The Boston Bruins announced today that they have fired Head Coach Jim Montgomery, and have hired Joe Sacco as Interim Head Coach. Evan Marinofsky and Conor Ryan react to the news and give their thoughts on Sacco taking over head coaching duties. All that, and much more!
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00:00And I believe we are live. This is a true live Bruins beat. That's Connor Ryan. I'm
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00:27Evan, I'm here. How are you doing? Interesting times. Interesting times. But
00:35can't say surprising times either. You look at Jim Montgomery fired by the Bruins this afternoon.
00:45Came out around 420-ish. Bruins fired Jim Montgomery. Joe Sacco promoted as the interim
00:53head coach. He was the associate head coach. He was given that title over the summer. Been
00:59with the organization since 2014. Just sort of your initial thoughts.
01:05Yeah. I mean, as you said, I think it was all but inevitable when you look at that result on Monday
01:11against the Blue Jackets. Felt like a new low. And there's been a lot of lows this year in terms
01:16of these games where it feels like this team has completely bottomed out and hasn't really
01:21shown much of anything. But to lose in that manner to a team like Columbus that entered the
01:27game with one win in November, the same low event, listless hockey, a lot of lack of skill, which we
01:37all I think are well aware of now in terms of roster construction. And we'll obviously discuss
01:42that later on. But lack of will as well in terms of not doing enough, not making simple plays,
01:49fumbling the puck, all the things that you've seen from the Bruins throughout the year.
01:55It feels like something had to give. And I think you look at where the blame goes. I think some of
02:01it falls on Montgomery, obviously, in terms of not getting this team ready to go. But this is
02:08the first step in terms of what you got to do to try to give your team a kick in the ass. And you
02:13can't fire the players, right? You can't trade out six guys or something like that. So what has
02:20to be the result? It's moving on from Montgomery, a guy that's accomplished a lot here. But you look
02:25at the options available to the Bruins and the lack of results that you've seen there.
02:31I do think it's something where this is the first step. But again, that being said,
02:36now the pressure ramps up on Don Sweeney and Kim Neely, right? Like Jim Montgomery was the first
02:41guy up in terms of who's going to take the blame and pay the consequences for it. Now it falls on
02:47the guys that have assembled this roster that is underachieved to an extreme degree. They're the
02:53next ones up and it's going to fall on them in terms of their next moves and especially the
02:58players themselves to dig the team out of this, because right now it cost a good head coach a job
03:03in the NHL. Yeah, I obviously was it the right move? Yes. I mean, they needed a change. There's
03:11no doubt about that. I mean, it's kind of been obvious for the last couple of weeks,
03:15but it's not all his fault. And ultimately this lies on the players. I mean, this roster,
03:21and this is another thing we've said for weeks. This is sort of an extension of what we've said
03:25for weeks is, is this roster just bad? And the answer is probably, yeah. Like it looks like it,
03:33doesn't it? I mean, the amount of guys underperforming and, you know, coaches don't
03:38just get fired out of the blue, obviously eight, nine, and three start for Montgomery.
03:42He's also a lame duck coach. They didn't re-up him before the start of the year,
03:46but the Ross, I mean, just the sheer number of guys underperforming through the first month
03:52and not just underperforming, but like completely missing the mark. I mean, Jay fresh just tweeted
03:57out some of the player cards of guys like Beecher and Lindholm and Coyle and Zaka, and they are
04:02embarrassingly bad. And again, like the, just the sheer number of guys that are not
04:10coming close to doing their job. I mean, again, they got boot off the ice Monday night,
04:14five, one loss to Columbus. And, you know, again, it goes deeper than just head coach.
04:20And that's kind of what I want to talk to you about is this runs deeper than the head coach.
04:25And I do feel, I mean, happy for Joe Sacco, obviously he's a local guy from Medford,
04:31went to BU, played at Medford high, like has been here for 10 years now, like has obviously earned
04:36another shot at being a head coach. Yes, that's right. A terrier, a big day for the terriers for
04:41you. But again, I, like, I don't think this is going to be the turnaround you saw when Bruce
04:48Cassidy took over and it was like, all right, he just kind of lit a fire under the roster.
04:52I mean, they seem helpless and that's where like, I almost, I do feel for Joe Sacco a little bit
05:00in terms of like, this is a hard situation to try to take control of because, you know,
05:05you've heard the elite Friedman reports about, you know, the Swayman contract kind of looming large
05:10and they were behind after training camp and all these different things. And you got to step into
05:15that. I mean, and Diver was saying this to me last week on, on this podcast of like,
05:21like what difference is a new guy going to make? And I, you know, I just, they had to do this,
05:29obviously, but it's, this is not a, Oh, you know, they're 10 and O in their next 10 games and
05:34they're in second place and they're in a good spot. Like this is, I think this could be much,
05:40this is much deeper in my opinion. Yeah. I mean, as you said, you look at the turnaround they had
05:45under Cassidy. Yes. That was a team that was underperforming and you could make the case that
05:51the time had come at that point for a guy that had been there for a long time include Julianne.
05:55And again, it's kind of a, it's branching off from what we've seen in the last couple of years
05:59in the NHL where guys have such a short shelf life. Um, felt like probably time had come there,
06:04but with Bruce Cassidy coming in a guy who's, you know, gets put up to the, to the Bruins,
06:09uh, coaching staff that year. Um, a guy that, um, had it a little bit of a different approach
06:15from especially a guy like Claude Julian. You can make the case that him jumping in,
06:19changing things around with that group, um, and taking over Ross, but as you said, like
06:24they had really kind of, I think, plateaued under Julian, but still had Bergeron.
06:28You had crazy, you had David Postner, who was a budding superstar. You had guys, uh, you know,
06:34in the pipeline, at least of, you know, you, that was before like 2015 really took hold,
06:40but you had like the breast was a guy that was coming up. You had McAvoy felt like that was a
06:44team that again, was at the tail end York was a big prospect back then. Exactly. So, I mean,
06:49you look at that team that were they underperforming? Yes. They need a change in voice.
06:53Yes. But that felt like they were at the end of that kind of really arduous.
06:58Retool that they ran as opposed to a full on rebuild this team. Again, as you said,
07:03a lot tougher because you look at this team and beyond the fact you've got, you know, your team
07:08is missing a lot of depth. You guys, you have a lot of guys that aren't pulling their weight.
