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00:00Just to, you know, stoke the fire, if you will, on a day where Kyle Shanahan is the
00:08center of many fans' frustration, let's hear what he had to say about all of it.
00:13So here is Kyle Shanahan's media availability day after game.
00:16All right, guys.
00:17Injuries from the game, Jacob Cowling will be in the protocol, Tatum Bethune has MCL
00:24sprained, he'll be out a while, Nick Bosa, hip, oblique.
00:28We'll evaluate him throughout the week.
00:32Brock Purdy has some right shoulder soreness, he's day to day.
00:37That's it from the game.
00:38Go ahead.
00:39Kyle, is there any update on Dre Greenlaw?
00:42No, no update.
00:46Meaning he'll stay on the PUP this week?
00:49Yeah, I think the same thing I said last week, he's doing his mock practices on his own without
00:56players and hope we'll get him back in practice next week.
01:00How about Traverius Ward, Kyle, did he rejoin the team yet?
01:05Yes, he did.
01:06He was at a team meeting today.
01:08Are you expecting him to be able to play this week then and did he just come today or was
01:13he at the game yesterday?
01:14He was at the game yesterday.
01:15He did some workouts here over the weekend with Dustin Perry, our strength and conditioning
01:20coach, and we'll see how this week goes with him.
01:23Kyle, is there a possibility that Nick Bosa actually plays on Sunday?
01:28Yes.
01:29And Ronaldo's finger, he's fine or does he have to play with any type of wrap or anything
01:35like that?
01:36No, I believe he's fine because they didn't even mention him to me, it's not on this list.
01:41Kyle, you and John have made a point of bringing in guys that help starters, guys who love
01:48football, you don't have to really monitor that much.
01:52I'm just curious, it's been 10 games into a season where it hasn't gone the way that
01:58anybody expected.
01:59Do you still see the same resolve and the confidence and the enthusiasm that you need
02:04to see?
02:05Yeah, what are you asking exactly?
02:08I'm saying, you have a team pretty much of self-starters that's used to a lot of success.
02:15They haven't had as much this year, and I'm wondering, do you still see that same resolve
02:19and the same confidence and the same enthusiasm at 5-5?
02:23I'm still confused by your question, but yeah, we have guys who love football, I mean, enthusiasm
02:30at 5-5, it's not the same as when a record was last year, but in terms of, I think you're
02:36asking do guys still work hard and play hard and try to get after it, and yeah.
02:40Okay, thank you.
02:42Kyle, do we know when Brock injured his shoulder?
02:45No, I don't know when he did it.
02:47Not during the game.
02:49Right.
02:50Kyle, is Kittle going to be a day-to-day situation again this week, or where does he kind of
02:55stand?
02:56He should practice on Wednesday.
02:58I know it was closed yesterday, so I think he should be good for practice on Wednesday.
03:03And Kyle, how did Trent Williams come out of the game?
03:05It looked like he was kind of hobbling around, and it was really a game-time decision yesterday.
03:08Yeah, I mean, I know he's sore today and stuff, just talking to him, you know, the
03:12Toradol's wearing off and things like that, which, you know, is pretty painful, but we'll
03:16see how he comes in Wednesday.
03:18But I know he battled to play in that game, and I really appreciate him getting through
03:23it and out there, and we'll see how he recovers here going into Wednesday.
03:28Kyle, what was the general mood around the building today?
03:32I think we're, I mean, we were just, we were pissed off from yesterday.
03:35That was a tough loss.
03:37We had every chance to win it, and we didn't get it done.
03:41So I think guys were disappointed and upset, but I mean, we all know each other pretty
03:45well in here.
03:46We understand our expectations, and we just had, we had a good team meeting, addressed
03:50a bunch of the fourth quarter, kind of watched it all together.
03:53And then we broke up into our position meetings, but I think guys are pissed and ready to put
03:58that game behind us.
03:59Today's always a hard day to deal with it, because of some of the frustration of what
04:02happened.
04:04Now I think our guys can't wait to get to Green Bay as fast as we can.
04:08I know you always say that each play is different, but were there any kind of common thread that
04:13went through the issues in the fourth quarter, and how many plays did you address with the
04:18team in that meeting?
