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00:00The 8 jam of the night is...
00:16The 30th anniversary of their debut. Great special!
00:2030th anniversary!
00:23And then...
00:25Here it comes!
00:27Wow!
00:29Welcome!
00:31Let's interview the four members!
00:36What are they going to talk about?
00:39Nice to meet you!
00:41They're all here!
00:44Speaking of Great...
00:47Takuro and Teru were formed in 1988 in Hakodate, Hokkaido.
00:54This is a precious photo!
00:59Their major debut in 1994...
01:05They became more and more popular with their wide range of musicality and sophisticated visuals.
01:10And then, in 1996...
01:16Their first single in the top 10 with Glorious...
01:21Their hit songs came one after another.
01:51Wow, so cool!
02:02They know all the songs!
02:12It's released at the same time, right?
02:14The brown one and the green one.
02:17It's amazing.
02:19It's really amazing.
02:22They remember all the songs.
02:36It's like winter.
02:46It's amazing.
03:04It's a legend.
03:09It's amazing.
03:16They continue to lead the Japanese music scene and have won many gold medals.
03:28In October of this year, they will release their new album, Back to the Pops, which is the first time in 3 years.
03:35Thank you for having us.
03:39Thank you for coming to our program, 8jam.
03:44Thank you for having us.
03:46Have you all seen the interview with Mr. Hisashi?
03:50I don't think I've ever seen four people doing an interview together like this.
03:58No, I don't think so.
04:00I don't think so.
04:02It's the first time.
04:04I'll be careful not to overlap.
04:06I'll be careful not to overlap.
04:10The song I listened to the most was Amuro's Can You Celebrate.
04:13I wrote the composition of Can You Celebrate and wanted to make a song that fits this.
04:19From the secret of the famous song.
04:21The four of us decided to break up on New Year's Eve in 1999.
04:25There are many precious testimonies to the crisis of disbandment.
04:34Tonight is the 30th anniversary of their debut.
04:37Great special.
04:40Professionals who respect them explain their greatness.
04:50First of all, we've introduced a lot of Gray's songs on the show so far.
04:54Golden Bomber Kiryuin Show with a lot of experience.
05:00My classmate's friend said,
05:02Gray's music is really good.
05:05I listened to it while looking at the lyrics.
05:08It's a lyric that's different from Rockstar's.
05:10That's where I fell in love with it.
05:12The main character of this rock star.
05:14I'm so worried about this.
05:16I felt very close to him.
05:18That's where I fell in love with it.
05:21And in high school, he started playing the guitar because of Gray.
05:25Kamemoto Hiroki of Green Spunky, a rock unit with two members.
05:31I've been listening to this music since I was in middle school.
05:37When I started playing the guitar in high school,
05:40Gray's guitar was really gorgeous.
05:44That's where I fell in love with rock music.
05:47That's when you were in middle school.
05:50Next, when he was in elementary school,
05:52The first CD he asked his parents for was Gray.
05:56Ryota Yanagisawa of Super Beaver.
06:01When I was in the 5th or 6th grade of elementary school,
06:03I formed a band for the first time.
06:06It was a copy band of Gray.
06:09They lent me a music room.
06:11Anyway, I practiced Gray.
06:13If you look closely, that's the Talbot of Tokai that Kisashi used.
06:20The drums at that time were Fujiwara of Super Beaver.
06:25We've been together since elementary school.
06:28I started playing Gray.
06:30If it wasn't for Gray, Super Beaver wouldn't have come.
06:36This time, we're going to introduce Gray's charms with these five points.
06:40First of all...
06:46No. 1 on the single Oricon chart.
06:4824 works.
06:50No. 1 on the album Oricon chart.
06:5217 works.
06:54Gray's way of composing songs.
06:58I want to hear it.
07:00In Gray, all the members write and compose songs.
07:04However, Takuro is in charge of most of the songs.
07:08How does he do it?
07:11In the first place, how do you make songs?
07:19That's what the four of us are going to interview.
07:21I'd like to ask the other three.
07:24How do you make Gray's songs?
07:28During the COVID-19 pandemic, we exchanged data.
