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00:00:27And with one shot, the Rocksdale Killer had struck again.
00:00:32The body of Monica...
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00:00:39Thumbs!
00:00:40You scared us.
00:00:41You two listening to a true crime podcast again?
00:00:44No.
00:00:45Yes.
00:00:46No.
00:00:47It's not any true crime podcast.
00:00:49It's Whodunit featuring Laurel St. James.
00:00:52You guys need to make some new friends.
00:00:55I'll see you in class.
00:00:56Okay.
00:00:59Ha ha!
00:01:02Class doesn't start for another ten minutes.
00:01:04That's exactly what I was thinking.
00:01:06Press play.
00:01:08Birdie Case, I love you.
00:01:15After shooting her, the killer placed a note in the victim's hand.
00:01:19He disappeared into the darkness.
00:01:21His identity still unknown to this day.
00:01:27As someone who spent 25 years working homicides,
00:01:31I can tell you it's evidence that solves crimes,
00:01:35not the story of the crime.
00:01:37So when someone describes the narrative of the crime,
00:01:41you have to be skeptical.
00:01:44So...
00:01:47what's the job of the P.I.?
00:01:50Yes, Birdie.
00:01:52We have to verify everything.
00:01:53Exactly.
00:01:54Don't let the story dictate the evidence,
00:01:57no matter how fun that story might be.
00:01:59Let the evidence tell the story, okay?
00:02:04Pieces.
00:02:06Alden, you with us, or...
00:02:09Uh, loud and clear.
00:02:11Evidence, not narrative.
00:02:13All right, on to one of my favorite subjects.
00:02:15The dangers of roughshadowing.
00:02:18Why am I always so jazzed after spending three hours
00:02:20talking about murder?
00:02:21I know, I know, me too.
00:02:24But wait, we're not that murder couple, right?
00:02:27We do have other hobbies, right?
00:02:29Birdie, we're private investigators now.
00:02:31It's our job to be immersed in the crime world.
00:02:33Doctors go to hospitals, we listen to strangers,
00:02:35talk about murder.
00:02:36I don't know if that's quite the same.
00:02:37We are the doctors of murder.
00:02:40Yeah, no, that doesn't sound right.
00:02:42Whatever, we have a lot of normal people hobbies, too.
00:02:44You like yoga, you know, and doing lawyer stuff,
00:02:47and I, uh...
00:02:49And you, you collect robots,
00:02:52and you brew your own root beer,
00:02:54and you will literally do anything
00:02:56to wear a fake mustache.
00:02:58Well, mine doesn't grow in right.
00:03:00Do you think Thom's is right?
00:03:02Do we have to make new friends?
00:03:04Oh, we have tons of friends.
00:03:05Not counting your robots.
00:03:07Yeah, he may have a point.
00:03:12Listen to your body.
00:03:16Inhale light.
00:03:20Exhale what doesn't serve you.
00:03:30Oh, sorry.
00:03:33This is a room.
00:03:35I thought there was a room before the room
00:03:37where you do whatever this is.
00:03:39This is a sacred space.
00:03:42Leave!
00:03:44No, babe.
00:03:45Namaste.
00:03:47Okay.
00:03:48Namago.
00:03:50Babe, I love you.
00:03:52High five.
00:03:59And that concludes class.
00:04:02If you haven't done so,
00:04:04please subscribe to my podcast,
00:04:06Fire Breath.
00:04:08That is fire with a y.
00:04:11And breathe in the light at home.
00:04:16Sorry about that.
00:04:17Just got distracted with these cinnamon buns.
00:04:19Eh, don't worry about it.
00:04:21Winters just gets protective of her sacred space.
00:04:24Yeah, and it's terms like sacred space,
00:04:26why we'll never be doing yoga.
00:04:28I'm sure that's the only reason.
00:04:32These cinnamon buns are magical.
00:04:34Wait, how'd you get those?
00:04:35I thought they were always sold out.
00:04:36I got a guy.
00:04:37Well, of course you got a guy.
00:04:39You want one?
00:04:40It just worked out.
00:04:42Exactly.
00:04:43Calories cancel each other out.
00:04:45Come on.
00:04:47Well, if the math works out.
00:04:49Yeah, give me a little bite.
00:04:52Mmm, those are magical.
00:04:55Right?
00:04:56Wait, you're not planning on eating all those today, are you?
00:04:58Nope.
00:04:59These ones for tomorrow.
00:05:00The coffee dunkers.
00:05:01Mmm, a man with a plan.
00:05:03Wait.
00:05:04Birdie?
00:05:05Birdie Perez?
00:05:07Birdie Perez?
00:05:08Kristen Duckbird?
00:05:10I thought that was you.
00:05:11Hi.
00:05:12Hey.
00:05:14Well, I'm actually Birdie Case now.
00:05:16This is my husband Alden.
00:05:17Hi.
00:05:18Hi. Guilty.
00:05:19Hi. Sorry.
00:05:20Sunday cinnamon buns are a bit of a commitment.
00:05:22I thought you moved to New York.
00:05:23I did.
00:05:24Yeah, I moved back after my dad passed away
00:05:26to take over the family business.
00:05:28So sorry to hear about your dad.
00:05:29I work with my mom,
00:05:31so I can seriously speak to family business
00:05:33and all that comes with it.
00:05:34Ooh, can't wait to hear about that.
00:05:36We should catch up.
00:05:37Do you want to get drinks tomorrow?
00:05:38You know what? Yes, let's do it.
00:05:40Let's make it dinner.
00:05:41We've got a lot of ground to cover.
00:05:42I love it.
00:05:43Yes.
00:05:44You two should come over.
00:05:45Yeah, you can meet my boyfriend Tom.
00:05:47We've only been dating a couple months,
00:05:48but I feel like if he can handle a couple high school stories between us,
00:05:52he might be a keeper.
00:05:53Well, we will try not to scare him off.
00:05:56That sounds super fun.
00:05:58Yeah.
00:05:59Right? Wouldn't it, hon?
00:06:01Yeah, that's super fun.
00:06:02Text me, and we will iron out the details.
00:06:05Great.
00:06:06Okay, bye.
00:06:07Nice to meet you.
00:06:08Yeah.
00:06:09Huh.
00:06:12She was a friend of yours from high school?
00:06:15Kind of.
00:06:16You know, we had a healthy rivalry.
00:06:18I mean, technically I had a higher GPA,
00:06:21but the principal rounded up the decimal points,
00:06:23so we were co-valedictorians.
00:06:25And we're happy that she's back?
00:06:27Yes, babe. This is how we make friends.
00:06:36It's a beautiful day for cinnamon buns.
00:06:40Ow!
00:06:42Bob's gonna get some cinnamon buns
00:06:45and pop them in my mouth.
00:06:47Dunk.
00:06:51What in the world?
00:06:55No.
00:06:56No, no.
00:06:57No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:07:00What happened to the dunkers?
00:07:02I don't know. Something got to them first.
00:07:04I mean, look.
00:07:05It's like a crime scene and not the fun kind.
00:07:07Here, let me help you.
00:07:09Gross. I feel so violated.
00:07:12I looked forward to that all week.
00:07:14I'm sure it's a one-off.
00:07:16Oh, and don't forget,
00:07:17we have dinner with Kristen and her boyfriend Tom tonight.
00:07:20How could I forget?
00:07:25What kind of name is Tom, anyway?
00:07:27Is he gonna float a raft down the Mississippi River?
00:07:30I'm sure that Tom is a nice guy.
00:07:32And you know what?
00:07:33I'm actually happy to reconnect with Kristen.
00:07:35It will be good for us to make new friends.
00:07:38We don't exactly have the best track record, babe.
00:07:40I have no idea what you're talking about.
00:07:42After charades with the Marksons,
00:07:43I think we're just lucky that they accepted your apology.
00:07:46Uh, our apology?
00:07:49We'll see you after work.
00:07:55Her hair will grow back eventually.
00:07:58Where are you?
00:08:00Where are you? Where are you? Where are you?
00:08:03Ah, yes. Okay.
00:08:06Come on.
00:08:08Ah, keys, keys, keys. Okay.
00:08:11One of you has got to work, right?
00:08:15Birdie?
00:08:16Yeah?
00:08:17Where are you with the Wagner case?
00:08:18Oh, I'm nearly done.
00:08:20Just waiting for their counsel to send revisions.
00:08:22Should be good by the end of the week.
00:08:23Okay, well, send them to me as soon as you can.
00:08:25Okay.
00:08:28I don't need them that badly.
00:08:29No, no, no.
00:08:30I'm looking for a hairpin or a paperclip.
00:08:33Oh.
00:08:34Here.
00:08:36Oh, perfect.
00:08:38Are you going to pick the lock?
00:08:39I mean, I've never done it before,
00:08:42but, you know, on TV it seems pretty straightforward.
00:08:45I'll call a locksmith.
00:08:46No, no, no, no, no. I got it. I got it.
00:08:48Thank you. I got it.
00:08:51I...
00:08:53100%
00:08:55totally
00:08:56got it.
00:09:01All right.
00:09:04Okay.
00:09:06Let's see.
00:09:07Lock picking
00:09:09for beginners.
00:09:13Yes.
00:09:16Yes.
00:09:28This outfit looks really good on you.
00:09:29Like an unemployed funeral director.
00:09:31You look handsome.
00:09:34Thank you for doing this.
00:09:36Of course.
00:09:37My favorite hobby is making you happy.
00:09:40Are you flirting with me?
00:09:41I don't know. Maybe.
