you be an entertainer or not?
04:11I don't want to be myself.
04:14I don't like myself at all.
04:16What do you want to be reborn as?
04:18I want to be reborn as Hattoshin.
04:21I don't want to be reborn as a watermelon.
04:25I hate being reborn as a watermelon.
04:28I want to be reborn as you.
04:31I think so, too.
04:33I want to be reborn as you.
04:35I don't want to be reborn as an announcer.
04:38I want to be reborn as a comedian.
04:40I want to be reborn as a comedian.
04:42I've been living my life denying ordinary life.
04:46I want to experience that.
04:48I agree with you.
04:49When I go to a wedding of a junior high school student,
04:54everyone is happy.
04:57I don't know why I'm here.
05:01I agree with you.
05:02Nagano-san and Kuruma-san are happy, aren't they?
05:05In a way, I'm happy to be on TV.
05:09But I'm not happy at all.
05:12I think I'm very emotional.
05:15I think I'm very emotional.
05:17I think I'm very emotional.
05:19I think I'm very emotional.
05:20I think I'm very emotional.
05:25I think I'm very emotional.
05:26I think I'm very emotional.
05:27I think I'm very emotional.
05:30We're sitting down and talking realistically.
05:35I think ordinary people are more stable than us.
05:40I think ordinary people are more stable than us.
05:44I agree with you.
05:45I don't usually get emotional.
05:47I feel like I'm going to wake up and say,
05:49I feel like I'm going to wake up and say,
05:50I don't want to be a human anymore.
05:52You don't want to be a human?
05:54You're a monster.
05:56You don't want to be a human?
05:59I want to end the act of being careful in this life.
06:03I want to be a cat or a jellyfish.
06:07You want to be a jellyfish?
06:09I don't want to be a jellyfish.
06:11I don't want to be a jellyfish.
06:12What about that?
06:14In an interview, you're happy.
06:19Are you really happy?
06:21What kind of interview is that?
06:22In a countryside.
06:23It's like a dance trip.
06:24Yes, yes, yes.
06:24And I say, I'm happy to be a part of your family.
06:27But to me, it's not exciting.
06:29Is it happiness?
06:30It's happiness.
06:31There are a lot of people like that in your hometown, Miyazaki, right?
06:33No, but I don't know if it's true.
06:36They make a face for me.
06:37A face for you?
06:38I feel like I'm being tricked only when I'm with them.
06:42You're being forced.
06:43I'm so jealous, I can't stand it.
06:46Otherwise, would I be able to sing in a karaoke like that?
06:49When I'm in a karaoke, I'm like,
06:51Did you have a dream?
06:54Did you have a dream?
06:55But I threw it away and now I'm living my life as an entertainer.
07:02But I'm leaking in the karaoke right now.
07:04I feel like I want to take a spotlight before I go home.
07:08I feel like I want to take a spotlight before I go home.
07:10When I go to karaoke with people like that,
07:13I sing Okuda Tamiya's Satsurai and mount it.
07:16What?
07:17That's not a mount.
07:20There were a lot of things, but I felt like there were a lot of things.
07:26But you don't sing in karaoke with meaning.
07:30No, they've sent me a lot of messages.
07:34I'm an entertainer, so I win in words.
07:37They attack me with songs.
07:39It's a big message.
07:41I'm going to be told what to do in an hour, so I'll hold it in.
07:45I'll hold it in until the karaoke.
07:47I'll be like, wait for me, Okuda Tamiya.
07:49I'll let you know, you bastard.
07:52That's not what I meant.
07:54Here's the next question.
07:56If you were a judge at a show race, would you accept A or B?
08:02Go ahead.
08:03You would accept A or B.
08:05I think we're both doing this for each other.
08:08What would you do if I told you?
08:11I want to be a player.
08:12I don't want people to think of me as a person who's been down.
08:20You don't want people to think you've been around for a while.
08:23I want to play M-1 as soon as possible.
08:25I want to play next year, and next year.
08:26No way.
08:27I'm begging you.
08:28When I'm laughing, I don't want people to think that I said that to someone.
08:34I don't want people to judge me.
08:36Would you accept that?
08:38But I think you're the most suitable person to do that.
08:41I don't think there are many people who can make you do that.
08:44That's strong!
08:45I don't think there are many people who can make you do that.
08:47I don't think people watch manzai in the first place.
08:50So, I don't want people to judge me, but I want people to be kind to me.
08:54I heard that Hanawa-san is the only person who's been kind to me.
08:58Reiji-san said that.
08:59I don't want people to judge me, but I want people to be kind to me.
09:03I have my own reasons, and I can say what I want to say.
09:06If there's a tournament coming up, it's better to have a reason, right?
09:09Of course.
09:10It's true that everyone is different, and everyone is good.
09:12So, it's fine if there are 10 teams, and we all play in the finals, and if we don't rank each other, it's fine.
09:17But if we rank each other, I think it's better for someone with a good reason to do it.
09:21I think it's important to think about how you look, too.
09:24It's a matter of personal preference.
09:26You know, there's an R-1 tournament, right?
09:28Oh, I see.
09:29I think it's possible to be balanced.
09:31It's a mess, but if it's at that time, it's serious.
09:34That's a serious aspect.
09:36Maybe that's how you can expand your work.
09:39Nagano-san, let's start with a quiet one.
09:41For example, NHK Newcomer Laugh Contest.
09:43Can I do that?
09:44That's really...
09:45Motoko Obayashi is a newcomer.
09:47Anyone can do that.
09:49Can I do that with Motoko Obayashi?
09:51Yu-san is doing that, too.
09:53Yu-san is doing that?
09:54Yu-san is also a NHK newcomer.
