Patricia Bullrich relanza un plan de servicio cívico voluntario para jóvenes de 18 a 24 años que no estudian ni trabajan. El programa busca ofrecer capacitación laboral en áreas como plomería, gasista y electricista, brindando herramientas para mejorar la empleabilidad. Sin embargo, el plan genera debate sobre su efectividad y prioridades, en un contexto donde otros problemas sociales también requieren atención urgente.
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00:00I'm disappointed and disappointed at the same time.
00:02Why?
00:03Because it seems to me that Bararo is a civic service or voluntary community service.
00:09What does this mean?
00:10Yes.
00:11The problem on the street today unfortunately occurs with children who do not study or work
00:16and in this plan it covers those who are already 18 to 24 years old, they are older.
00:23It is a system that was already implemented by Patricia Woolrich in 2019.
00:28It tries to capture those who do not have a job today, who do not study, who are on the
00:32side.
00:33That is why it is called, we are going to give it the technical name, it is a voluntary service
00:38in terms of the civic.
00:40Why the civic?
00:41Because it tries in one way or another to give you tools, be it a work training,
00:45a training of some work that can be, I don't know, let's put a plumber, a gasman,
00:52an electrician.
00:53It gives you tools to go out into the world.
00:56To have a job.
00:57Yes, sir.
00:58Now, is it the way?
00:59Is it the moment?
01:00Yes, it can be.
01:01Is it rented?
01:02I understand that no, so no one is going to go.
01:05But it happened.
01:06I say, before we get into the debate, I like this, because there are so many spies on
01:09one side and on the other they tell you as, I say, I don't know.
01:12As the solution.
01:13I don't know, but someday someone has to take a first step, Carlos.
01:17I say, I want to be more optimistic than pessimistic with this.
01:20Honestly, I didn't think I was going to be a volunteer.
01:23I say, the debate would open if it is not voluntary and it is mandatory.
01:26It is the most similar to La Colimba, some newspapers.
01:29But I want to know, I say, what is the news?
01:33This is voluntary, just like.
01:35Super voluntary and not rented, which is what I think is the mistake.
01:38Just like what Patricia did here and that did not have so much repercussion, but someone
01:41has to take a first step.
01:42I say, the opportunity that people who do not work or study have where to go.
01:46But this is your first step, why?
01:49At least in what has been said, as Carlos says, it is not rented.
01:54Yes.
01:55The people who live near the place will be given priority.
01:59Sure.
02:00Whoever it is, really, to the people who need it.
02:03And then it says training in values, discipline, respect.
02:08I say that, sorry, it sounds so populist to me like what they did before.
02:13So populist.
02:15In addition, Carlos, sorry, do we know the result of 2019?
02:18A failure.
02:191,200 registered.
02:20A failure because it was interrupted by the government of Alberto Fernández.
02:23And you are disappointed, you said, because it would have to be mandatory for you to go to school.
02:28For me it should be mandatory and it should have some kind of training.
02:31Real training, real education.
02:33I'm not talking about military service, not at all.
02:36I say, it should be mandatory and not voluntary and it should be rented.
02:40Because today you have many 18-year-olds up there who are parents, for example.
02:43But mandatory for whom?
02:44For those who do not work or study.
02:46Or with a certificate of poverty, a deposit of poverty where you are forced to go to school.
02:50No, no, it's not a deposit of poverty.
02:52It's a plan.
02:53It's a plan.
02:54What do you want to have on the street?
02:55One by one.
02:56No, I think there are two things.
02:57You have to be careful.
02:58Of course.
02:59You teach them something.
03:01What?
03:02That's why it's better to give them a job that is remunerated.
03:05Well, the news is different.
03:06The news is that it is not mandatory.
03:08We are going to go out to the street.
03:10There is Chucky with the thermometer of the people.
03:12In favor or against?
03:13Does this measure change anything for us?
03:15Is it an advance?
03:16Or not?
03:17Or is it nothing?
03:18Chucky, I'm with you.
03:19How are you?
03:20Good morning.
03:21Pame, how are you?
03:22Here we are in Plaza de la Constitución.
03:24We are going to ask people what they think of this decision of Patricia Bullrich to launch this plan.
