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Justice Mansoor Ali Shah Apologizes for Not Attending Judge Faiz Isa's Reference | Experts Analysis

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00:00Assalamu alaikum ladies and gentlemen, we welcome you to the last program of the week on Friday.
00:16Once again, our program is full of news.
00:20I am your host, Khawar Guman.
00:22As usual, I am joined by Hassan Ayub from Karachi, Haider Naqvi from Lahore and none other than Chaudhry Ghulam Singh.
00:32Ladies and gentlemen, today was a big day.
00:35On the occasion of 25th October.
00:37In my opinion, if we say that there have been hundreds of programs in the past year.
00:42That this work will be done before 25th October.
00:46And if this work is not done before 25th October, then this will be done, then that will be done.
00:51By God's grace, the kufr was broken and today is 25th October.
00:57Ladies and gentlemen, today, the former Chief Justice Faiz Issa completed his term of office.
01:08And his term ended.
01:12On 17th September 2023, Faiz Issa took the oath as Chief Justice.
01:19And he became the Chief Justice of Pakistan on 29th October.
01:2425th October, that is today, on 24th October, was the last day of his term of office.
01:31Faiz Issa served 13 months and 404 days as the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
01:44And today he has retired.
01:46Now, his term, ladies and gentlemen, was an even full term, if you say, according to my definition.
01:53You saw that a lot of political cases were heard during his term.
02:02There are a lot of controversies in it, which are still going on.
02:05Today, once again, there is a full court reference, there is a tradition.
02:09There is a tradition that on the last day of Chief Justice or any judge, he superannuates and his retirement day arrives.
02:17So, if he is in the High Court, there is a full court reference.
02:20If he is in the Supreme Court, there is a full court reference.
02:23Now that the Chief Justice is retiring, of course, the importance of this full court reference increases.
02:28So, according to the tradition, as usual, today there was a full court reference.
02:32But since his term was full of controversies, today once again we saw that five of his brother judges abstained from this reference.
02:45There, his absence was noticed.
02:48Among the five judges who abstained today, first of all, Senior 3, who is now a Supreme Court Judge, Justice Mansoor Ali Shah,
02:57he also wrote a letter in this regard.
02:59Viewers will also keep the details of that letter in front of you.
03:02Justice Muneeb Akhtar's confrontation with the former Chief Justice during the last year,
03:10everyone knows about the legal issues.
03:13Justice Aishat's number is also among those judges.
03:16You know, the eight judges in the special session,
03:19whose decision has been written in a controversial note,
03:23that the former Chief Justice should not be subjected to this.
03:26After that, Justice Athar Manila, the former Chief Justice of the Lahore High Court,
03:29who is now a Supreme Court Judge,
03:33and Justice Malik Shehzad, he is also the former Chief Justice of the Lahore High Court.
03:39So, he abstained.
03:40Therefore, today's day, traditionally, when someone is leaving,
03:46since it is the day of retirement, people forget their ties,
03:54their differences, the issues they have with each other.
03:57But despite all this, the five judges abstained today.
04:02Viewers, before moving to the details,
04:06I will go to the details after taking the immediate reaction, the quick comments.
04:12First of all, Mr. Chaudhary Ghulam Sain, if I ask you in two or three sentences,
04:18how would you remember the former Chief Justice, Justice Qazi Faiz Isa?
04:26I would say that I wish he had never become Chief Justice.
04:31Because if I look back,
04:34in all this time, not a single person whose human rights have been violated,
04:40has received any relief from his court.
04:44I think it was a black period.
04:47Absolutely no one will give him a good light.
04:50Absolutely. Your opinion has come to light.
04:53Mr. Naqvi, a quick comment.
04:55You, Justice Qazi Faiz Isa, the former Chief Justice,
04:58the 29th Chief Justice of Pakistan,
05:01his 13 months and 404 days period,
05:04how would you sum it up in three or four sentences?
05:08Pakistan is probably the only society in the world
05:13where the decision of someone's goodness or evil is not made in due course,
05:18but is made by history.
05:20We saw Akbar Bugti in this society,
05:22who was killed in a cave and was said to be a terrorist.
05:25Today, everyone remembers that he was a great Baloch leader,
05:28and today he could have been a great messiah for Balochistan.
05:31We saw Dr. Abdul Qadir Khan in this society,
05:34who was imprisoned at home, who was the messiah of this nation.
05:37But when he was Dr. Qadir Khan,
05:39people used to say that he was the one who caused harm to this nation.
