Giants won and now the Pats hold pick #1 (if season ended today). Should they keep the pick or trade it? Travis Hunter? What is their greatest need?
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00:00But the silver lining, Wiggy, to all of that is that now you sit very nicely in the position of
00:06if you lose to Buffalo next weekend, you get the number one overall pick. So my starting point
00:13with this is what should their plan against Buffalo be to ensure the loss? Is that how
00:18you're feeling or is there anything to play for for a win? There is nothing to play for
00:25for a win. As a Pats fan, you probably know this better than anything years past. Granted,
00:30organization has changed. But if you have the opportunity to have the number one overall pick,
00:38why would you want to piss that away? Why would you want to? And I get it,
00:46the players are going to go out there and play and everything. But as an organization,
00:52I don't think really, you know, it's not like you don't have to really try to do much.
00:56Do you think there's any tension between the coaching staff where basically everybody's
01:01sitting there seats hot, whether you're a coordinator, whether you're a position coach,
01:05whether you're the head coach, I would think after the calamity to quote NFL media that you
01:11saw on Saturday, is there any tension between ownership saying, can you put something good
01:16against a divisional opponent? Or do you think ownership is like, just wave the white flag here
01:21to because we want the pick? I think I think ownership's probably doing what you know, what
01:31I don't want, I wouldn't say most fans, but I think ownership's probably saying,
01:34all right, go out there, play hard, try to get the win. But if you don't, you know what,
01:40at least we got the number one overall pick. I think that's probably what ownership is doing.
01:46Because it's hard to wave the white flag when you're this bad of a team, right? So
01:52what if they go out and they say, let's have Joe Milton play? Let's start.
01:58Yeah, you have to go like, that would be that would no offense to Joe Milton,
02:02but he's been the emergency quarterback. So that would be ensuring you're getting right.
02:07And that would be the extreme, right? You look over at Buffalo, they're sitting Josh Allen,
02:12and they're playing Trubisky and all backups, then you turn and you go, our team is already
02:17basically backups outside of the quarterback and one cornerback, right? So we're gonna play
02:22Joe Milton, right? Then that would you be you would that would be you basically publicly saying
02:29to us as fans, all right, we're doing everything in our power to try to lose the game without
02:36actually going out there and knowing like, you know, you're actually taking a dive,
02:41you're basically saying we're going to put guys in a position that it's going to be extremely
02:45difficult for us to win the football game. I don't think they're going to go that extreme,
02:50because you're already a bad team. And do you even think even if Buffalo starts,
02:57which they really have nothing to play for now that I kind of looked at their record,
03:01they got the two seats, they got the two seat locked up because they got three losses in
03:04Baltimore's at the three seat and they have five five. So even if they lost another game,
03:09they'd still be in the two seat. So where Buffalo would be like, all right,
03:14Trubisky is their backup, correct? All right, we'll play Trubisky, you know, we'll probably
03:19play some of the other guys. It's like you're not going to sit all of your ones, you're still going
03:23to play some of these guys. And do you have the confidence that you can even beat that team?
03:29I don't necessarily have that type of confidence. No, you couldn't you couldn't beat Miami,
03:36right with Snoop Huntley, right? So why would you think that you could be Mitchell Trubisky,
03:41right? So you got now at this point in the season where it seems like you will ask dry mail about
03:47this. Daniel Quale told Andrew Callahan of the Boston Herald after the game that he saw guys
03:51quit, right? So like, that's the state of your team. So I don't think you have to do like I
03:57don't think there's this like crazy thing that you have to do to put ensure that you give yourself
04:04the best chance to lose and I think what you'll probably see is maybe here's how you see it
04:08without really them going out there and doing the Joe Milton thing. Gonzalez doesn't play
04:15because he's he's probably not going to anyway, right? So he would he would be a definite you
04:20know what, we're not even gonna see if he could potentially go he's done for the season, right?
