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Why is Govt Afraid of Election Audit? Chaudhry Ghulam Hussain & Hassan Ayub's Analysis
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00:00Viewers, Khawaja Asif is worried about one more thing, that he might get arrested.
00:06The Election Commission has also been sitting for two days, and as you know, the letter written by Speaker Ayaan Sadiq is not being able to make a decision on it.
00:13Because there are news that if on 26th, the current Chief Justice, the senior penal judge, becomes the Chief Justice,
00:21then the decision written by him is that he should implement it.
00:25And those who don't implement it will also face consequences. So, what is the problem? What is the problem, Mr. Khawaja, please listen to what he has to say.
00:33Election can be audited, or this system can be permanently terminated through it. What is that statement, what is its context?
00:42When this decision came, was it the decision of 8-5?
00:47The majority decision of 8 judges.
00:50Majority decision, this is a matter of time. So, in that, the PTI people said a lot of nonsense.
00:58That they portrayed this thing or this decision as their victory.
01:03The structure of that decision, the structure of that decision, I had said at that time too,
01:12that this is leading to something much more sinister.
01:17So, in that context, I said yesterday too that this possibility is there.
01:25And this PTI said a lot of nonsense at that time too.
01:28But even now, they express this confidence that let this 25th pass.
01:34So, after that, sit down, sit down.
01:37Mr. Chaudhary Ghulam Sain, you are laughing, you are not talking today.
01:45You finish the talk in one or two sentences.
01:48Let me ask two or three questions together, answer them one by one.
01:51Is the constitutional amendment taking place?
01:54Will the Chief Justice, who has to be elected on 26th, be with all the powers?
02:00Because according to Hassan, he doubts. It is difficult.
02:04Mr. Naqvi thinks that he will become. There is no problem in this.
02:08Your assessment, your experience, what does your news say about this?
02:13The news is that they are hell-bent.
02:17They want to destroy the Supreme Court and the courts.
02:23They want to break them into pieces and make their own conclusions.
02:27Even though their plans will not be successful,
02:31it is also about the Constitutional Court.
02:35Judges have to be transferred.
02:37And they want to make another amendment,
02:40that the government official or the retired judge cannot fight the elections for two years.
02:45That has to be finished.
02:47That the day someone wants to fight, he can fight.
02:49So, they have many such dramas.
02:53And they are not alone.
02:55So, I am saying that wait a little for them.
02:58Whatever they do, it falls into their necks.
03:02What they were doing a week ago, they were beating them.
03:05What they are doing in Peshawar today,
03:08they should have hidden their faces there.
03:11Today, they are sitting at the feet of the same chief minister,
03:16asking him to handle everything.
03:18So, he was crying earlier that this is our province,
03:21this is our country,
03:23we should save it together and avoid bloodshed.
03:28At that time, he was very angry.
03:31K.P. House has been sealed.
03:33Has anyone understood that I should go and seal Gujarat House?
03:37What is going on?
03:39The decision has come today.
03:41It has been sealed, but its lease has expired.
03:43How long has it been?
03:45It has been desealed.
03:47They have renewed Sindh's lease.
03:50They have noticed Punjab.
03:52K.P. has said that I will come back.
03:55Hassan, you said that the same constitution that they had shared,
03:58will remain the same.
04:00If I am not wrong, in that constitution,
04:02they have changed it in Article 8.
04:04Did they share anything with you?
04:06I talked to them.
04:07They said that there are no military courts.
04:09They specifically asked,
04:11they said that there are no human rights issues.
04:13So, they have issued you the same 3-4 big things.
04:16K.P. has said that there is a constitutional court.
04:20There is no bench issue.
04:22There will be a separate court.
04:24Secondly,
04:26if there is a court,
04:28there will be a chief justice.
04:30Secondly, the judicial commission that is being formed,
04:33there will be equal representation
04:35of the government and opposition members.
04:37That was done in Article 18.
04:39They will do it that way.
04:41Thirdly, there will be accountability of the judges.
04:44There will be a mechanism for that.
04:46And regarding the transfer law,
04:48I believe I have not asked them or told them.
04:50But what I want to make important is that,
04:52Mr. Chaudhary and all of you say that,
04:55the way the government is running right now,
04:58their intention is that,
05:00there should not be an audit of elections.
05:02So, for the audit of elections,
05:04the first thing,
05:06the first forum to challenge someone,
05:08is the election tribunal.
05:10The Supreme Court runs like the mirror of Pakistan.
05:12Even if the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court,
05:14does not want to take up the issue,
05:16he cannot do it.
05:18He can.
05:20He can.
05:22He can do it.
05:24He can do it.
05:26The election tribunal is like the mirror of Pakistan.
05:28Do not.
05:30In the mirror of Pakistan,
05:32you will remember,
05:34yesterday, a respected former Chief Justice,
05:36who was a Chief Justice of Islamabad High Court,
05:38he is an educated person.
05:40What did he say in the Supreme Court?
05:42Mr. Hassan, you have your own opinion.
05:44It is absolutely respectable for us.
05:46I am talking about the mirror of Pakistan.
05:48The judge of Pakistan,
05:50the honourable sitting of the Supreme Court,
05:52what is he saying?
05:54Maybe he did not read the mirror of Pakistan.
05:56Maybe he is an uneducated person.
05:58The most important petition,
06:00that is pending in this court,
06:02is regarding the alleged irregularities,
06:04on 8th of February elections.
06:06It is known to everyone.
06:08It is a very, very serious and fundamental issue.
06:10If the constitution has to be upheld,
06:12then it is our duty
06:14to also ensure that
06:16there was no political engineering,
06:18the elections were genuine.
06:20If they were not genuine,
06:22then I am afraid,
06:24the constitution has also been violated,
06:26and we would also be violating our oaths.
06:36We will take a short break.

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