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In this episode, we examine the profound effects of parental neglect on adulthood, sparked by a listener's frustration with their parents. I discuss the internalization of worthlessness that arises from dysfunctional childhoods and the distinction between self-worth derived from virtue versus superiority. We confront the challenges of breaking the cycle of emotional detachment and explore themes of repentance and redemption through biblical reflections. I encourage listeners to reflect on their experiences, pursue self-acceptance, and seek truth, fostering personal growth amidst these deep issues.

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00:00All righty, good morning everybody. More questions from freedomain.locals.com
00:07and we've got a theme I guess has been the case for a couple of months about the question of
00:12neglect, parental neglect and its effects. So somebody writes long time subscriber here
00:20and just of course the inevitable and natural pause to say thank you, thank you, thank you for
00:25all of your very kind support. I massively appreciate it. I humbly accept it and I hope
00:32always that I'm providing the value that makes it worthwhile. So if there's anything I can do
00:36better please let me know. So he says my parents were neglectful and I've expressed my frustration
00:44and anger at them. I told them I think they suck as people and as parents. I've gone through some
00:51significant therapy involving journaling and have no one in my life who is a pile of crap,
00:59just leaves my amazing wife. At this point I will take that as a win. He says I still feel a little,
01:05I think it's a he, I still feel a little down sometimes with some minor thoughts of my crap
01:11childhood and the neglect I faced. I think I may be missing something as to why I sometimes get
01:17down and would love your thoughts. Thanks. All right so neglect, neglect, neglect. So
01:25the basic equation of a dysfunctional childhood and unfortunately as adults this is kind of the
01:30equation of society as a whole, less now in many ways than in the past, but this is the equation
01:39of survival as a child in a dysfunctional family and in a dysfunctional society. The equation is
01:45this. To survive, believe the lies. To survive, believe the lies. That believing the lies is
01:55the price of staying alive. That's just the equation and we are drawn to truth as conceptual
02:03beings, as beings with universal minds, we are drawn to truth. That is the soul, the spirit,
02:12the essence of humanity. But of course as biological creatures, as mammals we are also
02:18drawn to survival and really the fact that we've managed to hang on to our capacity for conceptual
02:24truth despite tens of thousands of years of attacks against the truth tellers, I was really
02:31testament to the almost divine radiance of the truth and its struggle to survive. So the truth
02:40is a mammal and the lies are the dinosaurs and we are just struggling to get to the truth without
02:49being crushed or at least too badly and so to survive, believe the lies, is the equation that
02:56you need to process. So if your parents think that you're worthless, what does that mean?
03:03And neglect or you are without value, you are uninteresting, you have to unpack
03:10all of the things that go on in the minds of parents who neglect their children. I mean
03:15parents who physically abuse their children, the child is an irritant and an annoyance
03:20and children who are verbally abused by their parents, the children are misshapen and need
03:26to be hammered into perfection by harsh words and with neglect the story is that you as a child
03:36are uninteresting, unstimulating, unworthy of attention and that's just who you are. Or who
03:44you are is who you aren't. You aren't interesting, you aren't worthy of attention, you aren't worthy
03:49of feedback, you aren't worthy of these things. So who you are is who you aren't. Your existence
03:55is a negation, is an absence, is an avoidance. That's all very tough and again sort of massive
04:02sympathies for having this perspective where children are delightful and children are to
04:08be delighted in. Anybody who doesn't take delight particularly in their own children
04:14is a hollow soulless creature whose heart exists as a black hole to draw the light of the universe in,
04:20absorb and destroy it in many ways. So when you were a child you were told either explicitly or
04:28implicitly that you were worthless, you were uninteresting and the only sane response to
04:36somebody that radically understimulating was to avoid and neglect them. So why would parents
04:45have a child and then communicate to that child that the child is worthless,
04:50not even worth yelling at, not even worth hitting? Why would parents go through all
04:57the time, trouble, expense and occasional exhaustion to have a baby, raise a child
05:04and then indicate to that baby slash child that he was uninteresting, unworthy of attention,
05:10worthless? Well there's two equations to value in the human mind. There's two equations
05:20to value and you can think of them as the equal sign and the better than sign.
