PMLN Govt Kyun PTI Nay Muzakarat Karnay Sa Bhag Rahi Hai? - Tariq Fazal Ch's Reaction
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00:00Tariq-e-Insaaf is now ready to talk to you as well.
00:05Earlier, she didn't want to talk to you.
00:07She wanted to talk to the establishment.
00:09But now, I think she has fewer options.
00:12She also feels that after 26, there are very few political options.
00:17But you don't talk to her.
00:19I have told you in the beginning of the programme about your statements.
00:23Earlier, you used to say, come and talk to us.
00:25We will talk to you.
00:26Problems are solved through talks.
00:28She doesn't want to talk to you.
00:30Why?
00:31Look, brother.
00:33Talks are the only way to move matters forward.
00:37People like you understand this.
00:38I understand this as a political worker.
00:40Doctors are weak in poetry.
00:43But there is a poem,
00:45Let me scratch the soil of the country.
00:47I am sure the way will come out from here.
00:50Sooner or later, you will have to get involved in a political dialogue.
00:55You said that there are fewer options.
00:58I would say that there is less political space for political parties.
01:01And that too, in a fight.
01:03If PTI realized this 10 months ago...
01:08So, she went to the establishment?
01:10Look, the establishment...
01:12I read Mr. Shahbaz's statement on the front page.
01:16It was a big headline.
01:17He was serious about talking to her.
01:19But the Prime Minister refused.
01:21No, no.
01:22He didn't refuse.
01:23And I don't think you are the only one who doesn't want to talk to her.
01:27We have heard Mr. Khawaja Asif's statement.
01:30He is ready to talk to her.
01:31If she is not ready, she can't talk to him.
01:33Or she won't succeed.
01:34I don't think you are allowed to talk to her.
01:36Look, what you said about the Prime Minister,
01:38that he should be ready.
01:39This is not a refusal.
01:41This is a reaction to those statements of Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf.
01:45In which he says,
01:46I was in a program 5 days ago.
01:49In 2-3 programs, he said,
01:51I am completely ready to talk to you.
01:53The next day, Mr. Umar Ayub said,
01:55No, the civil disobedience movement that we talked about,
01:58it stands in its place.
02:00On the third day, he said,
02:01First, complete these two matters,
02:03then we will come to the negotiations.
02:059th and 26th.
02:06So, these conditional negotiations,
02:08you can say that it is something that should not be done.
02:10You sit once,
02:11then talk.
02:13Some will melt,
02:14some you will move ahead.
02:15Doctor, after 26th November,
02:17you did not become arrogant.
02:19Generally, there is this kind of do or die,
02:21we will not leave,
02:23we will hang you,
02:24we will throw you,
02:25type of matters and statements.
02:27And you are seeing that after that,
02:29now it is a matter of conversation.
02:31And that which was earlier.
02:33Did arrogance come after this?
02:35We are winners, we are winners.
02:37We will not leave,
02:38as you said,
02:39we will catch them,
02:40we will do this and that.
02:41There are some political statements.
02:42Every party needs it.
02:43Every Jalsa needs it.
02:44You can call it like this.
02:45But practically,
02:46whenever a government is arrogant,
02:48you will understand that
02:50its days have already been counted.
02:52Its downfall starts.
02:54And we have seen a lot of downfalls as a government.
02:56So, we are definitely not arrogant.
02:58This is one thing.
02:59I saw the statement,
03:00that's why I am saying.
03:01Because he said,
03:02you have a card,
03:03you play that card first.
03:04You have another card,
03:05you play first.
03:06No, no, no.
03:07This is not the mode
03:08of playing cards.
03:09No, no,
03:10if someone has played.
03:11Because you understand this thing that
03:13you will not have a conditional conversation.
03:15You have to talk to us,
03:16you have to come to the side of conditions.
03:18Without conditions,
03:19what will happen?
03:20This is one way.
03:21But when he said,
03:22you play the card,
03:23we will see.
