鶴瓶ちゃんとサワコちゃん～昭和の大先輩とおかしな２人～ 2024年10月7日 【#24 いつまでもカッコイイ昭和の大先輩SP】
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00:00What are you doing?
00:02I'm happy.
00:04Tsurube-chan and Sawako-chan are inviting guests for the end of the year.
00:08When I was on the phone, I said,
00:10Wait a minute.
00:12I just said it.
00:14This program started in October 2023.
00:19Up to now, 22 great seniors have appeared.
00:24I heard a lot of valuable stories that can only be heard here.
00:29My heart was full.
00:32I put a lot of things in my heart.
00:35It was a scandal.
00:37There were a lot of things to do.
00:39There were a lot of things to do.
00:41Yuu-chan is doing a lot of things.
00:44And tonight,
00:46The great senior special of Showa that is always cool.
00:51Tsurube-chan and Sawako-chan.
00:54Six great seniors of Showa and two strange people.
01:01First of all,
01:05Mr. Shiro Ito.
01:09Benjamin Ito is very popular on TV shows.
01:17The response at this time was terrible.
01:21It wasn't like this from the beginning.
01:24When I was doing the family content,
01:27Mr. Sanshi.
01:29He is now a samurai.
01:31I did a series of ad-libs.
01:35It's not like this.
01:37In normal clothes.
01:39The only thing that made me laugh was
01:42The producer said,
01:43This looks interesting, so let's make it independent.
01:46Mr. Ito, think about it.
01:48This is the only thing that made me laugh.
01:51I drew this costume on the back of the script.
01:55I put on all the makeup.
01:57Did Mr. Ito come up with all this?
01:59That's right.
02:00So did Mr. Kotatsu.
02:02Benjamin Ito.
02:03Benjamin Ito.
02:05I heard you took it from a wild plant in your house.
02:07It's a wild plant.
02:09It's twisted.
02:11I'm going to go with a twisted family.
02:14And when I say Ito,
02:16I feel sorry for him.
02:18While I'm saying Benjamin,
02:20I think this program will end.
02:22If I did it, it would have been a ridiculous story.
02:25It was amazing.
02:26Mr. Sanshi was the first to say,
02:28Densen-ni.
02:30I remember that.
02:32Is that so?
02:33But the laughter in Tokyo
02:36In Kansai,
02:37I can't watch that much.
02:39There was a layer.
02:40You can watch this program.
02:42Benjamin Ito.
02:43This program was very popular.
02:45Mr. Ito,
02:46You played Benjamin Ito and Densen-ni.
02:50You didn't talk about that when you got home, did you?
02:53That's right.
02:54My son, my son-in-law, is an actor.
02:58He was an actor.
02:59He was in kindergarten at that time.
03:01He was in kindergarten?
03:02I was watching the program.
03:03Benjamin was watching it, too.
03:05But Benjamin didn't know that his father was doing it.
03:12When I got home,
03:14He said,
03:15It's very similar.
03:18He said,
03:19Dad,
03:20Why don't you dance Densen-ni here?
03:23I said,
03:24I can't help it.
03:25I danced like this.
03:26At home.
03:27I danced like this.
03:29He said,
03:30That's good.
03:31It's different.
03:33He got a strange guarantee.
03:36That's how close we were.
03:38He didn't find out.
03:39After that,
03:40When you had to go to the public recording,
03:42I had an older brother.
03:43He brought me to the public recording.
03:45An older brother?
03:46He's an actor.
03:48He's my brother.
03:50Did you come to see your father as a brother?
03:52That's right.
03:53I came to see him.
03:55I didn't know he was coming.
03:57You didn't know?
03:58I asked him if he wanted to dance with me.
04:00He came out right in front of me.
04:04He said,
04:05I turned blue.
04:07That's when you noticed.
04:08I didn't think my son would come out.
04:13He danced better than I did.
04:16I lost my position.
04:19But at that time,
04:20There were a lot of people in the entertainment world.
04:23You saw that, didn't you?
04:24Benjamin.
04:25I think I saw it.
04:27And then,
04:28I heard my eyes were gone.
04:32There was someone who was really worried about me.
04:36At some party,
04:38Makoto Fujita was there.
04:41He took me to the side of the elevator.
04:45He said,
04:46Are you all right?
04:48He was seriously worried about me.
04:51He said,
04:52Benjamin's eyes are gone.
04:54Is he all right?
04:56I thought you were out of your mind.
04:58At that time,
04:59There wasn't anyone who could go that far.
05:03Not even in Kansai?
05:04Not at all.
05:05He's already gone.
05:09He's already gone.
