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00:00Campbell talking about JMO yesterday.
00:02Huge topic.
00:05You guys have a lot to say yesterday about what happened.
00:08We're looking ahead.
00:09Fifth year option.
00:10If they had to make the decision today, would you pick it up?
00:13Yes or no and understand saying no doesn't mean he's cut doesn't
00:16mean he's traded.
00:17It means he'd play this season and all of next season and you'd
00:20still have the option to extend him.
00:23Assuming he produces and stays on the field, which is the camp
00:26I'm in.
00:27I'm going to get painted in whatever light you guys choose
00:29to paint me in but I would be of the belief that right now.
00:32I'm not giving him 15 million dollars guaranteed in his fifth
00:36season based on what I've seen so far.
00:38There's promise, of course, but it can't be promise.
00:41It has to be fulfilled.
00:42John, you challenged me with and what do you do?
00:45Well, I've got two seasons and in that time I can use my great
00:49general manager's big drafting brain to replace that in the
00:52interim, right?
00:53Is that not allowed?
00:54I don't have to go on the open market and pay 20 million dollars
00:57for a receiver.
00:58I can do what Brad Holmes has consistently proven.
01:00He wants to do draft and develop.
01:02I don't think you can pay multiple high-level receivers and
01:06multiple safeties and multiple pass rushers and multiple
01:09defensive line.
01:09Like at some point someone will get squeezed out and I think
01:12I have every right to evaluate Jamo's maturity before picking
01:16up a fifth year option.
01:18Yeah.
01:19Well, you still have time to measure that maturity.
01:21Yeah, see how we response from from the suspension and obviously
01:25the gun charges, but
01:28if you're not paying him as a top-level wide receiver because
01:34if you pick up that option, like I mentioned, you're going to
01:37have great value in being able to trade him.
01:41So
01:43and other teams, he would be a number one.
01:46Uncertain, bad, uncertain, bad teams.
01:48Yes, he would be a number one and could develop into a one
01:51for up for for more other teams.
01:53Sure.
01:53So you you increase the trade value of what you will get
01:57you're not going to get a first in return.
01:58No, and I understand the risk.
01:59If you don't pick up the fifth year and he balls out, you've
02:02lost a year of control.
02:04Well, not only that, but if if you don't pick up that for that
02:07fifth year option after your Fort, no matter if he balls out
02:10or not, you're going to have to pay more than 15 million dollars
02:13if you want him on the roster.
02:14So you're basically saying and it's but it's a longer commitment.
02:18This is a one-year commitment for 15 million dollars.
02:21There's no chance.
02:22They don't pick up that fifth year option for leverage.
02:24I guess it's fine.
02:25And that's the argument is leverage.
02:26My point is I would willingly pay him more than 15.
02:30If he had shown me that he had played you already said you can't
02:32you can't pay all of these guys this much money.
02:34My point is I want guys to go out and earn that bag and we've
02:36seen them do that with Sewell.
02:37We've seen them do that with st.
02:38Brown.
02:39Jerry golf was one that we, you know, had big debates on the
02:41station about he went out and earned it.
02:42I'm consistent on this go out and earn the money and we'll
02:44figure it out later.
02:45Someone else will get displaced.
02:46If you outplay one of your teammates, that's football.
02:48But right now, I don't think he's out playing any of the other
02:51guys, which is why I feel comfortable making that statement
02:53and that's not to say he's a bad football player.
02:55I know it's going to get twisted.
02:56The question was just would you pick it up or not?
02:58If you had to make the decision today, clearly, John, if he
03:01comes back and he's playing on Sunday night against the Houston
03:03Texans and he catches six balls for 150 yards and two touchdowns
03:08and that ends up setting the tone for the rest of the season.
03:11He has a big playoff game.
03:12Maybe it's a wild card round or an NFC title game.
03:15He was off to a hot start last year in the NFC title game.
03:17Then, of course, the reality is the Lions deadline would be at
03:20the end of that season and then you probably pick up the fifth
03:23option, but the question is asked today on October 31st.
03:25So today, you're saying no.
03:26He hasn't done those things.
03:28You're saying no.
03:29Yes.
03:31And again, I just go to, okay, let's take the other aspect that
03:35you mentioned.
03:36Yeah, Brad Holmes is really good at draft picks.
03:39Is there other needs?
03:42Because Jamison Williams is currently on the roster.
03:46You don't have to spend a draft pick on him.
03:48You don't have to give him a ridiculous four-year contract
03:52that's going to pay him a lot more than just the $15 million.
03:55I mean, how young are all of these players on the offensive
03:59line?
04:00How young is Zeitler?
04:00How young or fragile is Frank Ragnow, Graham Glasgow, Taylor
04:04Decker, who gave up a couple of sacks in the
04:07last couple of weeks.
