"If DG ISI was involved in politics, did the Army Chief not know about it?" Kashi Abbasi Asked Ques

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00:00First, in which the charge sheet has been made that he is involved in political activities,

00:04is this as DG ISI or after retirement?

00:06Of course as DG ISI.

00:07See, DG ISI was Khan's pawn.

00:09Why was Khan's blue-eyed boy?

00:11See, DG ISI…

00:12He is opening a Pandora's box.

00:14See, if DG ISI is a common DG ISI, that is also fine.

00:17But if it becomes a monster in the country,

00:20then on what basis has it become a monster?

00:22Because of the Prime Minister's blessings.

00:26And why was the Prime Minister doing all this?

00:28Because the information given by the Jinn ghost was a different thing.

00:31But DG ISI is not a Jinn.

00:33No, I have said that Jinn is a calamity.

00:37But the monster benefits you after many births.

00:42A lot of people will ask you this question.

00:45If you are saying that as DG ISI,

00:47he is involved in political activities,

00:49then how will you close the door that you are opening?

00:55See, you should have a lot of clarity in this.

00:58That Imran Khan used him.

01:00And he opened a good door.

01:02The most important thing is that Imran Khan used him a lot.

01:06Because he is in an ultimate power position.

01:08DG ISI.

01:09A very powerful position.

01:10Number one.

01:11Number two is that you will have to give this credit to the Chief of Army Staff, General Asim Ali.

01:16That in 70 years, he has laid the foundation

01:18that he is a powerful man in the category of justice.

01:21He will not survive.

01:22Okay, let me put it this way.

01:23If this is about whoever is involved in politics,

01:27as DG ISI,

01:28the general court will have a say over them.

01:33I agree with you that this is a big step.

01:36It is a bold step.

01:38I don't think this step has ever been taken in this country.

01:41Absolutely right.

01:42But people will have this problem.

01:45But you are using this word.

01:46That he will put everyone in trouble in the future

01:49because everyone's work is involved in politics in this country.

01:51Look, listen to me.

01:52One is political interference.

01:55And the other is state, political, democratic terrorism.

02:00National terrorism.

02:01This is terrorism.

02:02Okay?

02:03If you say that today the courts are not in politics

02:06or there will not be a particular section of the army,

02:09then it is based on terminologies.

02:11They overlook everything.

02:13So this is...

02:14Sir, but if DG ISI is involved in politics,

02:17then didn't the Army Chief know?

02:20You asked another valid question.

02:23Look, you can definitely blame Mr. Bajwa for this.

02:27Mr. Bajwa was given oversight on the basis of trust

02:30because he had a powerful man, his army,

02:33and his boss, the Prime Minister.

02:36When both of them got together,

02:38Mr. Bajwa had no side.

02:40His trust remained.

02:41No, no.

02:42The Chief.

02:43No, no.

02:44The Chief is also a human being.

02:45When there is a veil of trust on the eyes,

02:47then he does a lot of work.

02:49The work that Madam is doing,

02:50she is doing it in the veil of trust.

02:52When the trust opens,

02:53then the nation will know.

02:54Okay?

02:55The Sultan has drowned in trust.

02:56People have been hanged in trust.

02:58Shahnawaz Bhutto's martyrdom took place in trust.

03:01A lot of martyrdoms took place in the family of Shahnawaz Bhutto.

03:03So one thing is to keep a lot of clarity that

03:05DG ISI was also involved.

03:06Sir, I will tell you one thing.

03:07And what did he want?

03:08What did he want?

03:09In the last few years,

03:10I have very little exposure regarding

03:13how the institution works.

03:16Because my security has never been beaten.

03:18I have never worked on it.

03:19It was always my political outlook.

03:21I used to watch politics.

03:23Two or three times,

03:24there was a question that I tried to see

03:27that where is politics going?

03:29Is it possible that

03:30there is something going on inside the house against the Chief?

03:33It's an old thing.

03:34So every time he used to tell me,

03:36Kashif sir, you don't know the army.

03:37There is no such thing in the army.

03:38I mean,

03:39whether it is of this side or that side,

03:42I used to hear it again and again in one sentence.

03:44Kashif sir, this cannot happen in the army.

03:47And whether it is retired in absolute terms

03:49or we talk about serving,

03:51it doesn't happen that the Chief is one man.

03:54He runs the army.

03:55And it runs the way it runs

03:57because of one unitary command.

03:59Look, listen to me, Kashif sir.

04:00If the Chief is trusting a man blindly,

04:03okay,

04:04and he is playing on his trust,

04:06and the Democratic boss of the Chief,

04:10the Prime Minister,

04:11is giving him shelter,

04:13then the matter is over.

04:14If you are saying something

04:15and along with you,

04:16the owner of the airway is also a conspirator,

04:19then that's the end of the story.

04:20No one can do anything here.

04:21Here all the checks and balances will be over

04:23in this office.

04:24There is clarity in this.

04:25But see,

04:26when you talk of

04:27owners of a TV channel

04:29and a journalist,

04:30it's a different story.

04:32But let's talk about an institution

04:34which has a Chief and DGSI.

04:35The Chief appointed DGSI.

04:37A trusted man becomes DGSI.

04:40So that's why I…

04:41DGSI was appointed by the Prime Minister.

04:44The Prime Minister listened to the continuation.

04:46And you will give credit to Mr. Bajwa

04:48that when he got a little bit of information,

04:51he removed DGSI and Faiz Ali.

04:55Let's see where it goes.

04:57Mr. Zubair,

04:58I am coming to you with this question.

04:59Let me first ask Mr. Wada.

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