👉 Alejandro Pata se suicida en medio de un ambiente de estupor y conmoción. Pata era un colaborador clave en la búsqueda de Loan peña, era quien ayudaba a la familia del menor en la búsqueda y utilizaba su camioneta para trasladarlos a donde la familia necesitara. Su muerte deja un vacío significativo en la investigación.
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00:00also and share with Marcelo Chulo Benítez, a journalist who also had a relationship with
00:05Alejandro Pata, with Méndez. Tell me how is the atmosphere, Marcelo, after all this and this
00:12stupor and emotion in La Querella, because he is a key collaborator, the one who left in the worst
00:17way, shooting himself in the heart. They also tell me, overwhelmed by certain pressures that I
00:24don't know if they were real or psychological, a certain aura of persecution that he had. What
00:30can you tell me, Marcelo Chulo Benítez? How are you, Pablo? A pleasure to be able to talk to you.
00:37The same. Actually, what you were telling is from the first moment. The one who knows the most,
00:44unfortunately, left us, along with Méndez. And the times that I have accompanied him,
00:54don't have any doubts, Pablo. We were there from the first moment and we knew that all this,
01:02what is happening now in vain, you just said it, because we know that they take him away from us.
01:11It was the great dilemma. First of all, I want to say this, he is Alejandro Pata,
01:19he is not Alejandro Pata Mendoza, the last name is Pata. Very well, the correction, perfect. Yes, because in some
01:26media, that's why I also reproduced the mistake, until now I have not called him that, but I saw that,
01:30I thought it was a second last name. Many media put him as Alejandro Pata Mendoza,
01:36he is not Alejandro Pata, he is from Buenos Aires. Let's see, you tell me, Marcelo, this is important,
01:45because for us he was also a man who knew a lot, who had contact with the press.
01:51Also, Pablo, you say it well, he had everything on his cell phone, he recorded everything, he had everything,
02:02he called me, he told me, look, I have this, look, I have the other, see if we can get this out,
02:06see if we can get the other out. After he gives some notes, I have several notes with him,
02:13because he was constantly on my show, but without a doubt, he knew everything, absolutely everything,
02:23he knew everyone, and he had that mission, to know everyone, and he loved him, but he loved him,
02:32the father of Lohan José, my old man, I told him, I'm going to look for him, I'm going to look for my old man,
02:39ask him if he has the opportunity to talk to him.
02:42Yes, in fact, I am writing to José, because today, since the lawyer spoke with the press,
02:49I am asking him if we can make some contact with José, son, we always had a good relationship with José,
02:55son, of course with José, father too, María, I don't know her that much, but we went to meet this whole family,
03:02even a family that has been under suspicion, you have to say it, but he, I say Pata, Alejandro Pata,
03:10always trusted them and always accompanied them, completely disinterested in his company.
03:16He really had a lot of confidence, a lot of confidence in José, in the family, in the whole Lohan family,
03:26he loved that family, he loved them, he loved them, you don't know how much he was distressed when they spoke badly of him,
03:31he loved him, he loved Mendes a lot, he loved him, I know, he loved Mendes a lot, Mendes too.
03:40And what happened?
03:42Then there was that situation, even, how?
03:45What happened, Marcelo, what happened that two who love each other so much, who are friends,
03:49who are in a fight, practically, of their own accord.
03:53He saw it, he saw it with his own eyes.
03:55A little bit, a little bit, you don't love each other that much, come on.
03:59I don't know, I don't know.
04:00No, but wait, if I love you, Pablo, and you love me, and we stop walking together,
04:05and we can't overcome any conflict that has been born from walking together looking for Lohan,
04:12and some of the two don't love each other that much.
04:14Interesting, Fito's look, tell me Marcelo.
04:18Yes, it may be, it may be that one always wants more than the other.
04:22Yes, of course.
04:23I have no doubt that it is like that.
04:25But he loved him a lot, until the end, he was very distressed by that fight.