07:12Um, it's not like there's just one issue with this team, right? It's not like you look at
07:16the power plane, like, ah, the power play is killing them, which it is. Right. But that's
07:21not the only way is it, but that's not the only thing, right? Is, is that going to fix like the,
07:27the lazy passes going into the middle of the ice that are getting picked off? Uh, are you looking
07:32at a situation here where the, the, the Bruins are trying to, you know, find a spark or anything
07:40like that? Yeah. Like maybe that helps them get, uh, you know, the kick in the ass that you're
07:43looking for, but it, is it enough in terms of just the personnel in place that these players
07:50where the onus is going to fall on them, that, that they're going to dig themselves out of it.
07:54Like maybe, you know, the Bruins, I think are banking on the fact that a new voice kind of
07:58steps in and takes over. But I don't know if that's necessarily going to be the case with the,
08:03the talent or maybe lack thereof that is on this current team. You don't have four or five guys
08:08waiting, the wings ready to break through. You have guys who have a track record, right. Of
08:13a Pasternak and a McEvoy and they've all underperformed. Lace Lindholm's underperformed
08:17Jeremy Swainman's underperformed, but you still have way too many guys across the roster that are
08:22either in elevated spots where they probably should be a line or two below where they are.
08:27Our guys that are so lost in their own game that they're not, you know, like look at Elias Lindholm,
08:33like is, can he be a better player? Yeah, of course. But like, are you expecting just because
08:38Joe Sacco's in there, he's going to be like, no, I'm going to go back to not even the 42 goal
08:43Lindholm, but the guy that was a, you hope going into the year, what did we say? Like
08:4860.2 way forward. That's kind of what you're banking on.
08:52I also think they're teetering with this roster because as you said, like, you, you know,
08:56you have so many guys, you know, you have your Frederick's and your geekies and your Marshans
09:00that are, you know, a year on the last year of their deal, but then you've got a lot of
09:04money tied up in Elias Lindholm and Nikita Zadoroff and Jeremy Swainman. And again,
09:09Swainman, I think miss training camp, which we can get into in a bit
09:13on sort of how bad that was all handled at the time, which we again, talked a lot about at the
09:19time. Um, but you have a lot of money tied up in guys for a long time. And that's why I see some
09:24people saying blow this whole thing up. I don't think it's that easy. You have, you, you, you
09:28were littered with no movement clauses. You, you have the hand you're dealt. Like you can't do it.
09:34People need to, you can't, you can't, you can't. That's the other part. I don't know if you want
09:38to hear that because that sounds even worse, but that's the hand you're dealt. So people can stop
09:42with saying you just trade the whole roster because it ain't that easy. You can't, it is
09:46impossible to do. So, as you said, because of the no moves and the no trades and, and things like
09:50that. Um, and that's why you will get into trades in a little bit. You kind of have to work with
09:55what you have. And I think that the other thing is like, uh, for Sweeney and Neely, I mean,
10:01you know, Montgomery's gone. Now the first, you know, the, the first ax has come down. Um,
10:07it, you know, they have to turn this around because as everybody knows, once the Bruins
10:13start missing the playoffs, like I see a lot of people saying they need to fire Sweeney,
10:16they need to fire Sweeney. And clearly the roster moves this off season in the direction of let's
10:20out Panther. The Panthers isn't working. It's not working. I know, I know there's still time
10:25left in the year, but it isn't working. I get that. And Elias Lindholm, by the way,
10:29we were all on board with that signing. And again, it has only been a month. So, you know,
10:32little leeway, but if they start missing the playoffs, like that's when that, the Sweeney
10:38and Neely stuff would come down. Like, and I say, again, I see it. Uh, and I, people are saying,
10:43stop defending Sweeney. We're not Ryan's really got a hair across his ass, huh? Ryan's Ryan's
10:48pissed. But what I will say, and we're replying to see, we're replying to comments today. Um,
10:53ownership gave Sweeney and Neely like five out of five stars at the, at the preseason press
10:58conference. So they love them nearly. And Sweeney, by the way, our best friends,
11:02they, you know, so like, again, I don't think Neely's gonna, you know, just come out and fire
11:06Sweeney, um, after this start. And they also have a lot of money tied up in this roster.
11:11That's the other part too. So that's why, like, if they're firing Sweeney and Neely,
11:16that's at the, that's, you know, if they completely miss the playoffs or maybe it's
11:20not even just one missed playoffs, maybe it's two. And I'm not saying that's right. By the way,
11:25I'm saying that that's what I think will happen if they miss the playoffs. Um, even just after
11:30this year, like, I don't think it happens immediately. I think it's, it's longer down
11:34the road. What did Charlie Jacobs say before he, we even spoke during the end of the season
11:40availability last year, he literally went out and said he had full support of cam Neely and
11:45Don Sweeney before we even asked, like looking at the team. And we're not saying that's right.
11:50We're also not saying that that's like the right thing. I'm just saying what happened,
11:53what the ownership said, that was a mandate dictated from ownership in terms of what their
11:59expectations were. That was before we even asked. So people asking why the Bruins aren't firing
12:04Sweeney and Neely it's from ownership. They've given them a seal of approval before we even
12:09asked them questions last year. So if you want to talk about why that hasn't happened,
12:14that's where it is guys. Like that is where it's all coming from going into last year or this
12:20upcoming season. We were looking at Montgomery and you looked at the fact that he didn't have
12:24an extension. We saw that was the obvious one where it's like, what are you going to do there?
12:28We thought that was going to be most of the questions, but Jacobs to come out and pretty
12:30much say like, Hey, we we're sticking with, we have full faith in Sweeney and Neely.
12:36That's where their mindset is right now. Now, will that change if they don't make the playoffs?
12:41Will that change if the product that's on the ice, which has been terrible all season long,
12:48is that going to stay in place? If this team misses the playoffs, probably not. That's when
12:53the consequences are going to come, but I don't think you're going to see that until you get to
12:56the end of the year. I don't see the ownership group making those kinds of seismic moves
13:03before then. It's just, that's just their approach going into this year.
13:06No, they won't. And again, the coach is the easiest one to do. And that's what was,
13:10that's what happened here. And, and I think that, you know, something else that should be noted is
13:14I remember when Bruce Cassidy got fired, we, I think it wasn't understood how much he had lost
13:19the locker room. We can get into kind of the players and their response. Cause that's obviously
13:24a major storyline with this, but we don't know the inner workings of what happened with Montgomery
13:29there. We don't yet. I'm curious if stuff comes out, I'm curious if things leak out or whatever,
13:35but I, you know, we don't quite know yet how players felt and this and that, which again,
13:42we will get into. Because I think that, why don't we do it now? Why don't we do it now,
13:46Connor? Let's do it now. We'll do it live. We'll do it live, Connor. Obviously there's a lot of
13:52blame to be passed around. And I think the players are number one in terms of who you're
13:56going to blame, but I don't think it's just for the play on the ice. This is two coaches in three
14:01years and they've been two extremely successful coaches. I mean, the, the, everyone's tweeting
14:06the records. I don't have it right in front of me, but like Jim Montgomery's had an incredible
14:11record here. Um, one of Jack Adams, Bruce Cassidy had an incredible record here. One of Jack Adams.