00:09:44Hey, guys.
00:09:45Hi.
00:09:46Come on in.
00:09:48Sorry, Tom called from work.
00:09:50He's going to be a little late.
00:09:51Oh, no problem.
00:09:52Can I get you some wine?
00:09:53Yes, please.
00:09:54I'll stick with the old sarsaparilla.
00:09:57Great.
00:10:00Wine for Birdie, then.
00:10:06So, how long have you been married?
00:10:08Oh, wow.
00:10:09It was like 20 years.
00:10:19Oh, no way.
00:10:23Babe.
00:10:24She's got Laurel St. James' book.
00:10:26Wait.
00:10:27Do you like murder?
00:10:29Yeah.
00:10:31I guess.
00:10:33Laurel's actually one of our authors.
00:10:35We published that book.
00:10:36She's one of our best sellers.
00:10:38It's probably the only reason why we're still in business.
00:10:40Publishing sounds like a rough business.
00:10:41Well, I'm fourth generation,
00:10:43so rough business is in my blood.
00:10:45Oh, it's signed.
00:10:46Nice.
00:10:48No way.
00:10:49Yeah.
00:10:50Oh, I should introduce you.
00:10:52She records her podcast in town.
00:10:53Great.
00:10:54Yeah.
00:10:55Sounds good.
00:10:56It's Tom.
00:10:58Introduce us?
00:10:59What?
00:11:00We're gonna be Laurel St. James.
00:11:01Oh, my gosh.
00:11:02You know what?
00:11:03Honestly, this whole having friends thing,
00:11:04it's not so bad.
00:11:05See?
00:11:06I told you, and you're doing so, so good.
00:11:07Thanks, babe.
00:11:08As promised,
00:11:09this is my boyfriend, Tom.
00:11:12He's a policeman.
00:11:15Oh, we've...
00:11:17met.
00:11:26Wow, so you solved the Lee McGinnis murders.
00:11:28Mm-hmm.
00:11:29Yeah, that's how we know Officer Air Quotes.
00:11:32Excuse me, Officer Newton.
00:11:34You had it right.
00:11:35You can call me Tom.
00:11:36Tom.
00:11:38So, Alden, you still into robots or whatever?
00:11:43Oh, it's a very busy time of year.
00:11:45We're seeing a lot of lesser-known omnibots come to market
00:11:47while the frenzy over vintage showguns has kind of died down.
00:11:50Although I did get my hands on a rare Bondi Shogokin,
00:11:54which is pretty cool.
00:11:58I don't know what any of that means.
00:12:00Yes, I'm still into robots.
00:12:02Cool.
00:12:07Man, this might be the best root beer I've ever had.
00:12:09Mm-hmm.
00:12:10I made that.
00:12:11Mm-hmm.
00:12:12You make your own root beer?
00:12:13It's small-batch, award-winning root beer.
00:12:16Award-pending, like I said, in the form.
00:12:18But I could send you a case.
00:12:22Case?
00:12:23Oh, sure, yeah, that'd be cool.
00:12:27Cool.
00:12:30Well, cheers.
00:12:31Cheers.
00:12:32Cheers.
00:12:33To robots and root beer.
00:12:35Robots and root beer.
00:12:38I'm so happy you guys came over.
00:12:40Me too.
00:12:41Yeah, you know what?
00:12:42This was fun.
00:12:45Agreed.
00:12:46We should do it again sometime.
00:12:48You bring the root beer.
00:12:50Hey, if you ever need a hand on a case, we are always happy to help.
00:12:53Always.
00:12:54I don't think so.
00:12:56But, hey, you never know.
00:13:00So you're saying there's a chance.
00:13:04Your coat, milady.
00:13:05Oh, what a gentleman.
00:13:07Oh, I got it, baby.
00:13:08Oops.
00:13:11What's with the rubber ducky?
00:13:12My last name is Duckburn.
00:13:14Duckburn Publishing.
00:13:15It's our little logo.
00:13:17We give them out.
00:13:18Do you want one?
00:13:19Uh, yeah.
00:13:20Oh, great.
00:13:21I'll send you one.
00:13:22Well, thank you so much for hosting.
00:13:24It was so much fun.
00:13:25All right, have a good night, you guys.
00:13:26Cool.
00:13:27Bye.
00:13:28See you guys.
00:13:31Well, I think they liked you.
00:13:33I can be charming.
00:13:36Okay, I'll see you tomorrow.
00:13:38Bye.
00:13:48Bye.
00:14:13You didn't go with him, did you?
00:14:19Swanson's yogurt is delightfully delicious.
00:14:22Yogurt, yogurt, yo-yo-yogurt.
00:14:25Swanson's yogurt, it's delightfully...
00:14:33Look who it is.
00:14:35You took my yogurt, Laurel.
00:14:36I know it was you.
00:14:37And it was delightfully delicious.
00:14:41That's my line.
00:14:42Delightfully.
00:14:43Delightfully delicious.
00:14:45He's going over his time again.
00:14:47Oh, I'm sure he's just finishing up.
00:14:50Oh, don't worry, love.
00:14:52I'm locking up now.
00:14:53The place will be all yours in just a moment.
00:14:56Nigel, I pay for a private studio starting at 9 p.m.
00:15:00Yeah.
00:15:01I have a very important show tonight.
00:15:02Yeah, that reminds me of the time me and Ronnie Wood were in a bowling alley in New Jersey.
00:15:06Well, it's all yours, Your Majesty.
00:15:09Oh, really?
00:15:11Did you see that?
00:15:12I don't know how you do it.
00:15:13I don't know how you put up with that woman.
00:15:16Oh, it's too much.
00:15:17Why?
00:15:19It wasn't New Jersey.
00:15:22And it wasn't Ronnie Wood.
00:15:25Whoa.
00:15:26It says here that we shouldn't be using seed oils.
00:15:28Apparently, they're terrible for you.
00:15:30What?
00:15:32I thought they were supposed to be good for you.
00:15:34Used to be, I guess, and now they're not.
00:15:36Inflammatory to the gut or something.
00:15:40Oh, come on.
00:15:42Stuff is falling apart.
00:15:45Okay.
00:15:47I don't want you to freak out, but we may have an M-O-U-S-E.
00:15:53Oh, no, no, no.
00:15:54No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:15:55Don't you spell it.
00:15:57Just calm down.
00:15:58It's gonna be fine.
00:16:00No, it's not gonna be fine.
00:16:02Let's just get some sleep and we'll deal with the mouse situation tomorrow.
00:16:09Nobody's sleeping tonight.
00:16:13Nobody.
00:16:16No.
00:16:21Seriously?
00:16:23Testing, testing, one, two, three.
00:16:25Testing, testing, one, two.
00:16:31Welcome to another episode of Whodunit.
00:16:33I'm Laurel St. James.
00:16:36On this, the final episode of Whodunit,
00:16:39you're gonna hear the true story of the Rocksdale Killer.
00:16:42We are gonna dive into the lives of the three victims.
00:16:45Monica Ganey, Caroline Olmsted, and Alexandra Kolesnikoff.
00:16:51Innocent young women gunned down in the prime of their lives.
00:16:55You see, fate was a cruel master.
00:16:58Look at the victims of these senseless crimes.
00:17:03This episode is like no other,
00:17:05as I will finally reveal the truth behind the Rocksdale Killer.
00:17:10Behind the Rocksdale Killer.
00:17:41What do we have?
00:17:42Morning, Chief.
00:17:43Female, 54 years old, ID in the victim's purse.
00:17:46Her name is Laurel St. James.
00:17:48Coroner's on the way, but cause of death looks to be a fatal gunshot wound.
00:17:51Found a bullet in the chair.
00:17:55That's definitely Laurel.
00:17:57Keep this one close.
00:17:58There's gonna be press.
00:18:00You find the body?
00:18:03Yeah, it's the manager, Nigel Plumlee.
00:18:05He's the one who shot the victim.
00:18:07Yeah, it's the manager, Nigel Plumlee.
00:18:09He closed up after 9 o'clock last night.
00:18:12She was here alone.
00:18:13He was first on the scene at 6.30 this morning.
00:18:15Any security cameras?
00:18:16Yep.
00:18:17What?
00:18:18They don't work.
00:18:19Broke last year.
00:18:20Were never fixed.
00:18:21However, we did find this.
00:18:24TRK.
00:18:26Rocksdale Killer.
00:18:27Think he's back?
00:18:28Let's hope not.
00:18:30Get the manager and everyone else who had access to the studio in for an interview.
00:18:34Yes, sir.
00:18:38Mmm.
00:18:41Hello.
00:18:42Good morning, sleepyhead.
00:18:45Let me know what you think.
00:18:51Not bad.
00:18:53Well, I learned from the best.
00:18:56Hey, you wouldn't happen to have my car keys, would you?
00:18:58Yep, they're in my jacket.
00:19:02Ah!
00:19:03Oh, I saw it.
00:19:04It was huge.
00:19:05Oh, it had big red eyes and claws.
00:19:07Okay, just calm down, babe.
00:19:09Take a deep breath.
00:19:10I'll go check it out.
00:19:11Okay?
00:19:13Be careful.
00:19:14Those things have the plague.
00:19:15Mm-hmm.
00:19:16Mm-hmm.
00:19:17Well, I didn't find it, but I did find these.
00:19:22I will not have a repeat of the Camp Guinevazake sleeping bag incident of 1992, Birdie.
00:19:26I will not.
00:19:27I know.
00:19:28I know, babe.