04:34He told me that as soon as other people began to approach him,
04:40and he no longer had that role of carrying him, of bringing him, of speaking,
04:45it is as if they were taking him out of what is the part of the most private conversations
04:52that he probably had, because I later, I explained a lot to people,
04:58I put together practically all the part that had to do with the videos, with the reports,
05:03he consulted me a lot because I was in the media, obviously, right?
05:06He told me, look, I don't know this, look, film this, film like this, film.
05:11And of course, that led, let's say that when, obviously, they begin to approach later,
05:19I don't say in this case, I don't know if it was Mendez, who was it, what happened, what happened.
05:25Now we are going to make you listen to it, Marcelo, wait, wait.
05:28Jealous?
05:29I stop you here.
05:30Jealous?
05:31Why not?
05:32I wanted to ask you.
05:33Why not?
05:34I stop you here.
05:35I stop you here, Marcelo.
05:36I'm going to tell you a story that you don't know, which are previous audios,
05:41of course, a few weeks ago, of this episode that so much moves those of us
05:48who have been following the Loan case from the beginning.
05:51Here we can find part of the explanation of what happened in that hearing,
05:58which finally ends up closing on itself after the meeting with Governor Gustavo Valdez,
06:05who was not in the government, but was at home with his wife and a large part of the family.
06:11There are photographs of this.
06:12Pablo, I'm going to stop you there.
06:13Go ahead.
06:14I say that for me, and I jump to the void once again,
06:17Valdez has nothing to do with the disappearance of the Loan.
06:20For me.
06:21Yes, yes.
06:22Nothing to do.
06:23Now.
06:24I didn't hear, I didn't hear.
06:26No, no, Fito says that for Fito, for Fito what?
06:29For him, Valdez has nothing to do with the disappearance of the Loan,
06:32which I also agree with.
06:33But.
06:34Valdez has nothing to do with the disappearance of the Loan.
06:35But.
06:36Wait, let me finish this.
06:37It has nothing to do.
06:38But.
06:39But.
06:40The government has nothing to do.
06:41Wait, wait, wait.
06:42Give me a minute.
06:43Absolutely nothing to do.
06:44Give me a minute because there is a but, there is a but.
06:45Marcelo.
06:46Marcelo.
06:47Give me a second.
06:48Yes.
06:49Wait, I have a but.
06:50A but.
06:51Yes.
06:52But.
06:53But.
06:54What happened in that talk between the parents of the Loan and Valdez,
06:57that from there they disappeared from the media,
07:01they never came again, they implored the support of the media,
07:06and today the investigation in the media continues in sporadic actions
07:12that we have because we want to continue looking for the Loan.
07:15But without their support.
07:16But without their support.
07:17Because we are going to say, the father and the wine came.
07:20In other words, it is not that today they are touring all the television channels,
07:24as at the beginning, and everything happened after that meeting with Valdez.
07:29What was it?
07:30What conditions did he put me in?
07:32You suspect.
07:33No, no.
07:34I don't need to go to China to know that there are Chinese.
07:36Let's see.
07:37Marcelo, give me a minute.
07:38Or do you want to answer this?
07:40Because it's a good question.
07:42What happened there at that meeting?
07:44Look, what I know and what I talked about with Ale,
07:51the distance between Ale and Mendes was exclusively due to the issue of the arrival.
08:00I have nothing to do with the expert, I don't know him.
08:03From Massei, when Pata told Mendes,
08:11Mendes, don't let someone else talk and don't be you,
08:17because you are the person who was there from the first moment,
08:20together with Alejandro.
08:25And we are letting other people come,
08:29and unfortunately they are leaving us aside and they are going to leave you aside,
08:35and we were fighting from the first moment.
08:38And he loved that group, he loved it a lot.
08:43The group of hunters.
08:45He was afflicted and the danger said it.
08:47I understand.
08:48When he spoke with you, he said it.
08:51He changed a lot from the moment of Lohan's disappearance
08:57to the moment when he got so involved in the case.
09:00But you have no idea what he got involved in the case.
09:03No, no, no.