05:10He's on top of the Kotatsu.
05:12All elementary school students all over the country are doing it.
05:14That's right.
05:15From PTA,
05:16I was told,
05:17It's a confession program.
05:19I was told,
05:20Stop it.
05:21Did you get angry at Hibari Misora?
05:25That's right.
05:26I went to the singing program.
05:29I was doing it at the same time.
05:32At that time,
05:33Hibari was on stage.
05:34I said,
05:35Shiro-chan,
05:36Can you stop dancing on that Kotatsu?
05:40My son is on it.
05:41If he breaks the Kotatsu board,
05:43I can't help it.
05:47In such a place.
05:48If you think about it,
05:50It's an honor for Mr. Hibari to be told that.
05:52That's right.
05:54At that time,
05:55I felt sorry for him.
05:57So I said,
05:58Let's finish it quickly.
06:00I thought it would be better
06:02to finish it quickly.
06:04I don't want to finish it after this.
06:06I see.
06:08I'm a little miserable.
06:10That's why Benjamin is still called Benjamin.
06:14If it was like this,
06:15You wouldn't say it.
06:16I think so.
06:18It's just too stupid.
06:21When it happened.
06:22It's true that this eye is a little gone.
06:25It's gone.
06:27It's gone.
06:28It's funny because it's gone.
06:30It's a little scary to see now.
06:35Such a great senior in Showa.
06:38From Mr. Itoshiro.
06:40The words of life.
06:44Laughter is life.
06:48Itoshiro.
06:53Next.
06:58Mr. Gin Maeda.
07:01Three years after his debut as an actor.
07:04I met Director Yoji Yamada.
07:08I auditioned for a movie called Slave Factory.
07:11Originally, Chi Takeo was supposed to do it.
07:14The same period.
07:15The same period.
07:16Chi Takeo is an actor.
07:19After the shooting of the movie Slave Factory,
07:22He was the main character.
07:25He was the main character?
07:26Yes.
07:27I was accepted.
07:30Dozens or hundreds of people.
07:32Is it your first time?
07:33It's like my debut.
07:35That's amazing.
07:37So there.
07:38At the press conference for the movie.
07:41I was waiting for the president of the production company at the entrance.
07:47I didn't make it to the press conference.
07:49I was waiting at the entrance.
07:52Mr. Yoji Yamada passed by.
07:55I said,
07:56Director, please.
07:57The president of the production company showed me the movie Slave Factory.
08:01It's a world-wide story that the staff makes a combination.
08:07The director saw it.
08:09In the end, Mr. Tora was a school teacher.
08:12His name is Hiroshi.
08:13Really?
08:14Really.
08:15He changed it to the staff.
08:18Originally, he was a school teacher.
08:22He made it the same as Slave Factory.
08:25I thought it was perfect for a play.
08:27Did you make it for Mr. Sakura's husband?
08:29Yes.
08:30It's also connected to Yamaguchi Prefecture.
08:33The director is from Yamaguchi Prefecture.
08:35He's from Yamaguchi Prefecture?
08:36Yes.
08:37When I was called,
08:40Mr. Sakura, Mr. Yoji, and his wife were already acting.
08:44The camera was sitting.
08:46I visited them.
08:48When I talked to the staff and the director in the dining room,
08:53they said,
08:54You're from Yamaguchi Prefecture, right?
08:55Yes, I am.
08:56While talking about Yamaguchi Prefecture,
08:58I thought,
08:59Oh, it's decided.
09:02Is that how it feels?
09:04I felt like that.
09:06He has a great ability to live.
09:09He has a different way of thinking.
09:12I thought it was decided.
09:14I thought it was decided.
09:16I heard that Mr. Yamada was very strict on the set.
09:22He's strict with men.
09:24He's strict with men.
09:26When I watch Yamada's works,
09:29women shine.
09:32Men shine there.
09:35Mr. Tora is different.
09:37Yamada's group is strict.
09:41In the end, we can't put out a lot of Maeda Gin.
09:48In the role.
09:50Maeda Gin is about 20%,
09:53and Hiroshi is about 80%.
09:57I don't like it unless it's Hiroshi.
10:01He's in a different movie.
10:05He's in a different drama.
10:07He's in a different one.
10:10What do you think is necessary for Hiroshi?
10:15I don't know, but I think it's necessary.
10:18You don't know how to fix it?
10:20I don't know.
10:21At first, I walked up the stairs on the second floor.
10:29I just glanced at the window in front of Sakura.
10:33I did it for three hours.
10:35Three hours.
10:37How was your relationship with Mr. Atsumi?
10:40Mr. Atsumi was very kind to me.