05:27You have the equal sign and you have the better than sign. Now the equal sign is I have value
05:33because I am equal to virtue. I am equal to virtue. I have these morals and I strive to
05:43achieve them and I achieve them in a reasonably safe and consistent manner and I correct myself
05:50with regards to these virtues without the lazy abuse of self-attack. I have these virtues. I'm
05:57equal to these virtues. Me equals virtue equals good stuff. I think we can all understand that.
06:05So that's one equation pursued by a tragically tiny minority of people in general. Now
06:13that's a hard path to value. I mean it's worthwhile. It's the only thing that's going
06:17to bring you long-term love and sustainable happiness and so on but it's a hard path to
06:20virtue. Let's be frank. So that's number one. Number two is the greater than.
06:28So one is I am equal to virtue. The other is I am greater than. I am greater than you.
06:36I am better than you. I need you to stay small so that I can feel big. I'm bigger than. I'm
06:47better than. I'm superior to. And in the first one you reject immorality and in the second one
06:54you reject in general helpless people who are dependent upon you and it gives you a flash of
06:59power that people are dependent upon you and you threaten or reject them and lo and behold you feel
07:08flash of power. You feel strong. You feel powerful and in charge and in control and so on right.
07:18So that's there's equal to virtue or better than others. Superior to others. So one is
07:25an equation of conformity with virtue and the other is a hierarchy of superior to others.
07:35Now I know that the nitpicking hive mind of the free domain community and the future planet will
07:40say to me and it's right to say so. It's a good point to question to point out. You're right to
07:45say to me but what's deaf. If you pursue virtue don't you want to be better than evildoers and
07:51don't you want to be better than you were the day before. That is all fair and fine and valid but
07:58it's what you're measuring yourself to. So if let's say you put the picture of a slender person
08:06on your fridge and you want to lose weight. Well of course you're going to track your weight and
08:10you want to be lighter than you were last week or last month for sure but it's relative to the goal
08:17of at least approximating the picture of the slender person on your fridge. So that's what
08:21you're measuring yourself by. Now part of that measurement is how you're doing relative to
08:24yesterday or the day before but in essence it is relative to the goal. I mean if you want to
08:31drive to Vegas of course you need to track on your GPS that you're actually getting closer to Vegas
08:36but your primary measure is getting to Vegas. That's the goal and you measure stuff relative
08:43to that. Now if though your only goal is to be slightly thinner than the people around you
08:51then that's not relative to an objective goal that's relative to other people. So if they
08:58weigh 300 pounds and you weigh 290 pounds you feel slender. If they go up to 350 pounds and
09:04you weigh 340 pounds you still feel slender. So it's relative to others not relative to
09:10facts, reality, the truth, all of that kind of good stuff. We can all understand that. So
09:16what is your value? What is your worth? Are you valuable and do you have worth relative to
09:23objective morals or do you have value and do you have worth because you are superior
09:32to other people? Good versus better than. So you can have a good meal, a meal that's
09:40healthy and tastes good and all of that. That's a good meal or you can have a better than meal
09:47and of course a better than meal is saying well it's better than prison food
09:53and moms when I was a kid used to say this you know if you didn't like the food they would say
09:58well it's better than starving kids who you know starving kids and you don't have any food this is
10:05better than that. So are you in pursuit of goodness which is relative to an objective standard
10:14or are you in pursuit of better than equals or greater than. Now if you are in pursuit of being
10:25better than then you have two options. So this is a subclass. So you have two options.
10:32One is that you surround yourself with people who are fantastic and you continually excel in
10:38your skill to try and beat them in win-lose situations. So for instance of course a tennis
10:45player who wants to feel like a good tennis player has two choices. Number one he can train like
10:51crazy, he can enter into competitions, he can play against the best tennis players around and see if
10:57he can win and that's win-lose right. So if you win a tennis game a tennis match the other personal
11:02player loses the tennis match you can't both win at the same time it's win-lose and that's fine I
11:07mean that's part of life there's nothing wrong with that. Capitalism is win-win from producer to
11:13consumer but it's not win-win consumer sorry producer to producer because if you know if you
11:19go buy one brand of car versus another brand of car then it's win-win for you and the car
11:25manufacturer but the other car manufacturers lose your business and it's tragic for them and
11:29they need to up their game or change or do something to make things better. So if you
11:37want to win then either you surround yourself with winners and try to beat them or you surround
11:44yourself with losers and feel superior. You see where we get into the neglect equation here right
11:51we get to the neglect equation. So you can either be somebody who really really wants to
11:59diet and exercise and be super fit maybe enter a body builder or fitness competitions or
12:05something like that but you're competing against the best of the best and that's your big goal and
12:08and that's great it's fine it's certainly going to provoke excellence in one form or another or
12:15you can just be the slimmest of a fat bunch or the least fat of a fat bunch.
