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00:00Good evening. Welcome to Hatsumimi Kaidan.
00:02First, let's welcome our regular guests.
00:04Thank you for having us.
00:05Thank you for having us.
00:06Thank you for having us.
00:07Thank you for having us.
00:08We have a special guest with us today.
00:10This is the second time Hatsumimi Kaidan has come to the studio.
00:13Please welcome Shizuku Hoshino.
00:15Thank you for having us.
00:16Thank you for having us.
00:17Thank you for having us.
00:18When you say Shizuku-san,
00:20there are only a few of you.
00:22It's a long time, isn't it?
00:24Yes, it is.
00:25I've been doing this for a long time.
00:27How long have you been doing this?
00:29Since I started Kaidan?
00:30Yes.
00:31Fifteen?
00:33Sixteen?
00:34Fifteen years?
00:35It's been fifteen or sixteen years.
00:37The quality of Kaidan,
00:39or Kaidan in this era,
00:42does it change after fifteen years?
00:45Yes, I think it has changed a little.
00:48When you first started Kaidan,
00:51what was the most popular thing in Kaidan?
00:54The cassette tapes.
00:57Ah, I see.
00:58The audio tapes.
00:59The videotapes.
01:01Ah, I see.
01:02Also, the public telephone.
01:04It's been fifteen years.
01:05No, it hasn't.
01:06Also, the wireless telephone.
01:07The wireless telephone.
01:08Ah, I see.
01:09The public telephone doesn't exist anymore.
01:10That's true.
01:11I see.
01:12It doesn't exist anymore.
01:13Now, let's move on to this segment.
01:16It's the Hatsumimi Midobata Conference.
01:18In this segment,
01:19we will talk about the topics that have been decided every week.
01:24Today, December 15th,
01:26is the day when Kyoto was registered as a World Heritage Site.
01:31Today's topic is Kyoto.
01:34Kyoto?
01:35Ah, Kyoto.
01:37Yes.
01:38Kyoto has the image of a power spot.
01:41Shizuku-san,
01:43do you have a title you're interested in?
01:46I'm sorry,
01:47I'm not sure if I should say this,
01:48but I'm interested in the monkey mirror.
01:50Yes, the monkey mirror.
01:51It doesn't look like Kyoto at all.
01:53This is Kyoto.
01:55When a person living in Kyoto
01:58was trying to clean up after his parents passed away,
02:02he found an old box.
02:07It said,
02:08a country of small people.
02:11A country of small people?
02:12It was like a country of small people.
02:14When he opened it,
02:15there was a small child's mirror.
02:18He contacted the police.
02:20He said he had to look into it.
02:22He looked into it.
02:24It wasn't a child's mirror.
02:26It was a monkey mirror.
02:28When you look at the window of the house,
02:30the bookshelf where the mirror was found
02:32was in the direction of the north gate.
02:34It was in the position of the gate.
02:36In Kyoto,
02:37in the position of the gate,
02:38in the position of the north gate,
02:39there is a thing called a monkey's nest.
02:44It seems that there is a custom
02:47in Kyoto to have a monkey's nest.
02:51If you think about it,
02:53I think there is a story that
02:55the family knew something about
02:57the monkey's nest in the house
02:59to seal the gate.
03:01The story continues to this day.
03:03In a way,
03:04a cow and a tiger,
03:05a cow and a tiger are the gate,
03:06but the opposite is a monkey,
03:07so it's a back gate.
03:09It seems that monkeys are used
03:11to seal the gate.
03:14There is history.
03:18Let's move on.
03:19Mr. Tanishi,
03:20did you have any questions?
03:21Yes.
03:22Let's move on to something like Kyoto.
03:24Oh, it's like Kyoto.
03:26It's like Kyoto.
03:27It's like Kyoto.
03:28What do you mean?
03:29It's not Kyoto.
03:30It's me.
03:31What do you mean?
03:32When I heard this story,
03:34I said,
03:35it's like Kyoto.
03:36Oh, I see.
03:37It's a one-way street.
03:39I'm addicted to the escalator
03:41that the station staff gives me.
03:42One of them is
03:44from Kizu Station in Kyoto
03:46to Nara Station.
03:49When I left Kizu Station,
03:51I couldn't stop the escalator.
03:53I see.
03:54It was Narayama Station in Nara.
03:57Between Kizu Station
03:58and Narayama Station,
04:00there was a train station
04:02that was a terminal station.
04:04There was a fire station
04:06between the station and the dormitory.
04:08At the fire station,
04:10I saw many ghosts.
04:13I heard that
04:14the ghosts always
04:16came to the dormitory.
04:18Oh.
04:19It's like Kyoto.
04:21Right?
04:22It's like Miyabi.
04:24I wonder if there was a mansion there.
04:26It's possible.
04:28Let's move on.