07:32Takuro was in charge of arranging the songs.
07:38Kisashi was in charge of arranging.
07:41Jiro was in charge of the bass.
07:43After that, I was in charge of the vocals.
07:46How far did you go from Takuro to Kisashi?
07:52How far did we go?
07:54The atmosphere changed.
07:57It was rough.
07:59It was like an Egyptian mural.
08:03I could do what I wanted to do.
08:06I've been doing that since my debut.
08:09I understand what you want to do.
08:13You did that with Hoodanit.
08:15That's right.
08:16It was a terrible demo tape.
08:24How did you do it?
08:32After receiving the demo tape, what did you do?
08:37First of all, I made the session data.
08:42I listened to the atmosphere and asked Takuro to sing a song.
08:48I did something like a catch ball.
08:51I sent it to the other members.
08:55The special thing is that there is no band that is so close.
09:00The band is not so close.
09:06You look like a golden bomber.
09:09Only when the camera is turned.
09:14Gray is a folk band with a big sound.
09:19I wanted to make a small song that could be done with a guitar.
09:25I wanted to have fun as a rock band.
09:28I think it's a concept that will never change.
09:32I'm going to throw away the words.
09:35I want to do everything that a rock band needs.
09:39I asked Kisashi.
09:42I make songs that are easy to imagine.
09:52In the case of Takuro, it's a big cut.
09:54It's a big cut.
09:56Do you have an answer?
09:58I don't know.
10:00What would you do if you were me?
10:03It's flexible.
10:07I'm being tested every time.
10:09What was built by the two of you will be delivered to Jiro.
10:13I will arrange the bass.
10:15If I throw the original thing to Jiro, it will break.
10:19I can't decipher it.
10:21Do you two care about that stage?
10:25When I want you to put in a temporary song, it's a pretty early stage.
10:31Do you understand each other's common language?
10:36I'm going to throw it at the design stage.
10:39I'm going to ask you to trust me because it's going to be cool later.
10:44Don't judge me now.
10:46Don't judge me now.
10:48From what was in Takuro's head at first to the four of us.
10:52Is there a song that has changed a lot?
10:56There's nothing less than the highest point in my head I've ever aimed for.
11:02That's amazing.
11:05I'm always told,
11:07Thank you, everyone. You're getting cooler.
11:10I'm told I wrote a good song.
11:13I feel like I'm getting something.
11:15The good thing is that I'm not particularly particular about it.
11:20I have a lot of things.
11:22So I feel like I have to do this.
11:24After all, the view becomes narrower.
11:27The future of the song.
11:29Takuro doesn't have that, so it spreads more and more.
11:33I think it's a good ending.
11:36I've been in commercial music for 30 years.
11:40In the end, the band seems to be having fun.
11:44I feel like I've been doing it for 30 years with that in mind.
11:48I don't know if it's that important.
11:52I still have questions about myself.
11:55Each of us has a proper role.
11:58But I think it's great that it's organized.
12:01The color is gray.
12:03We had a very strong image of Takuro.
12:09When I opened the lid, it was divided into roles.
12:14I think it's the exact opposite of the so-called one-man band.
12:19I can feel that.
12:22I think it's connected to the goodness inside.
12:27Next.
12:31In the second half of the 1990s, Gray hit a lot of hits.
12:37The world was hit by Mischiel, Sazan, and Komuro.
12:41Takuro looked back on the music industry at the time.
12:44He said he made a song with such memories.
12:48Sazan, Mischiel, Komuro, and Tetsuya's songs.
12:55In the midst of the chaos,
12:58to find our place,
13:01we had to figure out who was taking which position.
13:05It's like drawing a picture of the post-war era.
13:08This is someone's place, and this is someone's place.
13:11Where should Gray build a house and cultivate a field?
13:15We were looking for our position.
13:19At the same time, we listened to all kinds of artists.
13:23Until we found our own style,
13:26I felt like I was running under the influence of the same generation of stars.
13:33It wasn't the time to be proud of Gray's style.
13:39In that sense, I listened to a lot of music.
13:42I also listened to rap that I wasn't good at.
13:45Takuro studied a lot of music.