14:17And yes, coaches are hired to be fired, but Bruce Cassidy was, I think five seasons and
14:22Montgomery didn't even hit halfway through, um, halfway through his third. So again, this core,
14:29right? Like we talk and we hear it all the time. We've heard it for two decades. Now this Bruins
14:35culture, Oh, everybody wants to come here. Every player, they want to be a part of, we know what's
14:40going on in Boston, that culture dead. Cause I gotta be honest, Connor, like, you know, okay.
14:47So they, they, they send out, they send Cassidy packing. Cause he's too tough on them. All right.
14:51They bring in Montgomery who brings us positive, you know, different approach or a little bit
14:55different. They kick him out after two, not even two and a half years. And again, I go back to like,
15:01you know, this leadership group, Pasternak, McAvoy, Coyle throw Carlo in there. Um,
15:10I think there's legitimate questions about those guys. I'm not saying trade them, which again,
15:14we can get into Coyle and Carlo, but like, that's the other part of it where it's like the leadership
15:18element, continuing this culture. I, I don't know how it exists. If you're turning over coaches,
15:25like the stable organizations don't do this and they're doing this.
15:31Yeah, I know. There's a legitimate question to be asked about just like the fortitude of this
15:36team and the, and the way they're playing. Cause as you said, the whole, uh, you know,
15:40narrative around Bruce Cassidy is that message had gone stale. Wasn't doing enough to encourage
15:46the players. Wasn't getting enough out of the younger players. All these, it was way too hard
15:50on them. All right. You opt for a different voice there in Montgomery and the results speak for
15:54themselves. And then you get to a point where, Oh, like Jim Montgomery at the tail end of it is
16:01taking his team to task, holding them accountable. Like a head coach should
16:05of like calling up Brad Martian who committed a shitty turnover in Utah and got called out for it
16:10for benching David Posenok, who's had multiple games where he's not done anything at all in
16:15terms of generating offense. Like, and you look at just the, the lack of respect team, like that
16:23game on Monday against Columbus watching from up top, like there's multiple times where you're,
16:30you're seeing it play out. And I'm thinking to myself, like, are they trying to get him fired?
16:33Are they trying to get their head coach fired? Because whether it's like the cost, the needless
16:38turnovers, David Posenok, your offensive conduit, the guy you're trusting to drag you along getting
16:44zero shots on goal, like so many guys just not pulling on the rope and responding in defense
16:50of their head coach, the guy that again, they wanted in terms of a guy that was going to bring
16:54a lighter tone and a different mindset from big, bad Bruce Cassidy, who now has a cup in Las Vegas.
17:01Right? So I just think you look at the way the Bruins have approached the players and the lack
17:07of response and just how awful the product has been on the ice, the lack of response, the lack
17:12of accountability. And that's something even Brad Martian mentioned after the game on Monday,
17:16he was talking about the power play in particular, but said that guys need to be
17:19more accountable and people have to be held accountable there. Like, are you talking about,
17:24like, that's not when you look at a guy like Morgan Geeky or Trent Frederick or these guys
17:29that have to be much better, like obviously, but when you're looking at guys that need to
17:34be held accountable on the power play, are you looking at David Posenok? Are you looking at
17:38Charlie McAvoy, who has not done much of anything up top on that power play unit?
17:44I think that's something where, yeah, there's, there's definite concerns about just the makeup
17:48of this team and the fortitude they have, because the Bruins have kind of let the players, you know,
17:53dictate a lot of what's going on. And they've leaned on that culture that has been instilled
17:58since Chara and Ricky and Bergeron, but those guys aren't there anymore. And like, again,
18:03Martian tries to, I think, do what he can, but if he's the only guy listening, the only guy setting
18:07the tone, you're going to have a pretty rudderless team. What do you know? The team looks pretty
18:11frigging rudderless right now. That's the thing. And, and I think you look at some of the comments
18:16made, you know, Montgomery, uh, Monday night saying, you know, Oh, it's, you know, for
18:19Swayman missing training camp, well, it doesn't help when you miss training camp. Um, and, and
18:24just, you know, you mentioned Martian's comments. I, I just, I wonder about that, that next core
18:30that we talk about all the time. And again, like, I, I still believe that Posenok, McAvoy, Swayman
18:36are too talented to trade. I know, you know, like people are, are advocating trade them,
18:42blow it all up. Um, that's impossible. That is really hard to do. And you know what?
18:48You, I get, I understand that people are frustrated right now and I don't want to sound like I'm just,
18:53you know, I got my Bruins colored glasses on, but this sucks, right? This is unwatchable.
18:59This is not fun. Think about if they completely bottomed out, think about for a second,
19:05if they completely bottomed out, I saw someone say like, we need a five-year rebuild.
19:09You have fun with your five-year rebuild. Now retool, you want to retool. I think that's what
19:16you go for. I think that's what you go for on this. I think that this rest of the season,
19:20yup. You can spend the next month or two trying to get back on track, but when push comes to shove,
19:24if you can trade someone and get a bunch of picks back or whatever, like I'm for it.
19:31I'm for it. I mean, you look at it, Evan, right? For people that want the full retool and get,
19:36you know, the, the top five picks and all that stuff. Like you worry that it's going to be a
19:41prolonged stretch of futility and miserable seasons where you only have one or two positives
19:46to build off of. But listen, it is the Bruins. They've got money. They're a proud original six
19:52franchise. Like that won't happen to them when they've got a committed, uh, ownership group,
19:56committed fans. It doesn't happen just like how it hasn't happened with the Montreal Canadiens.
20:02Well, the Detroit Red Wings who have been dog shit. So if you want a full retool,
20:07you want to look at James Hagan highlights and hope that he falls to you. This is your fault,
20:11by the way, Evan. I know. Look at what I did. I've done all this. You want to look at McKenna
20:16next year, someone like that. Go for it. Like maybe that works out, but it's a lot of teams
20:21that are pretty frigging motivated to get back into contention that are treading water or
20:26straight up drowning right now if you want to retool. So have fun if that's what you want.
20:30The Bruins, it's not a Ford. It's it's not going to be an option for them.
20:33That's why I this town. I mean, like I'm with you. I go nuts in Chicago. Yeah. Sorry. Uh,
20:39someone else mentions the Blackhawks as well. Blackhawks. And I was working out for them.
20:45Exactly. The player. It doesn't matter. Like that's again, like Buffalo doing
20:51Buffalo, San Jose, Anaheim. You want to be Anaheim? Do you want to be an Ohio man?