00:19:29Don't worry.
00:19:30I'm going to call the exterminator.
00:19:31I need to buy some duct tape, some netting, some chicken wire, possibly a harpoon.
00:19:34Yes, I think we might have a mouse in the house.
00:19:36Oh, yeah.
00:19:37Mm-hmm.
00:19:38Wait a minute.
00:19:39I'm talking crazy.
00:19:40I already have duct tape.
00:19:42Good morning.
00:19:43We begin with breaking news.
00:19:44I'm outside the Studio 45 podcast studio where we're hearing reports of a homicide happening here late last night.
00:19:51My sources are telling me that the victim is famed true crime author and podcaster Laurel St. James.
00:19:58You may remember that Laurel St. James rocketed to fame with her reporting on the Rocksdale Killer,
00:20:03who allegedly killed three young women in the Boston area in the early 1990s,
00:20:08and that person has remained at large ever since.
00:20:11Hey.
00:20:12Are you seeing what I'm seeing?
00:20:13Yeah, this is crazy.
00:20:14You should check in with Kristen.
00:20:15Yeah, yeah, I will.
00:20:16I cannot believe that Laurel St. James is dead.
00:20:19Oh, has the exterminator gotten there yet?
00:20:21What?
00:20:22I don't need an exterminator.
00:20:23I'm literally fixing the problem as we speak.
00:20:25Alden, he'll be there any minute, okay?
00:20:27Please let him help.
00:20:29I gotta go.
00:20:30Birdie, I...
00:20:39What's up, bro?
00:20:40Your wife called about helping you out with a mouse?
00:20:43Yeah, we're good.
00:20:44Bro, we got it covered.
00:20:46Well, she said it was an emergency.
00:20:48Mentioned you were threatening to burn the house down.
00:20:52What?
00:20:53That's crazy.
00:20:54I'm not gonna burn the house down.
00:20:56You gonna burn the house down that bad?
00:20:58No burning down the house.
00:21:00Yeah, he's not gonna burn the house down.
00:21:03Would that work, though?
00:21:04I'm just gonna leave you my card, just in case.
00:21:10This is my house, and I'll protect it.
00:21:17Crazy day?
00:21:19Laurel St. James is dead.
00:21:21Wow. I know who Laurel St. James is. That's big news.
00:21:25Yeah.
00:21:27Something else is bothering you.
00:21:29We have a mouse in the house.
00:21:30Oh, no.
00:21:31And with Alden's experience at summer camp where the mouse climbed into his sleeping bag and the zipper got stuck and he and the mouse couldn't get out?
00:21:37Yeah. So Alden is completely freaking out, so I called the exterminator, and now he's saying that he doesn't want the help.
00:21:44But I thought you two were back on track.
00:21:46We are. No, we are. It's just...
00:21:49He gets so easily distracted, and sometimes I feel like he isn't listening.
00:21:55Well, sometimes listening is a two-way street.
00:22:04Well, it all started years ago.
00:22:06So me and McFleetwood had just rented tandem bicycles, and we were about to go Dutch on a baguette and jam, when suddenly we realized...
00:22:14Wait. Stop. Just walk me through what happened.
00:22:18No. First, you've got to understand that Mick was more of a chutney guy, right?
00:22:23What's chutney?
00:22:25She took my yogurt.
00:22:26She took your what?
00:22:27It was delightfully delicious.
00:22:29Why are you talking like that?
00:22:31My podcast is called Fire Breath, F-Y-R-E.
00:22:35We cover a variety of topics, but mainly it's a beacon of light and truth for my listeners.
00:22:41And did you know Laurel?
00:22:42I knew the vessel called Laurel.
00:22:44Right.
00:22:46This is going to take long.
00:22:47I'm told you also have a true crime podcast.
00:22:49Was there any competition between you and Laurel?
00:22:52No, you shouldn't be looking at me. You should be looking at, well, the TRK.
00:22:55But this could be the work of the Pittsburgh Strangler, or A.J. Shockman.
00:22:58I mean, we could have another blueprint killer situation on our hands.
00:23:00What?
00:23:02According to the synopsis of our current timeline, there are multiple outcomes, all dependent on each particular dimension.
00:23:12We're good here.
00:23:15Enjoy your dimension.
00:23:19Any luck deciphering any of that?
00:23:21It's like they're speaking a different language. I didn't get any of it.
00:23:24Me neither. I think we're going to need some help.
00:23:27This case has already become front page news. I've got reporters hounding me for updates.
00:23:31Okay, so what are you thinking?
00:23:33We have a little money in the budget to hire a consultant.
00:23:36We need to find someone who speaks their language.
00:23:39Speaks their language? Did you listen to that? That's like a new dimension of nerd speak.
00:23:44I don't know anybody that would understand.
00:23:49Oh, no.
00:23:58That's it. Nice and easy.
00:24:03There you go. Good boy.
00:24:06Good boy.
00:24:09Remind me again what the tinfoil is for?
00:24:11I thought it was obvious, so we could track the mouse and hear its little footsteps.
00:24:16Babe, all of this tinfoil is interfering with the Wi-Fi.
00:24:22Oh, come on.
00:24:23What? What happened?
00:24:24No, no, no. Nothing, nothing, nothing.
00:24:25Just, um, my mom sent me a redline document that I thought I was done with.
00:24:31I don't even know how you can think about work at a time like this. The house is under siege.
00:24:35You're not the one who didn't let the exterminator help. That is his job all day.
00:24:38Yeah, and you know, you didn't have to call him behind my back.
00:24:41You were literally in the room. You just weren't listening.
00:24:47I have no idea who that could be.
00:24:49Maybe the mouse ordered takeout.
00:24:56Listen, we're a little understaffed with the Laurel case, and you need our help.
00:25:04I already regret this.
00:25:05Are we on the case?
00:25:06Yes, you're on the case.
00:25:09Oh, we're on the case, we're on the case, we're on the case, we're on the case.
00:25:18All right, here's everything on the Roxdale killer.
00:25:20Well, we didn't start digitizing files in the 2000s. Roxdale was in the 90s, so we only have hard copies.
00:25:25Oh, there's actually not a lot here.
00:25:28Nope, that's what we got. And there's this. This has all the audio files from Laurel's studio.
00:25:33Outtakes, episodes, even a murder. There is a lot on here.
00:25:37Nice.
00:25:38Nope.
00:25:39While we think there may be a connection to the Roxdale killer, we still need to check out other suspects.
00:25:45Which, more importantly, brings us to why we're asking you to help with the case.
00:25:49We need your help interviewing potential suspects.
00:25:52Why would you need our help with that?
00:25:54Well, the interviewees are a little, how do I put this, challenging.
00:25:58So meet me at the station tomorrow at 9 a.m.
00:26:00Do you really think that the Roxdale killer could be back after all these years?
00:26:04I don't know, but we're going to find out.
00:26:09Okay, so here are the first three victims of the Roxdale killer.
00:26:13We have number one, Caroline Olmsted.
00:26:16Number two, Monica Ganey.
00:26:19Number three, Alexandra Plesnikoff.
00:26:23And our current victim, Laurel St. James.
00:26:26Yep.
00:26:28Oh, we're doing purple string now?
00:26:31No, I buy whatever's on sale. This week it was purple.
00:26:34And I think it looks fantastic.
00:26:37Fair enough.
00:26:38Okay, so, between Laurel's podcast and her newspaper clippings and her book,
00:26:45Laurel created a bit of a cottage industry around the Roxdale killer.
00:26:49But did she scare him out of retirement?
00:26:51Scissors.
00:26:53Well, the note at the crime scene says,
00:26:57silence speaks louder than words.
00:27:01So maybe she was getting too close to identifying the killer?
00:27:05That would be enough motive to come out of retirement to shut her up.
00:27:09It's just so weird. I cannot find notes from the first three victims.
00:27:13I don't know.
00:27:15All right.
00:27:18Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what's going on with the cans?
00:27:21Well, it's kind of a two-pronged approach.
00:27:23You see, the mouse runs into the cans, gets disoriented,
00:27:26and then straight into the trap and snap.
00:27:29I said it was some pecorino. I mean, it's his last meal, I want it to be good.
00:27:32Right.
00:27:33I see that you have a very clear vision with this, but I need your brain here, babe.
00:27:39This is a big deal.
00:27:40We have to get familiar with these files so that we are ready for our interviews tomorrow.
00:27:45We get to be detectives, like the ones on TV.
00:27:48Yeah, you're right, of course. Okay, priorities.
00:27:52Okay, so...
00:27:54She took my yogurt. It was delightfully delicious.
00:27:57But it isn't delightfully delicious, is it?
00:27:59Well, it's...
00:28:03I've tried said yogurt before, and let me tell you, it's pretty terrible.
00:28:10So Pat...
00:28:13What's really going on?
00:28:15Yeah, Pat.
00:28:16Yeah, Pat.
00:28:18She's mean.
00:28:20She's a bully.
00:28:22She creates this toxic work environment, and I don't like it, but I didn't kill her, I swear.
00:28:27Don't tell anyone. Please, don't tell anyone.
00:28:30It's hard for me to describe where I was, because time and space are not absolute.
00:28:35One's perception of time is different than another person's.
00:28:38You can have multiple variations of the same instance.
00:28:42Are you talking about time dilation?
00:28:45Very perceptive.
00:28:46You watch a lot of Titans Odyssey?
00:28:48I never miss an episode.
00:28:50Oh, man.
00:28:56So I says to Stevie Nicks, right?