03:30Let's get closer to the people here.
03:34How are you?
03:35Good morning.
03:36All right?
03:37Patricia Bullrich relaunches the plan of civic service.
03:40Do you agree or not?
03:42No, I don't agree.
03:43Especially because of the economic policy that it carries.
03:46And especially Mireille, who is a Nazi who is killing the retirees of hunger.
03:51Because there are two ways to kill.
03:53The Nazis are repudiated, of course.
03:55But what does a retiree do?
03:57He can't buy medication.
03:59He rents.
04:00He can't afford it.
04:02In this case, it would be a plan for young people who do not study or work from 18 to 24 years old.
04:07Do you agree to launch it?
04:09No, I don't agree.
04:10A civic plan.
04:11Civic service.
04:12Not mandatory in this case.
04:14Military service is mandatory?
04:15No, no.
04:16Neither military nor mandatory.
04:17In this case, it would be voluntary.
04:19The policy of the Nazis is secondary.
04:21I don't agree.
04:22Very secondary.
04:23I hope it happens.
04:24And how often does it happen?
04:26How often does it happen?
04:27Live.
04:28We are live in America.
04:30Ah, well.
04:31That's what I really think.
04:33It was very clear, sir.
04:34Thank you very much.
04:35Well, let's continue.
04:36The gentleman does not understand and I think the observation is barbaric.
04:38How are you, sir?
04:39Good morning.
04:40Chucky.
04:41Do you agree with the relaunch of the civic plan?
04:43Yes, let's go.
04:44I'm listening to you.
04:45No, excuse me, Chucky.
04:46I interrupted you.
04:47What I say is that what the gentleman says is valid.
04:49There is no priority.
04:50It is not in the order of its priorities.
04:52Of course.
04:53Retirees cannot buy medication.
04:54This is also a topic that should be addressed.
04:56Why is it so expensive in Argentina if we compare it with other countries?
04:58Sorry, Chucky.
04:59Go ahead.
05:00I would like to meet someone who is between 18 and 24 years old to ask him if he would
05:05do it voluntarily too.
05:06Okay.
05:07No?
05:08Well, let's see.
05:09How are you?
05:10Good morning.
05:11Sir, I have a question.
05:12Yes.
05:13Patricia Bullrich relaunches this plan of ...
05:14Civic service, right?
05:15I forgot.
05:16Civic service.
05:17Voluntary in this case.
05:18Do you agree?
05:20I would not know what to tell you because I am not very informed about the subject.
05:21You catch me half asleep today.
05:22Sorry.
05:24In this case, it would be a tool that the State provides to a young person who neither
05:25studies nor works.
05:26And in that case it would be something positive because I think that we would have to do it
05:27voluntarily.
05:28Yes.
05:29Yes.
05:30Yes.
05:31Yes.
05:32Yes.
05:33Yes.
05:34Yes.
05:35Yes.
05:36Yes.
05:37Yes.
05:38Yes.
05:39Yes.
05:40Yes.
05:41Yes.
05:42Yes.
05:43Yes.
05:44Yes.
05:45Yes.
05:46Yes.
05:47Yes.
05:48Yes.
05:49Yes.
05:50I would say that we would have to return a little to the values of before, but ... but
05:51I'm not very informed.
05:52So...
05:53Well ... but at the beginning, yes.
05:54Yes.
05:55Yes.
05:56Yes.
05:57Thank you very much.
05:58No, it's ...
05:59Well ... come on, we keep asking.
06:00The thing is that also not having specific things, because I say we still do not have it ...
06:01Sure.
06:02It's strange ...
06:03I still look for ...
06:04Good morning.
06:05It is not because I am a hater of the measure.
06:06I give a consultation.
06:07Do you agree with the relaunch of the non-commitment civic service for young people age 18
06:09I'm looking for young people, it's not because I'm a hater of Amelida.
06:12Do you agree with the relaunch of the non-compulsory civic service for 18 to 24-year-olds who are not working or studying?
06:20I don't agree, no.
06:22For any particular reason?
06:24No, because it's all politics.
06:26It's a political game, more than a service for people.
06:30Exactly, yes.
06:33Well, several opinions here in the line while waiting for the collective, Pame.