20:58You see what Zagros does? He does. His little lacrosse goal is on NHL.
21:02He's like, I didn't that dude in Boston. I, you know, well, Hags has been pushing for forever.
21:08I have, I have, uh, I I've been seeing all these clips on Twitter of Zegers,
21:12just like completely, completely just like depressed in Anaheim about how much he hates it
21:17because the fun has been drained out or whatever, like this, this town.
21:21And this is why we love Bruins fans. And you guys are awesome. You're passionate. You get mad when
21:26the team loses one game or two games in a row. Imagine where you are at the bottom for years.
21:32That is so unwatchable. Like it sucks. It is, it's not fun. And yeah, maybe 10 years down the road,
21:40you land a couple high end guys. That's years. You have to go through years of that crap.
21:46So again, like I just, you'll retool. Sure. And we'll get into trades and stuff. Cause I think
21:51that that's very legitimate and Marchand and all that stuff. And I we've been saying that for a
21:55few weeks of Frederick. Frederick's a perfect example. Do you think about Marchand like
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23:44think about this Bruins roster. We mentioned guys like McAvoy having to step up and be a leader and
23:49posture knock and coil and Carlo. And they, they just haven't been since 2023. I went,
23:55I went back and looked, these are the veteran leaders slash just vets on the roster that they
24:02have lost since I'm cracking up at Kevin's comment. Yeah. I can watch the Bruins will
24:10lose four one to Utah. I get, I it's coming. It is absolutely happening. But so since 2023
24:18on a more serious note, since 2023, Kevin, you got us all off track. Uh, since 2023,
24:23these are the veterans slash veteran leaders. The Bruins have, uh, lost Patrice Bergeron,
24:28Nick Foligno, Taylor Hall, David Creechie, Craig Smith, Tomas Nosek, Chris Wagner.
24:35I threw Jake Dabrowski in there for multiple reasons. Pat Maroon, Kevin Shattenkirk, Lena
24:40Solmark, James Van Riemsdijk. Now I'm not saying James Van Riemsdijk is your captain,
24:45but these are guys who take some of the leadership. I mean, Kevin Shattenkirk in that series,
24:50I think against the Leafs last year, stepped up, made a big speech and they ended up winning game
24:53seven. Like there are these little things. Who do they have now outside of Marchand that,
24:59that has that, like, I, I think it's a real leadership vacuum and it can't all fall, uh,
25:07on Brad Marchand. Yeah, no, exactly. I was, as you were mentioning there,
25:12like you look at a guy like Shattenkirk, like third pairing D was like in and out of the lineup,
25:16even in the playoffs, but made an impact in terms of that speech ahead of game seven against Toronto.
25:21You look at like Pat Maroon, who, uh, like barely played during the regular season coming back from
25:27that back injury, but dude like spoke after before and after like almost every game in the playoffs.
25:32Why? Cause it's a guy that's won three cups that has been through a whole bunch of battles,
25:36knows what to expect. And that's a guy that when the going gets tough, whether it's,
25:41uh, an extended, I wouldn't say lull because the pros right now don't look, they're coming out of
25:45a lull, but whatever this awful stretches, um, that's a guy you turn to in terms of accountability,
25:51especially within your own room. Pat Maroon's a guy you talk to when the Panthers are beating
25:56the crap out of you in a playoff game, you look to for a response or to steady kind of your,
26:01your overall game. That's why like a guy like Foligno, uh, you know, has had a lot of value
26:06over the last couple of years. That's why he was such a dependable guy in the room. Uh, even
26:10if he had kind of a, a lost year due to injury. So yeah, as you said, like beyond like Marchand,
26:17who's still like in this role where, you know, he's obviously been tenured, he's, you know,
26:22played under or alongside char and Berger on these guys. But after that, where does it fall?
26:27Like you've got veterans, you guys who have been here for a while, you've got the coils and the
26:31Carlos, but it's almost feels like, yeah, you need like a guy that is, you know, been outside
26:37of the organization. Who's been through a lot of battles that, you know, maybe isn't a, doesn't
26:42fix your scoring issues per se. Right. But like, you look at like the Panthers getting like Kyle
26:46Ocposo, who I obviously I know is retired, but those are the guys that teams that, you know,
26:52that are prioritized and are valued in the room. Like, I feel like they're missing two or three
26:56of those guys, which is not good when, again, I don't know who you're signing on the free agent
27:00market that has that kind of profile of that seniority and that experience. But, but yeah,
27:07I do think that's been missing. And that's something that maybe we all took for granted
27:11last year is we looked at the Bruins and yes, they were the money ball Bruins. They were
27:15a whole bunch of just plugging in guys with a little money available, but you could see why
27:20these guys had value, even if maybe it didn't translate on the score sheet, that accountability,
27:25that intensity, that steadying presence during the ups and downs of a game, a series, a week of
27:32regular season action a month, what have you. That is something that is valued. And right now
27:37it feels like there's not a lot of that steadying presence on, on the Bruins right now, whether it's
27:42the play on the ice or what you're hearing afterwards after every game, it's been a lot
27:46of the same kind of script in there. They're saying the right things they're saying there's
27:50no excuse for it, but you need like someone like Pat Maroon or Nick Foligno come in and,
27:55and, you know, rattle some cages. You're not getting any of that right now from
27:59anyone in that room. You aren't. And, and I think that's the biggest thing of, you know,
28:04you can say this over and over again, and you can say, we, you know, Charlie Coyle,
28:08Monday night, we need to be more vocal and step up and say things. They still are not
28:12winning board battles. They're still not hustling to far posts. They're still not covering guys.
28:17I mean, um, the game over the weekend, uh, blanking on who they played Saturday,
28:22the games are so boring. Um, it all comes together now. Who was it? Blues. Yes. Um,
28:29the goals in front, like just not covering guys, you know, like, and that's it. And just the lack
28:34of discipline, the lack, and, you know, you even see like, there was a play, uh, Monday night
28:38against the blue jackets where Pekin's door off for passing back and forth to each other in front
28:42of their own net, kind of just slowly moving into their own zone. And Columbus is like,
28:46Oh hell yeah. We're just going to intercept this and get a scoring chance out of it. And like,
28:49it's, it just continued. And I, I, you know, you look at some of the off season signings and they,
28:55they obviously lost a lot of vets and that, you know, that yes, they got better with Elias
28:59Lindholm on paper. They got better on paper with Nikita Zdorov who has been horrific through one
29:05month. I mean that like him and Lindholm, but the door off stuff has been bad. And I think a little,
29:12very concerning. Um, but again, like Max Jones, like again, they tried to be the Panthers,
29:17uh, Riley Tufte. Um, I know I'm forgetting people, um, but just, you know, size and
29:26veteran leadership and stuff didn't really matter. And I just, it's coming back to bite them. Cause
29:31you know, again, the swayman stuff happens. They've been behind the eight ball since day one
29:35of camp when they didn't have swayman. He didn't, you know, he didn't participate in training camp.
