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Married at First Sight UK 2024 - Series 9 Episode 21_ At the Commitment Ceremony
In this intense episode, the couples gather for the Commitment Ceremony, where they face the experts and confront the issues that have been brewing.
A shocking revelation sends the group reeling, putting more than one marriage on the line.
The tension escalates, leading to a nail-biting showdown as some couples struggle to decide whether to stay together or walk away.
Key Moments:
Expert Confrontation: The couples face the experts, Mel Schilling, Paul C Brunson, and Charlene Douglas, who challenge them to address their concerns and issues.
Shock Revelation: A surprising revelation rocks the group, causing significant tension and drama.
Tense Showdown: The episode culminates in a dramatic showdown, with some couples making tough decisions about their future together.
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Host: AJ Odudu dissects the weekly drama and gossip, adding to the overall tension and excitement of the episode.
Married at First Sight UK 2024 - Series 9 Episode 21_ At the Commitment Ceremony
In this intense episode, the couples gather for the Commitment Ceremony, where they face the experts and confront the issues that have been brewing.
A shocking revelation sends the group reeling, putting more than one marriage on the line.
The tension escalates, leading to a nail-biting showdown as some couples struggle to decide whether to stay together or walk away.
Key Moments:
Expert Confrontation: The couples face the experts, Mel Schilling, Paul C Brunson, and Charlene Douglas, who challenge them to address their concerns and issues.
Shock Revelation: A surprising revelation rocks the group, causing significant tension and drama.
Tense Showdown: The episode culminates in a dramatic showdown, with some couples making tough decisions about their future together.
.
Host: AJ Odudu dissects the weekly drama and gossip, adding to the overall tension and excitement of the episode.
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00:00:00Previously, after Hannah faced the wrath of the group, one groom offered a welcome distraction,
00:00:19but it was an indiscreet proposition from Stephen that prompted outrage.
00:00:27Stephen said, if Ryan doesn't turn up tonight, I'm going to shoot myself.
00:00:31Stephen's definitely broke all cold.
00:00:35And Polly's attempts at damage control...
00:00:37I'm sorry. I'm f***ing sorry, Adam. There you go.
00:00:41...fell short of Adam's expectations.
00:00:43It's a fake sorry. I don't cut it.
00:00:46The stuff that he said about me is f***ing hurtful.
00:00:50Tonight...
00:00:54I want to spend the rest of my life with you.
00:00:57She's finally seeing who I actually am.
00:01:00The impact of the retreat hits home.
00:01:02I felt betrayed. My head's been scrambled.
00:01:05It almost felt like sex was a sales pitch.
00:01:07Pushing some marriages...
00:01:09This is going to be hard to hear.
00:01:10This is why I prepare myself for the worst.
00:01:13...to breaking points.
00:01:14At that moment, I knew I could not stand him.
00:01:18Just like squeezing blood from a stone.
00:01:21Were you trying to make Stephen jealous?
00:01:23You can't make a guy jealous of you that doesn't give a f*** about you.
00:01:24Why do I want to even speak to this girl?
00:01:26But it's a shocking revelation.
00:01:28Have they not been sneakily kissing?
00:01:31They've what?
00:01:32You consider what you did an act of infidelity?
00:01:35That delivers the biggest blow of the evening.
00:01:38She deserves to know.
00:01:39I think it's bullshit.
00:01:40Snake.
00:01:42Hannah Zippit.
00:01:43Don't tell me to shut up.
00:01:44You're a sly guy.
00:01:45You're talking f***ing shit.
00:01:47It is very clear that this relationship is done.
00:01:56Is that I love you or is it just love?
00:01:58It's not I there.
00:02:00And I'm up to you, don't you point it.
00:02:03Wouldn't you just say I love you?
00:02:06I love you.
00:02:08As the couple settle back into apartment life...
00:02:11Do you mind coming to help me?
00:02:13I've never done this before.
00:02:15Yes, I do, all the time.
00:02:18...they're reflecting on their time away.
00:02:20The retreat down Asgard, because, obviously,
00:02:22a lot of the other couples weren't getting on,
00:02:24it just makes you realise what you do have.
00:02:27We've come back, and I feel cured.
00:02:32And now that we're understanding each other better,
00:02:34I don't see us clashing as much.
00:02:36I'd say we're in a good place now.
00:02:37The best place we've ever been in.
00:02:42I'm not going to lie, I'm not going to lie.
00:02:44I'm not going to lie.
00:02:45I'm not going to lie.
00:02:46I'm not going to lie.
00:02:47I'm not going to lie.
00:02:48I'm not going to lie.
00:02:50The retreat was really nice, wasn't it?
00:02:51Definitely.
00:02:53Me and Ciarán, we had a lovely time at the retreat.
00:02:57It's really difficult being around me when I have PMDD,
00:03:02but we are in a good place.
00:03:04And he's been really supportive.
00:03:07The bumps that we have, like, we can sort it out.
00:03:12I'm just pleased, like, we're actually speaking.
00:03:15There's people in there not even speaking.
00:03:17I know.
00:03:20I pulled it over.
00:03:31I do feel like me and Adam still have some things to resolve.
00:03:33I shouldn't have said I'd twist with Stephen on the retreat.
00:03:37I hold my hands up, I f*** up,
00:03:39but he isn't understanding my point
00:03:42and why I said the comment that I made.
00:03:45Unfortunately, I feel like the Stephen comment,
00:03:49it was a step back, wasn't it?
00:03:50Like, it felt like a bit of a kick in the teeth,
00:03:52you know what I mean?
00:03:53Yeah, but there's been stuff that you've said
00:03:55that's been a huge kick in the teeth for me.
00:03:58I was fuming, not going to lie.
00:04:00He disrespected me,
00:04:02made me look muggy in front of all the other girls.
00:04:04I have done one thing, one,
00:04:07whereas you've done multiple little things.
00:04:11I know, and that's what was annoying me at the dinner party,
00:04:13because the things I've done,
00:04:14we've kind of got past and got over.
00:04:17So, at a dinner table, for you to be saying to me,
00:04:20but you did this, you did that, it felt like it was a...
00:04:22I wouldn't say that's fair to say.
00:04:23I wouldn't say that they have been gotten over.
00:04:24We're just going to argue if we keep talking about it.
00:04:26I think we just need to forget it.
00:04:31I don't really know where me and Polly stand at the moment.
00:04:34Going into the commitment ceremony,
00:04:36I've got a really hard decision to make.
00:04:39We're kind of just waiting for me to either get over this comment
00:04:42or move on.
00:04:48We've had a pretty good week.
00:04:49We've had a really good week. Best week we've had in ages.
00:04:52We've had a snog.
00:04:54We've, you know, tested the waters there.
00:04:57It was almost like you went,
00:04:59I'm leaning in, it's got to be everything all at once.
00:05:01For me, it moved really quickly in a week.
00:05:05And... Sorry!
00:05:09I think the retreat's been really good for Emma and I,
00:05:11but you look at other couples in the process
00:05:14and they're falling in love and they've got really strong relationships.
00:05:17So, we know we've made progress, but have we made enough progress?
00:05:22I'm not sure is the answer.
00:05:28I felt like the retreat would be for us to go and, like,
00:05:30listen to the birds chirping, go for walks.
00:05:32We did none of that. All we did, I felt, I felt,
00:05:34was we sat, consoled Hannah with her tantrums and, you know, her issues.
00:05:39And, oh, this and oh, Stephen, that, Stephen, just get on with it.
00:05:42Like, she drained me. I'm sorry, but Hannah drained me.
00:05:45She sucked the fun out of me.
00:05:47From the morning till the evening, till the good night.
00:05:50I can feel that you're stressed. Yeah.
00:06:04So, we moved back into the apartments.
00:06:06Obviously, Stephen isn't here. He doesn't even have any of his stuff here.
00:06:08He hasn't spent a night in the apartment.
00:06:13In my heart, I'm like, come on, let's just try. We've got this.
00:06:16I don't feel like I've had the opportunity to be a wife.
00:06:21I still care about the boy.
00:06:22I don't just wake up and not give a crap about someone.
00:06:25There is still some care there.
00:06:27I loved the guy I married.
00:06:29And I am gutted.
00:06:31I have tried and tried and tried from day one.