06:37Well, Chiquito, thank you.
06:39Pame, I had more logic, I was thinking about the previous service,
06:42which was between 16 and 20 years for children who had not finished high school or had not finished elementary school.
06:49Well, I had a logic, being a volunteer.
06:52What worries me is that I honor the armed forces, which are trained for another task,
06:57democratic armed forces, I underline this point.
07:01They are not prepared pedagogically to prepare minors,
07:04that's why there were vocational schools for a long time,
07:07which seems to me a more logical option within the Ministry of Education.
07:10I don't understand why human capital with the army has to protect children.
07:15Well, it's the same.
07:16What I think is that there is a very strong group of young people for freedom.
07:22I mean, the young people were very strong.
07:25So it seems to me that there is something aimed at that kind of people.
07:28But it is what they are looking for, they are looking for more education, more work, more education.
07:33They are trying to reinforce their voters.
07:36But put them in a barracks to reinforce them.
07:38But it doesn't surprise me much.
07:40I want to open the polls, I want to listen to Connie too.
07:43Are you in favor or against?
07:45Patricia Woolrich announced the return to civil service for 18-24-year-olds who do not work or study.
07:50Do you agree or disagree?
07:51Let's start with the vote.
07:53Connie?
07:53I thought you were asking me.
07:55I think everything is perfectible and it is very easy to criticize what is done.
07:59I think education is the main tool we have and anything that is done after that,
08:03especially if they are going to provide, as they said, health tools, leadership, vocational orientation,
08:08for a generation called the Nini generation.
08:10The generation that neither works nor studies.
08:13They are, or they approach crime, addictions and a lot of problems that exist.
08:17But why not in the Ministry of Education?
08:19Connie, you are just talking about education.
08:21Look, I think that although the initiative is born from human capital,
08:24I doubt that those who implement it, that is, out there in the framework, are from the gendarmerie.
08:28But surely they will have teachers or coaches who are specialized in education.
08:33But Woolrich is signing, who is Minister of Security of the Nation.
08:36The Secretary of Education is not signing.
08:38Yes, at the moment the Ministry of Education does not intervene.
08:40But human capital, yes.
08:41Human capital and gendarmerie, for now, are the two.
08:44Human capital will articulate in logistics, but it will take it to the gendarmerie of 11 cities in the country.
08:49The problem is that, how do you convince a kid who is between 18 and 24 years old,
08:54who has other problems in his head,
08:56that he has to work to eat or to feed a child?
08:58No, it's just that they are not the ones who do not work or study.
09:01But why are they going to go?
09:02Because, you know what happens?
09:03The job, not working, not studying, does not mean that you do not earn a living in one way or another.
09:07Because those kids, in one way or another, they earn it.
09:09Being a drug dealer.
09:12Being a drug dealer satellite, that today you earn a fortune.
09:15I don't think they are all, but it is also a reality
09:17that it is very uncomfortable, antipathic, horrible.
09:20It's putting it on a TV show, because you put everyone in the same bag.
09:24That it is real, that someone has to do something.
09:26Exactly.
09:27Because no one is taking a measure to order.
09:30Yes.
09:31I say, what happens with those people on the street?
09:32But that's why it seems that everything that is social development has a look,
09:35today, very antipathic and politically incorrect,
09:37as if it were, well, there goes a progress talking about social development.
09:40No.
09:41They are areas that, as Connie thinks, have to be interdisciplinarily connected.
09:45But I run alongside the army, why?
09:47Not because of phobia, because there is a military high school
09:50and there is a military career that whoever decides to do it can register and prepare professionally.
09:56There is the mistake.
09:57Why not?
09:58It has nothing to do with military training.
09:59And what does a gendarmerie of Plumeria know, Carlos?
10:01The gendarmerie only delivers a place for the formation.
10:05They will not even be there.
10:07It's for the logistics, more than anything, that Plumeria.
10:10Why not simply contain them in a place and do not go to delinquir?
10:14Sure.
10:15And do not be bothering and do not get involved with the army.
10:18But why do you think that a group of criminals would want to go?
10:20They are going to go to a group of criminals.
10:24I'm going to ask you a question.