12:21So when it comes to wanting to feel superior you can either measure yourself against the best or
12:28surround yourself with the worst and be better than them. So I'm sure this all makes sense right
12:35Follow this equation man. Now how do you gain value by being better than other people?
12:45Well because you're measuring yourself relative to them and either this will push you to excellence
12:50or you'll end up surrounded by mediocrities and feel better than them. Now of course if
12:55you're surrounded by mediocrities and your self-esteem comes from being better than the mediocre
13:01then you are opposed to their success. You are opposed to their success. You will undermine and
13:10sabotage their success because you need to feel superior to them. So if they get if your goal is
13:17to surround yourself with mediocre people and then feel superior to them then if those mediocre
13:23people start to improve start to get better then this threatens your entire machinery of
13:29selfhood right. So that is the challenge. If you are surrounded by people you want to compare
13:37yourself to them and you want to feel like you're the best objectively rather than the best around
13:44right. You know the sort of this sort of this cliche of the prettiest girl in the small town
13:50she's a 10 in the small town she goes to Los Angeles or Hollywood or New York or some place
13:56where there's an aggregation of very pretty people and the girl who's a 10 in the small
14:00town becomes a 6 or 7 in the big town and I was like the number one actor in my university. I went
14:05to a theater school and I was sort of middle of the pack and I think that's good. Now of course
14:13you can't achieve excellence if you surround yourself with mediocrities and so if your goal
14:19is to achieve excellent to be not better than but the best then you have to surround yourself
14:26with good people because otherwise you feel shame at beating people who are unworthy of your
14:35skills. So the old Mike Tyson beating up some girl guide I mean he can win the fight pretty
14:41sure of that but he's probably not gonna feel overly proud at that situation. So if you want
14:47to be the best you have to surround yourself with people who are really good you have to embrace
14:51the challenge of measuring yourself against those who are excellent and that's because you're not
14:57lying to yourself and saying that you're good because you're better than mediocrities. And
15:02there is of course an old Christa Burke song about this. Hollywood is just a dream when you're only
15:0717 it's wonderful something like that and you know the sort of the small town girl goes to the big
15:14city trying to cash in on her looks it turns out she's kind of average and she thrashes around for
15:19quite some time and then maybe goes back and same thing happens of course the guy who's the best
15:25actor in his high school tries to make it as an actor it turns out there are a lot of really good
15:29actors out there and so he doesn't really get very far and all of that is sorting mechanism is
15:35natural. So the most pathetic form of self-worth is to have children and reject them. So there's
15:46sort of three hierarchies in terms of virtue. Number one to be good to be virtuous that's
15:53number one. Number two is to be excellent at whatever you're doing could be business could
16:01be stock trading could be a business as a whole it could be sports to be excellent and excellent
16:08is you know relative to your time skills ambition and so on right. So number one is to be virtuous
16:13number two is to be excellent number three is to be wanted to be needed. So the modern economy used
16:22to be based on virtue then it became based on excellence and now the massive swaths of the
16:30economy are based on being wanted. I mean you think of sort of the the number of women showing
16:36TNA online and the Instagram thirst traps and all of that so to speak to be wanted right.
16:42People want your lifestyle they want your physique they want your boyfriend and all of this right.