13:48However, in one of Gray's representative songs,
13:51However, he said he was particularly influenced by a hit song.
13:56The song I listened to the most in the 90s was Amuro's Can You Celebrate.
14:02I was impressed.
14:04How did that influence you?
14:06I was impressed by the feeling of architecture.
14:11There was a powerful chorus, and then there was a sense of floating.
14:16It's like being taken to a different world.
14:19However, it was like a meeting between a man and a woman.
14:23It's such a beautiful song.
14:26We were already making our debut.
14:29At one point, I wrote the composition of Can You Celebrate.
14:33I was very impressed.
14:35We were already making our debut.
14:37At one point, I wrote the composition of Can You Celebrate.
14:41I wanted to make a song that matched this.
14:44I see.
14:45I made a binding for myself.
14:49I remember going to New York and writing it.
14:54Here is the composition that Takuro paid attention to.
15:05We will have a long, long time.
15:11It's wonderful.
15:19Amuro is amazing.
15:22I didn't know the word forever.
15:34It's like being told.
15:36That's right.
16:04I was afraid.
16:07I was afraid.
16:10But sometimes it's wonderful.
16:17I had a night.
16:20I had a smile.
16:23I can't help it.
16:26I'm living in the morning.
16:31It's not bad yet.
16:36However, based on this, once again.
16:46It's like being told.
16:48It's like being told.
16:49It's like being told.
16:50It's like being told.
16:51It's like being told.
16:57Now we start walking slowly.
17:10I see.
17:15It's interesting.
17:18It's amazing to have talks here.
17:21He looks like he's having a lot of fun.
17:51However, when the members first heard about it, they saw that the reaction wasn't very good, but how was it actually?
18:18Well, I think it was enough to break my previous pride.
18:29By the way, what kind of reaction did you get?
18:32Jiro said, this guy is a catchphrase.
18:37It's an old catchphrase.
18:41I've never said that.
18:48Do you remember when you first heard it?
18:50I don't remember.
18:52I was so busy at that time.
19:02At that time, we only had about four days to rehearse the band and record the vocals.
19:12At that time, Gray was active at an incredible pace, releasing singles and albums almost every year.
19:22I released four singles a year.
19:26Of course, it was a time when coupling was still necessary.
19:29However, the impression was that other artists were particularly flashy.
19:37It's true that this Gray song was buried in the melody, pitch, and sound.
19:48But Gray should do it.
19:51That's what I realized later.
19:55It's like an oasis.
19:59We've been doing the same thing for a long time.
20:02You can't do that without confidence and courage.
20:06It's been 30 years since we've been able to do that.
20:11We're the oasis of Japan.
20:13I want to raise my reputation.
20:15It's an oasis that won't disband.
20:17It's an oasis that won't have a brotherly fight.
20:21However, the song that was even more influenced by the hit song was not the only one.
20:27The song that attracted me was a song by Nishikawa-kun called White Breath.
20:37I think it would be interesting if Gray did this.
20:42It's flexible.
20:46This is the temptation that made TM Revolution's White Breath a hint.
20:59Why did you make a song based on a hit song?
21:04I was wondering what would happen if I did something like a trend at that time.
21:12There was a recording a month later.
21:15I was able to release what I felt today right away.
21:19That environment was fun.
21:22It's hard to make a song, but it's still a trend.
21:27I was able to participate in it while it was still in vogue.
21:33Kiryuin chose Kuchibiru for such a song in the 90s.
21:42Kuchibiru
21:47Kuchibiru
22:10Kuchibiru
22:17Kuchibiru
22:37Kuchibiru
23:07It's amazing to come up with this.
23:10If you make such a strange change, the impression of the song will be weakened.
23:15It's amazing to be able to make it so cool.
23:22Kuchibiru is on TV all the time.
23:29It's hard for the writer to be told to edit it.
23:33If you take the second part, the success of the story will be lost.
23:38I don't like it when it's edited.
23:43If it's 3 minutes, I'll make Kuchibiru in 3 minutes.
23:47It's the same as Amuro-chan.
23:49How do you draw yourself on a 3-minute map?