29:40You, I texted you and Ty Anderson this, this morning, like it's almost like, you know,
29:45the swayman stuff, plus the fact they let their coach go in the season as a lame duck
29:50didn't end well. I mean, you know, either give Monte Montgomery an extension or don't or fire
29:56him, which they fired him. Um, but to enter the year and with no deal for him, I don't like,
30:03what was the end game with Montgomery? That was the other part. Like, yeah.
30:06Yeah. I mean, that's the whole thing is like maybe the, you know, his fate was sealed already
30:12going into the year in terms of not giving him a contract, but even going back to what you said
30:16about like the construction of this roster and yeah, they, they got bigger, stronger, meaner,
30:20whatever you want to say. It hasn't led to any results in the regular season and you can't
30:25build a team for the playoffs if they're not even going to make the playoffs. Right. But you also
30:29look at what they, they all said during the end of season availability in terms of what this team
30:34needed. And it's stuff that makes you think, all right, they want to be like the Panthers, but
30:39the Panthers also like, aren't a group of like hulking six, five guys, right? Like
30:46what Sweeney, uh, and nearly both said nearly mentioned they needed to get faster.
30:51That was he on is quoted that they needed to get faster. And Sweeney mentioned secondary scoring
30:57and what did they do? They got a whole lot slower and they let all their secondary scoring leave
31:02and free agency. And again, rolled the dice on a lot of guys on the team coming off the career
31:07years that were banking on that being the norm. And that's a whole lot of risk invite in terms
31:12of a team that, again, when you add in the fact that they're losing board battles, they're not
31:17a quick on the puck. Like I feel like, like the Panthers have just broken this team in terms of
31:22like what lately you prioritize, how you approach things because like, yeah, you've got like Chuck,
31:27who's a big body and is a shitster. You've got a few bigger guys on that blue line, but like,
31:34you know, I think that you look at being, uh, you know, better equipped for the playoffs.
31:38And it's like, oh yeah, it's a door off six, six. It's like a freight train. When you look at like
31:42the highlight reels, but like, I don't know, you go to the playoffs is Sam Bennett, the most
31:46intimidating dude. So you have a big guy or anything like that? No, no. But how does he play?
31:52How does he play? He plays hard. Yeah. And they have so many guys that even if they aren't
32:00fitting the profile of six, three, uh, you know, a bunch of Pat Maroons or anything like that,
32:05they have a whole bunch of guys that skate hard, close in on the puck carriers, make things happen,
32:10cause chaos. Like why is it, is it a surprise that, um, the only group of forwards this whole
32:16year that have been skating hard, closing in forcing turnovers, the Kepke castle beacher line,
32:21it shouldn't be any surprise. They're the one line that has been pretty solid, at least for a
32:25stretch this year. It like, it comes down to guys that are going to play hard, skate hard and cause
32:31chaos. And that's what you need in the regular season. That's what you especially need in the
32:35playoffs. When a lot of the skill and open ice is really negated. Um, and the Bruins again,
32:40said all the right things in may when you're like, all right, this team's got a lot of money.
32:44They, they seem like they know what this team needs in terms of remaining competitive,
32:49uh, moving forward and then kind of shifted gears into a group that is slow to win battles
32:54as slow to puck races, all those things that have them now is this product that I don't even know
33:00what to make of it. Other than it's really frigging ugly, Evan. It is ugly. I want to get into sort of
33:05what they should do from here. Um, the future of Joe Sacco and sort of what that is going to look
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34:32sure there were some many comments saying how much fans are excited to go to Bruins games from now on.
34:38I think people are really pumped to go see the local boys play hard to see the local black and
34:43gold. Why not? Nice revenue game against Utah. Yeah. I see a lot of stuff happening in the
34:50comments, which is fun. A lot of fighting going on. I feel like everyone's pissed. Yeah, calm down,
34:54everybody. Calm down. It's one day, all right? It's one bad start to a season. This isn't permanent.
35:01To quote Ilya Brizgalov, it's just a game. Why you have to be mad? Yeah, there's worse things,
35:07but you know what? Sometimes you got to get your anger out. What to do from here? We mentioned
35:14trades. I have friends texting me being like, the Bruins are the Blues, the 2019 Blues.
35:21The worst thing that ever could have happened is that Blues team going on that run. Beyond the
35:25fact that they crushed the Bruins' best chance of winning another cup, them coming back and
35:31making that run has now, I think, dispelled the illusion that, yeah, you can just suck ass for
35:36the first three months and be good to go. It doesn't matter. No, it's not great. If you're
35:41the Bruins and you somehow get your act in gear here and start piling on points, you're still
35:47going to be in match if all these other teams are playing well, looking at games in hand,
35:52all this stuff, because you've been playing like shit for over a month now. It's not great.
35:59NHL stuff is throwing around a lot of comments, yeah. I did not get him fired. That is not true.
36:05That is untrue. It's funny because there is that part of you, I think everybody has this,
36:13where it's like, oh, they could turn it around. And Joe Sacco could. He was a Jack Adams finalist
36:20in 2010. Again, I see a lot of Joe Sacco hate out there, so just giving you the other side.
36:26But we talked about this the other day. You only have a certain window to do a retool
36:33before you go over the cliff and you have to do a full rebuild. The Penguins right now,
36:37by the way, are that team. Penguins are fucked. That team is really rude. That team is in a
36:44horrible position. You are not them. You are not them. And I don't think you're really even close
36:50because their core is like 39 years old. Your core is not. So like you're in a better spot there.
36:58But in terms of a retool, you look at like trade candidates, and I think it was Elliott
37:01Friedman who mentioned, you know, Sweeney's trying to work the market, trying to bring in
37:05guys, please do not trade your first round pick. Don't be trading your prospects. Don't trade your
37:12high picks. But you look at the roster, right? Frederick's the easy one. Last year of his deal
37:18has value. That to me is an obvious... We've mentioned the Tanner Jeneau package.
37:26Well, here's a question for you. Still an insane return.
37:30Insane.
37:30Now that like the rumors have sprouted up, I think over Frederick,
37:34I keep on looking at that Jeneau trading. Like how the shit did that happen?
37:38I don't know how...
37:39It's big and tough.
37:41Yeah. People get so horny over big and tough guys.
37:45They watch the clips of the hits. They don't watch the five seconds of them skating before said hit.
