We Start Hour Tua on the phone line as DolFans demand Stephen Ross wake up and smell the coffee! Leroy compares their situation to Cleveland while Tobin deems fans complaints to be valid. The guys look back on the Dolphins mishaps from this off season. Leroy poses a good question: If you could do one thing over, what would it be?
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00:00Kia Dolphins are off today as they'll start getting ready for the Buffalo Bills at practice
00:04tomorrow. We'll hear a little bit from Mike McDaniels. We have a Dolphins caller, Marcos,
00:09is he still there? Yes, a seemed like a positive Dolph fan too from South Carolina. All right,
00:17George. Yeah, how you guys doing? Good morning. Good morning to you, sir. How are you? Yeah,
00:24we hear you good. I'm a diehard Dolphin fan. I used to live in Miami long time ago before I
00:32moved up here. I've seen Marino. I've seen Shula. I've seen the good teams that Shula had. When is
00:42Mr. Ross, who's 80 something years old, gonna come to his senses and see that this regime
00:50is not going anywhere? We have Dolphin fans are just tired of it year after year, not only for
00:58fans who live in Miami, but fans that live everywhere and nation all over. We are just
01:04fed up and tired. When is he going to wake up and smell the coffee? Yeah. All right, George.
01:11I'm curious, what would people like him to do?
01:21I'm curious what he's going to do, to be honest. But I'm just saying,
01:29they complain about him being loyal to a fault. And part of it is, if you look at
01:37the successful organizations, they've had patience. There's been years, take it from me,
01:45there's been years where they wanted to run Mike Tomlin out of time. There's still some
01:50Steelers fans that want to run him out of time. Yeah. Patience. I don't know what the answer is.
01:59I don't. But everybody has an opinion on what Stephen Ross and the team and everybody should do.
02:09First, you have to do this. Evaluate what happened.
02:15Get to the root of that problem and then make a decision. And to say that
02:25they shouldn't have gave two of the money. OK, you can say that. The numbers don't prove that.
02:33If you say, why don't we have a backup quarterback? I mean, come on, dude, because that's a fair
02:41criticism. OK, it is. But you have a backup quarterback thinking he can play, hoping he
02:47never has to. And then when he does is when you realize you don't have the right guy.
02:52Understood. But like that's that's the evaluation of it, though, is like you have this guy
02:57and he comes in and just he looks he looks. I mean, he looks at it. Dude, you just saw it.
03:03You're you know, Cleveland just did this with James Winston because he was the fourth guy.
03:08But what do you think is the fourth guy? Last year, the fourth guy is the fourth guy.
03:13I don't understand that. Sean and two other quarterbacks played before he did.
03:18Well, I mean, who else played before him? You had Thompson. He played this year. Yeah.
03:26He started a couple of games. He did this year. Are you talking last year? This year.
03:32And then they put another quarterback in when they swapped him out and then they put Jamison.
03:42Well, Jamison is the most credentialed guy, though. So.
03:45Well, Jamison is the most credentialed guy, though. Same thing. But again, like.
03:53If you're calling your team's failings on the fact they don't have a backup quarterback,
04:01then you're no. Now, I will say this.
04:08If there's any complaint that I have of this, the current construct of this team is this.
04:15They're too old. You don't have any young talent, all of your young talent you couldn't afford
04:24because of all the trades you made, bringing in all the old talent and the people who aren't
04:30playing aren't your young talent. It's your old talent that you're paying a lot of money to.
04:36That you're paying a lot of money to. Okay. Just for the record, though,
04:39Dorian Thompson, like he came in the game that that just got hurt.
04:42And then he started another game. No, he didn't. Not this year. I just looked. Okay. He started
04:48before, but not this year. Remember, they went through more of those changes last year when they
04:52ended up with Flacco. And I just say with the Dolphins, that is a miss. It's a miss evaluation.
05:02That's all that the guy they thought, because you're basing your opinion on the guy never
05:09playing. Well, the thing that's just, it's because everybody is like, and he did play last year.
05:17That was two years ago. He didn't play last year because Mike White was the backup.
05:22Right. But no, I think that that's 100% a valid criticism for them on your backup quarterback.
05:31Yeah, because you're so, so the biggest critique onto it. Okay. Is that he's injury prone and you
05:40need to have that. You need to have that squared away. You do. They misfired on it. It's a miss
05:47and that's their job. Okay. Okay. That is a bad, a bad decision. That's it. We want to fire
05:57everybody for that. Well, no, I think you want to fire everybody. I think people want to fire
06:01everybody because they're two and five right now. And they, and they, and I get that. Okay.
06:08But you do realize you're going to have the same enthusiasm for the next coach. For sure. I mean,
06:15look, look, and, and, and things might not go smoothly right away. How long are you going to
06:21keep having this cycle? Because while you're blaming the ownership and whatever the cycle
06:29itself, keep turning the cycle over and the organization over in the people over that is
06:36also a reason why you can't have any long-term success. Yeah. But Chris has been in the front
06:40office since 2000, dude. Okay. Yes, he has like, and I'm not, again, if you want to have a complaint,
06:49I told you what the complaint is. They're too old. Then you, anytime you've drafted anybody
06:54good, you couldn't afford to keep them. There's too old. And the guy has a huge
06:58flaw as a general manager, which is he doesn't give a rat's ass about signing injury prone players.
07:03Right. And that's not even just a two of thing. Like he's just like that. And he always thinks
07:08it's like, ah, it's not going to buy us in the ass. It's like, okay, but it probably is. This
07:11is a very violent sport. So my, my question into you, what would you have done differently
07:21for this year? Yes. I think that I didn't like the approach with the draft and then saying like, Oh,
07:30we had this offensive line on lock. We were laughing at everybody.