23:56That's how I reduce my stress.
24:00Unlike now, I'm influenced by the times.
24:08I also make songs.
24:10It's flexible.
24:12It's amazing.
24:14I used Can You Celebrate as a reference.
24:17White Breath?
24:19I didn't know.
24:21It's all dyed gray.
24:24I can't do that.
24:27Next.
24:31Gray is a vocalist and bassist.
24:34Takuro and Hisashi are in charge of the swing guitar.
24:39Kamemoto, the guitarist of Grim Spanky, chose Be Loved, where he practiced the intro with a guitar for the first time.
24:48Everyone is doing this.
24:50It's just difficult.
25:07This is the song he practiced on the guitar for the first time.
25:12From the phrase of the acoustic guitar arpeggio of the intro to the melody phrase of the electric guitar, the flow is very impressive.
25:24I think that practicing from the phrase of the electric guitar in the intro of this song has a great influence on his playing style.
25:35I like the long intro.
25:37Let's listen to Kamemoto's explanation again.
25:41Let's listen to Kamemoto's explanation again.
25:44Let's listen to Kamemoto's explanation again.
26:07A question from Kamemoto about this song.
26:14The guitar melody is also a very impressive song, but how is it made at what stage of production?
26:22I would like to know the secret of the impressive guitar phrase.
26:28I've probably talked to everyone about it, but I wanted to build on an orthodox guitar phrase.
26:43How did you come up with the phrase for this song?
26:50The composer, Takuro, plays the guitar.
26:54But the guitar of the composer is close to the accompaniment.
26:58Takuro was originally a guitar with a single coil fender.
27:03I naturally became in a position to play the melody with the Gibson sound.
27:09That's Gray's prototype.
27:13Here is the difference in guitar sound.
27:17Is it different?
27:18Let's listen to Kamemoto's explanation again.
27:38I've been a guitarist for a long time.
27:41One day, I realized that I was a great guitarist.
27:48When I thought about what I could contribute the most as a partner,
27:54I realized that I didn't play much.
27:57You mean you don't get in the way?
27:59That's amazing.
28:01It's easier now.
28:03I feel like I'm working just by playing four bars.
28:09I can stand up to my opponent.
28:12When I listen to Gray's songs, there are a lot of killer phrases.
28:19Takuro's emotional phrase is one of them.
28:24Please pick it up.
28:27I'm sure you've seen this picture before.
28:32Hisashi plays the A melody in the middle of the song.
28:45Takuro plays the second melody in the back.
28:48In fact, Takuro plays the second melody in live videos.
29:03Takuro plays the second melody in the back.
29:08Takuro plays the second melody in the back.
29:32Takuro plays the second melody in the back.
29:47Mr. Jiro, what do you think about these two guitarists?
29:56Basically, I'm the first one to work.
30:00There are times when the shape of the song has to be perfect.
30:10So I'm surprised that the guitar that came in later is like that.
30:15But it's getting more and more practical.
30:20I think I should play the bass as much as possible.
30:26In fact, when that happens, the guitar comes in with the phrase.
30:32On the other hand, if I make a back melody with a phrase,
30:38it becomes a guitar that can be held down.
30:41I don't talk about that at all, but I feel like it's been established.
30:48Mr. Takuro said in an interview that Mr. Jiro has made a significant growth as a bassist.
30:54What?
30:55He's a real guitarist.
31:00My Paul Wajima is...
31:04I've been playing Paul McCartney's singing bass lately.
31:10This is where Teru's songs and Jiro's songs come together.
31:16It's like a vacation for guitarists.
31:20That's a lot of fun, too.
31:23In the 90s and 2000s, there were a lot of additions.
31:30I don't know why I hated the fact that the sound was so thin.
31:35The sound in the city was very thick.
31:40I think it's because of the influence of American rock music.
31:45After that, I started listening to jazz.
31:47I only hear drums and pianos, but I don't feel anything lacking.
31:52When I thought that music was still deep,
31:57I was wondering who was talking to me.
32:02I've heard a lot of things about music that I didn't think about.
32:08He's saying good things, but everyone's saying bad things.