00:06:33I've kept my ring on.
00:06:35I've told everyone I've still got a husband.
00:06:37I'm proud of how I've held my own.
00:06:39I'm proud. Oh!
00:06:43I can't run my make-up. I'm going to the thing.
00:06:46I'm proud of myself. I'm proud of how I've held myself.
00:06:49And I've tried my best.
00:06:51And sometimes you take a risk and it doesn't pay off.
00:06:55And...
00:06:57..I tried. And that's all you can do.
00:07:02Fuck.
00:07:03Fuck.
00:07:12That Steven is here for the wrong reason.
00:07:15I just wish you could have seen my reaction when Harley told me.
00:07:18The minute we have a tiff, he's trying to jump in.
00:07:21Embarrassing, isn't it? Embarrassing.
00:07:23Like, he's shown himself up massively.
00:07:25He blatantly lied.
00:07:27Do you know what? I've kept my cool with him.
00:07:30But this man thinks he's better than what he is.
00:07:32I do not understand where he thought
00:07:36he was going to ever shoot a shot with me.
00:07:38Like, I'd have shot him right back down and you know that.
00:07:47I have a few things to get off my chest today
00:07:49at the commitment ceremony.
00:07:51I do know that something went down at the retreat
00:07:53between Orson and Hannah.
00:07:54He literally wants to stay in the process by any means necessary.
00:07:59I thought he had a little bit more shame than this.
00:08:03But clearly he doesn't, so he's shown himself.
00:08:07I've lost so many brain cells since being married to Orson.
00:08:10I'm actually a little bit embarrassed that I married him.
00:08:14I actually pity him a little bit.
00:08:17Pity the fool.
00:08:18I have no idea if Rochelle is going to turn up today.
00:08:22She didn't turn up for the dinner party,
00:08:23she didn't turn up for the mixer,
00:08:25she didn't turn up for this relationship.
00:08:29But there's rumours knocking about
00:08:31and I would want Rochelle to come and sit and say her piece.
00:08:36I think she's going to turn up.
00:08:38I've got to say it.
00:08:39She's going to turn up.
00:08:41She's going to turn up.
00:08:42I've got to say it.
00:08:44She's going to turn up.
00:08:45She's going to turn up.
00:08:46to come and sit and say her peace because I'm ready for her.
00:09:17Welcome everyone to your fourth commitment ceremony.
00:09:22Look at the person next to you.
00:09:26And think about what they're giving you and you're giving them.
00:09:32Today, we want you to lay it all out on the table.
00:09:39No secrets, no shame.
00:09:45Now with that in mind, let's begin.
00:09:50First up on the couch today is Holly and Alex.
00:10:03Hello.
00:10:04And quite the different couple sitting on the couch.
00:10:08We did a free sex there.
00:10:10Wow, you did?
00:10:12Holly, one of the things we talked about with you was
00:10:16addressing those issues as they come up in the moment
00:10:19rather than allowing them to percolate.
00:10:21How's that been going for you this week?
00:10:23A lot better.
00:10:24Right.
00:10:25I felt the only way we could progress is if I let him in
00:10:29the things I struggle with and my triggers and my traumas.
00:10:31And he was like, I get it.
00:10:34And he just tells me and was like, I got you, it's okay, let it out.
00:10:38And thank God I bloody did.
00:10:41He understood.
00:10:43And the next day I woke up and I thought I could go and run a marathon.
00:10:46That feels so light.
00:10:48It's just an amazing feeling just to know that, like,
00:10:52she's finally seeing who I actually am.
00:10:54You can talk to me.
00:10:56And you tried it and it worked.
00:10:59Good work.
00:11:01Wow, so how has this conversation changed your relationship?
00:11:06We're just so much more calmer around each other, more relaxed.
00:11:10I feel like everyone else is more relaxed around us.
00:11:12They're not sat there like, are they going to blow?
00:11:15Like, everyone just seems so much more chill around us.
00:11:18I'm glad that we've had the tiffs and the arguments that we've had
00:11:21because when we come back, we come back 20 times more stronger than before.
00:11:26Where to next?
00:11:27What do you need in order to deepen this relationship even further?
00:11:31Just continue doing what we're doing.
00:11:33Yeah.
00:11:34Because everything else is fine.
00:11:39Are you telling Charlene not to ask?
00:11:43I feel like we've put the puzzle together.
00:11:46It's just making sure it stays in place.
00:11:49Wonderful.
00:11:50Well, why don't we go to a decision?
00:11:52Yeah.
00:11:53Holly, you first.
00:11:55I feel like a weight's lifted off my shoulders.
00:11:58I feel like we make a good team as well.
00:12:00You're daft.
00:12:02You make me feel stunning.
00:12:04Aww.
00:12:05And you make the best cups of tea ever.
00:12:08So, for that reason, my darling, I'm going to stay.
00:12:12Yeah.
00:12:17Over to you, big man.
00:12:18Yeah, I'm just enjoying getting to know Holly more
00:12:21and spending time with each other.
00:12:23We just have the best time
00:12:25and there's no reason why she shouldn't be a million percent confident
00:12:29in who she is because everybody loves her, you know,
00:12:32and she's a great girl.
00:12:34Oh, Alex.
00:12:35So, no-brainer.
00:12:37Stay.
00:12:43Well, you two are an amazing example
00:12:46of what happens when a couple does the work.
00:12:48Yeah.
00:12:49You're doing it.
00:12:50Don't give up, guys.
00:12:52Don't give up.
00:12:53It's a great message to everyone else.
00:12:55We're really proud of you.
00:12:56Thank you so much.
00:12:57Keep it up.
00:12:58Well done.
00:12:59Well done, guys.
00:13:00Well done.
00:13:05All right, next up, if we could have Ryan and Shannon.
00:13:09Come on up.
00:13:14Hi, guys.
00:13:15Welcome.
00:13:16Good to see both of you.
00:13:18Second commitment ceremony.
00:13:20Yes.
00:13:21We're here.
00:13:22Yes, you were here together.
00:13:24How's the week been for you both?
00:13:26It was an interesting week.
00:13:28We had our first little argument.
00:13:31OK, first argument.
00:13:32Yeah.
00:13:33Unpack it for us.
00:13:34It was, like, a big misunderstanding, honestly.
00:13:37Ryan said something that kind of threw me back to one of my exes.
00:13:42You'd kind of said you were done.
00:13:44I took that as done completely,
00:13:46but he meant done with the conversation.
00:13:48I'm sort of done with it, like, I've gone back to sleep,
00:13:51waking up, and Shannon's not there.
00:13:53And afterwards, we've just said, like,
00:13:55wow, that was just a mountain was made out of a molehill.
00:13:58This one misunderstanding, Shannon, you take,
00:14:02and react extremely to it.
00:14:05I just panicked.
00:14:07We all, all react to fight or flight.
00:14:11Any time we feel under threat, what do we want to do?
00:14:14Fight or we want to flee?
00:14:16You chose flight.
00:14:18Instead of taking a pause, sleeping on it,
00:14:21waking up the next morning, resolving it.
00:14:24I'm terrible at that.
00:14:25OK, but now you know.
00:14:27Now I know.
00:14:28Right, now you know.
00:14:29OK, so now, as the dinner party progressed,
00:14:33Ryan, you looked agitated, and you looked worked up.
00:14:39Can you elaborate as to why?
00:14:44Holly came over to me and said, Stephen had said,
00:14:47if Ryan doesn't come to the dinner party,
00:14:50he's going to shoot his shot.
00:14:53So now I couldn't trust you with my wife.
00:14:56So, Holly, when did you hear Stephen say this?
00:14:59So, before Ryan had come into the mixer,
00:15:02Stephen had shouted me over to him, and he said,
00:15:06so obviously you know Shannon's my type.
00:15:12If Ryan doesn't come to the mixer tonight,
00:15:14then I'm going to stick it on Shannon.
00:15:18I would never use the word stick it on,
00:15:20cos it's not what I use anyway.
00:15:22You was going to try it on her, though, yeah?
00:15:27Come on, was you going to try it?
00:15:29You've got to let me answer.
00:15:31I would not have done that without speaking to you,
00:15:34and I've said that.
00:15:35A blatant lie.
00:15:39You're a sly guy.
00:15:56So if Shannon was interested...