05:42Today, this very nation remembers Dr. Abdul Qadir Khan as a hero.
05:46So all this has to happen with Qazi Faiz Isa.
05:48When time passes, then this nation will remember that yes,
05:51Absolutely right.
05:52History will know how great Qazi Faiz Isa's tenure was,
05:59or how black he was.
06:01This is what happens in the world.
06:06Hassan, how would you remember Qazi Faiz Isa?
06:10I would like to clarify a little.
06:12He is the Chief Justice of Pakistan, Supreme Court of Pakistan,
06:16by 12 o'clock tonight.
06:17He will be retired after 12 o'clock.
06:19So technically, when we are talking right now,
06:21we are talking about the Chief Justice of the country, Supreme Court of Pakistan.
06:25Secondly, I have never seen such an open-hearted man,
06:29who took extreme criticism of his personality,
06:32and did not initiate any court proceedings.
06:35And the biggest thing is that when he was requested to give relief to those who criticized him,
06:43he said, I have nothing to do with him directly.
06:45So he was told to play his role on the administrative side.
06:50So he still did a favor and did not bring him respect.
06:54And I am his witness.
06:57I was the one who said that.
06:59And whatever he did on that, Allah knows.
07:03And the last thing.
07:04He has served the country.
07:06And I was telling you that if my news is not correct,
07:09then I will salute.
07:10I salute the Chief Justice, Qazi Faizi.
07:12I salute the way he served the country and the way he decided.
07:15I salute him.
07:16Viewers, this correction that Hassan has done,
07:18this procedure is fine,
07:20but once a Chief Justice takes his reference,
07:23the Supreme Court, the al-widai judges give their speeches,
07:27the Chief Justice leaves the building,
07:30then he says Khuda Hafiz and leaves.
07:33Yes, if our program is going on at 7 o'clock in the evening,
07:36then if you want to go back to the Supreme Court for a while,
07:39then the Chief Justice leaves, but he is like.
07:42He can say that he is still there, he is not a former,
07:44but yes, he has removed his black coat.
07:48Viewers, certainly you would also like to know
07:50what is my opinion about the Chief Justice.
07:54Certainly, any judge or any ruler,
07:59the Prime Minister or the President decides the date,
08:02but the most politicized judges will be known,
08:08but the most politicized judges will be known,
08:12and a very clear difference was seen.
08:15There was not a single case in which he had decided
08:21in favor of the party, the party he is taunting,
08:24that he has put a grudge against us, Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf.
08:27I tried a lot to get one case,
08:30Hassan Ayub or Mr. Naqvi, please help me.
08:32There is not a single case,
08:33but I would like to make a comment here,
08:36the incoming Chief Justice, Mr. Yaya Fareedi,
08:39he summed it up very beautifully,
08:42that this Mr. Qazi Faiz,
08:45if you talk to him lovingly, he will answer you lovingly,
08:49and if you provoke him,
08:52then he will attack you like an animal.
08:55Viewers, he has quoted an English sentence,
08:59he keeps it in front of you.
09:01If you meet, greet and treat Justice Qazi Faiz Isa
09:07with a smile and humility,
09:09he will reciprocate with such gentle softness,
09:13politeness and care that it will leave you astonished.
09:17If you in any way provoke him,
09:20or if I may say so, poke the bear,
09:23then even hell hath no fury to match his scorn,
09:28and only God may help and save you.
09:33I have faced such wrath of this bear many times.
09:38Ladies and gentlemen, let me tell you,
09:43the experience was not pleasant.
09:47Viewers, as he speaks in English,
09:50if he speaks well in Urdu, more people will understand.
09:53He said, if you meet Qazi Faiz Isa with love,
09:57greet and hug him,
10:00then he will hug you with the same force.
10:03But if you trouble him or poke him,
10:06then it is as if you have poked the bear,
10:10you have touched the bear,
10:13and when the bear attacks, he is in front of you.
10:16Then he said, then such a doomsday falls on you,
10:19I am translating his words in English,
10:22that only God can save you.
10:25I have provoked him a few times,
10:28so I can tell you how angry he is.
10:31And in the era of Pakistani justice,
10:34because there was a reference file against him,
10:37and his family, especially Qazi Faiz Isa's wife,
10:40had to go to court.
10:43So this is an impression,
10:46that because he was angry,
10:49he did not come out of it for a year.
10:52Let's move on to our argument.