16:48So to be wanted to have people envy you. So in the first thing your conscience is satisfied because
16:56you are at a reasonable place relative to your moral values. In the second one you're better than
17:02but you've striven for excellence as a whole but in the third one you're just in a
17:09situation where you're provoking envy and the fact that other people want to be you or need
17:15things from you or want your life that is you have value because people envy you. Now the first
17:22virtue is win-win the second is win-lose but society as a whole wins because you get excellence
17:30right. So somebody who's really really ambitious to be the best evangelist for bitcoin say well
17:37if he or she is the best evangelist for bitcoin and other people lose out to that he gets the
17:42prime speaking spots and book deals or whatever it is tours and other people don't get that he's
17:47win-lose for them but society gets the best evangelist for bitcoin. But the third one is
17:53win-lose for society as a whole win-lose for society as a whole and this is really
18:00one of the greatest tragedies around. The cheapest like so at least you know women who flash their
18:07butts online at least we assume to some degree they have to have nice butts like they have to
18:11work out or something like that right so there's some effort involved there. The least effortful
18:19way of believing that you have value imagining really well no you do actually have value
18:26is to have kids and then ignore them when you have kids and you ignore them
18:32then those kids are when they're young they're constantly reaching out for you
18:36they're crying for you they run to you and you do get this kind of sick satisfaction of being needed
18:43of being wanted of having people hungry for your time and presence and attention and so on right
18:50so then you can say well I have value because people need me I have value because people need
18:57me out there in the world people don't really need you right does that follow like out there
19:03in the world people don't really need you I mean there's an old statement that says no matter how
19:08irreplaceable you feel at work they've hired some new guy two weeks after you your retirement or
19:13death in some fiery car crash everybody who feels that they're so replaceable like Charlie Sheen was
19:19like the number one and highest paid television actor I think in history when he was on two and
19:25a half men and then he went on some bizarre tirade and he was gone and the world moves on
19:34oh he's irreplaceable right the the guy Chris Farley was a an obese comic who was I believe
19:41he was also a drug addict and so on and he did most of the voice for Shrek the animated movie
19:48Shrek and then he died and then I think there were three quarters done all of the audio for
19:54Shrek he died and what happened was Mike Myers came in and then Mike Myers did it and then I
19:58think he redid it in a Scottish accent for various reasons and so he was just yeah he just replaced
20:03he's just replaced what was it Bela Lugosi was famously in one of Edwards was Edwards
20:09Plan 9 from Outer Space somebody terrible movie and he died and his wife's chiropractor stepped
20:15in to finish the movie now I'm not saying it's equal quality I'm just saying Freddie Mercury
20:20dies and you get Adam Lambert and you had Paul Rogers stepping in to do vocals and they did a
20:25collaboration with George Michael after they heard George Michael do Somebody to Love at the 92
20:31Freddie Mercury tribute concert so yeah everybody's replaceable except to those you love and you're not
20:39replaceable so to have children and to ignore those children is have to have those children
20:45orbit you in a perpetual state of need which fuels the fires of vanity and self-worth and
20:52perceived value and so on so to have children and ignore children puts you in the state of
21:00constant value I mean it really is really is I mean I can't emphasize this really strongly
21:05enough it really is just about the most pathetic and tragic and exploitive way to have value
21:12but yeah to be wanted is just just awful just awful so yeah to believe the lies you're worthless
21:20is a lie that you have to believe in order to survive right and and it's funny because and I
21:26understand this of course right but we generally attach these because we have to lie convincingly
21:31right if our parents if our parents ignore us right and and we say I mean you're just a
21:38pathetic non-entity who can't even be bothered to spend time with his own children you sack of
21:43excrements you worthless parasite well I mean you know maybe that's too harsh or something but if
21:48you were to just say to your parents something like why would you have children if you didn't
21:53want to spend any time like what's the matter with you why don't you enjoy oh I'm busy or I'm tired or
21:59whatever and it's like yeah but I mean you you kind of owe me attention right I mean
22:03so so the moment that you start placing demands on people who will be using you as vanity props
22:07they will erupt in rage and all the people it's so funny right the people who say oh I just I
22:11don't have any energy and so on when you point out the immorality of what they're doing boy they
22:16suddenly have a lot of energy to get angry don't they I'm so tired I just got right rage rage rage
22:22so yeah that's a tragic and entirely predictable and we all know this stuff right on this stuff
22:28so if you are to confront your parents on them not providing what is necessary for you to thrive
22:34as a child what happens well you're saying that I'm not a vanity prop you need to serve me you
22:41need to provide things to me I am not a prop to be used for you to feel better I'm actually