04:29Well,
04:31Kiyotaki Tunnel.
04:33Kiyotaki Tunnel is a famous haunted spot.
04:36It's famous.
04:37Yes.
04:38About 10 years ago,
04:40I went there as a reporter.
04:43I asked them to tell me
04:45what happened or heard.
04:47But they told me
04:49not to look up anything.
04:51What do you mean?
04:52I arrived at the location
04:54in the middle of the night.
04:55There was a tunnel in front of me.
04:57There was a forest around me.
04:59I heard that the shooting would start from here.
05:01I put on a microphone
05:02and went inside.
05:04There was nothing there.
05:06I was scared.
05:08I saw the light at the entrance
05:10without knowing anything.
05:12But I got out of the tunnel
05:14without knowing anything.
05:18There was a bridge in front of me.
05:20The river was flowing down.
05:22I was told that there was something
05:24on the bridge.
05:25But there was nothing there.
05:27I was getting more and more scared.
05:29The staff members.
05:31There was nothing there.
05:33I was scared of their eyes.
05:36After crossing the bridge,
05:38I saw a gentle slope
05:40that wasn't paved.
05:42When I saw that,
05:44the director pushed me from behind.
05:47He told me to go there.
05:49He felt my eyes.
05:51The left side was a forest.
05:53The right side was a cliff.
05:55The river was flowing down.
05:57It was almost a cliff.
05:59There were five people.
06:02I went there with five people.
06:04I noticed that there were more people
06:06on the way.
06:08I thought there was nothing there.
06:11But there were more people.
06:13I was curious.
06:15I counted.
06:171, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
06:22Huh?
06:24Someone is there.
06:26When I said that,
06:28the shutter closed.
06:30I noticed that
06:32I was in front of the river.
06:34I was trying to get into the river.
06:37The sub-cameraman
06:39grabbed my neck and said,
06:41Hey, Ms. Ishizaki!
06:43I got into the river.
06:45Huh?
06:47I was trying to get into the river
06:49but I wasn't conscious at all.
06:51When I went up,
06:53I turned off the camera.
06:55I thought,
06:57I heard a voice before the shutter closed.
07:00I said, I heard a voice before the shutter closed.
07:02I walked away
07:04saying that I didn't have to say anything.
07:07But I heard a voice.
07:09I said, I heard a voice.
07:11I said, I heard a voice.
07:13I said, I heard a voice.
07:15I said, I heard a voice.
07:17I said, I heard a voice.
07:19The sub-cameraman said,
07:21Shut up!
07:23She is following us.
07:25When I heard that,
07:27I felt cold on my left leg.
07:29I felt like I touched a rag.
07:31I felt like I touched a rag.
07:33I saw a small hand
07:35on my ankle.
07:37I was about to go to the cliff.
07:39I had to check my consciousness.
07:41I was about to go to the cliff.
07:43I was about to go to the cliff.
07:45The director said,
07:47You can't see anything.
07:49You can't hear anything.
07:51You can't hear anything.
07:53I was scolded.
07:55I was dragged to the location.
07:57I was dragged to the location.
07:59I was dragged to the location.
08:01I was dragged to the location.
08:03I thought,
08:05What if I had gone alone.
08:07I thought,
08:09What if I had gone alone.
08:11I remembered the time.
08:13You were able to see the scene.
08:15I was able to see the scene.
08:17Now, let's move on to the next segment, the Hatsumimi Short Stairs.
08:21In this segment, the staff will actually go out into the city
08:24and introduce the short stairs that have been collected from the general public
08:28and the short stairs that have been invited to the program
08:31in a short video.
08:33Now, let's take a look at the Hatsumimi Short Stairs.
08:41A few years ago, I lived in an apartment a few dozen meters from the station.
08:45So when I went outside, I always heard the sound of the train arriving and the announcement from the station.
08:51One night, when I went to the convenience store,
08:54I noticed that the announcement I heard from the station was gradually changing to a distorted voice.
09:01Soon, the train will arrive at platform 2.
09:09I thought it was creepy, but this time it gradually turned into a chant.
09:14The chant was getting louder and louder, and when I realized it,
09:17I couldn't move as if I was tied to a rope.
09:21The chant, which was so loud that my head was about to break, suddenly stopped.
09:27At that moment,
09:28I heard a voice saying,
09:30Die!
09:32and the rope stopped.
09:35Later, at that station,
09:37I learned that there had been a lot of car accidents in the past.
09:41If I had been at the station at that time,
09:44what would have happened to me?
09:48It's scary.
09:49But why is there a chant?
09:51That's right.
09:52It's a bit of a mystery.
09:54Mr. Taku, what do you think?
09:56Announcements are transmitted by radio waves, right?
09:58So I thought it might have been heard only by that person.
10:03There are now voices on YouTube that just chant the chant.