00:28:58I says, I know what everyone's saying, right?
00:29:01But trust me, you just gotta lean into the scarf thing.
00:29:06That's so good. That's so great.
00:29:08So where were you two nights ago between 9 and 10 p.m.?
00:29:13I was at home with Mother.
00:29:15And she could vouch for that?
00:29:18Mother's my cat.
00:29:21I know you, don't I?
00:29:25I take your Sunday morning book classes.
00:29:27The energy between you two is out of harmony.
00:29:31You both are speaking, but no one is listening to each other.
00:29:36You and Laurel often recorded your podcasts on the same days.
00:29:41I heard that you two didn't really get along.
00:29:45Did you ever exchange more than words?
00:29:48I could not bring physical harm to any creature on this realm or the other.
00:29:54Well, word around town is you have quite the temper.
00:29:57Maybe you're not as zen as you'd like to come across.
00:30:00In fact, some people describe you as phony.
00:30:02No!
00:30:04That's malicious gossip.
00:30:07You want to search my things? My sacred space?
00:30:12Here, dig! Dig!
00:30:15I think we're good for today. This has been great.
00:30:18That's it for now. Thank you so much.
00:30:29Aside from TRK, it could be the Kojak Killer.
00:30:32And I will say this again, the Blueprint Killer is a real possibility here.
00:30:36Well, only problem with that is authorities believe the Kojak Killer died in 1972,
00:30:40and the Blueprint Killer, come on, that's so 2010.
00:30:46Let me ask you something.
00:30:48Now, if someone wanted to harm Laurel, who would that be?
00:30:53Definitely the Rocksdale Killer.
00:30:55And possibly her ex-husband.
00:30:57Ex-husband?
00:30:59Peter St. James.
00:31:01Did I mention that she and her ex had a very contentious divorce?
00:31:04And she said that he was the bane of her existence. On the record.
00:31:08So, just for our records, where were you that night between 9 and 10 p.m.?
00:31:12At home. Planning for my next show. Nothing special.
00:31:15Can anyone corroborate that?
00:31:17No. I live alone.
00:31:19Okay, you know what? We're going to leave it there for now.
00:31:21Thank you for your help, Katie.
00:31:25By the way, I'm a big fan of you two.
00:31:27I'm actually doing a podcast episode tomorrow on my show on your last case, Lean McGuinness.
00:31:31Would you guys want to come by the studio for an interview?
00:31:34Yeah.
00:31:35Well, so long as we only talk about the Lean McGuinness case and not this one.
00:31:40Deal.
00:31:41See you tomorrow.
00:31:46Ooh.
00:31:47Don't touch that.
00:31:51Oh, here it is.
00:31:53Okay, Peter St. James.
00:31:55St. James.
00:31:56Looks like Laurel filed a restraining order during the divorce.
00:31:59Arrested for trespassing.
00:32:01Trespassing.
00:32:02And a couple other minor things.
00:32:04Well, that's not good.
00:32:05Look, he's even in the right age range to be the Rocksteel Killer.
00:32:09What if Laurel was sleeping with the enemy?
00:32:12Oh, that's juicy.
00:32:14Okay, I'm going to go check this guy out.
00:32:16Yeah, with us.
00:32:17No, not with you.
00:32:18What is with you guys in a personal space?
00:32:19We're not some crime-fighting team that's going to form an unlikely friendship
00:32:22and somehow become better people because of it, alright?
00:32:26Tom!
00:32:30We could be helpful.
00:32:31Okay, I mean, we do speak the language of the people.
00:32:38Fine, you can come.
00:32:39Meet me there at three.
00:32:40I'll text you the address.
00:32:41Do not go in without me.
00:32:42Understood?
00:32:43Understood.
00:32:44That's not funny.
00:32:45It was a little funny.
00:32:46Yeah.
00:32:48Okay, yeah, so I think this is it.
00:32:50Uh-huh.
00:32:51Peter St. James.
00:32:52Yeah.
00:32:53Okay, so I'm going to ask him about the restraining order and the trespassing.
00:32:55Sounds good, babe.
00:32:57How's it look?
00:32:58You never miss an opportunity.
00:33:00Never.
00:33:03Your quotes is late.
00:33:04Yeah, well, we're just going to wait here like we said we would.
00:33:07Exactly.
00:33:08We should look around.
00:33:09Go through his trash.
00:33:10Get to know the guy.
00:33:11That sounds like a terrible idea.
00:33:12On it.
00:33:13Alden!
00:33:14Alden!
00:33:16You're always doing this.
00:33:18We told him that we would wait for him.
00:33:20Alden!
00:33:23Alden, we have to go back.
00:33:25Come on, Alden.
00:33:26Alden.
00:33:27Let's roll out.
00:33:32Alden, we should not be doing this.
00:33:34I'm just going to take you.
00:33:35Stop going through people's trash.
00:33:37It's a lot warmer inside.
00:33:40Come on.
00:33:41I made snooker doodles.
00:33:43After you, honey.
00:33:49Mmm.
00:33:52Mmm.
00:33:53So delicious.
00:33:55I'm surprised it's taken you all so long to get here.
00:33:57Why's that?
00:33:59I'm the ex.
00:34:00I'm suspect numero uno.
00:34:02Did you kill her?
00:34:04Right for the jugular.
00:34:06That's my kind of man.
00:34:08No, I did not.
00:34:09No, I did not.
00:34:15Hola, amigo.
00:34:16Cookies?
00:34:27No, I'm good.
00:34:28Thanks.
00:34:30Watch your arm.
00:34:32So, what'd I miss?
00:34:34Well, I'm not shocked about Laurel's murder.
00:34:37And I get why you're asking.
00:34:38I have more than enough motive.
00:34:41But, Laurel, she took everything away from me.
00:34:44Your divorce did seem quite contentious.
00:34:46The way Laurel painted me made me sound like a monster.
00:34:49But most of it wasn't even true.
00:34:51Laurel, she had a gift of storytelling.
00:34:53And the restraining order?
00:34:54She threw me out of the bus.
00:34:55That's what she does.
00:34:57Just ask Maxwell Kovac.
00:34:59Who's Maxwell Kovac?
00:35:01Sounds like you need to do a little more research.
00:35:03Funny thing is, though, you know, a few weeks ago,
00:35:06she came by and she apologized.
00:35:08What did she apologize for?
00:35:09You know, the end of our marriage, our blind ambitions,
00:35:12how she made up things about me.
00:35:14And where were you the night she was killed?
00:35:16Book club.
00:35:17We were reading Microwater for Chocolate.
00:35:19It's an incredible story.
00:35:20Oh, como agua para chocolate.
00:35:22Oh, what a love story.
00:35:23The love between Tita and Pedro.
00:35:25But the betrayal?
00:35:26I know.
00:35:27One of you has to go.
00:35:28She tried to get me to read the book.
00:35:29Get out.
00:35:30Well, we are going to come over for a baking class.
00:35:33Oh, yes.
00:35:34Those cookies?
00:35:35Divine.
00:35:36I'll stop by any time.
00:35:37Maybe dinner.
00:35:38Yeah, that'd be great.
00:35:40What a great guy.
00:35:41Did I or did I not tell you to wait for me?
00:35:44Uh, well, he invited us in, actually.
00:35:47Kate, the thing you're not getting is,
00:35:49I'm responsible for your safety,
00:35:50and I can't protect you if you don't listen to me.
00:35:52I know, I know.
00:35:53We're sorry.
00:35:54It will not happen again.
00:35:55Yeah, Paul Simon, it's not you I'm worried about.
00:35:57It's Garfunkel here that concerns me.
00:35:59All right, I don't think we need the name calling.
00:36:00Just come on.
00:36:02I'm sorry.
00:36:03It won't happen again.
00:36:04Okay, I'll look into his alibi.
00:36:05You guys look into Maxwell Kovach,
00:36:07but I think it's safe to say that Peter's not our guy.
00:36:09Sounds like a plan.
00:36:10Go...
00:36:11Go...
00:36:12Home.
00:36:13He'll get there.
00:36:14Yep.
00:36:15All right.
00:36:16Those cookies.
00:36:17Unbelievable.
00:36:24I'm coming for you, little mouse.
00:36:32I'm coming for you, little mouse.
00:36:43Oh, don't even think about going all in.
00:36:45I got you beat.
00:36:46Big Bird to Baby Bird.
00:36:48Anything on Kovach?
00:36:50Nope, nope, not yet.
00:36:52Any mouse sightings?
00:36:54Uh...
00:36:57Oh, um...
00:36:58No, oh...
00:36:59You know what?
00:37:00Yeah, yeah, I think I heard something by the couch.
00:37:03On it.
00:37:08I'll get him.
00:37:10Babe, you can trust me.
00:37:26Alden?
00:37:27No!
00:37:28I have to tell you something.
00:37:30Okay.
00:37:31I've been playing poker online a lot for a while,
00:37:34and I've been hiding it from you,
00:37:35and the story I kept telling myself was that this was just for fun,
00:37:38and that the secret wasn't a big deal,
00:37:40but any secret between us is a big deal.
00:37:43Why didn't you just tell me?
00:37:45Because I didn't want you to judge me for playing poker.
00:37:47Birdie, I am the last person in the world
00:37:52in a position to judge someone for their extracurricular activities.
00:37:56I love you for your weird,
00:38:00in the same way that you love me for mine.
00:38:04We are all or nothing,
00:38:06and I am all in with you.
00:38:09No more secrets, though.
00:38:11No more secrets.
