"Negotiations Led by Bushra Bibi," Mazhar Abbas Comments on Mohammad Malik's Report
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00:00Negotiations are being held by either Ms. Bushra or by Ms. Ghalwan Bushra.
00:08I have an interesting news.
00:10It is being seriously thought that they can get one commission and that is on May 9th.
00:19This is still a thought and not a decision and I understand the reasons behind it.
00:25May be because this is the accused in May 9th and 26th is a different case.
00:34Do you think there can be a development in the third commission or third seating?
00:41If there is an indication that we can talk about it.
00:45Because in detail in my program yesterday, Mr. Rana Sinawala gave reasons.
00:49He said that it is not a question of commission.
00:52They should tell us the TORs, what will be the framing of the commission,
00:56what will be the TORs if the judge agrees.
00:59Tell us the name.
01:00I said that the name of the judge you will not even let him become the Chief Justice.
01:03Then why will they tell us the name of the judge?
01:05So there were a lot of nitty-gritty talks going on.
01:08Similarly, in the opinion of the prisoners, they said that they should give us a list,
01:12tell us how they are differentiating criminal cases, political cases, whatever.
01:18But Mr. Khan had a tampered reaction today.
01:23That talks should take place and you should go and give a written statement.
01:28But along with that, he also said in his typical style that if this does not happen,
01:32then there will be no meeting after that.
01:34Are these negotiations linked with any other negotiations?
01:39Do you think this is really going on independently?
01:43Yes, thank you sir.
01:45See, I wanted to talk about what we wanted to do before the program started,
01:49that the Ministry of Information…
01:51Leave that, we will do it again.
01:53Declared a strategic institution.
01:56Let's be afraid of the day when the media will be declared a strategic institution.
02:01But what you are saying…
02:04In that case, you will have to hang yourself.
02:08Don't do this, for God's sake, don't do this.
02:12The second thing, see, the simple thing is that what you were talking about,
02:18I was very surprised by two things from Mr. Khan's statement.
02:22On the one hand, he is telling his negotiations team to go and do the third round,
02:27it is a good thing, and give it in writing as well.
02:30But I am saying this to Kalbi Kaldochan that in this,
02:34I do not understand the core issue in the demands of the PTI,
02:38because of which all this chaos has arisen.
02:41And that is 8th February.
02:43So have you surrendered from 8th February?
02:46Is 8th February no longer your core issue?
02:50And your core issue has only been that it is important,
02:55but I think it should be linked to it.
02:58Because the real thing is that your fight,
03:01since the government of Shahbaz Sharif for 16 months,
03:04and after that, after 8th February,
03:07it is all about your mandate.
03:09So from this whole struggle, the mandate has disappeared,
03:12that our mandate should be returned.
03:14I will share a news with you.
03:16The problem is that I had kept some news in different programs,
03:20one by one,
03:22now you have asked a question like this,
03:24so I will have to share this news with you.
03:26One thing that is also being discussed,
03:28that for PTI,
03:30this facility can also be obtained,
03:32that the tribunals,
03:34those tribunals decide quickly.
03:37Look, it is going to be a year,
03:39only 27% of the cases have been decided.
03:41There is a limit of 180 days that your decisions should be made.
03:44So it has been a long time since 6 months.
03:46So only 27% cases have been made,
03:48in the whole area of Punjab.
03:50And this is also being messaged,
03:52that it is guaranteed that the big names of PMLN,
03:57their decisions will be fair,
04:00no one will influence them.
04:02Now imagine,
04:04if Nawazim's decision is on the seat of Lahore,
04:08that he has lost,
04:10then what is the need to talk about 8th February?
04:12That is what is called a cut in Punjabi.
04:15So there are way outs.
04:17If the election is not happening,
04:19then some other things are happening.
04:21Sir, this means that
04:23the above level discussions that are taking place,
04:27which we can see in front of us,
04:30these are not actually discussions.
04:33Discussions are taking place,
04:35which either Bushra Bibi is doing,
04:37because today this is also a surprising thing,
04:40that she said,
04:42although he often speaks publicly,
04:44that he does not reveal his identity.
04:46But today if he is saying this,
04:48that whatever Bushra Bibi is doing,
04:50she is doing it for her own self.
04:52So this to me,
04:54that other thing about Begum Butto,
04:56or Urso Nawaz,
04:58if it is seen in that context,
05:00then it is a different thing.
05:02But in that,
05:04what were the results of what the women did in the past?
05:07Begum Butto,
05:09which Ghulam Mustafa Jatoohi Sahib told me,
05:11that in front of Begum Butto,
05:13when she had put this condition,
05:15that I am going to meet General Zia,
05:18I need your approval,
05:21and that was a Turkish formula.
05:23But Begum Butto said,
05:25I have no objection, but he will not agree.
05:28Now here the issue,
05:30when Kulthum Nawaz Sahiba met,
05:32and then she met,
05:34the result of that was seen later.
05:36The agreement of 2000 was seen in that.
05:38Now here,
05:40this means that Imran Khan Sahib
05:42is telling his people to go and negotiate,
05:45and actual negotiations are taking place elsewhere,
05:47and they are probably negotiating as well.
05:49So this thing,
05:51within PTI,
05:53is very disturbing.
05:55What is happening?
05:57What is the response of the government on this?
05:59The government is mishandling a lot of things,
06:02and the way in which
06:04Rana S.A.W. is saying something,
06:06Ayaz Sadiq is saying something,
06:08I don't think that
06:10the negotiations that are visible,
06:13these negotiations will be proven
06:15to be successful.
06:17I don't see these negotiations being successful.
06:19Whatever will happen,
06:21will be a backdoor.
06:23If there is any relaxation in the agreement,
06:25then it will be a backdoor.
06:27And it will obviously take some time.
06:29And these negotiations,
06:31I don't think these negotiations
06:33are going too far.
06:35Because the Judicial Commission
06:37will be formed on one thing,
06:39and what will be its scope?
06:41It will be formed under the Inquiry of Commission.
06:43Its scope is very limited.