22:46something you have to invest resources into and when you try to rescue people from the sort of
22:51vampiric exploitation of others to provoke envy to perceive value then you are trying to move them
23:00from exploitation to virtue and to be moved from exploitation to virtue is one of the toughest
23:06transitions known to man like it's really really really brutal to try and move someone from
23:13exploiting others to being virtuous and particularly if they've done it for years and
23:17of course by the time you can articulate any of this as a child I mean you're barely a child if at
23:22all anymore so you have to believe that you're worthless you have to internalize that because if
23:30you challenge your exploitive parents and you say you are bad for denying like for having children
23:37ignoring them is is really destructive and dysfunctional that it's it's immoral it's wrong
23:42if you're bad for all of that then you're taking them from a situation where they're they're an
23:48addict who relies upon you needing them to you saying no you you owe me you shouldn't exploit me
23:55you owe me well that's no good right that that's not what they're that's not what the equation is
24:00for that's not what they're in it for that's not why they had kids and so you're challenging their
24:05entire basis of value I mean the reality is like it's all just projection right so if your parents
24:10make you feel worthless it's because your parents feel worthless they feel so worthless that all
24:14they can do is provoke need in a child by keeping him home and ignoring him and that's the only way
24:19they can feel value so it's your parents who feel worthless and then they project that onto you so
24:24that they I mean it's it's really it's a desperate desperate addiction to this stuff and uh it's
24:29really I mean it's beyond awful it's beyond tragic and of course it is beyond uh monstrous so
24:35it's very dangerous to try and shift people from exploitation
24:40to virtue I mean it's really really dangerous to to try to do that so I think once you recognize
24:47that and you recognize that to survive believe the lies to survive believe the lies and but we
24:55internalized it like you know we are forced to do something and then we feel really bad about it and
24:59so on it's like no if you're forced to do something don't give it a second thought morally the
25:04immorality is on the people forcing you to do something and your parents forced you into state
25:08of dependence by keeping you home and ignoring you so the immorality is entirely on them so I
25:12hope that helps yes I'd love to know your thoughts on the philosophy of the thief on the cross in
25:17the bible he lived a life of crime repented and was saved moments before death I agree with your
25:24stance that the vast majority of people who have gone too far causing interpersonal damage are
25:29incapable of change but your perspective on the verse would be interesting here's the exact verse
25:35and I quote one of the criminals who were hanged railed at him Jesus saying are you not the Christ
25:41save yourself and us but the other rebuked him saying do you not fear God since you are under
25:46the same sentence of condemnation and we indeed justly for we are receiving the due reward of our
25:55deeds but this man has done nothing wrong ah okay sorry that's a bit of a confusing sentence
26:01the other rebuked him saying do you not fear God since you are under the same sentence of
26:05condemnation and we indeed justly for we are receiving the due rewards of our deeds
26:10but this man has done nothing wrong and he said Jesus remember me when you come into your kingdom
26:15and he said to him truly I say to you today you will be with me in paradise so what the heck does
26:20that mean so the Jesus rebuked him saying do you not fear God since you are under the same sentence
26:27of condemnation and we indeed justly for we are receiving the due reward of our deeds but this
26:31man has done nothing wrong and he said Jesus remember me when you come into your kingdom and
26:36he said to him truly I say to you today you will be with me in paradise so I don't know of course
26:45but my first thoughts are something like this so the fact that he's a thief and not a murderer
26:51and not a rapist the fact that he's a thief is important he stole property he stole property now
26:58thou shalt not steal is very important of course one of the ten commandments but relative theft
27:05so this man is receiving the death penalty for being a thief why was he a thief why was he a
27:11thief well he was a thief so why was he a thief and compared to what right he was a thief almost
27:18certainly because he had a terrible childhood people steal from society because society steals
27:22from them their childhood happiness in someone and doesn't give them any sympathy so you end
27:27up in a state of nature with society you don't care about society's property rights because
27:32society didn't protect you as a child why would you protect a loaf of bread from society if society
27:36didn't protect you for your entire childhood and when you talk about how bad your childhood was
27:40society rolls its eyes mocks attacks and condemns you so you're just in a state of nature so
27:44that would sort of be the one thing the second thing is okay so this guy's a thief
27:51compared to who right compared to jesus of course was in the in the heart of the roman empire
27:58and the roman empire was stealing half the planet it was stealing and ripping off half the planet
28:05and when the roman generals stole they got medals and promotions and pensions and villas and so on
28:12right so this guy is just a thief on the wrong side of the law right like the old statement
28:18about pirates that a big inefficient pirate is called the navy right the navy and jesus remember