09:04That's why I'm telling you, you're going to see in a little while how much he got involved
09:07and to what extent.
09:08I want to go back to Cecilia with that.
09:11We're still here, Marce.
09:13Please stay, I want you to listen to the audio.
09:15Your look is very important to me, because you were getting to know them.
09:19You got to know this whole journey from the beginning as a journalist.
09:22Give me a second, Marce.
09:24Pablo, I was in contact with Lohan practically every day.
09:28I know, I know.
09:29Every day.
09:30I know, and that's why we contacted you, because we know a lot about your journey.
09:36Let's see, Ceci.
09:37Are there any more operations going on there?
09:40Or did they already take down the Persian?
09:44No, Pablo.
09:45There are no more operations going on.
09:47The searches are over.
09:48As I told you at the beginning, four lagoons were searched between yesterday and today.
09:53Here, near the house of the grandmother in Paraje Algarrobal.
09:57And they gave negative results.
10:00The searches are over, and next week there will be statements
10:03in front of the Federal Judiciary of the Lohan cousins.
10:06Very good.
10:07On December 26 are the statements, Pablo.
10:10Very good.
10:11One day after Christmas, the statements and at the same time the arrival of the telephonic
10:15searches, the geolocations, and the accidental searches.
10:19Also thanks, Ceci Conesa, from there, from the Algarrobal passage.
10:23I greet you.
10:24Thanks to you and to the whole team there of A24 in the place.
10:29I want, with this urgent information, to continue this dialogue and putting ourselves
10:34to understand clearly what happened between this man who knew too much and appears
10:40with a shot in the chest, without autopsy, with family conflicts and many secrets
10:46apparently saved in video.
10:48Urgent information.
10:49Attention.
10:50For the first time you will hear here in this program the audios of Alejandro Pata explaining
11:05what happened, what cut the relationship with his friend Roberto Mendes, and at the same
11:16time why he had to move away from the Lohan family.
11:20First audio for you, go ahead.
11:22I don't have 30 million, Pepe, as I told you yesterday.
11:26I left on August 3rd, when I saw that the expert came and did not ask me, you know?
11:34And Mendes started to leave me aside, you know?
11:38I mean, he didn't call me.
11:41I went with Mendes to a group of hunters, and with him we walked elbow to elbow and
11:46we started to report Flor and Fauna for the atrocities and the barbarity they were doing.
11:51That's how I met Mendes, because he includes me, through a patient, he includes me in a
11:56group of hunters.
11:57Then a neighbor from Lohan came out, a very good friend of Mariano, who is in the group
12:03of hunters.
12:04He says, Che, why don't you help us look for him?
12:07He lost a baby here on July 9th.
12:09I am a hunter, I am in the group of fans, I am in the group of collaborators.
12:13And a policeman on the corner said, Che, look, we need people, huh?
12:16And well, we offered ourselves.
12:20What you are starting to hear is Alejandro Pata himself explaining to another person
12:25why he is starting to retire.
12:28And look, when a pedito came, who did not pedit, the noise began, right?
12:35What did you hear so far, Fito?
12:37Well, clear and forceful, the famous Rancho Aparte.
12:43The part of Laguita is still missing, you are right about that.
12:46Start the Rancho Aparte.
12:48They start making Rancho Aparte, Mendes and the pedito, and they start leaving him
12:55on his side.
12:56While the money was not there, he was already talking about 30 sticks.
13:01Sure, because they were asking him, Che, what happened?
13:04He said, I don't know.
13:06But while there was no money, Pata's truck was important.
13:11When the money starts to arrive, and third parties, they start chasing him.
13:17That is the first thing.
13:19The human condition in its maximum expression, at least part of it.
13:23Not everyone does everything, Purguita.
13:25In fact, Alejandro Pata, it must be said, evidently had gender violence problems
13:31with his family.
13:33Yes, it was not so much, on the one hand.
13:35One thing is one thing, another thing is another thing.
13:38Exactly, that is what we always have in this program.
13:40We say, look, he had problems, he was a violent of gender,
13:43the justice will tell you, the couples and so on.