00:16:00..you would have attempted something.
00:16:03I'd have spoken to you as much as you think I would have done.
00:16:06Come on, come on. You're the slyest guy I've met.
00:16:08And I'm saying it. Slyest guy I've ever met.
00:16:11I would have spoken to you. Of course you would.
00:16:18You're laughable, lad.
00:16:20I feel for that girl because you've been grilling her
00:16:23all this experiment, and you have done exactly the same.
00:16:26Do you have anything to say to my machine?
00:16:28I don't live far off. Let's leave it.
00:16:31I'm good. You keep it to yourself, mate.
00:16:33You keep your distance from me, I'll keep your distance,
00:16:35and we'll respect that.
00:16:45All right. So now, back to you two, all right?
00:16:49You had your misunderstanding this week, OK?
00:16:52You had all this happening in the group.
00:16:54But do you feel like there's been progress this week?
00:16:57It's made me stronger, this.
00:16:58It's been great, hasn't it?
00:17:00I've been speaking a bit more to Manchester.
00:17:02Have you? Yeah. All right, this is good.
00:17:04As long as I get a puppy.
00:17:08This is big.
00:17:09So you've already resolved the distance challenge?
00:17:12Yes, that's done. Wow. It's done.
00:17:15This is good.
00:17:19OK, so now, let's go to a decision, then.
00:17:21Do you want me to go first, Paul? You want to go first?
00:17:25You've already started, go.
00:17:28So, this decision is very easy.
00:17:30Listen, I didn't expect this when I came here.
00:17:32I'm not the one to hit it off straight away.
00:17:35And I said to her one day, I said, where have you been all my life?
00:17:38And this decision is absolutely, like, very, very easy,
00:17:42and it's stay.
00:17:45Thanks.
00:17:47OK. OK.
00:17:49OK.
00:17:50Shannon, hit us.
00:17:52Ryan has made me feel so comfortable,
00:17:54probably more comfortable than any man has ever made me feel.
00:17:58Which is big.
00:17:59And you've made me this sloppy mess
00:18:01that I don't know what the fuck's happened to me.
00:18:04So, obviously, I'm going to stay.
00:18:06All right.
00:18:09All right.
00:18:13Have a great week.
00:18:14Thank you, man. Thank you, Paul. Thank you, Charlie.
00:18:17Thank you very much.
00:18:27Next up on the couch...
00:18:30..Amy and Luke.
00:18:37Hey, guys.
00:18:39Hello.
00:18:40How are you both?
00:18:42Yeah, OK.
00:18:43Yeah, you both doing well?
00:18:46We've been very busy at the retreat, haven't we?
00:18:49Yeah.
00:18:50Sort of involved with all the drama.
00:18:54We felt like it was bringing us together
00:18:56because we were both, like, helping the situation together,
00:18:59but since coming back to the apartments,
00:19:01we just feel like we're, like...
00:19:05I felt like, yeah, the retreat was supposed to be
00:19:07kind of a relaxing time.
00:19:09But, you know, Amy, bless her, she was, like, 24-7 babysitting.
00:19:14Which was good because I saw really good signs in Amy,
00:19:16like, she's such an angel.
00:19:17But I felt like I was the nurse and the patient
00:19:19and I felt like the janitor, you know, clearing up after.
00:19:25We were supporting her.
00:19:26I know we were supporting, but look what it's done to us.
00:19:29It wasn't very relaxing and... Yeah.
00:19:31..you know, a few bits happened at the retreat
00:19:33that have affected us, I would say, affected me definitely.
00:19:37What happened was, I came back from a lads' day
00:19:40and I found out that Amy picked Nathan as the sexiest husband.
00:19:43She sat here last week saying I was a 12 out of 10
00:19:46and now she's saying she finds Nathan as the sexiest,
00:19:49when she could have said me.
00:19:50So what's Nathan, 24 out of 10?
00:19:52Like, what's this, FIFA cards and numbers keep getting bigger?
00:19:55That's crazy.
00:19:57You can appreciate that other people are attractive.
00:20:00Does that mean I can't have any friends with penises?
00:20:03No, it's not that.
00:20:04I'm just saying that's, you know, that's how it affected me.
00:20:07Is it because he's got that fancy jacket and fashion?
00:20:09Right, so it kind of brings out an insecurity. Yeah.
00:20:12Would you say that it made you experience this situation
00:20:16in a jealous way?
00:20:18Potentially, yeah. I do. OK.
00:20:20And I feel a bit guilty for it.
00:20:22In my opinion, you are the most beautiful girl in this group,
00:20:25which is hence why I chose you.
00:20:27It was doubly painful for me.
00:20:30It was just a game.
00:20:32Fair enough.
00:20:33I can see that it really hurt you.
00:20:35I think it might be worth you just reflecting away from this space
00:20:40about this conversation,
00:20:42and maybe you need some reassurance that, actually,
00:20:45you're her number one.
00:20:47I think that's how the two of you can really move forward here.
00:20:51But let's look at the dinner party,
00:20:53because one thing that I noticed
00:20:55was that there was quite a lot of affection between the two of you.
00:20:59Intimacy, would you say, is quite good?
00:21:01Yeah, great. Yeah.
00:21:02Is that to say that the intimacy is at another level?
00:21:10Maybe.
00:21:11It was well-earned.
00:21:13I made love to my woman, not...
00:21:17..not just had sex, but I made love.
00:21:20It felt very good. OK, OK, OK.
00:21:23I mean, we're being honest, I'm not saying anything.
00:21:25It was worth the wait.
00:21:27I appreciate your honesty,
00:21:30On that note, let's go to decisions.
00:21:33Amy, would you like to go first?
00:21:35Um, so...
00:21:38We're still very early in our journey,
00:21:41and I do believe we can both work on things.
00:21:45So I've decided to stay.
00:21:48CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
00:21:53And Luke, what's your decision?
00:21:55This whole process is about learning, isn't it?
00:21:57And things come in life to test us, I think,
00:22:01and, you know, with Amy by my side,
00:22:03I feel ready to take that test.
00:22:05And I want to continue, I want to work hard for it,
00:22:08you know, despite all those insecurities that I have.
00:22:10And I think you will bring the best out of me, Amy,
00:22:12so despite all that, I'm staying.
00:22:15CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
00:22:20I think my advice would be,
00:22:23I think my advice for you guys this week is,
00:22:26press the reset button, have some fun together,
00:22:30and enjoy the rest of your week.
00:22:32Thank you. Thank you.
00:22:42Next up to the couch, can we have Polly and Adam.
00:22:46Come on up.
00:22:48APPLAUSE
00:22:52Hello. Hey, guys.
00:22:54How are you both?
00:22:56Yeah, we're not bad, thank you.
00:22:58All right, good. It's good to see you both.
00:23:00All right, so now we're looking forward to hearing about the retreat.
00:23:03So let's get into it. What happened?
00:23:05Bit of an argument.
00:23:08So it was on the girls' day.
00:23:12Polly said that she would twist to another husband
00:23:15because he's more emotionally available
00:23:17and talks about his feelings.
00:23:19So I was shocked, upset, disrespected,
00:23:23and it just wasn't a nice feeling.
00:23:25Interesting.
00:23:26Because I thought I was making so much effort
00:23:29and coming out of my comfort zone,
00:23:31and I felt like we was going in the right direction
00:23:34and getting better, to then hear that,
00:23:36it was kind of like a kick in the teeth.
00:23:38Interesting. All right, now, who did Polly say
00:23:42that she would twist with?
00:23:44Stephen, my good friend.
00:23:47I think one of the comments when she told me was,
00:23:50he's gave me more emotional conversations than you have,
00:23:54and I was like, I've been here three weeks, not three days.
00:23:57Wow.
00:23:58So it's just another shock for me to hear.
00:24:00Right. So, Polly, I have to go to you.
00:24:02Why did you say you would twist with Stephen?
00:24:06Because of the qualities that Stephen has that I wish Adam had.
00:24:13And what are those qualities?
00:24:15Emotional availability.
00:24:18Voicing how he thinks and how he feels to other people
00:24:21without feeling ashamed.
00:24:23Being secure in himself.
00:24:25To be able to just say it.
00:24:28So I don't feel like he shows me that he cares about me enough.