00:38:15Well, there is one more thing.
00:38:16Okay.
00:38:19I'm really good at poker.
00:38:21Like, how good?
00:38:23Like, I turned a hundred bucks into $28,983.16,
00:38:27and I have a reputation online for being a ruthless shark.
00:38:29There are chat rooms dedicated to people complaining about how good I am.
00:38:36Do we need to plan a trip to Vegas?
00:38:38I can see a poker-themed adventure in our future.
00:38:42Should we get back to work?
00:38:43Yeah, yeah, we really should.
00:38:44Okay.
00:38:45So, listen, I started going through Laurel's audio files.
00:38:47Okay, okay.
00:38:48So far.
00:38:49Big old snooze vest.
00:38:51Really?
00:38:52Nothing at all here.
00:38:53Listen to this.
00:38:55Ugh, these crackers taste a little stale.
00:38:58Oh, you weren't kidding.
00:38:59Yeah.
00:39:01Ew, there's yogurt all over the place.
00:39:03Didn't mean to know that.
00:39:05And that's why I don't valet park anymore.
00:39:08I just don't trust them.
00:39:09He really gave us the raw files.
00:39:11Yeah.
00:39:12You see, fate was a cruel master for the victims of these senseless crimes.
00:39:17This episode is like no other.
00:39:20As I will finally reveal the truth behind the Rocksteel Killer.
00:39:31That's huge.
00:39:32That is huge.
00:39:33She knew who the Rocksteel Killer was.
00:39:35I mean, it's certainly possible that she could have been killed for what she knew.
00:39:39I just wish we could hear better.
00:39:41These speakers are terrible.
00:39:42Let me work on it.
00:39:44Okay.
00:39:45Well, you know what?
00:39:46In the meantime, we can start putting people up on the board, right?
00:39:48Yeah.
00:39:49I think we can both agree that Wintress has definitely earned her spot on the board.
00:39:53Hard yes.
00:39:54Right?
00:39:55She and Laurel were known to dislike each other.
00:39:57Babe, what is this?
00:39:59What?
00:40:00Okay.
00:40:01Next up, we have Pat, the voiceover artiste.
00:40:06Delightfully suspicious.
00:40:08Katie Hiller, the other true crime podcaster.
00:40:10She should definitely go up there too.
00:40:12Yeah, I mean, she's too young to be TRK, but it doesn't mean she didn't kill Laurel.
00:40:15Could be a copycat.
00:40:16Exactly.
00:40:17Oh, and let us not forget the ever-present studio manager, Nigel.
00:40:22How old do we think this picture is?
00:40:24Oh, before color photos were a thing.
00:40:27So, Nigel found the body, and he was the last person to see Laurel alive.
00:40:32Super suspicious.
00:40:34So, what do we think about Sci-Fi Guy?
00:40:36Yeah, I don't think he could have done it.
00:40:38Guy's such a sweetheart.
00:40:39I know.
00:40:41Besides, Carriagans are notorious pacifists.
00:40:44Hmm?
00:40:45I may catch an episode of Titans Odyssey from time to time.
00:40:48Okay.
00:40:50Alrighty.
00:40:51Got ourselves a board.
00:40:53Got ourselves a board.
00:40:58Come on.
00:41:01Come on.
00:41:04I think you left something in the conference room.
00:41:07Oh.
00:41:08That's a very good deduction, Mom.
00:41:10I mean, Eleanor.
00:41:12I gotta say, you and Alden on the hunt for the Roxdale killer is exciting.
00:41:17Do you really think you can catch him?
00:41:19I don't know.
00:41:20It's just such an old case that I still don't feel like we have the whole story.
00:41:26Well, you've got to work with what's in front of you, step by step.
00:41:30I know perseverance has always opened doors for me.
00:41:34You'll get there.
00:41:39Perseverance.
00:41:43You got this.
00:41:46And tonight, with no new information on the possible return of the Roxdale killer,
00:41:51authorities are asking the public to remain calm but vigilant.
00:41:54Okay, so she said studio one.
00:41:57This is so cool.
00:41:58I mean, we're basically celebrities now.
00:42:00Well, I mean, we're doing one podcast.
00:42:02Oh.
00:42:03I'm a little nervous.
00:42:04Oh, you got this, babe.
00:42:06Remember, I am always on your team.
00:42:07Okay?
00:42:09Katie?
00:42:10Hello?
00:42:11She did say to meet her, right?
00:42:13Studio one.
00:42:15Huh.
00:42:18Something doesn't feel right.
00:42:19What do you mean?
00:42:21I don't know.
00:42:22It's like, eerily quiet.
00:42:27He was just here.
00:42:28He was trying to grab me.
00:42:29I couldn't get away.
00:42:30Who was?
00:42:31The killer.
00:42:32The Roxdale killer.
00:42:34Okay.
00:42:35You're safe now.
00:42:36It's going to be okay.
00:42:37Sounds scary.
00:42:38Okay, Katie.
00:42:39Let's just start with the basics.
00:42:42What do you remember seeing?
00:42:43Well, he was tall.
00:42:46I'd say around six feet.
00:42:49He was wearing a hoodie, but I could see he had brown eyes.
00:42:52He had a low voice.
00:42:54He looked like he was going to say something.
00:42:56He looked like he was going to say something.
00:42:58He looked like he was going to say something.
00:43:00He looked like he was going to say something.
00:43:02He had a low voice, but it wasn't suspiciously low.
00:43:05It was, like, average low.
00:43:07What's average low?
00:43:08Stop talking.
00:43:10What's average low?
00:43:11Keep it locked to WNK channel six, your source for breaking news,
00:43:15and we will bring you that update live.
00:43:17Travis?
00:43:18That was pretty good, hey?
00:43:19Excuse me.
00:43:20I'm so sorry to bother you.
00:43:22I noticed that you have a dash cam on your truck.
00:43:25Yeah?
00:43:27Could I ask you for a huge favor?
00:43:29Yeah, what's up?
00:43:32Okay, you're sure you're all right?
00:43:33Mm-hmm.
00:43:34Okay, I'll tell you what.
00:43:35When you go home, get some rest, come to the station in the morning.
00:43:37We'll have you work with the sketchers, all right?
00:43:39Tom, do you mind if I have a quick private chat with Katie, please?
00:43:42Well, absolutely.
00:43:44Take her away.
00:43:46Okay.
00:43:47Great.
00:43:58I know you didn't see the Roxdale killer.
00:44:00I did see him.
00:44:01He was right here.
00:44:03He grabbed me.
00:44:04I didn't know what to do.
00:44:05Then he ran when he heard you come in.
00:44:08Okay.
00:44:10We can rewind it from right here.
00:44:17That's Nigel leaving.
00:44:20Nobody entered or left the building in the 30 minutes before we arrived
00:44:24or the 15 minutes after.
00:44:26I swear, I saw him.
00:44:28Katie, I'm an attorney and a very good poker player.
00:44:32I know when someone is lying.
00:44:35Well, you have no idea how competitive it is.
00:44:37There are so many true crime podcasts.
00:44:39It's like sometimes I feel like I would do anything to be successful.
00:44:44Look, let me tell you that success at all costs
00:44:49and keeping things from your husband who is now completely obsessed with catching a mouse
00:44:54even though he's the most adorable person you will ever meet
00:44:57is never worth it.
00:45:00How do I get out of this?
00:45:02We tell the truth together.
00:45:04Okay?
00:45:07Okay.
00:45:09Let's go.
00:45:10Let's go.
00:45:27Alden?
00:45:30Alden?
00:45:35Alden?
00:45:37Alden?
00:45:38Alden!
00:45:42What is this thing?
00:45:43It's ground-penetrating radar.
00:45:46I have to protect our castle.
00:45:47That's why I turned away the exterminator.
00:45:49Okay, I cannot believe that I'm saying this, but I think Wintrous is right.
00:45:53We are not in harmony.
00:45:55Oh, come on. You're going to believe that, wingnut?
00:45:57Says the guy with a ground-penetrating radar machine at six in the morning?
00:46:01Well, how else am I supposed to see into the floors?
00:46:04What?
00:46:06Bertie, if we want to catch this mouse, we have to up our game.
00:46:15Okay.
00:46:17You know what? I said I was all in.
00:46:21So, I guess I have to be all in with this, too.
00:46:29Bertie Case, coming to the dark side.
00:46:32We have not been listening to each other, but we are going to start right now.
00:46:37And if we are going to catch said mouse, we are going to do it together.
00:46:48Case style.
00:47:03Okay.
00:47:07Bertie?
00:47:08Oh, hi. Okay, so new plan.
00:47:10These are humane. Nobody has to die on our watch.
00:47:14Pellets, pellets.
00:47:17So, it's a trap.
00:47:19Well, not so much a trap. More like we're trying to contain him,
00:47:22so then we can liberate him amongst his own peeps.
00:47:27Okay. I think I can get on board with this.
00:47:32And now, we just wait and see.
00:47:36In the meantime, I have something to show you.
00:47:39Really?
00:47:41Okay.
00:47:42Okay.
00:47:43Okay. To the desk.
00:47:44Okay.
00:47:45And have a seat.
00:47:47Alright.
00:47:48And...
00:47:51Voila.
00:47:53That is so impressive.
00:47:55I traded some root beer to a roadie for Aerosmith and then he swapped me,
00:47:58because that's actually a really big deal.
00:48:00That sounds on brand.
00:48:01So, you got me thinking when you said that we hadn't been listening to each other.