13:45Here, disinterested, he began to look for Aloan.
13:49He put his truck, the money, even the fuel, and also...
13:54And he sees that a pedito arrives, not a pedita.
13:56And how ugly it is, Pablo, when people you love start chasing you.
14:02We have all been in that situation.
14:05And when you go, as Pata has gone, disinterested,
14:10with someone you love, and it is not reciprocal in the same intensity,
14:15I do not say that it is null, I say that it is not in the same intensity,
14:18the reciprocity of affection.
14:19Sure, like couples, one sometimes loves a lot, or too much,
14:22and the other loves less, and he does not care so much that he moves away.
14:25And if he starts chasing you, not even that he moves away,
14:28he starts chasing you and pushing you not to come, he does not call you,
14:32you already feel uncomfortable, wanting to go when you were not invited,
14:37you are disinterested, they are going to talk to the side.
14:41The whole situation begins.
14:43What is the trigger of this suicide, Pablo?
14:46Because Pata, I told you the other day, for me, with the son next to me,
14:51he did not escape a shot.
14:53No, no.
14:54He shot 10 first, at home.
14:56Attention, and then I will tell you a little secret from there.
14:59Marce Chulo, come, stay there, because I want you to listen to the second part
15:03of this exclusive audio that I was showing you.
15:05Let's see, it's not that I say it, Marcelo does not say it, Fito does not say it,
15:09he is saying it when he was alive, of course.
15:13Alejandro Pata, the main collaborator of La Querella until August 4.
15:19Until August 4, it is practically two months.
15:23Every day with this family, every day going and coming,
15:28from Goya to 9 de Julio, 9 de Julio to Algarrobar,
15:33through the lagoons, through the internal roads,
15:35that man who sought so much, felt betrayed.
15:39Listen to him.
15:41I don't have 30 million, Pepe, as I told you yesterday.
15:46I went on August 3, when I saw that the expert came,
15:51and he was not expert, you see?
15:54And Mendes started to leave me aside, you see?
15:58I mean, he didn't call me.
16:00I, with Mendes, opened a group of hunters.
16:03We have a small technical problem.
16:05We restart the same audio.
16:07It's interesting to listen to it again, Pablo.
16:09Do you want to listen to it again?
16:10It came back to me.
16:11Wait, wait, wait, Romy.
16:12Let's put it again, the first audio,
16:14and then we go down and go back to the second,
16:17because it's very important.
16:18We offer ourselves as hunters.
16:19Go ahead.
16:28Well, I don't know.
16:29We have a technical problem.
16:31We offer ourselves as hunters, says Alejandro Pata.
16:35Because he says, Pablo, that he was in a group of hunters
16:39and they called him because he had lost a baby.
16:41Of course.
16:42That's how it came.
16:43That's how it was.
16:44It's the Genesis.
16:45It's the beginning.
16:46Let's go with the beginning, then.
16:47Because here, as Fito, Marce, Alejandro Pata says,
16:50he begins to tell how he got to the Logan cause
16:53from the beginning,
16:54when this cause was in its infancy
16:56and was barely sought,
16:57and yet the media possibly didn't even know
17:00what was going on there.
17:02Listen to it again.
17:03Go ahead.
17:04I don't have 30 million, Pepe, as I told you yesterday.
17:08I left on August 3rd.
17:11When I saw that the expert came and didn't tell me,
17:15you know,
17:16and Mendez started to leave me aside,
17:20you know, he didn't call me.
17:22With Mendez I opened a group of hunters
17:25and with him we walked arm in arm
17:28and we started to report Flora and Fauna
17:30for the harassment and the barbarity they did.
17:33That's how I met Mendez.
17:34Because he includes me, through a patient,
17:36he includes me in a group of hunters.
17:39Then a neighbor from Logan came out,
17:42a very good friend of Mariano,
17:44who is in the group of hunters.
17:47He says, hey, why don't you help us find
17:49a girl who got lost here on July 9th?
