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00:00I was also in the health insurance industry, so I had a total of about 1 million yen.
00:06I did a lot of tests, and at first I thought it was 30,000 yen, but if you look closely, it's 300,000 yen.
00:12You're going to do that with a test?
00:14The theme of tonight's deep talk is...
00:17As soon as you find out you're infertile, the world will change 180 degrees.
00:22I've never thought of it that way before.
00:28If you work hard, you'll get results.
00:32I'm going to do my best to achieve what I haven't decided.
00:36But there are bad things.
00:40It's like going through a dark tunnel.
00:44I don't think there's anything like the pain I've experienced before.
00:51Now, about 4.4 million Japanese couples are experiencing infertility.
00:57It's hard to identify the cause, and it's easy to prolong the test.
01:02It's called an endless treatment.
01:05So, the theme of tonight's deep talk is...
01:09The reality of infertility treatment.
01:12Infertility treatment was approved in 2022.
01:16However, there are certain conditions for approval.
01:19You have to be approved six times.
01:23If you don't get approved six times, you'll be infertile.
01:27So, I want to have a baby before I'm approved six times.
01:32I'm worried about that.
01:36The number of times you can get an abortion approved by insurance
01:40varies depending on your age.
01:42As you get older, the number decreases.
01:46I started when I was 40.
01:48I only got approved by insurance three times.
01:51I have two more to go.
01:53If I don't get approved by insurance, I'll be infertile again.
01:58I don't get approved by insurance at that time, so I'll probably be over 1 million.
02:03It's been about two months since I started going to the doctor.
02:06I've reached the age of not being approved by insurance.
02:09In the first place, there are many people who choose infertility treatment
02:13because they are old.
02:15If I don't get approved by insurance,
02:17I can only go to some people who are infertile.
02:21In addition, it is very difficult to balance
02:25psychological and physical burdened infertility treatment and work.
02:30I quit my job.
02:33The timing of the abortion is
02:35told to come on this day, this day, and this day next week.
02:40If I were working,
02:43I wonder if I can adjust so much.
02:46It was my favorite job.
02:48If I don't quit that job,
02:50I can't choose this kind of treatment,
02:53and I can't have a baby.
02:55It's hard.
02:57I think the field of childcare, prenatal education,
03:00care, and treatment is probably getting stronger.
03:04I think the field of infertility treatment is really
03:07a field that even large companies do not have the accuracy yet.
03:10I think it's okay to have a little more.
03:14In addition, there are many women who are hurt by the casual words of people around them.
03:19I want to cover my ears honestly
03:23about the reports of pregnancy around me,
03:26the fun stories with my children.
03:29I'm not making a baby.
03:31I'm thinking about it.
03:33I'm hurt because I'm asked easily,
03:38but it's hard to say that I'm doing infertility treatment.
03:44So, tonight, we will learn deeply about the reality of infertility treatment.
03:50The night when a man and a woman are in deep love.
03:58This program is a talk variety for adults talking about deep themes.
04:02I think I'll learn a lot about infertility treatment again this time.
04:05Did you have any mental problems?
04:08Did you have any words that you didn't want to say?
04:14My parents said,
04:17I'm not a child yet.
04:19Show me your face.
04:21I think it's hard for women.
04:25Especially when I was in the middle of treatment,
04:28I said, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
04:33You have to know a lot of things.
04:35After a few years of marriage,
04:37you think you have children.
04:39But there are more people who are doing infertility treatment than you think.
04:42You have to remember that.
04:44Yasuda-san, did you have any words that you didn't want to say?
04:50When I was told,
04:52I'm a child because I'm married.
04:54I said, I'll do my best.
04:57I'm doing infertility treatment, but I can't say that.
05:00I thought I was doing my best.
05:03There's no hope that you can do it.
05:07It's getting harder and harder.
05:10There was someone who was doing infertility treatment with me.
05:12I got a call saying, I did it.
05:15I said, congratulations.
05:17I felt complicated and had a hard time.
05:21I thought I was going to lose my mind.
05:24I turned off the switch in my heart.
05:27I couldn't feel anything.
05:29You don't like it, do you?
05:32It's not a sense of guilt that you can't be happy to have a child.
05:36I hated myself.
05:39I was losing my mind.
05:42I see.
05:44I was an athlete, so I was often thought to be mentally strong.
05:48When an athlete trains like this,
05:50the performance gets better and the results come out.
05:53I felt the response in my work so far.