00:48:06And I realized that we hadn't been listening to the recording of Laurel's murder.
00:48:10I mean, sure, we'd been hearing it, but we hadn't been listening.
00:48:19This episode is like no other,
00:48:21as I will finally reveal the truth behind the Roxdale killer.
00:48:32Wait, wait, wait, did you hear that noise?
00:48:35The thing, right before the footsteps.
00:48:37Yeah, it was like a squeak.
00:48:39It was more like a wheeze.
00:48:41Who do we know that wheezes?
00:48:45Perhaps a certain podcaster who carries an inhaler.
00:48:49Wintress.
00:48:52You know what this means.
00:48:54This allergy season, we're going to have to do some yoga.
00:48:57Yoga.
00:49:16Abe!
00:49:19I told you to dress accordingly.
00:49:21This isn't the semifinals at Wimbledon in 1978.
00:49:24You said hot yoga.
00:49:26Thighs like this, the people want to see them.
00:49:29Take your shoes off.
00:49:32I'm keeping the socks on.
00:49:33Okay, fine, just please don't get hurt, okay?
00:49:35It's going to get really hot in here, and you can slip.
00:49:38I mean, yoga can get dangerous.
00:49:40It's stretching.
00:49:42I think I'm going to be okay.
00:49:46Oh, babe, babe, here she is.
00:49:49Ah.
00:49:52Find your center.
00:49:58And now let's flow.
00:50:01Hmm.
00:50:09Babe, are you okay?
00:50:12Yeah, I'm feeling the flow.
00:50:14And release.
00:50:18We will now go into flow.
00:50:20And get into the garland pose.
00:50:22Oh.
00:50:30So scary.
00:50:31You can't be serious right now.
00:50:33What did they say?
00:50:35You tell them again to fix it.
00:50:39I don't care.
00:50:41Have them print it again.
00:50:44What is the point of paying people when I have to do it all myself?
00:50:52Bounce the wheels.
00:50:53Oh, I know.
00:50:57Fire is F-Y-R-E.
00:51:07Babe.
00:51:10May the healing light of the white fire be with you.
00:51:14Babe.
00:51:15Babe, are you okay?
00:51:17Yoga is surprisingly dangerous.
00:51:22I mean, she's got serious rage issues.
00:51:24Yeah, and her wheeze sounds just like that hissy, squeaky sound on the recording.
00:51:28Like, sss.
00:51:30Okay, okay.
00:51:32Yeah, we heard it on the tape just after Laurel's murder.
00:51:34But I think it's more like a squeak wheeze.
00:51:36It's a squeak wheeze, like...
00:51:38Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, that's good.
00:51:40That's good, but it's a little bit more phlegmy, right?
00:51:42It's like...
00:51:44Oh, that's good, that's good.
00:51:46Oh, yeah, the...
00:51:47Okay, okay, okay, okay.
00:51:48Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
00:51:50Whatever that is, thank you.
00:51:52It wasn't Wintress.
00:51:54What?
00:51:56How?
00:51:57Those aren't for you.
00:51:59Wintress was in the hospital with an asthma attack.
00:52:01Doctors and security footage corroborate her story.
00:52:03I suppose that does sound like a pretty airtight alibi.
00:52:06And could we go back to you guys doing a yoga class on police business?
00:52:10Which is kind of funny, because I thought I asked you to sift through the audio outtakes.
00:52:14I need you two to listen to me.
00:52:16Yes, sir.
00:52:17Tom.
00:52:18Tom.
00:52:19What are those?
00:52:21Laurel's mail. I mean, you guys have so much time on your hands.
00:52:23Feel free.
00:52:25No.
00:52:27And why are your legs so pale?
00:52:29At least I'm not sitting around a desk all day.
00:52:32Where is it you think I do?
00:52:33I don't know.
00:52:34Talk about your hunches or why things don't add up.
00:52:37Tell people, I'll look into that.
00:52:39I don't say that.
00:52:40So Wintress is out. Where are we at with Maxwell Kovac?
00:52:43Uh, we might have got a little distracted with the Wintress theory.
00:52:47Yeah, but you know what?
00:52:48I am going to look at Laurel's previous articles to see if she mentioned him right when we leave here.
00:52:53Okay.
00:52:54And since you're here, look at this.
00:52:58Medical examiner report for Laurel's death.
00:53:00Gunshot wound.
00:53:01She had stage four adenocarcinoma.
00:53:04In her pancreas and lungs.
00:53:06Yeah, so if the gunshot doesn't get her, cancer does in the next two, three months.
00:53:11Well, that might explain the spiritual awakening that Peter mentioned.
00:53:15Oh, that reminds me.
00:53:16Can you see if your records have any mention of the Rocksteel killer leaving notes behind?
00:53:20For some reason, I cannot find any mention of them in the victim files.
00:53:23Sure thing. I'll look into that.
00:53:25Aha!
00:53:26So you do say that.
00:53:29Let's see ourselves out.
00:53:31I had a hunch.
00:53:35Well, I guess we can take Wintress off the board.
00:53:39Okay.
00:53:40I've assembled the brain trust.
00:53:42Gentlemen.
00:53:43And lady.
00:53:44Where do we start?
00:53:45Maxwell Kovac.
00:53:46Okay, I'll start in the past.
00:53:48You start in the present where I left off the other night.
00:53:50Where does he live? Where does he work? Where does he eat?
00:53:52And I will see what Laurel said about him in her articles.
00:53:56It's on it.
00:53:57How many Maxwell Kovacs can there be? It's not that common a name, is it?
00:54:00Oh, here's something.
00:54:02In one of Laurel's early articles about the Rocksteel killer,
00:54:05she talks about the mayor assembling a task force to investigate.
00:54:09The mayor said,
00:54:11we understand the public's fear and are taking this case very seriously.
00:54:15Well, nothing scares the public more than a serial killer on the loose.
00:54:19Nope.
00:54:20And here's something else.
00:54:22A few weeks after that, Laurel wrote another article about missing evidence.
00:54:26She says that Officer Kovac botched the investigation.
00:54:29She calls him out by name.
00:54:31You guys hearing this?
00:54:33The plot thickens.
00:54:35Okay, so a few weeks after that,
00:54:37Officer Maxwell Kovac is let go from the police department.
00:54:42Well, I'd say that's a pretty good reason for someone to hold a grudge against Laurel.
00:54:46That goes on the board.
00:54:48Yep.
00:54:50Welcome to the murder board, Officer Kovac.
00:54:53Okay, boom. Here we go. Got it.
00:54:55Maxwell Kovac.
00:54:57Alright, there's three of them in our area, but only one of them fits the age range.
00:55:00And he lives at the Hampton Hills Assisted Living,
00:55:05a community to live your fullest life.
00:55:08Check out the events calendar.
00:55:11Sit and stretch with Brittany. Party on.
00:55:14Salsa dancing with Vanessa Ramos.
00:55:19I have an idea.
00:55:24Bingo.
00:55:26Hi, Vanessa.
00:55:28Yeah, this is Cara Macomba.
00:55:30I'm the assistant activities director here at Hampton Hills.
00:55:33Unfortunately, we're going to have to cancel salsa class tomorrow
00:55:37due to a leak on the dance floor.
00:55:39I know, I'm so sorry about that.
00:55:42Okay, goodbye, dear.
00:55:44Okay, I have no idea what you're cooking up.
00:55:46I am loving it.
00:55:48Oh, you just wait.
00:55:51Hi, yes, this is Vanessa Ramos.
00:55:53Unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to come and teach salsa class tomorrow,
00:55:57but I do have a replacement.
00:55:59Yeah, she's a wonderful teacher.
00:56:01She actually teaches with her husband.
00:56:03Yes, their names are Bertie and Alden Case.
00:56:06Great, sounds good.
00:56:08They'll be there. Bye-bye.
00:56:11Time to put on your dancing shoes.
00:56:17Trail.
00:56:21Hola, amigos.
00:56:23Buenas tardes.
00:56:25We are here to teach the salsa class.
00:56:29So, who is ready to dance?
00:56:32Oh, yeah.
00:56:34Let's salsa.
00:56:36Yes, okay.
00:56:38Now, we start by picking a partner.
00:56:40Very good, very good.
00:56:42Now, we start with basic steps.
00:56:44Just we go slow.
00:56:46The follower, they go right, left, together.
00:56:49Muy bien. Left, right, together.
00:56:51Very good. Right, left, together.
00:56:53You're doing pretty good.
00:56:55Left, together.
00:56:56We go a little faster.
00:56:58Okay, but only a little faster.
00:57:00And remember to swivel the hips.
00:57:02Porque salsa is all about the hips.
00:57:04A lot of swiveling.
00:57:05Now, you must feel the music.
00:57:07You must feel the steps.
00:57:09I feel it.
00:57:10You want to feel the soul.
00:57:12Yes, everybody feeling it.
00:57:14But don't forget about your partner.
00:57:17Okay, sometimes we dance a solo.
00:57:20She's very passionate.
00:57:25I might have gotten carried away.
00:57:27We got to get out of here.
00:57:28Right.
00:57:29So, what do we do?
00:57:35That's right.
00:57:36It's okay.
00:57:38Very good idea.
00:57:43Oh, this is so fun.
00:57:45Oh, my.
00:57:46Yes.
00:57:47Keep it going.
00:57:48Keep it going.
00:57:49Don't worry.
00:57:50Yes, and feel it.
00:57:52Feel the fun.
00:57:53Make a break for us.
00:57:54Okay, keep feeling the fun.