17:51I'm a hunter, I'm in the group of fans,
17:53I'm in the group of collaborators.
17:55And a police officer told me,
17:56hey, look, we need people,
17:58and well, we offered ourselves.
18:00This is how this collaborator,
18:04tireless collaborator,
18:06I know there's something I'm going to tell you
18:08that Roberto Mendez doesn't like.
18:10But many times Mendez would get up a little late
18:14and this guy would show up and ring the bell.
18:16What are you doing?
18:17Come on, you have to declare him a father.
18:19Come on, I have to take him.
18:20I mean, the one who drove everything
18:22was Alejandro Pata.
18:25Give me a little concept of this first part
18:27that you heard, Marcelo Benitez,
18:29from there, from Corrientes.
18:32Well, I was there, I was there.
18:37I tell you that when everything begins,
18:43that's how he tells it.
18:45That's why I tell you what I felt
18:47in the report too,
18:49in this last report that he gave
18:51to a national media too.
18:56Notice that what you said there,
18:59everything was in a hurry.
19:01One day we went and stayed in a place
19:05because we couldn't get to the house
19:08of the father, let's say, of the mother,
19:11of the grandmother, let's say,
19:12of José's mother.
19:14And she said to me,
19:15go bring water to José.
19:16You go to this place, look at this.
19:18And I said, stop, stop, stop a little.
19:21Calm down a little.
19:22I was obsessed.
19:23I was going by the truck on one side,
19:25on the other.
19:27It was an impressive thing.
19:29So he really felt very bad,
19:34very bad, very bad.
19:36I couldn't believe it.
19:37He called me, he came and stayed there,
19:41he was there and talked to me.
19:42I told him to calm down,
19:43stay calm.
19:45But there it is, he tells you,
19:47because that note, I was with him,
19:49the trigger of that was this arrival
19:54that coincides,
19:55everything coincides a little
19:57with what happened, let's say,
19:59mainly in Buenos Aires,
20:02where a lot of people started to come.
20:05And that's when they started to leave him
20:07a little aside.
20:08And he felt very hurt there.
20:10Look, Marcelo coincides.
20:12They didn't protect him.
20:13Of course, Marcelo coincides with Fito.
20:15I understand that you coincide
20:16with what happened from August 4th
20:19with such an active man for the investigation,
20:22who was so confident in those first steps,
20:24he felt part of it, like many,
20:27like many who look for...
20:28But look, Pablo, the first day
20:31when Lohan is lost,
20:33when Lohan is lost,
20:34both Ale and Mendes,
20:38I have a program that was very,
20:42they had a counterpoint with Flora and Fauna
20:45and they were always there,
20:46the self-called hunters.
20:48So, the same thing you say,
20:51what he says exclusively,
20:52a close hunter calls him there
20:55and tells him,
20:57look, a boy is lost.
20:58The same day, huh?
21:00And Alejandro says,
21:01let's go now,
21:02and we are already at the disposal of the father.
21:05Already at the disposal of the father.
21:07Let's go now, let's go now.
21:09And they left.
21:11I told him, but stop a little,
21:13stop a little.
21:15Let's go now.
21:16The next day Mendes calls me and says,
21:19I'm going to take the credit,
21:20I'm going to do it.
21:21And they already started,
21:23they called the firemen,
21:24they called, I already told you,
21:25they called a piece there,
21:27I told him, stop a little,
21:29they called everyone, drones.
21:31So you wanted to stop him
21:33and he was moving forward more and more.
21:35And I ask you,
21:36I ask you, Marce.
21:37It was a crazy thing,
21:38a crazy thing.
21:39At what time?
21:40The things I went through,
21:41the lagoons that you showed,
21:42well, he went through them,
21:43but it was a crazy thing.
21:45It was a, well,
21:48that's how he left, poor thing.
21:52Unfortunately, with that terrible,
21:56distressing pain,
21:59and that the same son said it,
22:01it changed a lot,
22:03because it was terrible
22:05what he loved, what he wanted,
22:06and he didn't want to stop,
22:07and he was going to get to the last moment,
22:09I want to know where he is.