00:24:32I felt like I'd come out of my comfort zone complete
00:24:36and I was trying to get us to the best place we could be,
00:24:39and then that was, like, hurtful, you know what I mean?
00:24:42I think that's obviously made Polly realise
00:24:44that obviously I do care because it's hurt me, so...
00:24:47But it shouldn't have had to have taken me saying,
00:24:49I want qualities in someone else,
00:24:51for you to show and tell me how you feel about me.
00:24:53I mean, he's never said that I'm sexy or I'm beautiful
00:24:56or I look gorgeous.
00:24:57I know, but I've been given a bit more affection,
00:24:59like the little kiss and stuff. I know sometimes I forget...
00:25:01On the cheek.
00:25:02Yeah, but I'm not a PDA person, you know what I mean?
00:25:04But it's even when we're at home.
00:25:06Even when you leave to go...
00:25:08I know, but that's because I've just had a first massive argument
00:25:11and I've felt betrayed.
00:25:13And I've said to you, the last thing I'm going to do now
00:25:15is want to give you a kiss when my head's been scrambled.
00:25:18But that's not fair when it's taken us so long
00:25:20to get to where we are on that front.
00:25:22Of course, I know it's not fair, but...
00:25:23Now I feel like I'm being punished for one comment I've made
00:25:25after the fucking ten that you've made.
00:25:27To me, it was a big comment. It wasn't just a jokey comment.
00:25:30It was a massive comment to where everyone else
00:25:32couldn't believe it.
00:25:36You have to understand what I've had to sit and listen to
00:25:39and deal with that I've taken on board and understood.
00:25:42I have not thrown anything in your face...
00:25:44No, I get that, but it's more...
00:25:46..that you've said, so for you to react how you did was unfair.
00:25:51You still haven't given a lot.
00:25:53I know that you feel like you have, but you haven't.
00:25:59I do obviously see a future with me and Adam
00:26:01and I do genuinely believe that it can get there.
00:26:03But at the moment, I'm just seeing the potential.
00:26:07And it's like, is this just another fucking relationship
00:26:10at nearly 30 years old?
00:26:11So here's the thing, the worst thing in the world
00:26:13is falling in love with potential.
00:26:16So if your objective is what you think Adam will be in the future,
00:26:21you might as well leave today.
00:26:29So go to the decision.
00:26:38The worst thing in the world is falling in love with potential.
00:26:41So if your objective is what you think Adam will be in the future,
00:26:46you might as well leave today.
00:26:55So go to the decision.
00:27:02The worst thing in the world is falling in love with potential.
00:27:06The conflict that we had maybe shouldn't have happened how it did,
00:27:10and I apologise for that.
00:27:12But I feel like I am more affirmed in certain ways
00:27:16by Adam and his reaction.
00:27:19So I put stay.
00:27:26Adam.
00:27:29I did have a feeling that did she say that to make me think,
00:27:33oh, I'm jealous, I'm going to try harder.
00:27:36But me personally, a comment like that more would hurt me
00:27:39and make me retract.
00:27:41I'm sorry if I can't give you what you want right now,
00:27:44but there is two of us here and there's two people's feelings.
00:27:50And I know you want something, but then I need things as well.
00:27:58But...
00:28:01There's definitely feelings there,
00:28:03otherwise that comment wouldn't have bothered me,
00:28:05I'd just been like, whatever.
00:28:08So I put stay.
00:28:16All right. We'll see you back in this week, all right?
00:28:19Thank you so much. Thank you.
00:28:21Thank you. Good job.
00:28:29Oh!
00:28:34Next up on the couch...
00:28:38...Hannah and Steven.
00:28:40APPLAUSE
00:28:45OK. Hello.
00:28:47Hello. Hello.
00:28:49Where I'd like to begin is where we last saw you,
00:28:52and that was right here on this couch.
00:28:55Hannah, you wrote stay. Mm-hm.
00:28:58Steven, you wrote leave,
00:29:00but you agreed to continue to work on your marriage.
00:29:04Do you believe you did? No.
00:29:06Why?
00:29:08Because after I'm off to meet Orson with a few other boys,
00:29:11she just goes, Orson, why did you hold my hand?
00:29:14To make him jealous.
00:29:16So the respect thing then just disappeared straight away,
00:29:19so our walls went straight up.
00:29:21So let's just figure this out right now.
00:29:24Hannah, were you trying to make Steven jealous?
00:29:27You can't make a guy jealous of you that doesn't give a fuck about you,
00:29:30so that's not what that was.
00:29:32It was just a bit of banter for someone trying to make me smile
00:29:34and trying to make me have a bit of a giggle.
00:29:38He didn't say one word to me after the commitment ceremony.
00:29:40He avoided me like the plague. He couldn't look at me.
00:29:43I don't feel like you can sit here and say,
00:29:45that's the reason why you weren't trying,
00:29:47is because me and Orson had some banter,
00:29:49cos you'd checked out way before that.
00:29:54All right, so now you're at the retreat.
00:29:57Did you stay together at the retreat? No.
00:29:59We had an argument as soon as we moved into the lodge.
00:30:02You both had an argument? I wouldn't call it an argument.
00:30:05I'd call it an ambush and then I'd leave the room.
00:30:07OK. Cos that's what he does.
00:30:09This whole me and Orson having banter situation,
00:30:13you held on to it, held on to it, didn't speak to me,
00:30:16stewed on it, then waiting until we were in a room together,
00:30:19dropped a bomb on me,
00:30:21waited for me to react, cos I do,
00:30:23and then you're like, see, that's why I don't really like you,
00:30:26and then you darted out of the room. OK, well...
00:30:28That's so toxic. What was the bomb that was dropped?
00:30:31That me and Orson were pissing around and having banter
00:30:33and pretending to hold hands. OK.
00:30:37I said I'll try at the retreat,
00:30:38and I was trying to get into that headspace,
00:30:40but there was all this kind of stuff going on
00:30:43with Hannah and the girls or whatever.
00:30:45I was kind of just listening to it all,
00:30:47and all I'm hearing is she's trying it with everyone's husbands.
00:30:50It's just making me completely check out even more.
00:30:53I'm like, why do I want to even speak to this girl? Right.
00:30:56So let me ask the group this.
00:30:58This kind of notion of Hannah trying it with different guys,
00:31:02that seems to keep coming up.
00:31:04And clearly that had a lot of impact on you,
00:31:07especially the girls' day.
00:31:09So were you feeling that? Yeah.
00:31:11OK.
00:31:12Me and Hannah discussed it,
00:31:14but it felt like she was, like, very flirty with Ryan.
00:31:18I was just very vocal in saying to Hannah
00:31:20that I don't like how she's gone about things,
00:31:23I don't like what she's said to certain people,
00:31:25when we've all made her feel so welcome.
00:31:28And I called a spade a spade.
00:31:31She deserved to know, so I told her.
00:31:33And then she started getting lippy to someone else.
00:31:36Just didn't sit well with me.
00:31:38Right. I mean, this is interesting for us to know,
00:31:41because that was happening, Hannah.
00:31:43But at the same time, Stephen,
00:31:45the whole, you know, you shooting your shot with Shannon,
00:31:49that's playing out too.
00:31:53It's ironic, don't you think?
00:31:55Yeah, of course. Ironic, yeah.
00:31:57Yeah.
00:31:58Do you think that these rumours about Hannah and the guys,
00:32:02did that influence your behaviour whatsoever with Hannah?
00:32:09It probably did influence it, yeah.
00:32:12I don't see boys and girls differently.
00:32:14So if I have, like, banter with one of the boys,
00:32:17I don't see that as, like, oh, that's a boy.
00:32:19So I should be careful how I speak to them over a girl.
00:32:26OK, so, Hannah, what are you thinking at this point?
00:32:29Are you thinking, I want to try to make this work still,
00:32:32I don't want to make this work? What's your thought?
00:32:38It's still, in the back of my brain, was like,
00:32:41I'm here for a marriage, like...
00:32:43There is probably things we can work on.
00:32:45Yes, I was like, every single time we have an argument,
00:32:48I check out, like, more and more and more and more,
00:32:50but I still wasn't finished.
00:32:51OK, so you were still in it? Yeah.
00:32:55The best-case scenario for me was, can we squash it?