00:57:56Keep dancing.
00:57:57Bonga, conga.
00:57:59Oh, passion.
00:58:00Oh, baby, passion.
00:58:01Y el corazón.
00:58:02Yes, yes.
00:58:03Okay.
00:58:06Where did you learn to dance like that?
00:58:08My high school spirit dance team.
00:58:11Oh, here we go.
00:58:12Okay.
00:58:13All right, so it should be this floor.
00:58:21There.
00:58:22Hmm?
00:58:30Maxwell Kovac?
00:58:32Is it Halloween already?
00:58:34Actually, we're investigating the murder of Laurel St. James.
00:58:37We were hoping we could ask you a few questions.
00:58:39Come in.
00:58:41Sit down.
00:58:45I hope you guys catch whoever killed her.
00:58:47Oh, yeah?
00:58:48Why is that?
00:58:49So I can thank them.
00:58:50Woman ruined my life.
00:58:51Was it you?
00:58:53I don't get around much anymore.
00:58:56Well, if you didn't kill her, what do you think happened to her?
00:58:58I think she got what was coming to her.
00:59:00Lifetime of stoke in the flames of fear and murder.
00:59:04It's bound to turn out badly.
00:59:05You think the Rocksteel killer is back?
00:59:07I think you guys are chasing a ghost.
00:59:09So you're saying the evidence doesn't match the narrative.
00:59:13The Rocksteel case, it never did.
00:59:15It was a series of murders that we were investigating that was going cold.
00:59:19Next thing you know, there's an article in the paper about some serial killer being on the loose.
00:59:24Written by?
00:59:25Laurel.
00:59:26So wait, you're saying that Laurel was the first person to say that this was the work of a serial killer and not the police?
00:59:33Bingo.
00:59:34We only investigated those murders being linked because of her articles.
00:59:37Seemed like Laurel knew everything about the murders.
00:59:40And then some.
00:59:42Claimed she had some anonymous sources.
00:59:45So I reached out to her, asking for some help.
00:59:48Off the record.
00:59:49I was so naive.
00:59:50Next thing you know, evidence goes missing.
00:59:52She's published an article saying that we bungled the investigation.
00:59:56Wait, you're saying Laurel stole evidence?
00:59:59I couldn't prove it.
01:00:01But now I know she stole it.
01:00:03How do you know that?
01:00:04Because she came here two weeks ago to apologize for it.
01:00:06Apologizing?
01:00:07She made some big song and dance about how she wanted to make amends.
01:00:12What do you think she did with the evidence?
01:00:14I'd guess as good as mine.
01:00:24Hola, señor.
01:00:25Señorita.
01:00:27Babe, do you want turkey or ham?
01:00:29Both, please.
01:00:30Of course.
01:00:31Of course.
01:00:34Well, still no mouse.
01:00:37Aw, just give him time.
01:00:40Time to chew his way through everything I own.
01:00:46Oh, come on.
01:00:48Look at the crossword.
01:00:50Aw.
01:00:51Cinnamon buns, my slippers, the crossword.
01:00:54You know, it's starting to feel personal at this point.
01:01:02And why are your legs so pale?
01:01:04Well, at least we do something other than sit around a desk all day.
01:01:07What is it you think I do?
01:01:09I don't know. Talk about hunches, why things don't add up.
01:01:16Babe.
01:01:21I think our furry friend just gave us a tip.
01:01:23What?
01:01:29Places like this always give me the creeps.
01:01:31This makes sense.
01:01:33Of course Laura would have hidden evidence outside of her own home.
01:01:3719.
01:01:38Here we are.
01:01:39Ah, should have grabbed the bolt cutters.
01:01:41Remind me to add those to the PI car kit.
01:01:43We have a PI car kit?
01:01:44No, it's mostly just snacks at this point, which reminds me, I have to replenish the snacks.
01:01:48I got this one.
01:01:50Mama's got a new bag of tricks.
01:01:52Whoa.
01:01:53Who are you?
01:01:56Okay, so this looks like a job for the rake pick.
01:02:01Whoa.
01:02:02All I gotta do is rake it like this.
01:02:07I have never been more attracted to you than I am at this very moment.
01:02:10I think one of us should know how to pick locks, don't you think?
01:02:12Absolutely. Clearly you got it covered.
01:02:20It worked.
01:02:22Okay.
01:02:23Let's see what we got.
01:02:29Whoa.
01:02:30I thought our basement was messy.
01:02:35Lampshade anyone?
01:02:36Ooh, I'll take two.
01:02:38What do we got in here?
01:02:40Oh.
01:02:42Babe.
01:02:43Yeah?
01:02:44What do you think?
01:02:45Is this my style?
01:02:46Cute.
01:02:47How about this?
01:02:49Should I bring this to your office party next year?
01:02:51Oh, yes.
01:02:52They really bring out your eyes.
01:02:54Are you flirting with me?
01:02:55Maybe.
01:02:59Babe.
01:03:00Hmm?
01:03:01Boxes?
01:03:02Yes, good call.
01:03:05Okay, we have personal, personal, personal.
01:03:11No way, babe.
01:03:13Could this be it?
01:03:14Yes, please.
01:03:17It did not go according to plan.
01:03:22What was the plan?
01:03:23I don't know.
01:03:24They do it in movies all the time.
01:03:25It looks cool.
01:03:26Okay, so we got fingerprints, cigarette butts, pink scarf, and nail clippings.
01:03:36Wait, none of this was in the case files.
01:03:39Laurel definitely stole this evidence.
01:03:42They couldn't run DNA on any of this because Laurel completely halted the investigations.
01:03:48We have to get all this to Tom.
01:03:52What was that?
01:03:54Hold it.
01:03:56Someone's here.
01:03:57Ready to run?
01:03:58Uh, yeah.
01:03:59I mean, I'm in heels, so I can't really go that fast.
01:04:01All right, go, go, go.
01:04:02Okay, got it, got it.
01:04:03Okay, Michael, Michael.
01:04:04I'll be on lookout.
01:04:05Okay, coast is clear.
01:04:07We're good.
01:04:08Shh.
01:04:09Okay.
01:04:11Hold on, hold on.
01:04:16Just another date night.
01:04:17Wouldn't miss it for the world.
01:04:26Well, you guys did the right thing bringing the evidence to me.
01:04:29It's crazy the storage unit was unlocked.
01:04:31Wow, yeah, crazy.
01:04:33What are the chances?
01:04:34Yeah, what are the chances?
01:04:35Anyway, we'll get this to the lab and check it for DNA.
01:04:37If there's a match, we'll find out ASAP.
01:04:39Okay, so this DNA is like 30 years old.
01:04:41Is it still usable?
01:04:42Oh, yeah.
01:04:43Even with trace amounts of DNA, we can track people through their family.
01:04:45Fingers crossed.
01:04:46You know what?
01:04:48We've been going back through all the TRK files.
01:04:50There's absolutely nothing that links these cases aside from all homicides happening near Rocksteel State Park.
01:04:56Wow.
01:04:57Benefits of fresh eyes on a cold case.
01:04:58Thanks.
01:04:59I went through the chain of evidence.
01:05:01No notes were left at any of the crime scenes, despite Laurel's stories.
01:05:04Maxwell Kovac was right.
01:05:06There was never a serial killer.
01:05:08So Laurel fabricated the Rocksteel killer.
01:05:11How is it possible she got away with it all this time?
01:05:14You tell a lie enough times, people will believe it.
01:05:16Okay, but none of this answers who killed Laurel.
01:05:19Well, whoever did kill Laurel certainly wants us to think it was the Rocksteel killer.
01:05:22Huh.
01:05:23Okay, well, throughout this investigation, we have learned that Laurel didn't exactly have a lot of friends.
01:05:32From the people at the podcast studio, and Maxwell Kovac, and her ex-husband, Laurel had a lot of enemies.
01:05:38But who had enough motive to kill her?
01:05:40I'd say inventing a serial killer and perpetuating that lie for 30 years presents way bigger opportunities for motive than some vendetta about stealing someone's yogurt.
01:05:49Yes, yes, maybe her making up the Rocksteel killer is why she was murdered.
01:05:53Ooh, that's an interesting theory.
01:05:55But we've still got to prove it.
01:05:57Oh, guys, if the Rocksteel killer is fake, we've got to tell Kristen.
01:06:02Right.
01:06:05Oh, it's not that kind of intruder.
01:06:09I got this.
01:06:12You're just going to let her go alone?
01:06:13Absolutely.
01:06:14Yep.
01:06:19What?
01:06:26What?
01:06:43Did we get it?
01:06:45Yeah, I saw him, he was...
01:06:49Well, yeah, babe, I saw him.
01:06:52And he saw me.
01:06:54It's horrifying, right?
01:06:55The claws, the fangs.
01:06:57No, no, he means us no harm.
01:06:59I mean, I'm not saying that he spoke to me, but I really feel like we have an understanding.
01:07:05What?
01:07:06Yeah.
01:07:07Okay, on that note, I'm going to get going.
01:07:09I'll see you guys in the morning.
01:07:12This is not going to be fun.
01:07:15Hey, tomorrow, you just be the supportive boyfriend, okay?
01:07:19I'll handle the hard part and tell her.
01:07:22Okay.
01:07:25Okay.
01:07:30That's right where the mouse was.
01:07:35She made up the Roxdale killer with the whole thing?
01:07:40Well, the murders are real, but they're not connected.
01:07:44If Laura was alive, she'd be charged with multiple felonies for competing an investigation, theft.