22:10It was a crazy thing,
22:11an unstoppable thing.
22:12Let's see, Marce,
22:13I want to hear,
22:14I want to share with you
22:16this second audio,
22:17with the audience,
22:18because there are many
22:19who had not heard,
22:20Alejandro Pata.
22:21And then I want to ask you,
22:23when did he start to distrust
22:26the police, Alejandro Pata,
22:28considering that he believed
22:30that everything he was doing
22:32was excellently good,
22:34and something, obviously,
22:36he noticed and realized,
22:37and changed, in some way,
22:39his opinion.
22:40Now you explain it to me,
22:41but I want to hear it.
22:42You had an audio,
22:43you were the first one to put,
22:45and I congratulate you,
22:47really,
22:48the first one you put,
22:50an audio where he spoke
22:52of what I was telling you.
22:53Of the police.
22:54A video where he said that,
22:55and after that video,
22:57because that morning,
22:59that afternoon,
23:01there they deliver,
23:03there is a policeman,
23:04I'll tell you now,
23:05I'll tell you now.
23:06Now you tell me everything,
23:07and let's go, guys,
23:08preparing the video
23:09that Marcelo is talking about,
23:10where he is seen driving
23:11Alejandro Pata
23:12with his father,
23:13one of Logan's brothers,
23:15Logan's father,
23:16and Roberto Mendes.
23:17Let's see,
23:18listen carefully,
23:19because here it is defined,
23:21in some way,
23:22luck in the future,
23:24and, of course,
23:25not only for this,
23:26because nobody,
23:27it does not mean
23:28that because you participate
23:29in a cause,
23:30and you go with everything
23:31to work obsessively,
23:32you end up killing yourself,
23:33right?
23:34I mean,
23:35here are other contexts too,
23:36but look how it all started.
23:37Listen to it.
23:39We offered ourselves as hunters,
23:40and we went.
23:42Friday we sent a group,
23:43Saturday we sent another group,
23:44and on Sunday we went.
23:46And on Monday we interviewed
23:47with Maciel
23:48and we gave him
23:49our point of view
23:50as hunters.
23:52And that's where
23:53all this developed.
23:54And it went from being
23:55the search for a lost child
23:56to what is happening now,
23:57that he is missing,
23:58what is this,
23:59that a alligator ate him,
24:00that he ran over
24:01the truck.
24:04And well,
24:05almost a month,
24:06month and a half passed.
24:07We came back from
24:08Buenos Aires,
24:09I already told you.
24:10Not with 170,
24:11140.
24:13But they say
24:14the sum exceeds 170.
24:16They say,
24:17because I never asked him,
24:18hey, show me,
24:21show me your cell phone,
24:22you see,
24:23you don't belong in that.
24:25It's illogical.
24:27I never got involved
24:28with money.
24:29Yes,
24:30the hunters,
24:31there is an audio,
24:32so I don't make it so long.
24:34Well,
24:35you listened well.
24:37Here,
24:38Marcelo can surely
24:39confirm it,
24:40I quote,
24:41since he had thrown himself
24:42into the pool,
24:43he was right.
24:44The drama begins
24:45with that
24:46collected,
24:47promoted,
24:48with total good faith,
24:50I say it again,
24:51from this channel,
24:52but to which all
24:53the channels joined.
24:54We would do it again,
24:55Pablo.
24:56Okay,
24:57okay.
24:58We would do it again.
