સપ્તક સંગીત મહોત્સવનો અગિયારમાં દિવસના આરંભમાં કથક, બાદ ભક્તિ ગાન અને અંતે સંતુરના સૂર થકી સપ્તકની 11મી રાત રસપ્રધાન બની રહી હતી.
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00:00Music
00:19On the 11th day of Saptak, in the first Satra,
00:23Kathak dance was performed and Ishira Parikh,
00:26an artist by the name of Khyat, performed with him.
00:29Ishira, first of all, what is Kathak?
00:34What is Kathak? Please tell us about it.
00:37Kathak is a classical dance.
00:40In India, there are 7-8 types of classical dances.
00:45Kathak is the only dance from North India.
00:50The word Kathak means,
00:53if you say Katha, you say Kathak.
00:56So, Kathak is the one who tells a story.
00:59So, basically, it originated from Kathavachan.
01:02And that too in North India.
01:05In earlier times, there were no means of communication or entertainment.
01:11There were Kathakars.
01:13And Kathakars used to tell different stories.
01:16And while telling stories, they developed different facial expressions.
01:26And that is how Kathak dance originated.
01:32Ishira, what did you say in the first Satra, and what was the story?
01:39Every classical dance has a special way of presenting it.
01:46So, Kathak dance has a traditional way of presenting it.
01:54That is how we presented Kathak today.
01:57In the beginning, we performed a piece called Anantnath.
02:01It was a celestial orchestra.
02:05So, the different Gods and Goddesses,
02:09who are associated with music and dance,
02:12imagine that they are dancing together.
02:20Shiva's Damru, Krishna's Basuri, Sharda's Veena,
02:24and Ganesha's Chaturanga Swarupa.
02:28We performed such a piece.
02:31And then, we performed three dances.
02:34There are different types of dances in classical dance.
02:38We performed three dances out of the sixteen popular dances.
02:45For Kathak, it is said that he first went to the temple,
02:49and then to the royal court.
02:51So, how did he come to Gujarat?
02:54In Gujarat, the cultural ethos of Gujarat,
03:04is more similar to that of North and Central India.
03:09So, the tradition of Kathak,
03:11the tradition of Kathak dance,
03:13can be adopted very easily.
03:17Even in Bhavai, we can see so many movements of Kathak.
03:27We can also see the words of Kathak.
03:29But we cannot say that Kathak is a Gujarati dance.
03:33But Gujarat has adopted it very easily.
03:37Because culturally, it is very close to us.
03:42From the perspective of language,
03:44or from the perspective of movement,
03:47or from the perspective of the queen,
03:49it is very similar to the queen of Gujarat,
03:52and to the cultural ethos of Gujarat.
03:56Kathak dances are from Lucknow, Jaipur, and Benaras.
03:59So, which dances are popular in Gujarat,
04:02and which are taught by the new youth?
04:04The dance that we perform is from Lucknow.
04:10Our guru has taught it to the gurus of Lucknow.
04:13But the dance of Lucknow and Jaipur,
04:16both these types of dances are now popular in Gujarat.
04:21So, we cannot say that there is only one dance of Gharana.
04:27But one thing is very true,
04:30that the demarcation of Gharana has become very fused.
04:35Some Gharana dancers from Jaipur
04:38perform Kathak and Lucknow Gharana dances,
04:43and some Gharana dancers from Lucknow
04:45perform Jaipur and Bolo dances.
04:48So, the demarcation has become less.
04:51Because the dance has become decentralized.
04:56There is no dance from one place.
04:58There is no dance in Delhi,
05:00there is no dance in North India.
05:02There is dance in Ahmedabad,
05:04there is dance in Kolkata,
05:06there is dance in Bangalore in the South,
05:08there is dance in Kathak, there is dance in Chennai.
05:10So, the place where a person performs,
05:13the cultural influence of that place
05:17has to be given.
05:19So, the demarcation of Gharana has become less.
05:24But we can call it the Gharana of Lucknow.
05:29So, the question is,
05:31the founder of Saptak,
05:33who has been performing Saptak for the last 30 years,
05:35Pandit Jhaki Roshan,
05:37he was also coming.
05:39So, both of you were not present.
05:43So, what did you feel as an artist?
05:45Pujya Manju Bhai,
05:49we had such a deep cultural connection,
05:54that she was part of our family.
05:57It's a great loss.
05:59Not only professionally,
06:01but personally also,
06:03it is a great loss.
06:05Her personality was also such,
06:07that she had a lot of flaws.
06:11She had her own contribution,
06:15and it had a big impact on my personal life.
06:22And what can I say about Ustad Sakhir Hussain Khasaab?
06:26He was the greatest musician in the world.
06:30Tal Samrat.
06:32He also had a very happy personality.
06:37He used to get along with everyone.
06:40And he used to come to Saptak every year.
06:43We know that he used to come to Saptak every year.
06:47And when he used to come,
06:49people used to gather here.
06:51People used to come to meet him.
06:54He had a star value.
06:57He was a very learned tabla player.
07:01But his star value was also great.
07:04So, he had a lot of flaws,
07:07in the world of music.