37:51Exactly. Exactly. So I look at like, you know, Frederick and potentially dealing that.
37:59Here's the question though. So we mentioned giving up guys for picks to try and retool or prospects
38:06to try and bolster the farm system to also retool. Would you do a player for player swap?
38:12Like if there was... When Jake DuBras was on the block years ago, it was like, oh,
38:16Jake DuBras for Mason Appleton, which I never am a fan of, but like it worked in your favor
38:21to an extent. It doesn't look great now, but like Eric Hollow with Pavel Zaka,
38:25that made sense. Would you look for roster players in return or would you go for picks?
38:32I would go for... I think I would go for picks.
38:34I would look for... I mean, right now, what do I think the Bruins are going to do?
38:37Because I think what the Bruins are going to do...
38:38They're not going to go for picks. They're going to play.
38:39They will not. I think they've invested too much money in this team and that's going to
38:43lead to a lot of people being really pissed off, but the Bruins and ownership committed a lot of
38:46money. They're going to do what they can at least this year. And again, they don't make the playoffs.
38:51All bets are off in terms of this offseason, in terms of, I think, guys like Sweeney and Neely
38:55being taken to task in terms of the direction of this team and where they kind of charted things.
39:00But from what the Bruins are probably looking at, yeah, I think you look at what the issue
39:06with this team is and shit, there's a lot. But if you're Sweeney and Neely and you're trying to
39:13get things started here, yeah, I think the most obvious thing is you look at player for player
39:16swaps and see if you can just shake things up. Does that mean you're trading? I think Ty Anderson
39:22mentioned this yesterday, a geeky for an Anthony Beauvillier, who's also a guy that's underperformed,
39:27just putting a new body in or something like that. Doesn't steal the headline, doesn't do anything
39:32like that, but is that someone who just putting a new body in there, shipping a guy out,
39:39sends kind of a shot across the bow, like, hey, we got to get our shit in order. It's like,
39:42we know the coach is going to get canceled. Happens to every team. Oh, shit. The trading
39:45geeky or they're moving Frederick or someone like that. Maybe that's when it raises the stakes and
39:50the consequences of what playing like shit hockey can do to this team. So, yeah, I don't think the
39:57Bruins are going to unless things completely bottom out and keep on getting worse. And we're
40:02in January and they're 10 games under 500. Maybe then they adjust this strategy and try to make
40:07the most of a lost year and try to do maybe like what the caps have done this year, where it's like
40:13two or three years of regression, selling off guys when needed. And what do you know,
40:17they're kind of back. I don't know. I don't know how they're back the caps this year. I don't know
40:21what's going on there, but that's a sign of a team that identified when things were going south
40:26or opportunistic in terms of selling off pieces. And they're kind of back in the mix. Now they got
40:30Ryan Leonard and a few other guys in the mix coming up like there. You like where they are,
40:35even if maybe they're not going to be a powerhouse, they're going to be in the mix again,
40:38which is what you want. If they continue to tread water or downright struggle like they have the
40:44Bruins, that is maybe then they adjust their strategy. But for now, I still think it's
40:48something where they're going to look more for player for player moves if they have to continue
40:53to shake things up, which, again, maybe Sacco gives them a little bit of a jolt. But you look
40:59at this team, look at how they've underperformed the players themselves that aren't pulling their
41:03weight. Feels like another shoe has to drop in terms of sending the message that what's gone on
41:07these last six plus weeks, completely unacceptable. Yeah, you can't just do the coach. You can't.
41:16And so we've talked a lot about Frederick, but like two others I think are interesting,
41:20like Charlie Coyle's name has been kind of tossed around, Pavel Zaka. Zaka, I can't see them
41:26dealing because that is Pasternak's guy and Pasternak's here a lot, but he's playing like
41:31shit. So he is, he is playing like shit. I agree. But I also think like Pasternak does have some
41:37leverage in terms of his contract and all that stuff. I just wonder if, you know, like, again,
41:43like I would, I would, I'd be open to trading anybody on this roster right now, other than
41:50your three pillar guys. I know a lot of people aren't going to like to hear this, but McAvoy,
41:54Pasternak and Swayman, I know a lot of people want to trade Swayman now because they're blaming
41:58him for this whole season. And yeah, that, that stuff was completely bungled, but like,
42:03I still think like Swayman will even out it, you know, he's gonna, he's gonna go back to the
42:10middle or better. I mean, he's playing like crap right now. There's no denying that.
42:15But anybody else, like I would listen on anybody else. I just, I would. And I, you know, I don't
42:22know what they're getting you. I think Zaka and Coyle, you could get, you know, players like
42:28definitely solid players in return, a player or players in return. And I also just wonder, you
42:34know, in terms of like in my ideal world, if you're retooling things, you could get like around the
42:41deadline, like you get a first for Zaka. You kidding me? That's a top six center or left wing.
42:46Like I know he's playing like garbage right now, but he, what he can be. I mean, people forget how
42:53big, how much teams pay for mediocre talent around trade deadlines. Like if you really
43:00wanted to retool and you wanted to deal Zaka and Frederick and, and, you know, even geeky,
43:06like around the deadline or even a coil, like you would get legitimate things back in return for
43:11those guys. I think. Yeah, no, no, exactly. So I think it just falls on again. I think
43:18the roster has to be the next thing that people have to hone in on. And again, like people that
43:22are looking for Sweeney and Neely's next guys up. Well, the shield is gone now in terms of Montgomery
43:28that the criticism is going to fall on them if they continues to scuttle going on this year.
43:33But for right now, in terms of what needs to happen to, to pull this you know, to write the ship and
43:38get this team rolling, it falls on the players. Like, you know, you can look at this roster and
43:44how it was flawed and, you know, not accounting for the regression. I think even accounting for
43:49like regression or guys, you know, shooting percentages, dropping stuff like that, that
43:54means they drop into like a third place in the Atlantic one wildcard. And like, I get, oh,
43:59they're still in the playoffs as of last night, but like that regression shouldn't equate to what
44:05we've seen. Like this is top five pick like rudderless shit hockey third and goal differential
44:13in the league. Yeah. Behind what the penguins and the shocks like in San Jose, not, yeah, not two
44:19teams you want to be in. So like right now, at least, at least right now we can talk about Sweeney
44:24and Neely and all that stuff. And I think that will get pushed until April and may it might just
44:29be April. This team's not in the playoffs, uh, in terms of where the accountability goes. But
44:34I think for right now, in terms of the next step falls on the players, like Sacco, I think can get,
44:40provide a new voice, can do those things to try to get this team rolling. But Sacco is not going
44:45to be the guy that is holding onto the puck, fumbling the pocket, the blue line on a power
44:50play. Sacco's not the guy taking a shitty high stick in the offensive zone. Sacco is not the
44:55guy that's doing a D to D passes in front of the net that hit off Swayman and lead to a grade A
45:00chance for a noted powerhouse team, the Columbus blue jackets, uh, like Sacco and the coaching
45:06staff can only do so much. Yes. You can, you can put the blame on Sweeney and Neely. And that,
45:12you know, will be addressed. I think if this team continues to bottom out, but for right now,
45:16this team has any hope of clawing back, that's going to be the players themselves. Got to look
45:20themselves in the mirror being like, well, we just fired Jim Montgomery with our play. Like
45:25what's next. Cause if they continue to play like this, it's gonna be a lot of other guys
45:29in that room. They're not going to be here in a couple of months. No, they won't. And,
45:33and again, like, you know, I get their desire to want to keep continue, continue to compete
45:38because obviously they've put a ton of money into this team. They're spending near the cap.