32:13I've been hearing a lot of funny examples.
32:17When he says something important, other players listen quietly.
32:22That's another way of playing.
32:25It's been 30 years.
32:27I think Gaya has the same way of thinking.
32:31When I listen to this song, I think Gaya is the same type as Takuro.
32:37Do you think so?
32:38Of course I do.
32:47The development of symbolic melodies is amazing.
32:51WINTER AGAIN
32:55GAYA
33:07If it's called Winter Again,
33:09some people may want to leave when they hear it.
33:13Some may love it because they want to see it.
33:20I think it's amazing that the development of a symbolic melody with two main dishes continues.
33:35I think it's going to be used as a commercial.
33:37I want to show you the white of the city where I was born.
33:45I wonder if I can meet you.
33:48I wonder if I can meet you.
33:51I wonder if I can meet you.
33:53On a cold night, I'm still dreaming.
33:58I wonder if I can meet you.
34:01And a question from Yanagisawa to Gray.
34:05Super Beaver is sung by me and Shibuya.
34:11Gray liked it, so there was no discomfort in its arrangement.
34:17The composition is mainly made by Takuro and sung by Teru.
34:22When you make a song, are you conscious of playing and singing by Teru?
34:28If it's not a song for other people, it's almost a song for Teru.
34:37For example, if Teru's singing voice has a lot of information and is persuasive, the lyrics will be thin.
34:49If it's a song with a strong voice and strong words, it's a bit of a burden.
34:56When I write lyrics and melodies, I'm trying to get the best performance out of Teru.
35:11I try not to put strong words on strong songs.
35:16I've never had the feeling of making it thin.
35:21I want to deliver it.
35:23I'm always thinking about how far I can get strong words to fly.
35:30I've never heard of the feeling of trying to make it weak.
35:38As a musician, I want to make a song that has an impact.
35:44But I don't have the desire to make it thin.
35:50That's why I've been doing this for 30 years.
35:54That's a good point.
35:57Do you change the lyrics while recording?
36:02It depends on the mood of the day.
36:11If the melody changes, the words change.
36:14If I sing comfortably, anything is fine.
36:17If it's hard to sing, I change it.
36:20If something in Teru explodes, the quality of the work will definitely improve.
36:33Teru's trust is amazing.
36:38It's like a session.
36:40It's a big deal.
36:42I think it's important to write a song with good words.
36:52I don't think I've ever made a song that has an answer.
36:56Ideas in my head don't become musical notes.
37:02I can't describe the feeling of the four of us who spent our teenage years in Hakodate.
37:13In addition, about Teru, who was originally in charge of the drums.
37:19You were originally a drummer.
37:22That's right.
37:23And Takuro-san became a vocalist.
37:26That's right.
37:27One day, I listened to the rehearsal tape without a vocalist.
37:35Originally, there were lyrics and melodies, so I put them in.
37:40The moment I heard that, I lost my balance for the first time.
37:44The first time?
37:45The first time.
37:47No, it was the second time.
37:49The first time was when I heard Boy's Be Blue.
37:54The second time was when I heard the ending of Boy's Be Blue and lost my balance.
37:59That's a loss.
38:00That's a loss.
38:01The third time was when I heard Teru's voice and lost my balance.
38:05The fourth time was when I lost my balance twice in three years.
38:08My back is already stiff.
38:11If I lose my balance again, I won't be able to stand up.
38:14I'll tell you.
38:15I'll tell you.
38:17But you've only lost your balance twice?
38:19That's right. I've only lost my balance twice.
38:23Depending on the type of singing voice and the song,
38:26even if it's a high-pitched melody,
38:28it's not a back voice, it's a front voice,
38:31but I often use a gentle voice in the song.
38:35When it's a sad melody or lyrics, I really sympathize with it.
38:39You can sing it exquisitely.
38:43I admire your ability to express it.
38:47In our hearts, the four of us decided to disband on New Year's Eve in 1999.
38:58Next.
39:03In the first place, Gray is a band formed by friends in Hakodate City, Hokkaido.
39:10Even if you become a member of the band,
39:12your relationship with your friends will not change at all.
39:16It didn't change at all.
