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00:00Khawaja Saad Rafiq sahab took your name and we asked him how can we call you.
00:04He said that you look like one of those intelligent people.
00:08Khawaja sahab was saying that we should sit and talk.
00:11Then later Rana Sanaw Allah sahab also put Imran Khan, Zardari, Nawaz Sharif's name in it.
00:17At present, the negotiations between the government and the opposition,
00:21is their direction correct? Is their intention correct?
00:23Or at least we should agree on this that thank God that someone is talking.
00:29Talking is a good thing but I don't see any solution in this.
00:33Because the government and the opposition have a forum which is the parliament.
00:41You can talk in the parliament about whatever you want to do.
00:44What is the need to go out and negotiate in this?
00:48If you want to talk about the country and the issues of the country,
00:51then you can do it in the parliament.
00:53The government and the opposition are a team in this matter.
00:59So I don't understand what they will talk about and what they will get.
01:04If you look inside the government, there are so many groupings.
01:07Some say that there should be no talks because if there are talks…
01:11These are strange matters but there is no doubt that
01:16there is a division in the country between the opposition and the government.
01:27There is a need to end this.
01:29What is the difference between talking in the parliament and through this committee?
01:32We have seen this in the past as well.
01:34Committees have talked about big issues because the representation is of those parties
01:37who are sitting in the parliament.
01:39So what will be the difference on the floor of the parliament
01:41which committees cannot do among themselves?
01:43The committees are given the power to talk about specific issues.
01:49If you want to talk about the issues of the country in general,
01:53then the parliament is the forum for that.
01:55You can talk in the committee as well. I have no objection.
01:57But in this way, the issues are not resolved.
01:59Today, there is a clear divide in the government's thinking and the opposition.
02:07The government says that you have committed a crime and we will put you in jail.
02:11The government says that the elections are fine and we will sit on the chair.
02:15Imran Khan's position is that we should release Imran Khan,
02:19end this case and rectify the election theft.
02:23This is such a big issue that how will you bridge it?
02:27What Saad Rafiq has said has weight in it.
02:31A third party can bridge this issue.
02:33Who will be the third party?
02:36The people who are neither with the opposition nor with the government
02:40will play the role of bridging this issue.
02:43How will they do it? What will be their right?
02:45They will meet everyone.
02:47They will play the role of a mediator.
02:53They will listen here and there.
02:55A third party is also in the country.
02:57You have to include them as well as the judiciary.
03:02You have to talk to everyone and find a solution to this issue.
03:05You have to believe that this is not the way the country is running.
03:09This is not possible.
03:11You have to remove this hypocrisy.
03:13You have to rebuild some trust in the political system.
03:17What does the establishment want?
03:20What does the judiciary want?
03:22You have to reconcile all these issues.
03:26You have to rebuild trust.
03:28Let's discuss party to party.
03:30How can the government rebuild trust?
03:32They will be more responsible.
03:34The government will have to step back from its stance.
03:38There is no doubt that this government is the result of a manipulated election.
03:44They don't follow the mandate of the people.
03:47They don't even have a good performance.
03:50If you look at the performance of the government,
03:54you will see what laws they have made.
03:56For the first time, there was a shooting in Darul Akhbar.
03:59People died.
04:01You have to step back from all these stances.
04:05You have to talk about the country.
04:08We have to talk about the country.
04:10The relief that a person or a community gets,
04:14or a position is supported or denied,
04:17that is secondary.
04:19It will come out of the same solution.
04:21When you find a solution to the problems of the country,
04:24For example, the biggest need of Pakistan today is reform.
04:27You have to decide the agenda of reform.
04:30You have to try to implement it.
04:32When you discuss the modalities of implementation,
04:36you will get the relief of all these issues.
04:40The government will have to step back from its stance.
04:43The government and the opposition will have to find a way.
04:46If the government steps back from its stance,
04:48what will be left for them?
04:50There is no politics.
04:52If the government steps back from its stance,
04:54the weak government will also lose.
04:56It is a matter of political survival.
04:58It is not a matter of political survival.
05:00I am not saying that you should leave the seats.
05:02You have the strength of your seats.
05:04Step back from it.
05:06The country is not running because of you.
05:08You have to admit this.
05:10Look at the differences in the ruling coalition.
05:12What did Bilawal Bhutto say yesterday?
05:14There is a clear fracture in the ruling coalition.
05:18How will the country run?
05:20When we talk about running the country,
05:22we will find a way to run the country.
05:24We will include the opposition.
05:26From there, you will get a solution to the political problems of the country.
05:30The government will have to step back from its stance.
05:33The opposition will also have to step back from its stance.
05:35The opposition will also have to step back.
05:37The government should accept this mandate.
05:40Let this system run.
05:42Let it run on a mid-term election.
05:44For now, don't bother.
05:46This is what the government wants.
05:48No, no.
05:50You should also be a part of the reform process.
05:52This is what the country needs.
05:54Mr. Imran Khan,
05:56the PTI is only talking about the release of Imran Khan.
06:00There is no demand for him.
06:02This election is wrong.
06:04I have no doubt about this.
06:06Elections have been stolen in the country.
06:08But if you keep this agenda
06:10and put it on the negotiating table
06:12that first solve this issue,
06:14then there will be negotiations.
06:16But the PTI is the number one party.
06:18This is what leadership demands.
06:20Leadership demands that
06:22you give a secondary status to these issues.
06:26You give the real status to the country's affairs.
06:30You sit down to solve the country's affairs.
06:32You don't sit down to solve the issues
06:34of who is in jail,
06:36who put him in jail,
06:38why he was put in jail,
06:40how he was put in jail.
06:42You give a secondary status to this issue.
06:44When you find a solution to this,
06:46you will find a solution to all these issues.