00:33:01We've had this experience,
00:33:02let's remember that we actually had a really good start,
00:33:05and I wanted to say thank you for how he made me feel
00:33:08on the wedding day, cos I felt incredible.
00:33:11Hearing that, what are you thinking?
00:33:14Does it change anything?
00:33:18I will never deny the fact our wedding day was special.
00:33:24But...no.
00:33:30A lot has been said about two from both of you tonight.
00:33:36So, let's go to a decision.
00:33:39Stephen, would you like to go first?
00:33:45Last week, before I put leave, I was still in the mindset of,
00:33:49I don't think I can be the man you need.
00:33:55But my mindset is very much now, I don't want to be your man.
00:34:02I don't think you're in it for me,
00:34:04I don't think you're in it for me,
00:34:05I think you're in it for a pro...
00:34:06I don't know what the reasons are and why you're here.
00:34:10So, for those reasons, I'm going to leave.
00:34:13OK. OK. Thank you.
00:34:19Hannah?
00:34:20Erm...
00:34:21SHE SIGHS
00:34:30I think this is probably my opportunity to...
00:34:35..try and leave this process as amicably as I can with everybody.
00:34:43As much as whatever's happened's happened,
00:34:46I do think deep down you are a good guy
00:34:48and I do think you'll make someone happy.
00:34:52It's meant to be about marriage...
00:34:55..and ours hasn't worked, so...
00:34:58..I am going to leave.
00:35:04OK. All right.
00:35:08Thank you for your vulnerability here on the couch.
00:35:11We want to thank you for your participation
00:35:13and we truly wish you the best in your future relationships.
00:35:16Thanks, guys. Thank you. Thanks, guys.
00:35:18APPLAUSE
00:35:35Oh, that was bloody hot.
00:35:38I'm not going to get worse than that, am I?
00:35:44Next up on the couch, can we have...
00:35:46..Kieran and Christina.
00:35:48CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
00:35:50Oh, my God.
00:35:53Hello, hello, hello. Hello!
00:35:55Hello! Welcome.
00:35:59So, how was the retreat, you two?
00:36:01Erm, full of drama.
00:36:03But it was good.
00:36:05We had one day where...
00:36:07..it was a little bit questionable, on my behalf.
00:36:10What happened there for you?
00:36:12It just got in my head.
00:36:15PMDD hit and it was just a little bit tough.
00:36:20I'm going to get a mouse.
00:36:22It's OK. You're OK.
00:36:23You're OK.
00:36:26It's just, like, the worst feeling ever
00:36:28and you just, no matter how much you try and fight it,
00:36:31like, when you are in that moment, like, it just feels...
00:36:36It just feels really just dark and horrible and...
00:36:42I think what makes it worse almost for me
00:36:45is because I know, like, how it affects Kieran.
00:36:51But I just don't want it to, like, just push you away.
00:36:56That's what I'm scared of.
00:36:59I'm more careful about what I say and what I do when PMDD's here.
00:37:04Because you don't know what it's going to be,
00:37:06that's going to be the set-off.
00:37:08But it's horrible seeing Christina like that
00:37:10and I think I can really... I really empathise with you, don't I?
00:37:13I've cried with Christina quite a lot
00:37:15when I can see how emotional she's getting.
00:37:18You know, we haven't got that intimate connection at the moment.
00:37:22Even though, obviously, we are like this
00:37:24because that's all we, like, can do and I am just feeling rejected.
00:37:27OK.
00:37:30And just so I'm clear, you're talking about the cold sore?
00:37:33Yeah. Is that right? I've just nearly, nearly gone.
00:37:35OK, good.
00:37:37I just want to feel wanted by you.
00:37:40It's not just about sex, but it's been since the honeymoon, man.
00:37:45I've done it once since the honeymoon. All right.
00:37:49I think I've distanced myself intimacy-wise
00:37:53because I don't want to get excited and I don't want to wind her up.
00:37:57You know, it's just like we're friends living together again.
00:38:00Like, I know you've taken a step back.
00:38:03I wouldn't say I've taken a step back.
00:38:05You just said you had. You've distanced.
00:38:08I've distanced, but I wouldn't say I've took a step back.
00:38:12I just would love to ask you, Kieran,
00:38:15and really ask you to be really honest with yourself here.
00:38:19Would you say you've been holding back on the physical affection
00:38:23just because of the cold sore?
00:38:26Or has it also been because of Christina's reaction during the PMDD?
00:38:33Um...
00:38:35Yeah, it's a mix of both. It's not...
00:38:37I can't blame it all on the cold sore. I can't.
00:38:39And I'm not going to do that.
00:38:41So, if you're being real,
00:38:43what is it that you'd like to say to Christina at the moment?
00:38:47Um...
00:38:49Don't hold back. No, I'm not. Let us get me words, though.
00:38:52Yeah, take your time.
00:38:58And this is going to be hard to hear.
00:39:00I think it's something you've probably heard before
00:39:02and I really don't want to be the guy that says it.
00:39:04But...
00:39:07I'm really questioning it at the minute.
00:39:09Um...
00:39:15..if I'm able to sustain a relationship...
00:39:20..with someone that suffers with PMDD.
00:39:40Up, up, love, we go high
00:39:44In the sky we can fly
00:39:48Up, up, love, don't say bye
00:39:52In this moment, you and I
00:39:56Electric hearts around
00:39:59We fall off the ground
00:40:01Lose the world around
00:40:03That's the only song
00:40:06Passing our hearts
00:40:08Chasing after hearts
00:40:13Lost in all the skies
00:40:16No more goodbyes
00:40:21Lost in all the skies
00:40:24No more goodbyes
00:40:28Up, up, love, we go high
00:40:32In the sky we can fly
00:40:35Up, up, love, don't say...
00:40:44I'm really questioning it at the minute.
00:40:47Um...
00:40:53..if I'm able to sustain a relationship...
00:40:58..with someone that suffers with PMDD.
00:41:06I know, Kieran, which is why I've, like, said to you from day one,
00:41:11like, whatever you say to me is, like, nothing.
00:41:16I haven't hurt people.
00:41:24It's fine, like, it's fine.
00:41:28But...
00:41:29Christina, it's not fine.
00:41:32This is not fine for you.
00:41:34No, but, like, I understand.
00:41:36Like, I understand and, like, respect Kieran's feelings in this.
00:41:42But what about your feelings?
00:41:44Well, it's fucking shit. Right. Yeah.
00:41:46Yeah. It is.
00:41:55This is why I prepare myself for the worst in every situation
00:42:00and I live in the moment for every good bit that I have.
00:42:07I'm not saying that I don't want to be with you, cos I do.
00:42:09I want to give this as much as I can. Yeah, but you're not...
00:42:11You're just not... I've got questions.
00:42:13I think everyone in this room's got questions about their relationship,
00:42:16but I'm not saying I don't want to be with you.
00:42:18That's not what I'm saying here.
00:42:20Right, now all I've got in my head is if you can't,
00:42:22if you're going to struggle, it's going to be a struggle for life
00:42:25cos I can't change.
00:42:27But that's something that I'm working out whether I can.
00:42:37I just don't want to get hurt.
00:42:43Everything takes work and I'm prepared to work at it, Christina.
00:42:48And I'll work at it until there's no bones left.
00:42:52Kieran, good on you for being so incredibly honest just now.
00:42:57Yeah, thank you. I know that was very hard for you to say.
00:43:00I also know that this is not you signalling to Christina,
00:43:04I want out. No, it's not. I know that.
00:43:07It might have felt a little bit that way in the moment. Yeah, it does.
00:43:10But I think the fact that you're both sitting here right now,
00:43:13opening up the way that you are,
00:43:15showing such incredible care and understanding
00:43:18for each other is such a strong sign
00:43:21that you have incredible potential as a couple.
00:43:27How about we go to the decision? Oh, no, I'm scared now.
00:43:30Christina, why don't you go first?
00:43:35I know I'm the biggest pain in your bum.
00:43:38I know that I am hard work.
00:43:41But I'm looking forward to seeing what's more to come.
00:43:45I'm looking forward to seeing what's more to come.
00:43:47There's still so much I want to explore with you,
00:43:50so for that reason...
00:43:52I'm staying.
00:43:58And Kieran.