39:20I don't know if it's a job or a friendship.
39:24When Mr. Takuro returned to Hakodate,
39:27I saw him going out to play with Mr. Teru.
39:30I thought he was going out to play.
39:33It's a regular thing.
39:37Even in Tokyo,
39:39when I was in Hakodate,
39:42I ate Teru's mother's food every morning and started the day.
39:48I've been eating her food since I was in junior high school.
39:53We don't have a chance to talk in particular.
39:58Sometimes we go fishing,
40:00sometimes we go to the park, the amusement park, or the festival.
40:04So you've never thought about disbanding?
40:12In 1999, we played at the Dome,
40:14we played in front of 200,000 people,
40:16and we even got a record deal.
40:20As a band, we were very tired.
40:27And we were told that the flow of the industry was this way,
40:31so let's go with this flow.
40:33When the four of us talked,
40:35we said no to that flow.
40:37What this means is that
40:39it's going to be a confrontation between management and the industry.
40:43If we keep doing what we want to do,
40:46which is to make pure music,
40:48and make a lot of money,
40:50it's going to be stable.
40:53That's when we decided to break up.
40:58If we're going to get hurt so much,
41:03we decided to quit.
41:05In our hearts,
41:07the four of us decided to break up on New Year's Day 1999.
41:12So on New Year's Day,
41:14the four of us went to a New Year's party at my house.
41:18I said, what are you going to do?
41:20He said, I want to sing a little more,
41:22so I'm going to make a solo album.
41:24I said, I see. What should I do?
41:26He said, let's play a song.
41:28I said, okay.
41:30He said, let's play a song.
41:32I said, if you don't invite Jiro, it's not bad.
41:35It's Gray!
41:37I said, that's right.
41:39I said, cheers!
41:41He said, isn't this Gray?
41:43It's Milk Boy.
41:49What is the secret that Gray continued to be in the band for 30 years?
41:57I'll ask Jiro.
41:59I'll ask Jiro.
42:01I heard that.
42:03I think I've received that kind of evaluation from various places.
42:08I think it's a balance.
42:10If you stand on the stage,
42:12you can get everyone involved,
42:15no matter who you are.
42:17I think that kind of pure part is still strong.
42:24For the first time in a while,
42:27suddenly,
42:29we, who have no acting history,
42:31were asked to play the role of a detective or a doctor.
42:37It's unfair, so I'm the director.
42:39The director said he wouldn't judge anything.
42:43The director at the scene said he didn't know what was right.
42:49He said he enjoyed that.
42:52As for the leader,
42:54there were various difficulties and troubles,
42:57but he listened to everyone's feelings and said,
43:00okay, I'll do something about it.
43:02There was such a reliable side,
43:04so I think I was able to come this far.
43:07You said a lot of good things.
43:10Thank you very much.
43:15It was interesting.
43:17I heard a good story at the end.
43:20We don't talk much about music.
43:28GRAY has been promoting that he will do GRAY for the rest of his life.
43:31So the fans of the band are the ones who support him
43:35while fearing the disbandment.
43:37I'm most afraid of the e-mail series and the e-mail.
43:41But GRAY has been saying that he will do it forever,
43:46so fans can support him with confidence.
43:49I think it's great that he's going to that zone.
43:52I think that's what he's aiming for.
43:54It was funny that he said,
43:56isn't this GRAY?
43:58That's the best story.
44:00That's what happened while drinking.
44:02This is the most interesting story ever.
44:06I play the guitar,
44:08and the bassist says,
44:10isn't this GRAY?
44:13That's definitely the best story.
44:18Hey, you're doing that again.
44:26This week, it will be broadcasted on TELUSA TV.
44:31Next week, we will find out what popular musicians don't usually listen to.
44:35What are the phrases that you do when you make a song?
44:38What are the habits hidden in a famous song?
44:42Since the day you appeared in front of me
44:47It's not a good song at all.
44:49What are your worries about being an MC?
44:53I think I spend a lot of time thinking about being an MC.
44:56It comes out too much.
44:57When I listen to it, it comes out.
44:59It's healing.
45:00It heals me.