45:42They just signed a bunch of guys in the off season, uh, for big money, but like you've said
45:48it before you want to be like Detroit and just keep extending the, Oh, we're getting in the first
45:52round. Oh, we're getting those playoff tickets. Like it, it, it always crashes. It always,
45:58always crashes. And if you have to take this year and next, um, where you're, you know,
46:04middle of the pack, just outside the playoffs, but your mate, your, you know, you're drafting
46:09a good amount of guys. People are getting on me about saying that like Zaka could get you a first
46:14round pick. I think people forget how desperate teams are around the deadline. You know, trade
46:20you like go look at the freaking past bunch of trade deadlines. Like Pavel Zaka. I know he is
46:27not doing well right now, but there are teams who would give a lot for that around the deadline who
46:33just want a shot at the cup. Okay. So like, is Zaka a first rounder in the middle of the summer?
46:39No, probably not. But the market dictates it and around the deadline, it gets crazy.
46:45So that's my response on that. Um, Brad Marshan,
46:49Martians in the final year of his deal, obviously he's not signed a new one yet.
46:53Um, the captain, all that stuff. Um, again, I, yeah, exactly. But who's got a first round pick
47:00Evans, right? Thank you. G Walker. I appreciate you. I appreciate you. Um, but I, you know,
47:06Marshand to me obviously would get you a lot around the deadline, but I also look at like
47:11the leadership vacuum that would create if he, if he left, right? Like if, if they traded Marshand,
47:18just the amount of, uh, like our, our McEvoy imposter knock ready to be potentially be
47:25captains. I don't think so. I don't think so. They're not there yet. Clearly they are not there
47:29yet. I mean, this is their second head coach that I'm not saying they themselves have gotten fired,
47:34but they have been main guys on the team of coaches that have gotten fired to really good
47:39coaches, by the way, you can say what you want about your Montgomery, really good head coach.
47:43Who's going to land on his feet somewhere, get a really good job either this year or in the
47:47off season and probably going to win a cup, uh, given how things went with, with Cassidy. Um,
47:54but I, you know, again, like, do you want a chance poisoning the culture even more
48:00by dealing a guy like Marshand? Yeah. I mean, it probably depends on just
48:05if things really bottomed out and you're looking at really blowing things up,
48:08which I, again, I don't think they're going to do, but if it really does hit that point,
48:12yeah. Like if Marshands gone, like your next captain, I don't know that they would give it
48:21to McEvoy, but like, I don't think, I don't know. I don't know about that. So like, I think,
48:29I think that is a legitimate question as to what exactly this next leadership void is.
48:34Um, if you do move on from our Shane, again, maybe if you're accepting your,
48:39your rebuilding five years down the road, maybe that's something that you are addressing, but.
48:44Um, yeah, I do think that's a legitimate question. If you're looking for a retool and you know,
48:48you're going through a few lean years, um, maybe you keep a Martian around for that transition
48:54period. But, uh, yeah, I think the bigger question isn't like, Oh, like just hold on
48:59to Martian the whole rest of the way. Like who cares if you get a draft pick or anything like
49:02that? No, but I do think if you're trying to foster that next, you know, wave of young talent,
49:08when you've got guys like, you know, Patra coming up or what have you, um, I think having a guy
49:13that will get on players like Martian, I'd rather have him here. Then what is the second wave of
49:20that leadership group? Cause right now, not really that impressed. No, I agree with you. Um,
49:27and then I think my, the final thing I want to kind of discuss is just sort of Joe Sacco.
49:31Um, and yeah, uh, getting into Joe Sacco here, uh, the next head coach, um, uh, pure LeBron came
49:40out with a tweet right before we came on, uh, saying that, you know, they're, they're prepared
49:46to give Sacco the full season. This is not just going to be, you know, a month or two, and then
49:50they'll bring someone else. And it looks like this is going to be his shot. He's going to have, you
49:54know, a chance to be the full-time head coach past this season. Um, do you think that's the right
50:00move or does this team need a kick in the ass from the outside? I mean, again, I think it probably
50:06goes and depends on where this team is at, like by end of December, past the new year, uh, in terms
50:13of if they respond to, uh, Sacco. And again, like you can look at the roster and how underwhelming
50:18they've been, how poorly constructed the roster has been in terms of just the outright production,
50:23but like, they still should be better. Like, even if you think like this team is, is not that great
50:28or they're far from what shit we predicted, I had, I'm not going to like just completely burn my,
50:34my boat predictions from where they were. I had them in the conference finals, which is not that
50:39great looking at it now, but, um, it's going to fall on the players. As I said earlier, like,
50:45who's going to be, who's going to be writing the ship. It's the players executing on the ice,
50:48or maybe they aren't. And that's where I think if the scene continues to, uh, take a step back
50:54or stay where they are of winning a game, dropping another one, like if they go and beat Utah on
51:01Thursday, nice, like four, one, when we're like, we're back, baby. And then lose on Saturday in
51:06Detroit, like three, nothing like, Oh, you right back where you were Detroit, who just got smoked
51:11on the California trip, which there's ever a, an easy stretch. It's that California trip.
51:16Um, so I, I think you look at, um, just where this team is at. I could see them sticking with
51:24sack or giving him some rope, but if, if the players aren't responding again, one, I think
51:29it's going to lead to a lot of trades on the roster. And then it's going to see where exactly
51:33they are. Who's finding an outside voice also depends on maybe who's out there. Like, you know,
51:38if, if the penguins fire, Mike Sullivan, does that change where they are in terms of a guy that's out
51:42there? Uh, so we'll see how it all kind of plays out. Yeah. I, uh, someone just asked if we read
51:48the comments and my answer is yes. And I sure do it right in my face. They're right in my face.