04:08Your point is you want those picks to use on the offensive
04:11line. Right.
04:11I think they'll be better utilized on the offensive line.
04:14I don't think you're going to go out and spend one on a wide
04:17receiver in the first round and still get at the end of the
04:21first round or the end of the second round.
04:22Yes.
04:23I know we have Amon Ross St.
04:25Brown.
04:25He was a fourth-round pick.
04:26I understand all of that and maybe there are more gems that
04:29Brad Holmes can find, but the better gamble is doing it on
04:33the front end.
04:34Texter says, I am picking up the option, but by no means am
04:37I extending him beyond that and dropping a huge deal in his
04:39lap when he can't stay on the field, which is a completely
04:42different point.
04:42Right.
04:42So it buys you an extra year to find out if he is that guy.
04:45Right.
04:45This one says, it's funny.
04:47John's acting like a rookie couldn't do what Jamo does.
04:49Hey, Johnny has 42 career catches.
04:51He can be easily replaced.
04:52Okay.
04:53Well, then when that time comes, we'll have to make that
04:57decision.
04:57In today's NFL, there's no reason to pay two wide receivers.
05:00The draft is so deep every single year at that position.
05:03You trust your general manager.
05:05I can't believe you guys are talking about getting rid of
05:07Jamo.
05:08Let's make sure there's only one of us talking about getting
05:12rid of Jamo.
05:12I'm talking that is Jim Costa.
05:15I'm talking about having him on the team for two seasons.
05:18You wanted to get rid of Jared Goff.
05:20Look how that's turned out.
05:21Show a little foresight.
05:23Jamo says, this text says, Jamo's mistakes are minimal.
05:26Minimal seriousness.
05:28Very minor.
05:29He's not a bad apple.
05:29He's just young.
05:30He's not beating up a girlfriend or drunk driving.
05:33Says, I know you talking heads love these blabbing radio
05:35topics, but leave Jamo alone.
05:37He's going to help us win the Super Bowl.
05:39Yeah.
05:39Let's make sure that we insert Jim Costa.
05:42Leave Jamo alone.
05:45Let him go.
05:47More money.
05:49Mo Jamo problems.
05:51Reads a ticket text.
05:52This one says, it's a ridiculous question to ask.
05:54Of course, they're going to pick up the option.
05:55The fact that you're pushing this narrative is set.
05:58Real quick.
05:58What is my narrative that I want him to play good football
06:00before I would be comfortable giving him a raise?
06:02But your question is, it's crazy.
06:04I know it's radical.
06:05It's crazy.
06:06Question is, if we would pick it up now, and I know it's a
06:08risk, but if for $15 million, I'll take him as a number two
06:12versus just about anybody else in that football season because
06:16the Super Bowl window is what it is.
06:18I don't want to rely on hoping, and I understand Brad Holmes
06:23is good at the draft.
06:24Love it that he's good at the draft, but I want him to be
06:27good at the draft of continuing to build an offensive line.
06:30If they don't sign someone, and this is a question that we
06:33have going on right now.
06:34Let's just say they don't sign an edge defender.
06:37Where's the best area to pick one up?
06:40In the draft.
06:41Of course.
06:41But no, you've got to go out and get yourself a receiver.
06:44You're going to have more than one pick.
06:45You have more than one pick.
06:46They have more than one draft pick.
06:47Let's not act like you can't walk and chew gum at the same
06:49time. We've seen Brad do this, address multiple areas in
06:53multiple drafts and multiple off seasons.
06:55It's not like if JMO wasn't here three years from now, the
06:58Empire would crumble.
07:00How would they function?
07:01They would draft and develop like they always have, and they
07:03may give up a pick or two to get a pass rusher, which I would
07:06advocate for.
07:06That doesn't mean they can't also continue to keep the cupboard
07:09stocked. You got a good GM act like it.
07:11I just think, Jim, I'm not trying to be like mean here, but
07:14more like Jansen is.
07:15But I'm just kidding.
07:18The team has leverage and control.
07:20Yeah, and that's a very powerful thing to have here throughout
07:24this entire thing.
07:25You have a young dynamic receiver who is not a number one.
07:28He's a number two in this league right now.
07:30Could he become a one?
07:31Maybe I don't see it happening.
07:32I mean, the bigger picture thing here is that JMO, and I think
07:35a lot of people would agree with this, is that he's probably
07:39not getting extended here.
07:41He's probably going to be the first round draft
07:43pick that however he leaves town, he leaves town.
07:47But the team sounds like you're kicking him out.
07:48The reason the reason the rookie deal was put in place, the
07:51way the rookie contracts changed 10, 12 years ago in the NFL
07:55is it gives the teams way more control.
07:57It doesn't financially strapping the lines have.
07:59That's a pretty cheap option for a number two in year five.
08:02Yeah.