05:58I thought the treatment was good.
06:01But I didn't think it was the right answer until I had a baby.
06:05It was hard for me.
06:08Until a while ago, there was a time when men took a day off from work.
06:15Is it easier to take a day off now?
06:21I didn't know my manager at the time.
06:24I didn't have that kind of experience yet.
06:29But I thought I should do my best at work.
06:33It was hard for me to understand.
06:36I don't think people understand it yet.
06:40I understand that you take a day off after you get pregnant.
06:44But don't you feel like you're taking a day off even though you're not pregnant?
06:49I think it's hard for people who work in the office.
06:55After I got pregnant, I was asked how many days I should take a day off.
07:00I wanted to make a plan, but it was up to my body.
07:03I had to act according to the flow.
07:07I couldn't take a day off in advance.
07:11Pregnancy treatments are often suddenly scheduled to determine the date of birth depending on the condition of the male.
07:19In addition, since the condition of the male has to be checked frequently,
07:24the frequency of sealing is increased once or twice a week.
07:28The current situation is that it is very difficult to keep up with work.
07:32So you don't ask the doctor for a few days off?
07:37It depends on the condition of the male.
07:41How many companies understand that you take a day off?
07:48I don't think it's possible to keep up with work.
07:53There is a company that provides a support system.
07:58It's about one-fourth of the company.
08:02It's about 10% of the company.
08:09It's about 73.5% of the company.
08:13The support system is not in place.
08:16When I went to the clinic, there were many people waiting in the waiting room while working.
08:25There were many people who quit their jobs because they didn't want to quit their jobs.
08:35There were few people around me who worked at a company.
08:41There were a few people who saved their jobs to get a job.
08:47I think it's tough to work at a company.
08:52There are people who don't want to work at a company.
08:55How can I tell my boss about this?
08:58I think there are a lot of problems.
09:00But it's better to be able to say that.
09:04Have you ever had a hard time?
09:06Mentally, it is said that work is the worst in a qualified environment.
09:11It's best not to work.
09:15It's good for your mental health.
09:17No stress.
09:19It's said that it's best not to work and go on a trip.
09:24But if you don't earn money, what are you going to do?
09:30You have to step on both the accelerator and the brake.
09:34You have to earn money and you have to take a break from work.
09:38It was the most difficult.
09:40I see.
09:42Did you have a hard time?
09:45First of all, it's money.
09:47At that time, I was still in the health insurance industry.
09:51I had a lot of tests.
09:53When I said I would pay, I thought it would be 300,000 yen.
09:57But it was 300,000 yen.
10:00What?
10:01Did you do that for a test?
10:03I made a mistake twice.
10:05300,000 yen for a test?
10:07How many patients did you have every time?
10:10At that time, it was the price of the health insurance industry.
10:14It was a big difference.
10:16It's expensive.
10:17There are a lot of drugs that improve blood flow and make it easier to maintain pregnancy.
10:24There are a lot of drugs to take.
10:27It's not the amount of drugs that you usually get.
10:32How much does it cost?
10:34There are hundreds of thousands of units.
10:37Is the drug that expensive?
10:39I was also in the health insurance industry.
10:42I put a card in my account.
10:44It costs 100,000 yen, 200,000 yen, and 300,000 yen.
10:47It costs that much every time.
10:49It costs about 100,000 yen a year to freeze the urine.
10:55Money is the most difficult thing.
10:58I see.
10:59Did you have a hard time, too?
11:01I was also in the health insurance industry.
11:04The last time I had a hemorrhage, I had to pay back 300,000 yen.
11:11It cost me about 1 million yen in total.
11:15I see.
11:16There are people who have a hard time financially.
11:24My friends around me decide how much they want to spend.
11:28They decide to spend 2 million yen or 3 million yen.
11:32They decide by age or money.
11:35They can't see the end.
11:37I see.
11:38I think there are a lot of people who decide by age or money.
11:43I spent about 3 million yen in total for three years.
11:48That's expensive.
11:50I spent 400,000 yen or 500,000 yen.
11:53It was a little expensive.
11:55I see.
11:56I can understand the situation of people who decide to stop here financially.
12:05Yes.
12:06Did you have a hard time financially, too?
12:09Yes.
12:10There are various options.
12:13You can choose the technology.
12:15If you choose this option, you may have a higher probability.
12:20You may think it's better to choose this option.
12:23It's usually against health insurance.
12:26It's very expensive.
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