07:35Obviously the line's not the problem though. Hold on though. They, they went into this year
07:39and they had two issues that they were going to have. One is they had two star pass rushers
07:44injured. They had one that they could have had at a bargain. Yes. Agree. Stupid. Agree. We complained
07:54about that when it happened, they ended up signing Shaq Barrett who retired. Right. And thankfully
08:01Emmanuel Ogden didn't want to go anywhere else. And he goes, I'll just wait. They'll come back.
08:05Thankfully. But, but, but letting Van Gink's walk. Oh my God. Was that stupid?
08:10Yeah. We said it at the time. Wait, old line is the problem. Online is not the problem.
08:17Oh, line is not the problem. There were games where it was a problem. And the other thing is
08:21there were games where it wasn't. Yeah, sure. Like that, but that's not like normal football.
08:28Understood. I would have liked them to go and get an offensive lineman that could play this year.
08:33Like, and that's, I don't know if Patrick Paul can play or not, but I know that at all of this
08:37team that just spent a lot of money on everybody would like to get some draft contributions,
08:41like right away from somebody and like Tampa drafted a kid who's playing right away.
08:47You know, I just, I, I, I would agree. I would agree with that in the last,
08:53well, I'm not going to count a Noah Igman. Here's why that was the third first round pick, right?
08:59Yes. So they took a fly, took a flight. Okay. And the other two actually,
09:05um, was that the Chris Wilkins, um, to, uh, an Austin Jackson to announce that still on the team.
09:12Yep. Okay. So like, I, I do have questions about cam Smith, like how long, you know,
09:24he was drafting the second round. Yeah. He was their first pick last year.
09:28How long should he, how long should it be before he's contributing? I don't know that, you know,
09:35like, I don't know. And I don't know, like, I tell you one thing, like it's really hard
09:40because they threw chop Robinson in an awful situation because he didn't have any time to
09:45develop or whatever. He had to start right away, but they knew this beforehand, right?
09:51This is not see, but this is the thing. That's the point. That's the point that I would make is
09:57you know, we all summer, all summer, we had this argument. I'm like, I have crushed questions about
10:05the rush outside. Oh, Taylor Phillips being science. That was the, that was the argument
10:11we had instead of the real argument. He did. He did beat science instead of the real argument
10:16though. The real argument was what are they going to do at pass rush chop Robinson? Yeah.
10:23Eventually he will get there. You can't afford that right now.
10:28These are the decisions that I would have liked to have been made is that understanding where you
10:34are and not where you're going to be, because you're never going to get where you're going to
10:39be. If you don't take care now. And when those two guys got hurt, the first guy I would assign
10:47before the draft, before anything is Andrew Vanging. A hundred percent. So had you had an
10:54opportunity to kind of do something to accommodate your circumstances and you didn't do it. You
11:04relied on whatever. And the other thing is like, what, what, like, uh, was it like that? Andrew
11:11didn't even get an offer for that. Like, how did you put more effort into signing Odell Beckham
11:16jr. Correct. Whoever meeting Odell, will you come back, please? Can we convince him? Always
11:20like I don't need football. I don't think I'm going to be ready. We won't tell anybody that
11:25you're not going to be ready. Bye man. Ginkgo. Enjoy me the soda with the cold. Sorry, but,
11:37but again, so yes, you don't have to be so disgusted with me. Froggy.
11:43It's just, you're making points.
11:51When did he sign? If he's not German, what else would he be?
11:57Uh, potentially Asian from his, his, uh, HBO pass his HBO name.
12:03This is, isn't he, didn't he go to Wisconsin? He did go to Wisconsin.
12:07So he's probably, yeah. If you're from the Midwest, it's possible you could be German.
12:11That dude definitely got leader hosing when he was in Germany last year.
12:18He's from Wisconsin, right? Iowa, Iowa, Iowa. There's no, there's no German Iowans. You don't
12:28know that. Whoa. I've been to Iowa. There ain't nothing in Iowa, but corn. It goes corn, corn,
12:35university stadium, a hotel where we can stay. Damien says he's Dutch. Oh,
12:45no, don't, don't do it. Don't do it. You're trying to make yourself wait.
12:50He's trying to make himself right.
12:52What was the clogs?
12:59Capitalized says he's Swedish. Okay. Everyone's just making things up now. You know,
13:04Swedish TV was in the heat locker room yesterday. They were interviewing Pella Larson.
13:08No, Jimmy public goes, come on, stop talking.
13:12So like, regardless of all the other problems, right. I would say the glaring issue that I had
13:34before the season started. And I mentioned it all summer, the pass rush.
13:43We talked about it every and you're like, don't worry about it.
13:46Jalen Phillips would be back. I definitely thought that I thought Bradley Joe would be
13:49back by now too. I didn't know, but that's okay. Thinking somebody's going to be back
13:55and actually having a plan or two different things. I'm not the general manager.
14:00I don't know. I know, but I'm just saying that. And here's the other thing.
14:07The defense hasn't been terrible. It hasn't been, but you know,
14:13they've taken on some awful quarterbacks. No, don't do that. They did do it, but we weren't,
14:20we weren't doing that at the time, but dude, it's the truth. We're, we're,
14:24we're looking at everything now. I understand, but that's the truth is that they've taken on
14:30bad quarterbacks. Okay. I mean, is it safe to say that
14:38if I could give you one do-over on the team, I know what would it be?
14:50One do-over. One do-over.