03:24I have told you,
03:25give some space to the political parties.
03:27Give them some political statements.
03:29Give them some space.
03:30Otherwise,
03:31the real thing is that
03:33the path will come out from here.
03:35And the second thing,
03:36I will tell you another compulsion.
03:38Listen to that too.
03:39I am telling you in one year.
03:40Another compulsion of our government
03:42is that we are not a single party government.
03:44We have to take our allies on board
03:46to do all these things
03:48that I am telling you in the program.
03:50Contradictory opinions can also come in that.
03:52Are you talking about political allies?
03:54Yes, political allies.
03:55Of course.
03:56They are with us in the government.
03:58I will talk about those
03:59who have a government at the head of their vote.
04:01This is a compulsion of the government.
04:03You have another compulsion.
04:05Maybe you will not tell the owner.
04:07The thing is that
04:08that compulsion is of every government.
04:10Mr. Khai has also said the owner.
04:12It does not work without the establishment.
04:14Neither does the government of Pakistan.
04:16But,
04:17I am very clear in this, brother.
04:19The thing is that
04:20the establishment
04:21is not a charity of any Jamaat.
04:23Nor is it a charity of any leadership.
04:25Imran Khan made a very big mistake
04:27that his bond with me
04:29is for the next 20-25 years.
04:31It cannot be broken.
04:32This is a permanent bond.
04:33This is a permanent bond.
04:34And if anyone is still thinking
04:36that our bond is permanent,
04:37then this is wrong.
04:38He has a very big misunderstanding.
04:40They never run political parties.
04:42They run the country.
04:43They are with Pakistan.
04:44If we,
04:45I am saying this on my own,
04:47if we are useless,
04:49if we cannot run the country,
04:51if we cannot run the system,
04:53then why will they support us?
04:55We have clarity in this.
04:56Therefore,
04:57this thing of the establishment of the government,
05:00they are one.
05:01They are one in every era.
05:02And if they are not one,
05:03then the government cannot run.
05:04No country can run.
05:05Take the example of the previous government.
05:07I think if there was no COVID,
05:09then the government would have collapsed soon.
05:11In my opinion.
05:13Because of COVID,
05:14everything stopped.
05:19If the PTI is serious, then Jawaharlal Nehru...
05:21He has a statement.
05:22He is not serious.
05:23He has a statement in his response to the PM.
05:25But whatever space you got,
05:29before COVID,
05:30Mr. Nawaz Sharif was sent out first.
05:32When the whole issue of platelets happened.
05:34Then you were offered
05:36to take Punjab first,
05:38then take the center,
05:39and then everything was given to you.
05:41So this is...
05:42If the space has to be taken out,
05:44you are not doing much.
05:47The problem is that the anger is so much
05:49that the space will not be opened.
05:51Do you remember
05:52that when Imran Khan was saying
05:54that the parrot of Urooj was speaking,
05:56at that time I always used to say
05:58that Imran Khan does not need any enemy.
06:00You must have read my statement too.
06:02The reason is that Imran Khan
06:04is a very famous saying of Hazrat Ali.
06:06Someone said that
06:07when he got a position,
06:09he got pride in it.
06:10He got a collar on his neck.
06:12So he said that no,
06:13this power does not come in the neck.
06:15The reality is in front of you.
06:17Yes.
06:18It exposes you.
06:19Now Imran Khan would have been exposed soon
06:21if COVID did not come.
06:22Here you are right.
06:23I am with you.
06:24I am with you.
06:25Political exposure.
06:26Political.
06:27Of course, I am talking about politics.
06:28It is about politics.
06:29And his stupidity and his wife
06:32and his selfishness.
06:34I am forced to use this word.
06:36It took him to his end long ago.
06:38Sir, what is the solution to the problem?
06:40Let's come to the real solution.
06:42Let's say,
06:43if they agree,
06:44then this can be done.
06:45This is called the solution to the problem.
06:47Mr. Fawad,
06:48you sat here and told the story,
06:50which is also right.