10:27Why do you think they would want to go?
10:28Sure, that's the point.
10:29What makes you think that they would go?
10:31Well, there is the way we install it in the media.
10:33We install it as something that will help you get ahead.
10:36Maybe.
10:37That will be positive for your life.
10:39It seems to me that it is part of the ...
10:41How is it called?
10:43What is the title?
10:45Attractive for ...
10:46Civic service.
10:47Yes.
10:48It is this.
10:49And in a subtext they put you there to educate in values.
10:54I say, it seems to me that the values have to be first in the family,
10:58primary education or primary education,
11:00that when it is not there, there must be territory services.
11:03Do you know what makes me noise about this?
11:05That it just coincides in a moment of disinvestment of everything that is social development.
11:09Then it sounds, as a testimony said there,
11:12like hiding the garbage under the carpet.
11:15Hey, well, this marks money, this marks an agenda.
11:18The government is very intelligent, marking an agenda.
11:20And Patricia Burry is lending herself to this again.
11:23But if you know this, Carlos ...
11:25One more than zero.
11:27Look, it's my favorite phrase.
11:28Of course.
11:29It helps one.
11:30Recently it was 1,200.
11:311,200 is more than zero.
11:33There are 1,200 who have already helped.
11:35So I always say the same thing.
11:37If someone has a better idea ...
11:38But a national state has to think more than the exception of the rule.
11:42If someone has a better idea, present it and implement it.
11:45But there are mysteries for that.
11:46The human capital is the mystery for that.
11:49For example, if we talk, because we also worry that we are thinking
11:53that this is for 18-year-old drug addicts.
11:55Well, Burry said it.
11:57Well, stop.
11:58Burry said it.
11:59Let's get young people out of the streets and get them away from the crime of drugs.
12:02There is a stage, a prior instance to that.
12:05To have a presence in places where there are young people
12:09who are surrounded by drug sales, drug trafficking,
12:12which are popular neighborhoods that maybe of working people
12:15and guys who fall into that, in consumption, in working for that.
12:18But somewhere ...
12:19It's a huge problem.
12:21It's very difficult to implement a remuneration for young people studying.
12:25No, it's what's missing.
12:26No, it's what's missing.
12:27No, it's what's missing.
12:28No, but it's like you said.
12:29Do you think a 18-year-old boy who has a daughter today, a newborn baby,
12:32is going to say,
12:33I'm going to go sign here,
12:35to see if they teach me something about values.
12:37I hope so.
12:38No, he's not going to go because that kid is a junkie, sells drugs,
12:40or is with a gun in his waist.
12:42But let's not take things out as soon as they come out.
12:44What?
12:45Let's not do it.
12:46Let's not think that the bad is going to happen.
12:48Let's think that the good is going to happen.
12:50It's not going to happen.
12:51The bad is going to go.
12:52Let's go say that education is not remunerated.
12:56I can think in business terms, Gaby.
12:58I can think in business terms.
13:00Why?
13:01I think in business terms, not political or social.
13:04Why would a company insist on a measure that has already failed?
13:08Because it sounds good.
13:09I think the context was different.
13:11The government of Alberto Fernández had other priorities.
13:14It wasn't that.
13:15It wasn't that.
13:16It wasn't that.
13:17It wasn't that.
13:18It wasn't that.
13:19It wasn't that.
13:20It wasn't that.
13:21It wasn't that.
13:22It wasn't that.
13:23It wasn't that.
13:25Then, Macri came to power.
13:26Macri…
13:27In 20-
13:28No, Macri was kicked out of the president's government.
13:31Well, with that...
13:32Let's repeat again.
13:33I don't have to remind Edward Allen.
13:34For me, ideas are good only when we uphold them well.
13:37We all have great ideas.
13:39The difficulty is finding an implementation…
13:40Sony, sorry, per year.
13:42The kids who leave the firm, need 180,000 employees a year.
13:45Today we have 130,000 employees.
13:48More to the crime.
13:50I can show you the line of law, because we are talking about...
13:52We're talking about... I'm surprised, because I think Ulrich knows reality well.
13:55That's why I'm surprised by this project, which on one hand supports me and on the other hand disappoints me.
13:58This happened in...