04:22I mean, when they took the lead 13 to 10 with three minutes to go in the third, the offense
04:27got the ball two more times, and our defense got the ball two more times.
04:30So we just addressed both of those drives.
04:34The offense had two chances to take it into our own hands, and we did that on one drive,
04:38and we did it on the other.
04:40And the defense had two chances to take it in their own hands, and they did it on one
04:43drive, having a huge four-down stop, getting us the ball back.
04:47And then the offense did it in the four-minute, and then Seattle answered on that last drive.
04:54So we had two opportunities to do it, and we were 50-50 on them, just like they were.
04:58And when you do that, it's usually who comes, who has the ball last, and they did.
05:02And there was different plays in all of them, but those were the two issues.
05:06You were asked about that play late in the game, right before you punted, where it looked
05:13on the TV copy like maybe it was a special teams coach went up to the line judge.
05:18If that had been a fourth and one instead of a fourth and six, what were you prepared
05:25to do at that point?
05:26I haven't thought about that since it didn't happen, but I'm sure if it was fourth and
05:30one, we would have gone for it.
05:31It also would have been a much easier field goal range, too, so I know it wouldn't have
05:36been a punt.
05:37Did you follow up with the league on that, Kyle, on whether there was any recourse, whether
05:41they did call a second straight timeout?
05:43No, I mean, I don't follow up with them.
05:45We'll send something in, but I mean, I talked to the refs on the field.
05:48I said, how'd they just get two timeouts in a row, and they said that they didn't.
05:53They alerted them to something that was wrong with something the refs were doing, and then
05:57they fixed it, but I thought they had timeouts because I thought I saw a guy run up there
06:01and call one, but I haven't seen a TV copy.
06:04What did you think you got out of Gross Mattows for his first timeout, and did he play more
06:10than you expected because Bosa was out?
06:12Yeah, there at the end, he did.
06:15I thought he did some good things.
06:17Definitely caused some havoc on the quarterback, did some solid stuff in the run game.
06:20I had a couple ones at the end where just his rush integrity's got to be a little bit
06:24better from our four, but it was good to get him back and get him started with us.
06:29Kyle, with nine penalties in the game, seven on offense, was that something that you addressed
06:33with the team?
06:34I mean, it seems uncharacteristic of what you've been doing this season.
06:38Yeah, yeah, that was a huge thing.
06:40I thought it was one of the biggest problems for the offense on the day, and I actually
06:44thought we played a better game offensively than we did on that Thursday night game.
06:48We didn't get...
06:49On that Thursday night game, we got the busted coverage on Devo's 70-yarder, and we got those
06:53two explosive runs, which really helped, but we played better football this game.
06:59We just didn't hit it all with the penalties, and we had one 14-play drive where I don't
07:05know how many 14-play drives there have been a part of that don't end with points or a
07:12missed field goal or a turnover to go 14 plays and then punt it.
07:17We had eight plays inside the 50 after that turnover for the field goal, having to overcome
07:23it a couple of times and then get them again.
07:25So that was our biggest problem on the day, I thought, offensively.
07:28Kyle, Nick Bosa sounded pessimistic when he talked to us after the game about his ability
07:34to play in the next game.
07:35He also didn't look like a guy who's ready to play in the next game.
07:38Is he feeling a bit better today?
07:40I wouldn't say that, but you should really never ask a guy right after a game or the
07:45next morning.
07:46I think he was feeling like that a couple of weeks ago, too, so we'll see how it goes
07:50this week.
07:51Just a bit of a chance for him not to play as play, but unless it's an injury that you
07:58know has him knocked out, you always can rule that out early.
08:01But when it's not that case, you don't decide those things on Mondays.
08:05As far as Purdy, that is from a hit he took, it's not like throwing shoulder-to-shoulder,
08:10is that right?
08:12Yes.
08:13Okay.
08:14Did it affect him?
08:15Did it affect him during the game?
08:17No, I don't think so.
08:20How would you evaluate how Christian has come back?
08:24How are his eyes, and is he hitting the right hole, and is he just, in general, as sharp
08:29as he normally would be this time of year?