10:09One of my viewers said,
10:11it was a big deal just to chant the chant.
10:14He is a college student now,
10:16but when he was a high school student,
10:18he could be seen in his family.
10:20Especially, he could see his brother a lot.
10:23When he came home from work,
10:25he said,
10:26a woman is following me again.
10:28But I felt that the distance was getting closer
10:32to the extent that I felt the presence.
10:35For example,
10:36when I came home and said,
10:38I'm home,
10:39when I turned on the light,
10:40it was like the light was saying,
10:42welcome home.
10:43So I talked to my friend,
10:45and he said,
10:46why don't you play this chant app on YouTube?
10:48So I played it.
10:49The light was flickering like it was suffering.
10:53So I said,
10:54wow, it might be working.
10:55But the presence was still there.
10:57So I played it every day at this fixed time.
11:00Then the flickering became slower,
11:04and it felt like it was getting weaker.
11:06Then it completely turned off,
11:08and there was no reaction at all.
11:10I thought,
11:11this YouTube app might work.
11:14At that time,
11:15I graduated from high school and went to university.
11:18When I came home after a long time,
11:20my brother looked at me,
11:23and said,
11:24it's a big deal.
11:26Maybe,
11:27but it's completely inside.
11:30Maybe,
11:31maybe,
11:32but I think it's really fast.
11:36As my brother said,
11:38it seems to be like that.
11:39It seems that it hasn't been improved yet.
11:41What?
11:42So,
11:43you know,
11:44there's a chant that you don't know who put it in.
11:46It's better not to let it go.
11:48I think it's better to make it a chant
11:50that the old lady chants on the spot.
11:52It's amazing that you can communicate there.
11:55It's a bit romantic, isn't it?
11:57It's like a birdcage.
11:59Let's do it again.
12:02I thought that the old lady moved.
12:10Let's move on to the next corner.
12:12It's the first take of Hatsumimi Kaidan.
12:14This is the first take of Hatsumimi Kaidan
12:16where the first-timer shows the first-timer's steps.
12:19Today,
12:20the one who will show the steps is
12:22Ms. Shizuku Hoshino.
12:27Please come to the stage.
12:29I'm nervous.
12:37Are you ready?
12:39Yes.
12:40Today,
12:41you will show the first-timer's steps.
12:45Ms. Shizuku Hoshino,
12:47thank you.
12:52This story was told
12:54by a man named Rom
12:56when he was in his 20s.
12:58At that time,
13:00he worked at a call center.
13:03He worked out
13:05and commuted by bicycle to work.
13:09He was from a local city,
13:12so he lived in a lonely place.
13:14For example,
13:15he lived in a bamboo house
13:17and in an old and small cemetery
13:19that he didn't know
13:21when it was built.
13:23In front of a park with few people,
13:25there was a phone box
13:27with a parasol.
13:29He was abandoned
13:31for many years.
13:34He was a good person,
13:36but when the sun went down
13:38and it got dark,
13:40he felt creepy.
13:44One day,
13:46a newcomer
13:48who had finished training
13:50was going to work at a nightclub.
13:53Rom joined him
13:55as a guide.
14:01He worked there
14:03for a while,
14:05but it was almost time
14:07to close,
14:09and he got a phone call.
14:11The newcomer answered the phone.
14:14Sorry to keep you waiting.
14:16This is 00 Call Center.
14:19Hello?
14:24He didn't say anything.
14:26He didn't say anything.
14:28I thought,
14:30what's going on?
14:32I tried to talk to him,
14:34but he muted me.
14:36I said,
14:37I'm sorry,
14:38but I can't hear you.
14:40It's a silent phone call.
14:42He said,
14:44it may be broken.
14:46Please call again.
14:49I said,
14:50I'm sorry.
14:51He said,
14:52I see.
14:53Hello?
14:55I'm sorry.
14:56I can't hear you.
14:58Please call again.
15:03He stopped again.
15:05I thought,
15:06what's going on?
15:08I tried to talk to him,
15:10but he didn't respond.
15:12I said,
15:13wait a minute,
15:14but he didn't respond.
15:16The next moment,
15:17I heard a click,
15:18and I thought
15:19the newcomer had moved.
15:24I started clapping.
15:26What are you doing?
15:28I thought,
15:29what are you doing?
15:31But he didn't respond.
15:33I thought,
15:34this is bad.
15:35I answered the phone.
15:36I'm sorry,
15:37but I can't hear you.
15:39Please call again.
15:41I said,
15:42I'm sorry.
15:43I hung up.
15:45I tried to talk to him again,
15:48but he didn't respond.
15:50I thought,
15:51this is bad.
15:52I was sitting in a chair with a caster,
15:55so I pushed the button
15:57and went to the break room.
15:59I told him to rest there,
16:02and I went back to work.