01:07:52Did you know she was sick?
01:07:53I had no idea.
01:07:56I'm going to have to call my lawyer.
01:08:09You guys are going to hate me.
01:08:11Did you buy that harpoon?
01:08:12No.
01:08:14Well, technically you bought one.
01:08:16I think we need to put Kristen on the board.
01:08:18What?
01:08:19Whoa, dude, she was with us the night of the murder.
01:08:21She was with us earlier that evening. I just, I think we need to look into her more.
01:08:24She potentially had motive if she knew about Laurel's lie.
01:08:27Okay, before we go down this road, have you two at least gone through the hard drive of all of her audio recordings from the studio?
01:08:32Some. I scrubbed through it.
01:08:34Scrubbed through it?
01:08:35Well, it's like a million hours of her eating crackers and outtakes and stuff.
01:08:38Okay, before I bring my girlfriend in for questioning, you need to go through the audio with a fine-tooth comb, no scrubbing.
01:08:45You're right, and that is exactly what we're going to do before we jump to conclusions.
01:08:52Immediately.
01:08:53Okay.
01:09:00When police questioned, no, when police questioned her neighbor, Fauna, what am I talking about?
01:09:07The community muttered through, no, communities don't.
01:09:11Thank you, I needed this so badly. My ears are about to fall off.
01:09:15Well, if this thing doesn't catch that little vermin, I don't know what will.
01:09:19By the way, I appreciate your patience with my nerdiness.
01:09:23All in.
01:09:24Rocksdale State Park is a historic 72-acre park that is home to many varieties of wildlife and fauna.
01:09:32Oh, you can put that right there.
01:09:36Thanks, Katie.
01:09:38Did you hear that?
01:09:39Oh, I heard it.
01:09:40What was that sound? Play that again.
01:09:41Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
01:09:45Oh, you can put that right there.
01:09:49Thanks, Katie.
01:09:51That was it, right? I mean, that was the sound.
01:09:53Okay, now play the murder recording.
01:09:56Okay, got it.
01:09:58You see, fate was a cruel master.
01:10:01We're the victims of these senseless crimes.
01:10:04This episode is like no other, as I will finally reveal the truth behind the Rocksdale killer.
01:10:16That was it. I mean, that's it. That's the same sound.
01:10:19And she clearly identifies the killer. She says Katie.
01:10:21It was Katie. It was Katie. It was Katie. It was right in front of us the whole time. It was Katie.
01:10:25I can't believe it. We just solved Laurel's murder.
01:10:30Tom, we gotta tell Tom. Okay, here, call him.
01:10:34Send him the audio file. Yeah.
01:10:35Okay, hang on. It's right here.
01:10:46Hi, Tom.
01:10:49Why are you doing this to me?
01:10:50We sent you an audio file. We know who killed Laurel.
01:10:54Okay, alright. Okay, I'm up. What do you got?
01:10:58Okay, you were right. We listened to hours and hours of outtakes and the raw footage from Laurel's podcast, and this is what we found.
01:11:04Oh, you can put that right there.
01:11:08Thanks, Katie.
01:11:09That's the sound.
01:11:10I know.
01:11:11And she says thanks, Katie.
01:11:13I know.
01:11:14It all makes sense. Katie had a weak alibi. She faked an attack, and with Laurel gone, she would get to carry the Rocksdale killer baton.
01:11:22Yeah, and Laurel already proved it's a lucrative business. I mean, is that enough motive to kill somebody?
01:11:26Oh, I've seen people killed for far less than a podcast.
01:11:28Like what?
01:11:29I'm not answering that. Well, I can't believe I'm saying this, but great work, you two.
01:11:38Okay, so what now?
01:11:39At least throw on a SWAT vest, roll out in the cruiser, and kick ass.
01:11:42I got a grappling hook.
01:11:43He hung up, babe.
01:11:44Yeah, I can see that.
01:11:46Oh.
01:11:52Katie Hiller.
01:11:54You're under arrest for the murder of Laurel St. James.
01:11:57What? That's crazy. I didn't kill Laurel.
01:11:59You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be held against you in the court of law.
01:12:04This is, this is crazy. I didn't.
01:12:08We solved another one.
01:12:09Yeah. I don't know. Something doesn't feel right about this.
01:12:14What do you mean? You heard the recording. She literally said Katie. Katie had motive, and Katie had opportunity.
01:12:21I guess.
01:12:23Babe, don't guess. It's like we learned in class. We have to follow the evidence, okay?
01:12:27Whatever narrative you've convinced yourself of is not based on the hard facts and evidence.
01:12:33You're right. You're right. Probably just tired.
01:12:37Two for two.
01:12:38Oof.
01:12:46To a closed case. To catching a bad guy. Cheers.
01:12:51I'm actually still on the clock, so. But I do have good news.
01:12:54Oh, it's about time.
01:12:55We found DNA on the three items you got from Laurel's storage unit. We're running it to CODIS right now.
01:12:59Oh, that's fantastic.
01:13:00So now that Laurel's murderer is behind bars, what's next?
01:13:03Oh, we are still on another case.
01:13:07Oh, the goat cheese. You're gonna love it.
01:13:10Wow.
01:13:14Let me ask you something, Tom. You ever, you ever wrap up a case and still feel like something's bugging you?
01:13:20Yeah, but I've learned to take the win.
01:13:24Hey, you solved it.
01:13:26I've learned to take the win. Hey, you solved it. Katie's the killer.
01:13:32Look, they always say they're innocent initially, right?
01:13:36Initially.
01:13:38What?
01:13:40You just, you said initially.
01:13:42Yeah?
01:13:44Initially. Initials.
01:13:48Initials, initials. Katie's initials.
01:13:51Katie?
01:13:53Katie?
01:13:57It was you.
01:13:58What?
01:14:00It was Kristen who killed Laurel.
01:14:02Alden!
01:14:03Whoa, dude, not cool, man.
01:14:05Yeah, this is not how we keep friends, dude.
01:14:07Why should I trust in my gut? Why didn't I trust my gut? My gut is always right, except when it comes to dairy.
01:14:10The audio clearly said Katie.
01:14:12No, no, no. She didn't say, thank you, Katie. She said, thank you, K-D, as in Kristen Duckburn.
01:14:19Okay, Alden.
01:14:20I saw the inscription that she wrote you in her book. She used your initials.
01:14:24K-D.
01:14:27Babe, she's got Laurel St. James' book.
01:14:31Oh, it's signed.
01:14:33Nice.
01:14:35You were with me at my house that night. I, I couldn't have done it.
01:14:39Yeah, we were, but the murder didn't happen until later. We were long gone by then.
01:14:43Yeah, yeah. Wait, wait, wait. This makes sense.
01:14:45You must have already known that Laurel made up the Rocksteel killer before we told you.
01:14:51And if the truth came out, your business would be completely ruined.
01:14:54And if Laurel made amends with her ex-husband, and that, and that Maxwell Kovacs guy she threw under the bus,
01:14:58I bet she also made amends to the one person she screwed over.
01:15:03You.
01:15:05Honey, can you please tell them that they're being ridiculous?
01:15:09Actually, I want you to answer it.
01:15:11Yeah, answer the question.
01:15:12I'll ask the question.
01:15:13Oh, like good cop, bad cop? No, not like good cop.
01:15:15Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
01:15:17You said it yourself. Laurel was the one who lied.
01:15:21She lied to me. She lied to everyone.
01:15:24Hey, yeah, I, I went to the studio one night to see her.
01:15:27She told me that she had terminal cancer and she wanted to clear her conscience.
01:15:32She was going to tell the truth on the last episode.
01:15:34I begged her not to, but she didn't listen.
01:15:40Okay, calm down.
01:15:41No, stop it!
01:15:42She didn't listen.
01:15:46Okay, calm down.
01:15:47No, stop talking! I didn't have a choice!
01:15:49Okay!
01:15:52What about the squeaky sound on the recording? What was that?
01:15:55What?
01:15:56It was the keychain.
01:15:58It was the rubber duck keychain that gave you away.
01:16:02You know, getting inside without anybody seeing me, it was pretty easy.
01:16:05I knew what Laurel was going to do, but I could not let her completely destroy my family's legacy.
01:16:11No, but then that stupid duck squeaked!
01:16:17Whoa, whoa.
01:16:18How are you going to explain shooting all three of us?
01:16:20Yeah, you might get two of us at best.
01:16:22Dude!
01:16:23Birdie, haven't you heard? There's a serial killer on the loose.
01:16:27Whoa, whoa, whoa! No, no, no! Shoot me! Shoot me! Shoot me!
01:16:31Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
01:16:34Ah!
01:16:38Ah! Ah!
01:16:42Yeah, well, guess what, honey? You're under arrest for the murder of Laurel St. James.
01:16:49I thought we were friends!
01:16:50Shut up, Birdie!
01:16:51Okay.
01:16:57I totally should have been Valedictorian.
01:17:00We still don't have any good couple friends.
01:17:03Bye-bye, ducky.
01:17:04Hey, I just wanted to say, even though you two drive me nuts, you especially.
01:17:08Fair.
01:17:09You did good. So, thank you.
01:17:13And, who knows? Maybe we'll call you again.
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01:17:34Uh, you know, you two were lucky you found each other.
01:17:38Sure.
01:17:42So lucky.
01:17:50Weldon, look!
01:17:55Go.
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01:18:04Go.
01:18:18It worked!
01:18:23Look, he's eating.
01:18:26Hey, buddy. Thanks for your help.
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