08:32Yeah, I think Christian's doing a good job.
08:34I didn't think he had any opportunity for some big ones.
08:37They kept him contained pretty good, especially in their two-shell defenses, so there might
08:42have been one run he left a little bit out there.
08:46I don't think I've ever said that there isn't a run that you left a little bit out there
08:49in a game.
08:50But I think Christian's doing a good job.
08:53Kyle Brock didn't attempt any passes over 19 yards.
08:57I know that's, was it more opportunities, or, I mean, he's done it in the past, was
09:02it just what he was faced with on the field?
09:05Was that the plan?
09:06Yeah, no, I mean, it would have surprised me just the way they play their coverages
09:10if we would have attempted more.
09:11I mean, they're pretty bent, but don't break defense.
09:15You know, that's usually how it goes versus that, and it's tough to get the big plays
09:20on.
09:21You don't want to force them.
09:22You hope to get them into some situations where you can get them.
09:24But most of the stuff that they were giving us was underneath, and they're going to make
09:28you go on those longer drives, which we were new going into the game.
09:32That was going to be the challenge and what we were ready for, and I think we were up
09:35for the challenge, but we couldn't overcome all those penalties and setbacks that we got.
09:40I think you've talked in the past, like, there's generally every point in every season
09:45where it's like the sky is falling, and sometimes the sky is falling, and sometimes it's just
09:50adversity that you end up pulling out of.
09:52What did you learn from those kind of, these kind of moments in your past, if anything,
09:58that you kind of learned to apply?
10:01Just that the only thing that matters is what happens in those three and a half hours in
10:05a football game, and the only thing that you can do about those three and a half hours
10:09is focus on football and how to get better at that stuff and practice in meetings.
10:14And anything outside of that, any talking about it, any pointing to other people, trying
10:19to make up any type of narrative of it that doesn't have to do with exactly what's happening
10:24on the football field, will only make that stuff harder.
10:28And those are the challenges, because, you know, guys, you know, guys know their job
10:32and it's just supposed to do their job, and guys don't always know what other people are
10:35responsible for and doing, and that's why you've got to make sure you've got tough-minded
10:39people who can focus on really what their job is, and nothing more than that.
10:44And it gets harder when you have adversity and stuff like that, when you aren't getting
10:48as many Ws as you want, but no matter how much harder it gets, you've got to always
10:52understand, it's about the ball, and you've got to keep it about the ball and nothing
10:56else.
10:57Kyle, in three games where you've lost the lead in the fourth quarter, do you feel like
11:03your team still has that killer instinct at the end of the game, or is there some sort
11:08of, I mean, I don't know if it's Super Bowl hangover, but emotional hangover from the
11:13journey that you guys have been on so far?
11:15No, I hear that and I understand all the questions, but it's back to my last answer.
11:19I don't think there is an answer about a journey or Super Bowl hangover.
11:23I think it's about what's happening in that exact game, and then, you know, the week before
11:29was almost the same game.
11:30I think we went down 13 to 10 or something in the third.
11:32I think they came back and tied it up, and we went down and won it on the last play,
11:38so I don't think that means we had a killer instinct in that game and not in this game.
11:42They took a lead 13 to 10, and in the fourth quarter, we went on a 14-play drive and scored
11:49a touchdown and overcame a bunch of negative stuff on that drive and still took a 17 to
11:5513 lead.
11:56Our defense held them on a fourth and one, I think with three and a half minutes to go,
12:00so I saw a killer instinct on both of those drives.
12:03And then we got to run out the clock on offense, and we were on three plays, get it down there
12:07in second 11, and we missed a throw and catch, which I think would have got us in the red
12:11zone and allowed us to run out more clock, possibly the clock, but we didn't make it.
12:18And then they got us on the last drive, so we got to play better on those two last drives,
12:21and it usually comes down to that in football.
12:25If you don't want it to come down to that before that, you got to play pretty flawlessly
12:28to get up a couple scores before the end, but that's why most games in this league do
12:33come down to the end, and we got that done versus Tampa, but we didn't get it done this
12:37week.
12:38All right, guys.
12:39We'll see you Wednesday.
12:40All right, guys.
12:41Can't wait until we talk again.