04:26And then there are other guys that might be dealing with some type of potential things that
04:31they could be nicked up that you go, you know what, he's better than the guy we got. So if we
04:37said him, that would ensure that all right, it would be a lot harder for us to win the football
04:44game. Because if if you're if if you're the crafts, you have to be saying why not get the number one
04:54overall pick because you could go by winning this football game. You could go from number one to
05:02who the hell knows number six, number seven, number five. And that is like a massive jump in the sense
05:09that what you'd be able to do is the number one overall pick versus the number five when you know
05:17that you already have the quarterback. So if I if I'm the owner of this team, and we lose,
05:24I'm now seeing, okay, how much can we get from a team that wants to move up to number one to get
05:30their quarterback, right? So you are actually in a great position looking at the draft because you
05:35have Drake may so thank God you got the quarterback, and you feel confident enough in him
05:40that now these other teams that are falling out of the number one spot might be somewhere two, three
05:47further down are scrambling to try to get Cam Ward or Shador Sanders, right? Maybe, maybe they
05:53want Hunter, I don't know. I don't know specifically who else would want him. You don't know if he's a
05:57cornerback or a wide receiver. He's just an incredible talent, right? Like incredible all
06:01around athlete football player. But I don't think that if there I don't really see a scenario for
06:07not trading back. Like you got you got to trade back because if you don't go for the quarterback,
06:12there's no reason to be using that pick. Yeah. And if you're, if you're, if you're, if you're
06:16the Patriots, like you said, you have the guy. And for us, we have more valuable value in trading down
06:26because even, even with Travis Hunter, right, you know, I see a lot of things like Travis Hunter
06:31going to the Patriots. I think he's, and Dion has said this, and I don't know, you know, Dion says a
06:37lot of things. I don't know how accurate it is, but Travis Hunter, my opinion, if I was advising
06:45him, I'd say, listen, play wide receiver. I'd say play wide receiver. Let every NFL team know that
06:50you want to be a wide receiver. You're going to work on your routes and you're going to just
06:53polish to become one of the best wide receivers in the game. I would be like, don't play corner
06:59because wide receivers make a lot more than cornerbacks make, right? So that's what I would
07:05be advising him for. You're not going to find a team that's going to say, all right, Travis,
07:10you can play both. And they might say, hey, we'll sprinkle, we'll sprinkle you in every now and then,
07:16excuse me, but you're not going to play both. What like Dion says, he wants to go someplace
07:21where he's going to play both. That's not happening. I don't think that's realistic.
07:25And look, as nice as it sounds to, hey, you get a two for one deal. You see, it's not one for one.
07:31This guy's tiny, but Marcus Jones trying to play in every unit. And what happens? He gets injured
07:36every season. He's a small guy, but it's just not realistic in today's NFL.
07:40When's the last time we've seen in today's NFL where a guy went both ways? I played with
07:45Champ Bailey. Champ was Travis Hunter before he, Travis Hunter was Travis Hunter, right?
07:53And even with Charles Woodson, I don't know how much he played on offense,
07:59but I don't think he played as much as Champ played on offense. When Champ was playing 120
08:04plays down at Georgia when we were teammates, because he was playing just as many plays on
08:09offense as he was on defense. When is the last time you've seen a guy play kind of both ways
08:17consistently? It's not happening. So Travis, I think his best decision is where can I take
08:24advantage and probably potentially make the most money for me as a player? And if you look at it,
08:30he's a great athlete. You can polish him up to run routes. Put him at wide receiver.
08:36All right. We got a bunch of phone calls here. We've got full line. So I'm going to try to
08:40knock some of these out. We're going to be joined by Dryden Mayo in about an hour. Let's start with
08:46Keith in the truck on number four, Jackson. Keith wants to talk about a potential draft trade,
08:52if I'm correct. So I was talking to a buddy yesterday. We were just going over some draft
08:57positions at number one. And I was thinking about the guys who would want to move up for quarterback.
09:03I was thinking for the Raiders to trade number one for Max Crosby. You'd obviously go from like
09:09one to eight and then maybe get a second round pick as well. What do you guys think about that,
09:15grabbing Max number eight and then a second round? I think you can get Max Crosby for a second round
09:21pick. I don't even think you have to give up a first round pick for a guy like Max Crosby.
09:26You wouldn't lose your first round because you'd move from one to eight. So you'd switch the one
09:30to eight and then get into a second rounder in Crosby. Maybe something else, maybe a third or
09:36fourth as well. I would say this. If I'm moving down from one, I want another first round pick.
09:42Thank you, Keith. So if I'm moving down from one, I want another first round pick.
09:48And then what do you do with that, Wiggy? You told me out there what you want to do with that.
09:54What do you want to do with that trade machine, Wiggy?
09:58I went on one day, I called into Jones and Keith and they were doing,
10:04you got 60 seconds to fix the Patriots. What would you do? I would trade down number one,
10:10pick up an extra first round draft pick. And then I would call up Cincinnati and say,
10:16how many number ones is it going to take for-
10:20Your number one.
10:20No, no.
10:21For Jamar Chase, your number one receiver.
10:24For your number one.
10:24For your WR one.
10:26Yeah. I'm willing to give you two first round draft picks, another first round draft pick,
10:33maybe down the road. Would that get me Jamar Chase? And then I would use my second round pick
10:39to call the Raiders and see if they will and want to give up Max Crosby.
10:43So that's what I would do in my world. I would do everything in my power to see if Cincinnati
10:50is stupid enough to say, okay, give us three first round picks and we'll give you Jamar Chase
10:57because I'll do that all day long.
10:59And this is why you got to roll out Joe Milton on Sunday.
11:02Yeah.
11:03Like give Drake the day off.
11:04You cannot, you cannot. And I'm with you as a fan right now.