51:52I read them as I'm saying what I'm saying. So then I get sidetracked and forget what I'm saying.
51:58And I just start getting distracted by the comments. Someone did say, Pierre Leclerc says
52:02the Bruins, their reign is over. It wasn't the coach, the problem, but the lack of pure talent
52:07right before we came on. Domeless isn't at the athletic published this really long story. Um,
52:13questioning are the Bruins done? Like, are the Bruins fine? Is this every year people predict
52:17that the Bruins are not going to be in it. They end up being in it being really good. Um, and I,
52:23I do think it is a legitimate question. Like, is this the year that things really did catch up to
52:26them? The roster catches up to them. I mean, again, you know, we are just over a month into
52:31the season. So like, there is a world in which Joe Sacco comes in and they are a different team
52:38and they are great from here on out. And they're in the playoffs and we like, great, there is that
52:45world. Um, but I think from you, for you and I sitting here on November 19th, how do you believe
52:53that that's in this team after watching them for the past month? So like the reason we talk about
52:58retooling and outside coaches needing to come in and, and Sweeney and Neely and all this stuff
53:04is because we're going off what has happened. We're going off what they've shown us and what
53:09they've shown us sucks. And I just, I can't get over that. So again, if the Bruins going to win
53:16the cup this year, you know, yeah, you can use this as motivation. Oh, they, they were so against
53:20the Bruins, but the Bruins post some hype video in frigging June in my like articles saying like,
53:27oh, the Bruins bad. If that's on the front, that's totally fine. Cause you know,
53:30more power to you right to ship, but right now it's not looking great.
53:37No, it's not. You know, who's still out there. Kevin Shattenkirk is still out there. I wonder
53:42if they, I mean that people would be pissed by the way, if that was like the big roster move,
53:47but like good dude, good locker room guy. I don't know. Another vet like
53:52BU terrier as well. A BU terrier. Everybody's in the comments saying they should bring back the,
53:57the Bruins that are on the Blackhawks Corrali. It's like the portal scene from, uh, from, uh,
54:04Avengers end game and just all of them joining the team back. They all come back. They all come back.
54:10Um, quite the episode. I think we hit on everything. We knew Joe Kim Nordstrom going
54:16through the portal. Yes. Yes. Yes. Joe Kim Nordstrom is going to be what, uh, what saves
54:22this team. Yeah. Bergeron and Chara coming off unobstructed views. Uh, just suiting up again.
54:27I do. I did love their reactions to all the bad stuff that was happening Monday night.
54:32Um, I got to kick out of that. That was, uh, that was great. Um, I, again, I'm looking like,
54:37I, I, I think we hit on everything Montgomery. I mean, again, like Montgomery is going to land
54:41somewhere. There's going to be a team that, uh, that goes and hires them.
54:44The comment section is now becoming like when you're with your buddies after a few beers at
54:49the bar and you're just naming random players. Yes. Just doing that. So I'm just like Chuck
54:53Koba. Sue. Did someone say Koba? Sue? Oh, that's my girl. And so I like that. I like that. I'll
54:59say, uh, bring back Manny Fernandez in that replaced your trade. Jeremy Swayman, Manny
55:05Fernandez, Jonas Corp, a solid tandem. I think they, uh, they are set. They'll be cooking.
55:10Uh, as the kids say. Um, but I, I do think, yeah, McQuaid, Ference, uh,
55:18you know, James asked an interesting question. Would Gerard Galant be a good choice? You like
55:22Gerard Galant, um, in terms of a guy to come in. Uh, I do think that an outside guy, if,
55:28if Sacco does not work, I think an outside kind of tough guy like that is going to come in and
55:32rattle some cages. Probably isn't the worst thing that happened to this team.
55:36He's like the prime drink equivalent of like Bruce Cassidy. It's like just a shorter fuse,
55:41but it kind of does the same results in terms of prime, like the Jake Paul drink.
55:47It's a little burst of energy in terms of he's kind of just jumps in somewhere and like he gets
55:52actually gets results, but he has a very short shelf life, which if you're the Bruins and you're
55:57like looking at more of a retool and you're trying just to write the ship right now, as you're trying
56:02to bridge through a couple of years and you want to remain in the mix of being competitive,
56:07maybe that's a guy you look to. So I wouldn't be surprised if that's a guy they do assess
56:11moving forward. Yeah. There's this new thing going around Tik TOK. It's like a smelling salt
56:16in a thing and you put it up your nose and you're like, it's an energy boost. Um, and, uh, I, I,
56:22that's like Gerard Galant that could be an equivalent to Gerard Galant, just a little
56:26energy boost, um, on that. Uh, so yeah, I, I think that, you know, they're not in a good spot.
56:33They clearly are not in a good spot. I wouldn't say so just the imagination. Um, but, uh, I,
56:39it's, it's a tough time. It's a weird time. Uh, it'll be interesting to see sort of what they do.
56:44Uh, again, Jim Montgomery, hell of a, you know, run. I, he had Jim Montgomery's
56:48tenure is going to be weird. I think when you look back on it, because there were such big
56:52highs and there were such low lows. I mean, obviously the end of his time here was a big low.
56:58The 2023 playoffs was a low, but like the 23 regular season was a high last year's, uh,
57:05regular season I thought was his best coaching job overall. Um, so yeah, I mean, he'll,
57:12he'll be with another team. Another team will pick them up. Um, his son plays prep school hockey in
57:18new England. Maybe he'll be a prep school coach for a little bit. Probably not, but, um, it'll be,
57:23uh, interesting to see, uh, Connor, thank you for doing yeah. Claude. Yes. Bring back Chloe.
57:28That would be great. Or, or, uh, that would be, uh, bring back Claude Claude,
57:34Bruce, just put everybody that was there. Uh, Rick bonus, put him behind the bench.
57:39So just the whole, bring them all back. Um, Connor, what can the people look forward to
57:43from you at the globe and boston.com. Yeah. We're going to have you covered every step
57:47of the way this brewing season, uh, be it a coaching change, maybe trades down the line,
57:53uh, features, recaps, columns, all that good stuff. You can read over at boston.com
57:59Boston. Yes. Dave Lewis to get David Lewis on the bench. I think our son's already like
58:03bring back Jim Montgomery. So we're doing well, but yeah, so you can read my stuff,
58:08Evan over at boston.com and the Boston globe. And if you want to follow me
58:12on Twitter, you can at Connor Ryan underscore 93.
58:15Go do all that. We thank you for those who tuned in live for those who watch it later.
58:20Thank you as well. Uh, and that's been Bruins beat. That's Connor Ryan. I'm Evan Marinovsky
58:24Bruins beat listeners. Have a great rest of your week.