10:55Today, when the reference was going on,
10:58speeches were being held,
11:01about Qazi Faiz Isa's services,
11:04the Attorney General said,
11:07the officials of various bars,
11:10they gave long speeches.
11:13And along with that, the letter,
11:16Justice Mansoor Ali Shah,
11:19I will also put that translation in front of you.
11:22Justice Mansoor Ali Shah has written in his letter,
11:25that giving reference to the former chief justice,
11:28to officially acknowledge his services,
11:31and his commitment to upholding justice,
11:34is a Muslim tradition all over the world.
11:37However, traditions, like customs,
11:40depend on the qualities of these people,
11:43who imitate them.
11:46When Justice Saqib Nisar,
11:49crossed the limits of his role,
11:52and interfered in other matters,
11:55I also refused to participate in his reference.
11:58And on 17th January 2019,
12:16Justice Saqib Nisar went very far,
12:19but through his conduct,
12:22he kept these people away from him.
12:25So, you were saying,
12:28leave it, don't talk about this,
12:31but there are a lot of incidents,
12:34please do me a favour,
12:37he is a respected person for us,
12:40because the position of the Chief Justice of Pakistan,
12:43which great service of Pakistan,
12:46did he do?
12:49I don't know what kind of service,
12:52he was doing to the nation.
13:13He led from the front,
13:16and you may remember,
13:19the investigation against him,
13:22how dare you,
13:25a sitting judge,
13:28and majority of the decision,
13:31from NAB case,
13:34he always went with,
13:37Qazi Faiz Isa,
13:40obviously, he is his friend,
13:43he has worked together,
13:46it seems he is genuinely hurt,
13:49obviously, there is an opinion on this,
13:52that because it was his right,
13:55he reacted,
13:58but there is a history,
14:01the devil is always in detail,
14:04what would you say about this letter?
14:07It is written that Qazi Faiz Isa has betrayed,
14:10there is no doubt,
14:13that Qazi Faiz Isa has betrayed,
14:16every person who wanted to,
14:19break the rules of this country,
14:22every person or community,
14:25who wanted to spread anarchy in this country,
14:28destabilize the country,
14:31every thought,
14:34even if it is a community's,
14:37or community's,
14:40Qazi Faiz Isa has betrayed this country,
14:43history will always remember him,
14:46in our view,
14:49Qazi Faiz Isa has done his duty,
14:52Qazi Faiz Isa has done a good job,
14:55his memory is not that good,
14:58I don't think he can be elected,
15:01The elections have been going on for a year now.
15:03The elections have been going on for a year now.
15:05The elections have been going on for a year now.
15:07You are right.
15:09The biggest achievement of Qazi Fahimi
15:11The biggest achievement of Qazi Fahimi
15:13is that Qazi Fahimi
15:15is in his real form.
15:17is in his real form.
15:19This is a big favour to Pakistan.
15:21This is a big favour to Pakistan.
15:23Naguib sahib, you are right.
15:25Hassan has made a long list
15:27Hassan has made a long list
15:29of his services to Qazi Fahimi
15:31of his services to Qazi Fahimi
15:33and his good decisions
15:35and his good decisions
15:37and his good decisions
15:39and his good decisions
15:41and his good decisions
15:43and his good decisions
15:45and his good decisions
15:47and his good decisions
15:49and his good decisions
15:51and his good decisions
15:53and his good decisions
15:55and his good decisions
15:57we will know from Hassan Ayyub
15:59the services he has provided
16:01the services he has provided
16:03for a year now
16:17the programmes for him is open
16:19the programmes for him is open
16:21generally
16:23generally
16:25Chief Justice Qazi Faheesa's time, there was a division in the judges and there was a
16:29strife.
16:30It wasn't like it was in the time of Justice Umarta Bandyal.
16:33We could see this strife.
16:35First, we used to listen to their arguments behind closed doors.
16:39Then, in the benches, there were letters.
16:42Then, like Justice Mansoor Ali Shah has written a letter today, we saw that.
16:47Then, in the benches, we saw the drama.
16:50In the Supreme Court, all the drama that took place in the time of Justice Umarta Bandyal,
16:54even a quarter of that drama didn't take place here in the time of Justice Qazi Faheesa.
16:59Secondly, Justice Mansoor Ali Shah is very sad.
17:02He was very ready.
17:04He wanted to wear a sherwani as the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
17:08A constitutional amendment will be made before his death.
17:11And after the constitutional amendment, Justice Jaya Afridi is taking the oath of the Chief
17:17Justice of the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
17:19Now, his heart is sad.