11:08I know. They're not going to do it. They're going to, if they're playing Drake in the
11:12end of that fourth quarter, they're playing Drake on Sunday.
11:15No, they're obviously going to play him. But I mean, it's just you don't like,
11:20because this was something that happened with the Giants that they were talking about.
11:23Like the Giants winning that game.
11:26So goofy.
11:27Winning that game yesterday, basically knocked them out of the first overall pick, right?
11:34So there's a team that might want to get back up. What are they willing to give you to get?
11:38Because it's rarely when you look at the quarterback draft this year.
11:41Give them day ball. Do a coach trade.
11:44When you look at the, when you look at the quarterback position in this year's NFL draft,
11:48it's really Shador Sanders and Cam Ward. And maybe that's a stretch. Like does anybody,
11:56is there any hype around even one of those quarterbacks that there has been like in
12:01years past the boat, you know, whether it was last year with Caleb Williams,
12:05a couple of years ago with Trevor Lawrence. So it's like, there's not the hype, like,
12:09oh, those dudes. And I'm not saying they won't be, but there's not that hype of like,
12:13these guys are going to be superstar franchise.
12:16They don't even have the hype of Jaden Daniels. Like this time last year,
12:19Jaden was skyrocketing because of the Heisman. And you look at it and you go, whoa,
12:24could Jaden actually be the number two pick? And he was, but there was so much hype around him.
12:29Right, right. So you don't have that with you probably don't. You could probably throw
12:33Drake main in that conversation. So you don't have that. But as a team desperate enough,
12:38whether it's the Giants, because right now, if you look at it, Tennessee has the second overall
12:44pick in Cleveland. Do you think Tennessee or Cleveland would be interested in trading up
12:54to number one to get a quarterback? I mean, I think that they should.
12:59I'm not saying that they should, but do you think they would be? Tennessee has the kid Will Levis
13:04that they use the second round pick to maybe draft him and Cleveland just restructured
13:09Deshaun Watson's contract. So do you think that those two teams are as desperate to move up to
13:16number one as let's say the Giants? No, I don't think so. I think the Giants are in a rougher
13:22position where you could see because of the Deshaun Watson restructuring Cleveland going out and trying
13:27to get some like bridge mercenary quarterback the way that Atlanta did. And then Atlanta weirdly
13:33signed I mean, drafted pennant. But you I see that more going out trying to sign a professional
13:38quarterback or and also so then that would be leave me to think like, based on just looking
13:43at like the top 10. You have the Giants at four and Vegas at eight. Those look like they're the
13:49two most desperate teams for a quarterback. And how much would they be willing to give up to move
13:55up to number one? Right? So if they're willing to give up a lot to move up to number one,
14:02this potentially opens the door for you to stockpile some picks that you could my fantasy
14:09world and I know it's a fantasy and you'd have to pay him which I would have no problem paying
14:13Jamar chase. But my fantasy world would be call of Cincinnati and he would be the first guy on
14:19the list to see if they're Cincinnati would be willing. I'd give up. I'd give up three first
14:24round picks with Jamar chase GM wiki. He's working it. He's working in already. We're not sure if the
14:30Patriots will definitely have a number one overall. What would I do? I am so incredibly
14:35boring. I would trade back and take one of these tackles. I think you have to I understand you
14:40have to package if you can if you can get another first round and trade world I'm giving you I know
14:47but we can't watch this offensive line anymore. You can get free agent line. Everybody says that
14:53every season you end up with chooks a quarter place. But what I'm saying is if you went down
14:58this road this fantasy world, you would have the ability to say, okay, we're gonna we're gonna
15:04sign some good veteran free agent lineman. That's what I'm saying. This is your fantasy fantasy
15:12that I'm going to do what you said, but for Justin Jefferson, but it's it's not it's fantasy.
15:18But what a little bit of reality touched on it because Jamar chase, they haven't given him a
15:24contract so they could potentially entertain that the Minnesota Vikings are already paid
15:30Justin Jefferson. So even though it's like fantasy wish list, it's still stuff that could potentially
15:36happen Cincinnati could easily say we'll give you three first round. We'll take three first
15:41round picks for Jamar. They didn't want to pay him anyways. Maybe they still don't want to make
15:46up make them the second highest paid receiver in the NFL and they'll say you know what we'll give
15:50you Jamar. We'll keep Teddy Higgins. Our quarterbacks good enough. We're picking up
15:55extra draft picks. We can go out and draft another first round guy. So it's fantasy,
16:01but there's a little bit of reality touch like to Justin Jefferson. They already paid him. Yeah. So
16:05when I say you could potentially get good veteran alignment and free agency, you could do that
16:12because you have the money. What if you take three first round picks and Christian Gonzalez
16:17and you trade them to Minnesota for Kevin O'Connell?