12:44Well, and he was pretty, I think, reasonable in his explanations.
12:49Yeah, he was fine.
12:50He was fine.
12:51What's he going to say?
12:52Yeah, you know, we've lacked that killer instinct.
12:54We haven't been able to close because darn it, we just don't have that killer instinct.
12:59That's a fair question, but there's nothing that he can really say about it other than,
13:03you know, you got to get it done, and he's right.
13:05These games, a lot of the NFL games come down to those last four drives, and the offense
13:10had two chances, and the defense had two chances, and the offense went 550 percent, and so did
13:15the defense, and usually the team that has the ball last and stuff is the team that wins
13:19the game, and that's the way that one went.
13:23It sort of feels like, I'll just be real here, when we listen to Kyle speak this year,
13:30you come away feeling unsatisfied, and that's not his fault or the media's fault.
13:37It is a very difficult situation, I think, right now to ask exactly the right question
13:43and to deliver exactly the right answer.
13:47When the penalties come up, what I'd love to know is, hey Kyle, when you have that seemingly
13:56happen somewhat regularly, where there are more penalties than you really feel, like
14:02obviously everyone's going to make some mistakes, and you're going to have some false starts,
14:06and that's going to happen in any football season, but when it starts to feel like you
14:11have an undisciplined team, what causes that?
14:17I would love to hear his answer on that, and it may be another very unsatisfying answer.
14:26The answer to that from Kyle Shanahan may well be, I mean, it's just people making mistakes.
14:36It just happens.
14:37We try our butts off to not have it happen, and we work on it every week, and it's just
14:41one of those things.
14:43That might be the answer, but I do think, for me, when I see a team continually have
14:50the same things happen week in and week out, I don't know where to look except for up at
14:56the top.
14:59It makes you want, like Guru always talks about, right?
15:02Go flip the spread.
15:03It makes you want to have one of those movie moments where you just hold everyone accountable
15:09and get them to really focus on this.
15:11I don't know if that works either, though.
15:14I don't think that works in professional sports.
15:16No, this is not Harry High School or, you know, give them hell.
15:19Go out there and fight, fight, fight.
15:21And I don't think Kyle is just not mentioning it.
15:27I think he's mentioning it, but where do you go?
15:30What do you do with that energy?
15:32Well, you're on to Green Bay, and you get on the plane, and you hope that it works out.
15:37He is right, though.
15:38All of the hyperbole and the conjecture and what we do and the talking, it comes down
15:42to three hours on Sunday.
15:44If you're not buttoned up for those three hours on Sunday, then you might lose a football
15:49game.
15:50It was interesting, his description of that drive in the first half.
15:54He said he'd never seen a drive that is 14 plays that results in a punt because they
16:01went from their own 27.
16:03At one point, they got down to the 34, and then it was the McKivitt show with the false
16:07start and then the sack, and then two passes knocked down, and you did have to punt.
16:12And he said we had eight plays on their side of the 50 on that drive, 14 plays in all,
16:18and it didn't end with a touchdown, a field goal, or a missed field goal.
16:21And that just tells you where they are, and your question about the penalties and where
16:26do they come from, a lot of them are just boneheaded plays.
16:29Trent Williams lines up too far off the line of scrimmage, illegal formation, Banks with
16:34a false start, McKivitt's with a false start, those are parking tickets.
16:38If you get moving violations, I'm okay with it, pass interference, holding, those things
16:43are going to happen.
16:44When you've got full speed football players and the one was on the jet sweep, same drive,
16:50where Jawan Jennings, he holds, and Debo was going to get six or seven yards, and so that
16:54one goes from third and one to third and 11, you convert it anyway.
16:58I can forgive the moving violations, it's those damn parking tickets where you forget
17:03to feed the meter, that's 85 bucks, and false start, illegal formation, delay a game, those
17:09are the ones you can't have.
17:10888-957-9570, thanks for your patience, a lot of people want to get in.
17:14Omari in the city, hi Omari, thanks for jumping on.
17:19Good afternoon gentlemen, thank you for answering the call here.
17:22First of all, I hope that you guys let me say this, what I want to say here.