17:21He didn't stop.
17:22He left for the performance of Saudi Arab Umrah, which was not planned.
17:26But the question is that when you appointed the Chief Justice from the third position
17:31in Lahore High Court, then what you did there, the same thing happened with you.
17:36This is the work of Allah.
17:37Allah wants to send someone to this position.
17:39I say that in the fate of Alia Neelam Sahiba, the Chief Justice of Lahore High Court had
17:43to be appointed.
17:44So, she was appointed.
17:45Now, in the fate of Justice Jaya Afridi, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Pakistan
17:49has been appointed.
17:50Now, a person should accept it with an open heart.
17:52And the kind of letter he has written, he is showing it.
17:56It reflects very clearly that Justice Mansoor Ali Shah is hurt.
18:01And he has been hurt a lot.
18:03And the other judges who didn't come.
18:05That is, Justice Atar Mandela didn't come.
18:08Justice Shehzad Malik didn't come.
18:10Justice Ayesha Malik didn't come.
18:11And Justice Muneeb Akhtar, as you know, he had an argument with his wife once.
18:16And he was very angry with Sareena Issa Sahiba in the courtroom.
18:21But even then, I will say that judges should leave their differences.
18:26You have taken a decision.
18:28And with the money of the taxpayer, your salary is paid.
18:33So, you don't have to do as you please.
18:35You have to follow the traditions and the law.
18:37Absolutely.
18:38Your opinion came forward, but I didn't enjoy it.
18:42Normally, you speak very well, but I don't know what happened.
18:45No, I have spoken very well.
18:46Now, you don't want to listen.
18:47You want to listen to something else.
18:48I want to say that in the era of Qadir Bajaj Zaid,
18:51Legacy.
18:52Legacy is about judges.
18:57Their judgments.
18:59The decisions they gave.
19:01And the petitions that remained in front of them,
19:05which they avoided.
19:06It would have been better if they had listened to it.
19:08The most important case, which I think is of great importance,
19:13as a journalist,
19:15they should have taken up.
19:18They put up a three-member bench.
19:20But they were listening to five members first.
19:22So, a new bench should have been built on it.
19:24That is the case of our martyr Arshad Sharif Dost.
19:27It is still pending.
19:29And when he died on October 23,
19:32we requested the Chief Justice to push the government on it.
19:37Whatever the case is, do it.
19:39This case was ignored.
19:41After that, the most important case,
19:44which Mr. Musroori Shah has given a little reference to,
19:47was it wrong or right?
19:49There can be an argument on this.
19:51Six judges of the Islamabad High Court
19:54kept their hearts open.
19:56Whatever happened to them, they wrote a letter.
19:58The case is still pending on it.
20:01What will become of it?
20:03The next Chief Justice has to see.
20:06There is another important case.
20:08As you know, there is a petition pending on Military Courts.
20:11That too is pending.
20:13I think it should have been resolved.
20:15Those who have done wrong,
20:17if they come under Military Courts,
20:19it should have been resolved.
20:21It is still pending.
20:23We have made a list of cases.
20:25Practice and Procedure Act.
20:27As you know, this committee was formed.
20:29There was another act, an ordinance.
20:31Some people think that
20:33the Chief Justice,
20:35who is here till midnight,
20:37as per his wish,
20:39the committee was terminated.
20:41Tahiyat Nahili case.
20:43Mr. Nawaz Sharif, as you know,
20:45was acquitted.
20:47Mr. Jahangir Khan was acquitted.
20:49An excellent case.
20:51The case of the 8th February election,
20:53the historical case, is in front of you.
20:55Level playing field case.
20:57PTI thought it should be of the Judiciary.
20:59They said no, it should be of the Government.
21:01Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto's case.
21:03A very important case.
21:05The decision was given by him.
21:07It was a very pending overdue.
21:09PTI Inter-Party Elections case.
21:11It is a sign.
21:13That decision, as you know,
21:15there was a petition.
21:17It is still pending.
21:19The case of Naib Tarameen,
21:21that too is pending.
21:23Munal Restaurant.
21:25In Pakistan,
21:27a building is demolished.
21:29In Karachi,
21:31Nasla Tower was demolished.
21:33Justice Gulzar's judgement is
21:35based on this.
21:37In Islamabad, there is an iconic
21:39Munal Restaurant.
21:41In Islamabad, it is said that
21:43there was only one thing.
21:45Obviously, it was against the law.
21:47It was demolished.
