En una reciente discusión, se planteó la necesidad de implementar un servicio cívico obligatorio y universal en Argentina, con diferentes características para quienes trabajan y estudian y para quienes no lo hacen. Aunque hay consenso sobre los beneficios formativos de un sistema así, se debate si debería ser gestionado por instituciones militares o por otras entidades más adecuadas para enseñar oficios.
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00:00Civic Service. Good morning, Sergio. Thank you very much for this communication.
00:04How are you, Pamela? Good morning.
00:06What do you think of this?
00:08Let's see. If I read the basics, I totally agree.
00:13Yes, it cut us off.
00:15It cut us off.
00:17What?
00:18Again, it cut us off. Do you agree if I read the basics?
00:21In the basics, I totally agree.
00:24I mean, in the form. In the background.
00:27I totally agree in the form. I am totally convinced that in Argentina we must move forward
00:33with different characteristics for those who do not work and study,
00:39and with other characteristics for those who work and study,
00:43but that it is universal and mandatory.
00:45Would you like? Should it be mandatory?
00:48It should be mandatory, it should be universal,
00:52with a totally different methodology and planning
00:56for those who do not work and study,
00:58and for those who have a job and a study.
01:01But I am totally convinced.
01:03And I do not say it from political speculation,
01:06nor from theoretical analysis.
01:09I say it because I lived it.
01:11During the 90s, I was assigned to the most authoritarian regime in Argentina.
01:17Our communication is cut off.
01:19I am making a huge effort to understand you.
01:21There is a lot of feedback.
01:24Lower the feedback, Sergio, please.
01:27Yes.
01:28Chai, now?
01:29Yes.
01:30Well, the feedback continues, but I will try to speak slowly.
01:33What I tell you, I say it from experience.
01:37I do not say it from political speculation,
01:40nor from mere theoretical analysis.
01:44During the 90s, I was assigned to the most austral and inhospitable regime
01:50that the army has.
01:51On the border with Chile, in the middle of Patagonia,
01:54where there was not even a city.
01:56We had no communications, there was nothing.
01:5925 degrees below zero in the winter,
02:02where there were between 3,000 and 5,000 soldiers.
02:08And those soldiers were mainly from the southern part of the province of Buenos Aires.
02:12Thirty years have passed.
02:14Today I travel the province,
02:16and there is no place for me to go in the province of Buenos Aires
02:20where my soldiers have been waiting for me for 30 years.
02:23I ask everyone the same question.
02:25Do you have to do compulsory military service?
02:28And there is no one who tells me no.
02:30Everyone says yes.
02:31Everyone recognizes the positive impact it had on their training as a person,
02:36and that it would be extremely positive for the country
02:39to return to a compulsory military system.
02:43You are planning that now, sorry.
02:45Because what we were discussing here was why a boy between 18 and 24 years old,
02:48who has no job, who does not study, that is, he has no resources,
02:51is going to go for free to a place where supposedly...
02:54Sorry, we were reading the contents,
02:57especially in discipline, respect and values.
02:59It does not speak of military civil service or military service
03:03or training for trades or technicians,
03:06or say, well, we guarantee you the last one,
03:09I don't know, we pay you the transport so you can get to the place,
03:13and then a job.
03:14I say, it's kind of abstract, the truth.
03:16It sounds good.
03:17When you start reading it, you don't understand much.
03:20That's why I say, in the background, the background of the issue,
03:24the incorporation of values, the incorporation of discipline,
03:27the incorporation of methodology in the development as a human being,
03:31it seems to me that compulsory military service was essential
03:35in the training of our young people.
03:37It's not what they propose now, right?
03:39Why military service?
03:41There are schools, universities, also for that education.
03:46That's why I don't agree with the form,
03:48that's why I don't agree with the way it was done,
03:51because that is a result of something that has already been done,
03:54that was tried and that was unsuccessful,
03:56because they barely incorporated 1,200 people,
03:59and when public policies do not have a scale, they are not successful.
04:03So, at this point, I understand that it does not coincide
04:06with Patricia Bullrich or Petovello in this civic service,
04:10or it does coincide, but not in military areas.
04:13I didn't understand well.
04:15No, that's why I repeat again,
04:17I totally agree with the background of the issue,
04:19in the incorporation of values,
04:21in the incorporation of understanding what is the exercise of sovereignty,
04:25the defense of sovereignty and the sacred interests of the nation.
04:29I do not agree that it is the gendarmerie,
04:31the institute that has to carry out as if it were a job.
04:37It is not the gendarmerie that is trained to teach trade,
04:41that's why there are the trade schools, the different awards.
04:45But I fully agree with the background.
04:49I think that in Argentina there must be a debate
04:52about the incorporation of the mandatory military service
04:56with another methodology, not like that.
04:58So, they put on the agenda a topic,
05:00maybe to test the repercussion of society.
05:03They did it very lightly, because it is useless.
05:07If you want to test, know that I totally agree
05:12that we have to return to a mandatory military service.
05:15It is a priority.
05:17We close this topic.
05:19But he threw a title that I think is a real debate,
05:24the one that Sergio Berni throws.
05:26Thank you very much.
05:29It's a debate.
05:30It's just an opinion of Sergio Berni.
05:32I agree, but we have to give reason to Bullrich.
05:36He said it.
05:38He said, yes, but ...
05:40We all said it here, yes, but it was a bluff.
05:43There is nothing serious.
05:45What I recognize broadly is that the government
05:49has a masterful ability to install agenda issues
05:53and perhaps run the focus of other issues that are so important.