17:27First of all, I remember calling you guys the week after the Super Bowl, and I said
17:32that this window is closing, and you guys made my team sound like donkey doo-doo.
17:39So my thing is this, I do want to say that we got lucky last year in the playoffs, right,
17:46with Detroit and Green Bay, and then what I want to just kind of add on to that is to
17:50talk about NFL stats for a moment, and kind of like how fantasy football has killed the
17:55concept of stats.
17:57Let's go back to 2009 when the Niners played against the Colts under Singletary.
18:04The Colts had kicked like six field goals.
18:08They had threw for over 300 and some yards.
18:10Their only touchdown pass was a halfback, like an option to Reggie Wayne, a touchdown
18:18pass.
18:19And even Reggie Wayne said after the game, we hadn't practiced that play in like nine
18:22years or something like that.
18:23So I'm saying that to say, stats are not the just of everything.
18:27So when we talk about Purdy, for example, about him having great stats, sometimes it's
18:32not really so much the numbers itself, it's really about, well, the two things that actually
18:37should stand out is third down conversions and red zone efficiency.
18:41But just to talk about Purdy, and I'm not a hater, it's hard to assess a player, and
18:51I'm a realist Niner fan, I'm not a Homer Niner fan, right?
18:54So when there's two things that stand out to Purdy, I wish that we can adjust.
18:59One is the ability to lead a receiver, and where a receiver doesn't have to wait for
19:04the ball, number one.
19:06And somehow we have to figure out a way to spread the offense a little bit better because
19:10defensive linemen are seeming to be able to tip passes too much, and it's also giving
19:16defenses a chance to disguise their abilities more as part of a Purdy to kind of assess.
19:21And last, real fast about Shanahan, which I call him Shanahan right now until he wins.
19:26It would be good if we stopped seeing such a bunch of formations, and I don't want to
19:33see Debo getting a handoff in the backfield anymore.
19:37Debo is not the only person that can take the jet sweep.
19:39And as a matter of fact, let's throw the ball to Debo like we would see Anquan Bowden.
19:44Anquan Bowden was not a receiver that can separate from receivers, but he was a guy,
19:49a person that can win the 50-50 ball, and I would say Debo is probably a junior version
19:55of that.
19:56And I would like to see some more of that, but that's pretty much what I wanted to say.
19:59OK, Omari.
20:00Thank you very much for all that.
20:01I actually see Juwan Jennings being more of the type of receiver you're trying to describe
20:05with Anquan Bowden, and I think you see that.
20:07He wins a lot of one-on-one battles, it's why Brock is starting to trust him a lot.
20:12All right, there's a lot there.
20:14I want to go back first to his very first point.
20:18Look, what is sports radio if one person can't share an opinion and then have someone else
20:23say that opinion is doggy-do?
20:25Like that's what we're doing here, and you are up one-nothing on me on that right now,
20:33but I ain't changing my opinion.
20:35I don't think the window is closed or closing.
20:40I don't think you, if the Niners believe that, then you're right, they shouldn't sign
20:44Brock at all.
20:45Exactly.
20:46Not to a dollar.
20:47That was your take, and I've been using it because it's genius.
20:49I do think, off-season topic, there are some hard choices that have to be made.
20:54No doubt.
20:55And we can look at some of the contracts that can be wriggled out of, and the Debo restructure
21:01is one that kind of makes it so he's going to be sticking around, and some of the deals
21:06that they've done maybe don't look so good right now, but I do like what he was saying
21:10about formations, because they run so much tight formations, and Greg Cosell later this
21:16week, he'll break it down for all of us, and I'd like to see him spread it out on occasion
21:21and have the wide receivers actually be toward the wide side of the field.
21:25Yeah, no, I'm in on all those ideas of some different things that people would like to
21:30see.
21:31I mean, yeah, obviously, what they're doing right now has become a little bit stale, but
21:37the larger point about roster, I hate to break it to everybody, but everybody's replaceable.
21:42You just got to do a good job of finding the replacement.
21:44But that's the NFL, so I don't think the window closes.
21:50I think the Niners have to do a good job at finding new, younger people every year.
21:56Every year.
21:57And they did a good job this year, by the way.