21:49Mubarak Sani's case,
21:51as you know,
21:53was made by Chief Justice.
21:55It was not demolished,
21:57it was made.
21:59The water was kept safe.
22:01It was kept safe.
22:03After that,
22:05there was Suni Thaat Council.
22:07He was in the minority.
22:09The case of Article 63A,
22:11which the PTI accused
22:13of facilitating against us.
22:15These are their cases.
22:17Let's go to the break.
22:19After the break,
22:21Chief Justice is going to be
22:23the Chief Justice.
22:25I will correct you after 12 pm.
22:27He will be the Chief Justice
22:29tomorrow.
22:31According to the notification
22:33of the President of Pakistan,
22:35by all means,
22:37he is the Chief Justice.
22:39He just had a break.
22:41What are the challenges
22:43in front of him?
22:45Namzat,
22:47the 30th Chief Justice,
22:49Justice Yahya Afridi,
22:51will take up his office tomorrow.
22:53During his
22:55reference today,
22:57he told us
22:59what he wants,
23:01what his priorities are,
23:03what he is thinking in the coming days.
23:05He has been appointed for
23:07three years.
23:09Now,
23:11as for what lies
23:13ahead,
23:15let me assure all
23:17that with the blessings
23:19of Allah Almighty,
23:21for the citizens
23:23of Pakistan, rule of law
23:25shall rule.
23:27Principles
23:29of trichotomy of power
23:31shall prevail.
23:33Dignity
23:35of a judge and majesty of the court
23:37shall be strictly ensured.
23:39Viewers,
23:41let me tell you the translation.
23:43There will be no compromise on the rule of law.
23:45Trichotomy of power shall prevail.
23:47Trichotomy of power,
23:49he is saying, between the judiciary,
23:51the judiciary and the administration,
23:53the cartoon I showed you the other day,
23:55he was saying that we will ensure
23:57that there is no compromise.
23:59After that, he said
24:01dignity of a judge
24:03and majesty of the court shall be strictly
24:05ensured that no one will be allowed
24:07to talk about the court
24:09or talk about the judges.
24:11Viewers, you can see
24:13this, the other day,
24:15Don's editorial,
24:17through the cartoon, he said
24:19that because of this
24:21amendment,
24:23he will try to
24:25ensure trichotomy of power.
24:27The second announcement he made was
24:29that his immediate focus will be on what?
24:31Immediate focus would have
24:33to be extended to the furthest
24:35districts, Jewani in Balochistan,
24:37Tank in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,
24:39Ghotki in Sindh and
24:41Sadiqabad in Punjab.
24:43It is these furthest districts
24:45which deserve our attention
24:47and the best of the best judges
24:49should go because
24:51they deserve them more than anyone else.
24:53In my opinion,
24:55this is a very important announcement
24:57that the courts in the remote areas
24:59should go to the best judges.
25:01I will ensure
25:03that Pakistan does this.
25:05The third announcement,
25:07Viewers,
25:23Viewers, you have seen
25:25that the case in which women
25:27are disabled,
25:29will be tried to solve as soon as possible.
25:31Viewers, the two or three
25:33challenges are in my view.
25:35I will come back to my panelists.
25:37There are more than one petition
25:39on the judicial review of the 26th
25:41amendment.
25:43They have to decide what will be done.
25:45After that, you know
25:47that the matter of practice and
25:49procedure, the matter of the committee,
25:51will they take care of it or
25:53like Mansoor Ali Shah wrote
25:55a few days ago that until and unless
25:57the full court sits down and
25:59does not find a solution to the issue,
26:01I will not be a part of the bench.
26:03These are the challenges.
26:05Mr. Naqvi, in your opinion,
26:07what is the biggest challenge for
26:09Mr. Chief Justice, who is going
26:11to take his case tomorrow?
26:13Mr. Chief Justice,
26:15who is the future Chief Justice,
26:17he said something about the term
26:19and then voted and
26:21did not respond.
26:23Look here, until then,
26:25the Supreme Court or any court
26:27cannot do things right
26:29until you improve the prosecution.
26:31You have to improve the prosecution.
26:33The biggest thing the courts
26:35have to do is to improve
26:37the prosecution.
26:39Today, Mr. Chief Justice said
26:41that we are dependent on paper.
26:43The paper gives you the prosecution.
26:45Now, whatever is written on it,
26:47you decide according to it.
26:49So, if you improve the prosecution,
26:51then not only in these areas,
26:53but in every case, you will be able
26:55to take Pakistan on a better path.