16:07After a while,
16:08I got a call.
16:10It was from the same number as before.
16:14When I realized it,
16:16I looked at the person in charge of the night shift.
16:19The person in charge noticed it,
16:21and said,
16:22I'm going to come out.
16:24I said,
16:25please.
16:26I made eye contact with him,
16:28and he picked up the phone.
16:32Hello,
16:33sorry to keep you waiting.
16:34This is 00 Call Center.
16:36Hello?
16:38Hello?
16:42I'm sorry.
16:43I can't hear you.
16:48What?
16:49No way.
16:50I looked back,
16:51and the person in charge was also there.
16:53Then,
16:57he started clapping.
16:58I thought,
16:59this is strange.
17:01I started monitoring the phone.
17:05I couldn't hear anything.
17:08I didn't hear anything.
17:09But,
17:10the company was a special one.
17:13There was a waveform in the monitor screen.
17:16When I looked at it,
17:18if it was a human voice,
17:20there would be a fluctuation.
17:23But,
17:24there was a line
17:30that moved straight
17:31at the peak.
17:32He was picking up some sound.
17:34Probably,
17:35it wasn't a human voice.
17:36But,
17:37I couldn't hear the sound.
17:38I didn't know what was going on.
17:42That was the end of it.
17:44Later,
17:45I asked the two
17:46what happened.
17:49They said,
17:50they remembered until the middle.
17:53When I tried to guide them,
17:55I heard a strange sound
17:57like something was moving.
18:01After that,
18:02I lost consciousness.
18:04I don't remember what happened after that.
18:09In the end,
18:10I didn't know what the call was.
18:13But,
18:14I did know
18:16where the call came from.
18:21It was
18:22from a phone call
18:23that Mr. Rom received
18:24while he was on his way to work.
18:25It was from a phone call
18:26that Mr. Rom received
18:28while he was on his way to work.
18:33After that,
18:34I checked it out personally.
18:37I couldn't find any records
18:38of any accidents or incidents.
18:41So,
18:42I don't know what happened.
18:45I heard that
18:46there was a call
18:47from a phone call
18:48that couldn't be used.
18:50That's what I heard.
18:52Thank you very much.
18:59It was like this,
19:00so it's fine.
19:01But,
19:02we hesitated
19:03to clap.
19:05I was like,
19:06is this okay?
19:11It was a phone call
19:12from a phone call
19:13that couldn't be used.
19:15That's right.
19:16What kind of clap was it?
19:17Don't you know what it means?
19:18I don't know what it means.
19:20What is it?
19:21It's strange, isn't it?
19:22When I looked back,
19:23he was clapping.
19:24What kind of expression was he making?
19:26Also,
19:27he was wearing a band-aid.
19:29If the accident
19:30hadn't happened,
19:32the person who was clapping
19:34might have been in trouble
19:36and couldn't use it.
19:39I see.
19:41But,
19:42is that what it means?
19:45I can't imagine
19:46a phone call
19:47that claps.
19:48I'm curious.
19:50But,
19:51it was like this,
19:52so it's fine.
19:53But,
19:54the other side?
19:55I thought
19:56it was a phone call
19:57from a deceased person.
19:59At first,
20:00when I talked about
20:01the phone call,
20:02I was like,
20:03it's not like that now.
20:04But,
20:05the phone call came out.
20:06I was so excited.
20:07I was surprised at first.
20:09After Shizuku finished talking,
20:11we hesitated
20:12to clap.
20:14I was like,
20:15is this okay?
20:16The person who told me
20:17about the experience
20:19said that
20:20he didn't remember
20:21his consciousness at the end.
20:23I think that's why he clapped.
20:25I see.
20:28I can't even imagine.
20:30I don't know
20:31what's going on.
20:33I don't think
20:34it's necessary
20:35to think about it.
20:37I don't think
20:38it's necessary
20:39to think about it.
20:40But,
20:41I was so scared
20:42when I imagined
20:43a phone call
20:44from a person
20:45I didn't know
20:46and the person
20:47next to me
20:48suddenly became like this.
20:49I can't see
20:50the other person's face.
20:51Well,
20:52there is a saying
20:53that it goes well
20:54with a ghost.
20:55So,
20:56is there a connection
20:57with an unknown person?
20:59Maybe.
21:01The more I think about it,
21:02the more I think about it.
21:03Thank you very much.
21:04Thank you very much.
21:09How was it, everyone?
21:10In this program,
21:11we are looking forward to
21:12the mysterious experiences
21:13from everyone.
21:14We have a collection
21:15of unique stories,
21:16so please look forward to it.
21:18So,
21:19today's guest
21:20was Shizuku.
21:21Thank you very much.
21:22Thank you very much.
21:24I'm scared of applause.
21:25I'm scared of applause.
21:26Please don't do that.