24:59I mean,
25:00let's see,
25:01imagine all the channels
25:02of the city,
25:03all the channels
25:04with national reach,
25:05doing a collection
25:06for people who
25:07were left without a job,
25:08who did not have to eat,
25:09who did not have
25:10human capital around
25:11either,
25:12not even to take care
25:13of the children,
25:14an intendant
25:15who was
25:16somehow
25:17confused,
25:18who had suspected
25:19even that they would
25:20have wanted to
25:21test him,
25:22in that context,
25:23all the
25:24solidarity
25:25Argentines
25:26who were
25:27seeing
25:28that there was
25:29a missing child
25:30and a desperate
25:31father and a
25:32numerous
25:33desperate
25:34family,
25:35started
25:36a collection
25:38,
25:39they put money,
25:40we also,
25:41and it turns out
25:42that the version
25:43began
25:44that,
25:45of that collection,
25:46a part
25:47went
25:48to one side,
25:49another part
25:50went
25:51to the other,
25:52that some
25:53said
25:54they had
25:55put money
25:56and wanted to
25:57wash,
25:58or somehow
25:59with donations
26:00they could
26:01be paying
26:02something else,
26:03all that sea
26:04of suspicions
26:05ends up
26:06with a
26:07leg
26:08that not only
26:09in the beginning
26:10does not receive
26:11absolutely nothing,
26:12but begins to receive
26:13a mistreatment,
26:14to the point,
26:15they tell me
26:16that finally
26:17some of that
26:18money,
26:19for the services
26:20provided for two
26:21months,
26:22every day,
26:23for the
26:24naphtha,
26:25for this and
26:26for the other,
26:27reaches him,
26:28and when it
26:29reaches him,
26:30he does not want
26:31to keep it
26:32and wants to
26:33donate it.
26:34There,
26:35the problem
26:36is
26:37that
26:38the money
26:39reaches him,
26:40that
26:41we always
26:42say that
26:43we put
26:44a peso
26:45in that
26:46account
26:47so that
26:48the parents
26:49of Lohan
26:50did what
26:51they wanted,
26:52and if they
26:53wanted to give
26:54Alejandro Pata
26:55or Mendez
26:56or buy
26:57a motorcycle,
26:58it was money
26:59always to
27:00look for
27:01Lohan
27:02by various
27:03means,
27:04and
27:05we
27:06always
27:07say
27:08that
27:09the problem
27:10of money
27:11arises when
27:12someone
27:13installs
27:14the news
27:15that
27:16Alejandro
27:17Pata
27:18had been
27:19given 10
27:20million,
27:21because
27:22Pata
27:23did not
27:24say,
27:25I got
27:2610 million
27:27and I want
27:28to return
27:29them.
27:30Let's
27:31remember
27:32that someone
27:33gave me
27:3410 million
27:35for expenses
27:36and others.
27:37I want to hear
27:38about this
27:39Marcelo Chulo
27:40Benitez,
27:41who knows
27:42this internet very
27:43well,
27:44and then
27:45listen to you
27:46without
27:47seeing anything
27:48else,
27:49thank you
27:50for coming,
27:51of all this
27:52that we are
27:53telling you,
27:54as a lawyer,
27:55and also
27:56the female
27:57view,
27:58because there
27:59is also
28:00a context
28:01of gender
28:02discrimination,
28:03and yes,
28:04about a
28:05work that
28:06was done
28:07of toxicological
28:08peritages,
28:09this did
28:10happen,
28:11but until
28:12now, of
28:13course,
28:14it was not
28:15autopsy,
28:16justice
28:17considered
28:18at the first
28:19phase that
28:20it was a
28:21suicide.
28:22Marcelo,
28:23tell me a little
28:24more about this
28:25internal
28:26mess that
28:27separates
28:28men and
28:29women of
28:30good
28:31and bad
28:32and
28:33when
28:34fundamentally
28:35that issue
28:36begins when
28:37they come from
28:38Buenos Aires
28:39and he feels
28:40like
28:41relegated,
28:42he believed
28:43that they
28:44threw their
28:45heads at
28:46both
28:47José and
28:48Mendes,
28:49I
28:50insist,
28:51they had
28:52a lot of
28:53affinity,
28:54both
28:55started
28:56everything,
28:57both
28:58were in
28:59that
29:00moment
29:01when
29:02they
29:03had
29:04the
29:05opportunity
29:06to
29:07be
29:08successful
29:09in
29:10their
29:11profession
29:12and
29:13they
29:14had
29:15the
29:16opportunity
29:17to
29:18be
29:19successful
29:20in
29:21their
29:22profession
29:23and
29:24they
29:25were
29:26successful
29:27in
29:28their
29:29profession
29:30in
29:31their
29:32profession
29:33and
29:34they
29:35were
29:36successful
29:37in
29:38their
29:39profession
29:40.