00:44:00This week you've shown us that you are there for us,
00:44:03even when I think no-one can be there for us.
00:44:06And you've allowed us to open up in ways
00:44:08that I've never been able to open up in a relationship before,
00:44:11without being attacked.
00:44:13So I think that in itself speaks volumes
00:44:16about the person that you are, so thank you very much.
00:44:19And for that reason, I've wrote stay.
00:44:26Have a wonderful week. Thank you.
00:44:28Thank you very much, guys.
00:44:30Thanks, guys.
00:44:43Next up to the couch, Nathan and Lacey.
00:44:50Hello. Hi.
00:44:52Hi, guys.
00:44:54Lovely to see the two of you. Lovely to see you all.
00:44:57So...
00:44:59..tell me about the retreat. How was it for you?
00:45:02I had a great time, yeah. Did you have a good time?
00:45:05I was having a good time.
00:45:07Yeah, I just, um...
00:45:09I don't know.
00:45:11I think something's bothering me.
00:45:13He said the other day, um,
00:45:15I'm not going to say I love you.
00:45:17Like, I love you, not love you.
00:45:19I love you, until after the experiment
00:45:21to see if the distance worked.
00:45:24But that a little bit upset me,
00:45:26cos I was like, are you only giving me half, then?
00:45:30I don't want to, like, give her my heart fully.
00:45:33We finished the experiment and she's like,
00:45:35oh, the distance ain't working. It's like, what's the point of that?
00:45:38What you're doing is you're trying to hedge yourself.
00:45:41You're trying to make it safe, but that's not how love works.
00:45:44Love works as you dive fully into the pool.
00:45:47You can't toe-dip into love.
00:45:50Would either one of you consider relocating?
00:45:54I would in the middle. I need my mumma near me, not going to lie.
00:45:58I need my mumma there.
00:46:00I think if I can find the work,
00:46:02depending on circumstances, I could relocate, yeah.
00:46:06For me, I can definitely feel in love.
00:46:09I just feel like the word is different.
00:46:11Saying the word, you know?
00:46:14OK, so the word is of high importance to you.
00:46:18Yeah.
00:46:19But what I'm here to tell you is the action is of higher importance,
00:46:23and you're already exhibiting the action.
00:46:25You've just said you will move.
00:46:28Yeah, I'd like the word to be in, like, the right timing,
00:46:31you know what I mean? A special moment.
00:46:34So you're saying that you already love Lacey,
00:46:37but you're waiting for the moment to tell her that is important to you?
00:46:42Maybe.
00:46:44LAUGHTER
00:46:46So, Lacey, where would you say you are in terms of love?
00:46:52Yeah, no, I do feel it, like, yeah.
00:46:56Yeah.
00:46:59I think it's very clear to see that you guys are in a really good place.
00:47:03So let's go to a decision.
00:47:09Erm, what I wrote was easy, of course.
00:47:13You know, I can see that we are growing closer.
00:47:16You know, I'm really still happy with you, and that's why I've put stay.
00:47:20APPLAUSE
00:47:23Thank you, Lacey. And Nathan, what's your decision?
00:47:26So, obviously, you're going to take on board what you've said,
00:47:29and I feel the same way as Lacey, so I'm also going to stay.
00:47:32APPLAUSE
00:47:34OK, guys, so, a big well done for sharing how you feel today.
00:47:39OK? Have a good week.
00:47:52Next up on the couch...
00:47:56..Emma and Casper.
00:48:02Hello, my lovelies. Hello.
00:48:05So let's look at your week.
00:48:07Definitely we're having a far better week,
00:48:10in terms of just being around each other, laughing, being more comfortable.
00:48:15The first half of the treat for me was really good,
00:48:18but there was a slight change for me in the second half
00:48:22with Emma's behaviour.
00:48:24Oh.
00:48:26Emma was getting advice from the girls and everyone else,
00:48:29going, well, you've just got to sleep with him.
00:48:32If we get intimate, we're going to accelerate our relationship,
00:48:35and that's not how I go about things.
00:48:37I need the emotional side first
00:48:39before I get to the intimate side from someone,
00:48:42and we're still working on that, in my opinion.
00:48:45And Michelle gave me some advice to get a kiss.
00:48:48I thought, right, I'm going, I'm going, we're going in.
00:48:51So you did have a kiss. Yeah.
00:48:54And how would you describe that experience, Casper?
00:49:00I think it was just a very good kiss, I can tell you that much for free.
00:49:04So you enjoyed it? Yeah, it was a good kiss. Yeah.
00:49:07But there were comments made afterwards,
00:49:10after we'd just kissed, that were way too far forward
00:49:13and crossed lots of lines.
00:49:15She basically went, why don't you just write,
00:49:17stay and then we can shag for a week.
00:49:19That's the most romantic pitch I've ever heard,
00:49:21if I'm being completely honest.
00:49:23She scared him off.
00:49:26I think that was just me exploring things.
00:49:28You know, I'd had a few wines, I got a bit excited.
00:49:31It almost felt like sex was a sales pitch. Yeah.
00:49:34And that wasn't attractive for me.
00:49:38Casper writing leave in the last commitment ceremony,
00:49:42although I expected it,
00:49:44it built a fight in me
00:49:47to want to work on things.
00:49:52And I think what I meant to say was,
00:49:55I think there are things for us to explore when it comes to intimacy.
00:49:59Now I'm scared that Casper has ended this week
00:50:03the same headspace that he ended last weekend.
00:50:10I think it goes back to not putting pressure on yourself
00:50:13and doing things at a pace that feels right for you,
00:50:15but also remembering a kiss and sex,
00:50:18there's so many other ways that you can form
00:50:20intimate connections with your partner.
00:50:25OK, let's get to the decisions.
00:50:28Emma first.
00:50:31I'm proud of myself for listening
00:50:34and showing you that I can take on feedback
00:50:36and I want to learn and I want to develop.
00:50:39And I think there are definitely things to explore with us,
00:50:43but I hear you.
00:50:45I would like to, yeah, spend some more time together.
00:50:49Yay!
00:50:54Casper, what's your decision?
00:50:57I mean, honestly, I am denied.
00:51:03A few days ago, I was relieved to be away and gone,
00:51:08out and thinking, that's where my head's at.
00:51:12And so that felt really good when I wrote it, I'm not going to lie.
00:51:15You know, I let go of a lot of emotions.
00:51:18I'm reluctant to say staying,
00:51:20and then almost being, again, feel dragged along
00:51:22into something that I don't feel comfortable with.
00:51:26MedellÃn, Spain
00:51:38A few days ago, I was relieved
00:51:41to be away and gone
00:51:43out and thinking, that's where my head's at.
00:51:47And so that felt really good when I wrote it, I'm not going to lie.
00:51:50You know, I let go of a lot of emotions.
00:51:52I'm reluctant to say staying,
00:51:54and then almost be again feel dragged along into something that I don't feel comfortable with.
00:52:05But we're still building on this.
00:52:09Emma and I, you know, I think we deserve to keep having another shot at this for a little
00:52:14bit longer and see where we get to because we have made strides. So for me, I wrote snake.
00:52:24Thank you. Oh, thank God. We wish you all the very best. Thanks very much.
00:52:38Next up on the couch, Sasha and Ross.
00:52:47Hey guys. Hello. Hey guys.
00:52:50How was your time at the retreat? Was it nice to get away?
00:52:54No, I hated it. I just hate the countryside and being away from everything.
00:53:01I felt like it was a taste of hell. So I'm going to be a really good person from now on.
00:53:04Wow. Okay. And so apart from the physical discomfort, shall I say, was there anything
00:53:11else that made it like hell for you? Obviously, all the drama has affected
00:53:16like the girls a little bit. Like we're usually quite a happy family, but there has been some
00:53:21explosive arguments between the girls, which is really rare. But as a couple, it doesn't
00:53:27really affect us. Like when we're at the dinner parties, it's like we're sitting on the end
00:53:30and it all happens there. And we're in just like our little bubble.
00:53:34I'm a very argumentative person. So yeah, we're good.
00:53:40I just hate being away from like the girls. I was like, oh, I just can't wait to see my husband.
00:53:47Now we know that the two of you are choosing not to open up and share too much of the physical
00:53:51journey with us. And we respect that. But what's important for us to understand is,
00:53:56are the two of you talking about it? And do you feel
00:53:59that things are progressing in the right direction for you?