28:26when you come into your kingdom is a cri de coeur it's a cry from the heart which says
28:33i am who i am to some degree against my will now again i'm a free will guy so i know that this is
28:42a little challenging and may of course be completely incorrect but when you have a
28:47really bad childhood the odds of you becoming a criminal become much higher so i think this
28:54cri de coeur this cry from the heart i i've been i don't know if you've ever seen this it's like a
28:59nuclear bomb like thermonuclear or something like that where somebody has a cri de coeur that just
29:08strikes into your heart like an arrow i remember one woman who was i think kind of selfish and so
29:13on at one point just muttered so lonely so alone and it just hit me like a horse horse's hoof to
29:21the chest just oof like a cri de coeur that she's so lonely and so alone and that's because she
29:27wouldn't negotiate she wouldn't give way she wouldn't meet other people she just wanted to
29:30dominate other people and she was always right and and the price of being in a relationship
29:34with her was having to take a fault for all the problems and so on and there the cri de coeur is
29:41when you say because you know bad habits give you immediate benefit right of course like drugs and
29:47self-righteousness and smoking and so on so bad habits give you immediate
29:51benefit and but the the costs accumulate in your heart right the costs accumulate in your heart and
29:59what happens is at some points it kind of erupts and and maybe it's the eruption of something new
30:07or maybe it's the eruption of something dying a dead cat bounce or whatever so your your bad habits
30:12give you immediate benefit that's mine right to give you immediate benefit and but there is these
30:19deep volcanic eruptions from time to time which is a sort of flashback from the future about the cost
30:25that you're incurring right so i think that the thief had a cry from the heart jesus remember me
30:34when you come into your kingdom remember me so this is about memory and about the past right
30:42and he's saying i want to join you i want to be with you and this is a cri de coeur where the man
30:48is saying i now accept and recognize the price of my bad habits and i wish for virtue i wish for
30:56virtue now why is it that these deathbed confessions are very important i mean obviously to
31:04christianity but to other belief systems as well why is it that deathbed conversions to virtue
31:12are rewarded with heaven i mean if you look at it of course from a temporal and objective
31:18perspective if this guy stole a whole bunch of stuff it wasn't like because he repents at the
31:24end that it wasn't like it doesn't return everything that he stole right it doesn't undo all
31:31the damage that he did so why is it respected and valued as a virtue to have i guess in this not
31:39deathbed death cross repentance why is it considered to be such a great value to repent at the end to
31:46to say i was wrong my whole life it's really bad i regret everything i did why well because it's
31:53about prevention not cure you can't cure the past you can't cure the past and you somebody gets
31:57killed they can't be brought back to life right so you can't cure the past you can only cure the
32:03future so deathbed repentances or death cross repentances which i would think is this category
32:09they are important because they are instructive to everyone else right so the woman and i won't
32:17go over all of them but the woman with the critique of so lonely so alone she was broadcasting the
32:25a price of self-righteousness of always having to be in the right that you're isolated so if
32:31somebody says you know this bit in the simpsons where some bomb is going off and the comic book
32:37guy is like i've wasted my life and the fact that you've seen that right now the fact that
32:43people writing a comic are saying that the comic book guy has wasted his life
32:48is sort of a critique from the writers as well as the character but that's important
32:53that's important like the loser ginger comic book store owner in big bang theory right he's
33:00constantly complaining and makes no money and has no girlfriend and right there's a price for
33:05eternal adolescence and that price is family children continuity there's a price for eternal
33:12adolescence i mean the peter pan characters of the big bang theory here and and the same thing
33:18they're supposed to represent that and of course the same thing in seinfeld right nobody hugs
33:21nobody learns anything and so the seinfeld character who's so who are selfish and exploitive
33:26end up like in satras no exit in a prison cell sniping at each other for ever so to speak right
33:34so the critique the reason why the deathbed confessions are so important is they warn
33:39other people from living that life so if a a thief sort of publicly and prominently disavows
33:46being a thief and talks about what a terrible and horrible and wretched life it was and so on
33:52then he's going to prevent other people from becoming thieves right so i would assume it has
33:56something to do with that right so he says jesus remember we me when you come into your kingdom
34:01and he says truly you will be with me in paradise you have repented and jesus of course knows that
34:08the bible is there he's got his disciples and that they will tell the story of the thief who repents
34:14and telling the story of the thief who recognizes how terrible it was to be a thief and how awful
34:18his life was and how all the wrong he did prevents other people from becoming thieves and i think
34:22that's why he gets to heaven if that makes sense all right thank you everyone so much please let
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