29:41.
29:42.
29:43.
29:44.
29:45.
29:46.
29:47.
29:48.
29:49.
29:50.
29:51.
29:52.
29:53.
29:54.
29:55.
29:56.
29:57.
29:58Where does the version that Pata had received money from come from?
30:02And what did Pata tell you about that version that they had installed?
30:07Because he must have been wrong.
30:10He must have received a million, ten or two, or he must have gone to a gas station.
30:13And what happened with that money?
30:15If it wasn't the reason, in the national media, the money in power of Pata.
30:19Who installs that?
30:22Well, that question is very good for me to clarify something that is very important.
30:28Very good.
30:29Alejandro is given the 10 million pesos.
30:31Okay.
30:32He, the note that you are issuing, what is happening, he calls to channels that were at that time.
30:40You have to start rewinding a little.
30:44There were very few channels already in the area of Nueve de Julio.
30:48He calls Esquina, a channel that was there, and tells me, Chulo, what do you want me to do?
30:55What do you want to do?
30:56I tell him.
30:57I want to donate to volunteer firefighters or to a person who needs it or a charity.
31:03Who gives him the money?
31:05Who gives him the money, Marcelo?
31:07Marcelo, who gives him the money, those 10 million that Pata received?
31:11They give him both the father and Mendes.
31:17Mendes.
31:18They tell him before sending him?
31:20They tell him that.
31:21They tell him or take the surprise?
31:24No, no, that's all in the file.
31:27The money they gave Mendes, the money they gave him, is in the file.
31:31According to what they told me, the people who have read the file, he takes that money and says,
31:38that's why he had that great pain.
31:41I told Pablo.
31:42I told Pablo that he has a situation in which many times he spoke in the family and said,
31:52what do I do with the money?
31:53I want to donate it.
31:54I want to donate it.
31:55He called national media to say, I'm going to donate the money,
32:00I'm going to give this money to charities.
32:02Marcelo.
32:03Marcelo.
32:04And I told him, look, when you're doing that, when you're delivering, I'm going to film you,
32:09we're going to do things the way they have to do so that you can stay calm.
32:13Yes, yes, yes, stay calm.
32:15In fact, when I call the channel, when the channel comes, they call him,
32:19he goes to the channel, the national channel, and does this interview,
32:22and he comments a little on all this.
32:24I was next to him.
32:25And I told him, when you make a delivery, we're going to be labeling your delivery,
32:32we're going to do it the way it really has to be.
32:35Did it happen, Marcelo?
32:36I'll give you the last one because I'm running out of time.
32:38It didn't happen, did it?
32:40What?
32:41That delivery didn't happen.
32:43No.
32:44No.
32:45Perfect.
32:46Let's stay there.
32:47Let's stay there, Marcelo Benitez.
32:48I thank you again for this contact and we will continue to talk.
32:51This is not over.
32:52It's not over.
32:53Thank you, Marcelo.
32:54Another of the great journalists from Allí de Corrientes,
32:57who follows the case day by day for kidnapping or abduction,
33:03as they have called it in the Lohan process.
33:06I want a closing of what you heard here.
33:10In this whole case, at least, I want to go to another topic,
33:14but I'm interested in your vision.
33:16The vision that I have is that it seems to me that,
33:19excuse me all the professionals, I am a professional too,
33:22but this case seems to me to be a mess from the beginning to now.
33:26It seems to me that professionals, causes,
33:31tracking that had to be done months ago, are constantly changing.
33:36The truth is that I am surprised.
33:40Before, I had my doubts that Lohan could appear.
33:45Now, the truth is that I don't have any kind of feeling
33:50that can cause me this case.
33:53I am very disappointed.
33:55Very disappointed.