09:56I'd like to see that.
09:58I usually look at him.
10:00By cheating?
10:01Sometimes I look at him.
10:02Let's move on to the next question.
10:04If you were an entertainer in your next life, which agency would you join?
10:08A. Yoshimoto B. Not Yoshimoto
10:13Go ahead.
10:14What should I do?
10:16It's the other way around.
10:18Do you prefer Yoshimoto?
10:19I wanted to join Yoshimoto.
10:21I went to the Tokyo NSC.
10:24At that time, Ran Ran Suzuki was popular.
10:27When I imitated Ran Ran Suzuki's way of speaking,
10:31I was rejected.
10:33Because my face was dark.
10:35How did you do it?
10:36Hello.
10:38I'm Nagano.
10:40I like comedy.
10:41I was rejected.
10:43That's revenge.
10:46But...
10:47It was a perfect NSC.
10:49The result may have been good.
10:51I may have been in a unique style and position.
10:54I think Yoshimoto is comedy.
10:58In a bad way, I think it's a bad style.
11:01I envy Yoshimoto's connection.
11:06If I were an entertainer in my next life, I would like to join Yoshimoto.
11:11I think I'm a masterpiece of Yoshimoto.
11:16There are many interesting people in Yoshimoto.
11:20I've been doing the homework that Yoshimoto gave me.
11:24The live show that Yoshimoto gave me.
11:26The theater in the whole country.
11:28I have a rich system.
11:30I'm a person who is only grateful for that.
11:32Did you grow up in Blue Rock?
11:33That's right.
11:34I just won in Blue Rock.
11:36If I were an entertainer in my next life, I would enjoy everything.
11:40Until I retire.
11:42There is no one who enjoys Yoshimoto more than me.
11:45I'm Yoshimoto.
11:47I'm Yoshimoto.
11:49I respect everyone.
11:51Not Yoshimoto, but people who are popular.
11:53There are only geniuses.
11:55There are only a few stage performances.
11:58You suddenly do a miraculously interesting manzai.
12:00Isn't it abnormal?
12:01Like Mr. Saraba.
12:03It's the first story in the M-1 semi-final.
12:05It's like going to the finals with a monster.
12:07I want to fight while thinking about whether I can be a genius.
12:14If you win, you can get a huge prize.
12:17I want to experience the fun of the game.
12:21There is a sense of fun in the atmosphere of the connection between people.
12:25It's impossible to do that in Yoshimoto.
12:27I want to be in a world where I can laugh at the atmosphere of Yoshimoto.
12:37I want to be in a world where I can laugh at the atmosphere of Yoshimoto.
12:45That's why I think I'm doing the right thing as Yoshimoto.
12:50It's the movement of Yoshimoto.
12:52That's why you get together and watch the results of the show race.
12:58That's right.
13:00Don't play Yoshimoto.
13:03I love Yoshimoto more than anyone else.
13:09My younger brother said,
13:13Yoshimoto is Yoshimoto.
13:17It's Yoshimoto's words.
13:19There is a story about AN-AN, so it seems to be over today.
13:22It's the end of Yoshimoto.
13:24What is the story of AN-AN?
13:26What is the story of AN-AN?
13:27Do we appear in AN-AN?
13:29Is it okay?
13:30AN-AN is a program that appears in a dirty program like this.
13:33I don't think so.
13:35I feel like I'm putting dirt on it.
13:37I wasn't surprised at all.
13:39I don't think it's a dirty program.
13:42I'm sorry.
13:43What is the story of AN-AN?
13:46People who read AN-AN are watching our program.
13:52Did you think so?
13:54I've seen it a lot.
13:55But that's a good-shaped person.
13:57That's why this is...
14:00I think I'm going to suffer and die.
14:04People who read AN-AN are happy to see people who are good-shaped running around with revenge and anger against good-shaped people.
14:12I'm happy.
14:13This contradiction.
14:15You can't see it because it's not good-shaped.
14:17You'll get tired.
14:18That's right.
14:19You can't see it.
14:20You think you know it.
14:22I thought it was the same shape.
14:25It's not new.
14:27People who have similar feelings to you say things that you don't usually say.
14:35That's why I'm surprised.
14:37I'm sorry to say this.
14:41I think I have a longing for good-shaped people.
14:43Good-shaped people don't get that much stress.
14:47That's why they usually play tag.
14:52We're really sad.
14:54We'll do it together.
14:56We're in the same pain.
14:58They're good-shaped, but they have a longing for us.
15:03We're dangerous.
15:05That's why models go to the bar in Nakameguro to get caught.
15:10But they're not good-shaped.
15:13They don't have pain.
15:15I want to get rid of it, but I can't because I'm longing for it.
15:19I feel like I'm longing for Nirvana's Kurt Cobain.
15:22When Kurt was 7 years old, his parents got divorced.
15:26I read it.
15:28I thought my parents were getting married.
15:31Please get a divorce.
15:33Me too.
15:35I want a scar.
15:37I want my relatives to say, I'm home.
15:41That's what I'm longing for.
15:43Next time, Ranja vs. Kunisaki.
15:47I failed at everything.
15:49Failure?
15:51I failed at everything.
16:00It's time to balance with the main story.
16:07It's cute.
16:09It's like fate.
16:12It's like fate.
16:17It's mine.
16:19It's mine.
16:21It's mine.
16:23I'm scared.
16:26Don't fight.
16:28Don't fight.
16:32Don't fight.
16:35He took it.
16:37Great.
16:39A perfect winner was born.
16:43It's gotten cold recently.
16:46That's what I think.
16:48I don't think much.
16:50I'm good at being cold.
16:53I'm not good at being cold.
16:57That's one way of thinking.
17:00That's all.