00:54:04Yes.
00:54:09Very concise. That's fair.
00:54:12The two of you have created a really safe, trusting environment.
00:54:16Yeah. You're going really well.
00:54:18100%.
00:54:20Well, on that note, let's go to the decision. Ross, over to you first.
00:54:27I love being with you every minute. And let's see what next week brings.
00:54:32Diatude. Stay. Always.
00:54:37Lovely.
00:54:38Well, that's how I was going to start Molly's speech.
00:54:40And we've learned a lot about each other. And I want to spend the rest of my life with you.
00:54:48And you already know that. So I wrote, stay always.
00:54:54Wonderful. Wonderful. And yes, that comment was not lost on us.
00:54:59I know, right?
00:55:00No, not at all.
00:55:01Nice little mic drop there from Sasha.
00:55:04Thank you so much.
00:55:10Next up on the couch, can we have
00:55:20Orson and Rochelle.
00:55:29Hello.
00:55:31Hello.
00:55:33So I understand it's been a tough week for the two of you.
00:55:38Yes, it has.
00:55:39Yeah.
00:55:39It has been.
00:55:41Yeah.
00:55:43Why don't we start with where we left off at the last commitment ceremony?
00:55:48So can we just go back a little bit to the commitment ceremony?
00:55:54I made it quite clear to him that I was ready to leave and I wanted to go back to work.
00:55:58And if I left, I could get home in time for my daughter's 21st birthday.
00:56:03But when I re-entered the process after I left the first time,
00:56:07I said, I'm not going to leave again until we're on the same page.
00:56:11Orson said that he wanted to stay another week, which to me was a bit surprising,
00:56:17because at this point I've been very open and honest with him.
00:56:19I basically told him, I don't think I'm attracted to you.
00:56:24I don't overly fancy you.
00:56:26Wow.
00:56:28Wow, wow, what?
00:56:29Continue, continue.
00:56:30Wow, wow, what?
00:56:31No, just continue.
00:56:32The truth. I know that you don't have a great relationship with the truth, Orson, so it's OK.
00:56:37So I said to him, I think you're quite selfish.
00:56:41You basically have locked me in for another week.
00:56:43You've dragged me along for your experience when you know there's nothing there.
00:56:48Then on the day of the retreat, that was my daughter's actual birthday,
00:56:53I was visibly upset.
00:56:56And Orson's making this big show of singing and enjoying himself.
00:57:02At this point now, I'm getting worked up.
00:57:04And I haven't even been able to wish my girl a happy birthday.
00:57:07And he's singing in my face.
00:57:11And at that moment, I knew I could not stand him.
00:57:16You couldn't stand me from before that.
00:57:18I can't stand the sight of him.
00:57:20You knew I couldn't stand you before.
00:57:22Why did you want to stay?
00:57:23You're the one that said you want to stay to work out what if we're matched.
00:57:26No, no, no, you are lying.
00:57:29You are lying.
00:57:30You are a stinking liar.
00:57:32You are a stinking liar, because I was the one who told you I wanted to leave.
00:57:36I was the one who told you that I wanted to get back for my daughter's birthday.
00:57:39So don't sit here and lie.
00:57:41All right.
00:57:41So your lies don't work with me, Orson.
00:57:47You finished?
00:57:48Can I speak now?
00:57:49Stop.
00:57:49If you can tell the truth, try and tell the truth.
00:57:51Okay, guys, it's very clear that things have completely broken down here.
00:58:00I'd like to hear from both of you
00:58:03where you believe the relationship is at right now.
00:58:07Orson, let's start with you.
00:58:09There is no relationship right now.
00:58:12Michelle?
00:58:13At the retreat, Orson and Hannah have been bonding.
00:58:20And they have had talks about recoupling.
00:58:29Oh, wow.
00:58:29Yeah, wow, indeed.
00:58:31Orson's bagged himself.
00:58:32He's finally found his queen.
00:58:37That reinforced that Orson isn't really here for the right reasons.
00:58:42He's even had a little bromance going on with Stephen.
00:58:46While behind Stephen's back, Orson and Hannah were, you know, talking amongst themselves.
00:58:56Which continued once we returned from the retreat.
00:58:59And I walked in last night and found Orson and Hannah.
00:59:04Holly and Alex almost like, you know, having a little double date set up.
00:59:13So all that did was reinforce...
00:59:17We weren't.
00:59:17We were all sat in separate chairs.
00:59:18Chill out, chill with that business.
00:59:20That's not true.
00:59:21Chill with that business, Michelle.
00:59:22Orson, Hannah, Hannah, Zippy.
00:59:24Exactly.
00:59:24I need to shut up.
00:59:26Michelle, don't do that.
00:59:28Michelle, don't do that.
00:59:29No, I think it's bullshit because them two have lips.
00:59:37They've what?
00:59:38Kissed.
00:59:39They've kissed, him and Hannah.
00:59:40Oh, you've kissed?
00:59:41Him and Hannah.
00:59:42The very last night of the retreat.
00:59:44You've been kissing him?
01:00:00So why the fuck are you trying to defend when they've been...
01:00:02That's wrong!
01:00:02Who you talking about?
01:00:09C'mon.
01:00:12Is it my fault?
01:00:13No.
01:00:14What?
01:00:15Is it my fault?
01:00:15No, I didn't do anything wrong.
01:00:16What is it?
01:00:17I didn't do anything wrong, no.
01:00:19Oh, you didn't do anything wrong.
01:00:21You didn't do anything wrong.
01:00:23No, I didn't.
01:00:24And I didn't do anything wrong.
01:00:26I didn't even go into her room.
01:00:28Fucking snake, man. Snake, you.
01:00:31Me? Yeah, you.
01:00:33Where was the double date?
01:00:34I didn't say about the double date.
01:00:36How have they not been sneakily kissing?
01:00:38I know you didn't be. So fix him.
01:00:39I'll tell him. Sort him out.
01:00:41Don't talk about no double date business.
01:00:42There was no double date business.
01:00:44Four of them were in the apartment.
01:00:45Let me rephrase that, Alex.
01:00:47Talking shit, man. I'm not talking shit, man.
01:00:49Alex.
01:00:50I'm just getting fucking pissed off now.
01:00:53You got something to say?
01:00:55Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't...
01:00:57I'm just asking if you've got something to say to me.
01:00:59Don't do that to me, Alex.
01:01:00I'm asking if you've got something to say.
01:01:02Alex, can you just stop?
01:01:03I don't think you need to turn to Rochelle
01:01:05and say you're talking fucking shit
01:01:06and then get a lie, say, oh, you're my fucking snake.
01:01:09There's certain ways of addressing things calmly.
01:01:11Look, you know what, Rochelle, it weren't a double date.
01:01:13This happened. You don't need to attack, attack, attack, attack.
01:01:16And I've sat here and I've watched you attack the women
01:01:18either end and it's fucked me off because I didn't like it, Alex.
01:01:21But he is talking shit, Rochelle.
01:01:22I don't want to sound like you.
01:01:24She doesn't know what she's talking about.
01:01:26There's other ways to address things, Alex.
01:01:28Don't take it out on me.
01:01:29I'm just trying to calm the peace in the room.
01:01:31Who is taking anything out on you?
01:01:32Please respect the forum.
01:01:33Oh, my God, I'm about to...
01:01:37It's meant to be such a good night.
01:01:43Holly's annoyed.
01:01:44I told Lacey that I think she's a snake.
01:01:47And now you've got Sasha coming at me.
01:01:49Just be quiet.
01:01:50Your voice is just going straight through me.
01:01:53If I was Rochelle, I'd be telling my wife,
01:01:54pipe down, not everything needs your two pence.
01:02:00Alex has definitely overreacted and it has embarrassed me.
01:02:03I can't be with a man who treats my friends like that.
01:02:07Cos if he's going to treat my friends like that,
01:02:10he can happily treat me like that.
01:02:15Now, amongst all of the talking,
01:02:17it sounded like someone said you and Hannah have kissed.
01:02:19Yes.
01:02:21On the last night of the retreat,
01:02:23me and Hannah sat and were speaking and we shared a kiss.
01:02:28There was a little connection there.
01:02:30I'm not going to lie, there was a little connection there.