26:57Mr. Chief Justice,
26:59rule of law, trichotomy of power
27:01shall prevail.
27:03Dignity of the judge
27:05and majesty of the court
27:07will be ensured.
27:09Rule of law, trichotomy of power
27:11will be ensured. Mr. Chief Justice.
27:13What can be a better announcement
27:15than this?
27:17If they go in this direction,
27:19because the judiciary
27:21is separate.
27:23You know my opinion on it,
27:25I think they have
27:27announced
27:29a very appropriate flag.
27:31The rule of law is that
27:33you and I are equal
27:35in the spirit of the law.
27:37The decision can go
27:39in the hands of the person
27:41on whom it should not go.
27:43No injustice should be done to anyone.
27:45Here, it has become very difficult
27:47as to when justice is being done
27:49and when there is a period of injustice.
27:51Viewers,
27:53I would like to give credit
27:55to Justice Yahya Afridi.
27:57He is the first one
27:59weeks ago
28:01who said that
28:03he is going to be the next Chief Justice.
28:05We had no idea
28:07at that time.
28:09Mr. Naqvi, I remembered
28:11and wanted to tell the viewers.
28:13The biggest challenge
28:15for you, Mr. Chief Justice,
28:17are the political cases.
28:19Obviously, you have to become a bench.
28:21It is possible that you will become
28:23the presiding judge.
28:25You know that
28:27many cases are already going to the other side.
28:29How to keep the balance
28:31and how to manage the judicial review?
28:33What do you think?
28:35Justice Yahya Afridi
28:37also complains to the PTA.
28:39This is your assessment.
28:41Yes, I am giving my analysis.
28:43He also complains to Chief Justice
28:45that he did not provide facilitation.
28:47In the last session,
28:49he was getting facilitation.
28:51The government's objective was not
28:53to appoint Mr. Yahya Afridi
28:55to favor him.
28:57This was his wish
28:59and attempt
29:01that he decides
29:03on the merit.
29:05He has no political
29:07alignment with anyone.
29:09This is his great quality.
29:11This is the happiness
29:13for Pakistan.
29:15But the problem of PTA is
29:17to enjoy the status.
29:19This has been proven
29:21since the time of
29:23Saqib Nisar.
29:25He has always got relief.
29:27Do you know what he said
29:29in 25th of May?
29:31He said that the judicial review
29:33should start against him.
29:35The case of 25th of May
29:37is still shelved.
29:39It has not been filed.
29:41It is in the Supreme Court.
29:43If Justice Yahya Afridi
29:45takes up the case of 25th of May,
29:47he has to scream.
29:49It is a clear view
29:51of Justice Yahya Afridi
29:53that he does not allow
29:55anyone to take up the case.
29:57In my opinion,
29:59PTA will have the biggest problem
30:01in times to come.
30:03Justice Yahya Afridi
30:05will have a bigger problem
30:07than Qazi Faiz and Justice Qazi Faiz.
30:09This is my opinion.
30:11This is Hassan Ayub's assessment.
30:13Judgement of Justice Yahya Afridi
30:15in different cases
30:17is always by the book.
30:19When Chief Justice
30:21was in Peshawar High Court,
30:23he was told
30:25that he is a pro-PTA.
30:27I was reading
30:29his comment yesterday.
30:31He has always
30:33addressed
30:35all the cases
30:37through the law.
30:39Now,
30:41we have two stories.
30:43Tahiyab Qaid
30:45has gone to London.
30:47Hassan Ayub
30:49has a scary story.
30:51Busha Bibi
30:53has come out of jail.
30:55She has a news
30:57that PTA
30:59will handle her
31:01as a senior leader.
31:03Today, a meeting was called.
31:05Formally,
31:07Busha Bibi
31:09clarified that
31:11she has nothing to do
31:13with any political activity.
31:15Hassan, do you have a story?
31:17I don't have a story.
31:19I just want to say
31:21that what is Busha Bibi
31:23doing in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa's house?
31:25She is a housewife.
31:27Her husband is in jail.
31:29She has a house in Benigala
31:31and a house in Lahore.
31:33What is the purpose
31:35of living in a house
31:37where her husband is in jail?
31:39If my wife is a party worker,
31:41will she go to her house?
31:43Will she go to her colleague's house?
31:45She can't go there.
31:47Do you really think
31:49you should pass this kind of promise?
31:51I am just asking.
31:53What is the purpose
31:55of her going to Khyber Pakhtunkhwa?

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