PTI Founder Knows the Establishment Will Never Let Him Return." Hafeezullah Niazi
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00:00Mr. Pradhan, the issue is that there is a group of experts,
00:04who are very clear in their work,
00:08and the other political parties are also very clear in their work.
00:12They have so many contradictions, internal contradictions,
00:17as to what a person should do.
00:18You have seen that the committee that has been formed,
00:23they say that it has been made as a voluntary committee.
00:29There was an uproar, and Mr. Khan made a committee and presented it.
00:34At that time, no one had any doubts about the negotiations.
00:39There were hundreds of doubts that the negotiations were going to happen,
00:41will happen, should happen or not.
00:44And Mr. Imran Khan had only one right,
00:46that I will negotiate with the Association.
00:48Actually, there is a background to this as well.
00:51You must have seen that when Imran Khan left power on 10th April, 2022,
00:56he launched a campaign against Association.
01:01Then I saw that when Imran Khan met Bajwa for the second time,
01:08he admitted it himself.
01:10And there were three meetings.
01:13And Imran Khan took all three meetings by force.
01:17So I ask many times, did Imran Khan meet there to fix the marriage of the children?
01:22And what did he want?
01:24Was it a matter of guilt?
01:26He must have wanted to bring him back.
01:30Why did he fire me?
01:32This is the situation.
01:34Why did he fire me?
01:36I don't understand that someone is bluffing.
01:42Association is definitely bluffing.
01:44Mr. Imran Khan has understood that Association will never let him come.
01:50Association will never let him come close to his demands.
01:55In this negotiation process,
01:57Mr. Niali, can anyone come out of this?
02:02Or do you think there is a problem?
02:05I think there is a problem.
02:08First of all, the negotiations that Imran Khan and the opposition are doing,
02:13they must have agreed to some extent.
02:16And then the committees were formed.
02:18For example, on the 26th of January,
02:21I say that PTI and Imran Khan were both on board.
02:25And whether to vote or not is not important to me.
02:28I know that in the entire amendment,
02:31they were all with him,
02:33step by step.
02:35And after the negotiations,
02:37there was a continuity,
02:39continuity,
02:41that the amendment was done in front of you,
02:44and you started the negotiations happily.
02:47So, there were negotiations.
02:49But in the negotiations,
02:51Mr. Imran Khan,
02:52the last thing,
02:53I think I should wind up,
02:55Mr. Imran Khan,
02:57he has come to know that
03:01the public opinion is with him.
03:05Right.
03:06And this is not a good omen for our institutions.
03:10That the public opinion of Imran Khan
03:12has been incited against him.
03:15Now, they want that
03:17at least I get something or not.
03:20But I will make this life so difficult for them in Pakistan
03:25that the system,
03:27in some way,
03:28the country's political stability,
03:31it should not be brought close to it.
03:32Then I will become impotent.
03:33Okay.
03:34This is your opinion.
03:35Okay.
03:37No, no.
03:38I am dying.
03:39Yes, I am drowning.
03:41But in some way,
03:42I will drown them in front of me.
03:45We are drowning, Sanam.
03:47We will drown you too.
03:49You too.
03:50Okay.
03:51Mr. Kazmi,
03:52please explain this.
03:53Then I will ask Mr. Anand.
03:54If it is like this,
03:56that the establishment
03:57is not in the mood to give any relief at the moment.
03:59If not,
04:00then why is the session of negotiations
04:02decorated?
04:03And if the session of negotiations
04:05is decorated,
04:06then why is it so strict
04:07that they are not even meeting
04:08after agreeing to the agreement.
04:09Please explain this.
04:11As you just said,
04:13the problem is not solved.
04:15Yes.
04:16So, the success of these negotiations
04:17is also in line with bringing the lion's share.
04:19Subhanallah.
04:20Then again,
04:21then again,
04:22there will be political disagreement.
04:24You will see,
04:25after some time,
04:26nothing will come out of these negotiations.
04:28And to be honest,
04:29look,
04:30And maybe this future will be near,
04:31this scenario that you are telling.
04:33Yes, yes.
04:34Yes, yes.
04:35Then we will see posters
04:36all over the country
04:37with different kinds of slogans.
04:39Our issue is that,
04:41Mr. Badami,
04:42the problem here is that,
04:43look,
04:44from both sides,
04:45it seems that
04:46this thing is realized
04:48that perhaps these negotiations
04:49will not be successful.
04:50That is,
04:51as you were talking
04:52to Mr. Rahul Fasan,
04:53and he was again
04:54announcing this thing
04:55that they have nothing
04:56to give us.
04:57Yes,
04:58he was saying it
04:59in two words.
05:00If there is nothing,
05:01then why are you engaging with them?
05:03This is a big question.
05:04In the same way,
05:05if you talk to the government.
05:06In other words,
05:07he says that
05:08we are actually engaging
05:09with the establishment
05:10through a puppet show.
05:11That's what he says.
05:12Yes, yes, yes.
05:13Absolutely.
05:14So if this is a puppet show,
05:15then what is the guarantee
05:16that they will go there
05:17and deliver the right message?
05:18So there are a lot of questions in this.
05:19On the other hand,
05:20if you look at the government,
05:21then first they said
05:22that yes,
05:23there will be a meeting,
05:24they will also introduce
05:25Mr. Khan.
05:26Now,
05:27the situation after that,
05:28the current situation,
05:29looking at that,
05:30it seems that
05:31Mr. Badami
05:32should be jailed
05:33manually
05:34in this country.
05:35Because
05:36there is no
05:37implementation
05:38on the law here.
05:39If anything
05:40is being implemented
05:41in this country,
05:42then it is being implemented
05:43on the jail manual.
05:44If there is anything,
05:45the government says
05:46that if the jail manual
05:47allows it,
05:48then we will do it.
05:49When it suits you,
05:50then you get a meeting
05:51on the day off
05:52in the jail.
05:53So I think
05:54that for some reason
05:55it seems like
05:56an exercise right now.
05:57Okay.
05:58And both of their eyes
05:59may be on the scenarios
06:00of the coming days
06:01and you know
06:02that I am moving
06:03towards America.
06:04The 20th of this month
06:05is important
06:06in this regard.
06:07Yes,
06:08absolutely.
06:09So,
06:10I think
06:11both are
06:12buying time
06:13and seeing
06:14what the situation
06:15becomes.