01:02:33What I had was done.
01:02:34I know what she was in was done.
01:02:38Like, so, honestly, I didn't feel like I was walking
01:02:40on anybody's toes or, like, disrespecting anyone.
01:02:45The fact is that this is a private conversation.
01:02:47The fact is that this is a process, isn't it? Yeah.
01:02:50And so if you don't want to be with someone,
01:02:52you both understand the rules. Yes.
01:02:54And the rules is that you make that decision here
01:02:56and you let us know.
01:02:58It's not that you then go and kiss another person's wife.
01:03:07I take that.
01:03:14That's done it, mate.
01:03:15That's done it, mate.
01:03:17It's awesome.
01:03:18Come on.
01:03:20I love it.
01:03:25Do you consider what you did an act of infidelity?
01:03:31In this process, yes.
01:03:34What impact did you expect that to have on Rochelle?
01:03:38If I'm being totally honest, man,
01:03:40this might come across as sound wrongly.
01:03:45I didn't really care about Rochelle in that moment.
01:03:53At the end of the day, Orson, from when I said I didn't like you
01:03:56and I didn't fancy you and I didn't see a future with us,
01:03:58I mean, at that point, I thought you would have gathered up
01:04:00your dignity and wanted to leave anyway.
01:04:04You know, why would you have wanted to stay?
01:04:07I mean, I know I was trying to honour my word,
01:04:10but where was your self-respect and your dignity?
01:04:13Like, were you that desperate to stay in the process?
01:04:18Because what I'm sensing from Orson is a desperation
01:04:22to stay in the process by any means necessary.
01:04:26He saw an opportunity with Hannah to recouple
01:04:29and stay in the process.
01:04:30He jumped at it.
01:04:34You're an embarrassment to yourself at this point.
01:04:37Do you know what I mean? Because it's like Hannah, bless her,
01:04:39went round all the different guys trying to latch onto you.
01:04:42No, I didn't. No, I didn't.
01:04:44Orson is the only one who's stuck.
01:04:49It just reeks of desperation and just, like, you know,
01:04:53no self-respect.
01:04:54It's just, I find it embarrassing.
01:04:56I, you know...
01:04:58OK, well, look, it is very clear that this relationship is done.
01:05:02We do need to go to the decision.
01:05:04Orson, to you first.
01:05:06Um...
01:05:09I came here with the right intentions.
01:05:13I feel like I was trying and trying and trying and trying,
01:05:17just, like, squeezing blood from a stone.
01:05:20Stop the performance, Orson.
01:05:22Stop the performance, I beg you.
01:05:23Stop the performance.
01:05:25If it was that bad, you would not have wanted to stay.
01:05:29You know? On that note, like, just get me out of here, please.
01:05:33And to you, Rochelle.
01:05:36Before I came into this process, I asked for a strong...
01:05:40..intelligent...
01:05:43..man who has a bit of integrity,
01:05:47and I haven't found that in Orson at all.
01:05:51I find him quite weak-willed.
01:05:54He's... You really aren't as sharp as you think you are.
01:05:57It's pretty obvious, I think, to most people that you're a bit simple.
01:06:05He definitely lacks any shred of integrity.
01:06:10So, one week too late, but it's obvious, leave.
01:06:23There are certain expectations around respect.
01:06:26Some of those points of respect have been broken by both of you.
01:06:30By you, Rochelle, not turning up to dinner parties,
01:06:33showing disrespect not only to Orson,
01:06:34but to everyone else here, including us, and the experiment.
01:06:38Orson kissing another person.
01:06:41The two of you are showing very low level of regard
01:06:44for this entire process.
01:06:47And that's something we don't take lightly.
01:06:51It's really disappointing.
01:06:55You can both take a seat. Thank you.
01:06:58APPLAUSE
01:07:07Three rounds to one, and Rochelle's to war.
01:07:17Well, this has been both a challenging...
01:07:22..and enlightening commitment ceremony.
01:07:26Please say your goodbyes to those leaving the process.
01:07:32It's got very ugly.
01:07:34And you've very quickly worn a nightgown.
01:07:37Oh, bless you.
01:07:42Hey, come on, man.
01:07:45You could have told me. You could have told me.
01:07:49I came on here for love. I came on here to find my person.
01:07:53Hannah was bouncing from husband to husband.
01:07:56She kissed Orson.
01:07:57I didn't give it my all, but she didn't deserve my all.
01:08:02I've locked up someone.
01:08:06I do feel a bit bad about what me and Orson have done.
01:08:09We tried to shut it down just out of respect for everyone else,
01:08:12but actually, we keep gravitating back towards each other.
01:08:15And Stephen checked out ages ago.
01:08:18There was no trying, there was no support.
01:08:21I don't feel like I got a fair shot at marriage.
01:08:30I definitely do not regret kissing Hannah.
01:08:38Rochelle picked up everything, really.
01:08:42And there's only so much a man can take.
01:08:46I've been waiting on that.
01:08:48Thanks a lot. I had your back.
01:08:51I think Orson's just shown his true colours,
01:08:53and my intuition about him was right all along.
01:08:56I genuinely don't think that Hannah likes Orson.
01:09:00I don't even think he really likes her.
01:09:02He's just trying to recoup some of his manhood
01:09:07that he probably feels has been stripped from him
01:09:09during this process.
01:09:10It just screams of desperation.
01:09:14Orson is a clown, and I just want it out of the circus show.
01:09:18Yo, Ross.
01:09:21Am I torturing you? I don't know. Am I torturing you?
01:09:25If he's beefs with me, why is he talking to my husband?
01:09:28I don't know. Why does he want to talk to my husband and talk to me?
01:09:31I think I've fucked her. Yeah, I've fucked her.
01:09:35Alex has just got an attitude problem.
01:09:38I can completely see where Holly's been coming from this whole time.
01:09:40I'm not going to tolerate it.
01:09:42Why is he going to talk to you and not me?
01:09:44I don't know, baby. I haven't got an involvement to it.
01:09:46I haven't got an involvement to it.
01:09:48That's not my fucking problem.
01:09:49Not your problem? So your wife isn't your problem?
01:09:52I'm just trying, but I'm not getting involved in drama.
01:09:54Do you think I'm trying to get involved in drama?
01:09:56That's not what I'm doing, Ross.
01:09:57I don't know what you're going to talk to me about, anyway.
01:10:00I don't know.
01:10:01Right now, it doesn't feel like Ross has my back,
01:10:03but we're married, I'm his wife.
01:10:05I would have expected Ross to say,
01:10:07don't talk to my wife that way.
01:10:11I told you from the very start I don't get involved in drama.
01:10:13But I'm your problem, Ross.
01:10:15Oh, yeah.
01:10:16I'm not getting involved in any of this shit.
01:10:18But it's not their shit, it's more than Alex's shit.
01:10:20It's against you, Danielle, I get that.
01:10:22You should have your wife's back, always.
01:10:25I will have her back 100%.
01:10:26Always.
01:10:28My drama is your drama, your drama is my drama.
01:10:30100% yeah.
01:10:36Next time...
01:10:37I'm interested to see what you don't like about me.
01:10:39Honey, there's a lot more than what you think there is.
01:10:42..it's love hate week.
01:10:43Good luck. Good luck.
01:10:44You're going to need it.
01:10:45Where honesty is crucial...
01:10:47Lack of intimacy.
01:10:49You lack depth.
01:10:50What's that mean?
01:10:51..for some couples...
01:10:53Happy tears.
01:10:54..it draws them closer together.
01:10:56Is it the most romantic thing someone's ever done for you?
01:10:58Yeah.
01:10:59I am feeling quite giddy, it's just...
01:11:02Why did you do that to me?
01:11:03I'm going to give you a hand.
01:11:06..but others can't even get the task off the ground.
01:11:09I'm really unhappy.
01:11:11I'm going home today.
01:11:12Why?
01:11:14Get me out of here.
01:11:15I am not running after nobody.
01:11:18While Sasha and Ross...
01:11:19And he went to civics, throws it up the wall.
01:11:22..face their biggest challenge yet.
01:11:24I am not comfortable with you being in this apartment.
01:11:28I am going to struggle to recover from this.
01:11:31It's fucked up my head.
01:11:32Right, I'm going.