10:44Mr. Katsu, Mr. Takakura, and Mr. Koichi Tsuruta.
10:50I've worked with almost all of them.
10:54Mr. Atsumi had a charm that other stars don't have.
11:00What do you mean?
11:02He was very different.
11:05Did he change since he was young?
11:07Yes, he did.
11:08When I went to a coffee shop,
11:10I was wondering if I should go with him.
11:14If I was invited to a coffee shop,
11:17I would go alone.
11:19He said,
11:20Oh, really?
11:22I asked him if there was a good ramen shop nearby.
11:27He said,
11:28Sanmai is good.
11:29I said,
11:30Oh, really?
11:31Let's have lunch there.
11:33He asked me if I wanted to go with him.
11:36I said,
11:37Oh, I'm fine.
11:39I'm going alone.
11:40He was like that.
11:42He likes to be alone.
11:44I had to make him think.
11:46I was in a bad mood.
11:49Mr. Atsumi?
11:50Yes.
11:51I asked him if he watched Superman.
11:54He said,
11:55Yes, I watched it.
11:56Superman doesn't fly.
12:01I was like,
12:02He said,
12:03Yes, he does.
12:04He said,
12:05No, he doesn't fly.
12:07The conversation stopped.
12:10I said,
12:11Superman doesn't fly.
12:13I expected him to laugh at the theater.
12:20I expected him to say something funny.
12:27Ordinary people.
12:29I went to a sushi restaurant by taxi.
12:35I stopped at a sushi restaurant.
12:39I asked a driver to buy a special sushi.
12:45I ate in the taxi.
12:50I didn't go to a restaurant.
12:52If you go to a restaurant,
12:54I think you'll say something funny.
12:57I think you'll do it in the atmosphere of Mr. Tora.
13:02There are a lot of roles to attack from here.
13:05There are a lot of roles to receive from Mr. Maeda.
13:09I have to take in all the lines of the other person.
13:16It's stressful.
13:17It's stressful.
13:19Sakura taught me how to catch a ball.
13:24What do you mean?
13:25It's a practice.
13:26When I go to the set,
13:29I don't have a seat next to the set.
13:35I have a table and a chair.
13:37When I go there and sit down,
13:39I start talking.
13:43I don't say,
13:44Let's do it.
13:45I don't say,
13:46Let's do it.
13:47I keep talking.
13:48I don't say,
13:49Good morning.
13:50What did you do yesterday?
13:51I don't say anything at all.
13:52I have to talk right away.
13:53You need to match your face.
13:54I had to match my face.
13:55I had to match my facial expression.
13:57I also had to match Mr. Yoshioka's facial expression.
14:01I had to match everyone's facial expression.
14:03I had to match my facial expression.
14:06Sakura told me what to do for Mr. Tora.
14:09Sakura told you what to do for Mr. Tora.
14:12Yes, he told me that while reading a book.
14:14So, all of you practice on the field?
14:16Yes, we practice.
14:17And more than we practiced, Mr. Atsumi was in it 200% of the time.
14:23So the most interesting part was the test.
14:26Mr. Yamada, as you know, the test starts at 9 o'clock, but it starts at 10.30.
14:32For the first test, they go through one scene until the end.
14:38Some people hold the script and do it, some don't.
14:44Mr. Atsumi didn't hold the script, but he was the most interesting.
14:51Because he was in it 200%.
14:53He was in it, and he made everyone confused.
14:59He did interesting things.
15:03The words of life from the great senior of Showa, Mr. Gin Maeda.
15:14Peace be with you, Mr. Gin Maeda.
15:22The behind-the-scenes story of the women of Iwashita Island.
15:28They all had tattoos, and they were naked.
15:32I thought they were real.
15:36When I called them, they said,
15:38Oh, it's a hand.
15:41You have to express yourself as you cross.
15:45Oh, it's a hand.
15:46It would have been nice if it was a real hand.
15:54The great senior of Showa, who is always cool.
15:58Next is Mr. Gin Maeda.
16:05At the age of 15, he joined Toho Gendai Geki, and his life as an entertainer began.
16:13You were in many musicals.
16:17I didn't decide to be in a musical.
16:21The first one was a musical called No Strings.
16:25I was 15 when I joined.
16:28I was 18 when I took the role.
16:31At that time, you were determined to go with this.
16:34No, I didn't mean that at all.
16:37When I was in junior high school, there was a dance club.
16:41I danced there.
16:44I don't know why, but I played a song called Godan of Okoto.
16:49I was wearing a kimono, but I was doing ballet.
16:53That's your own performance.
16:56That's right.
16:57You have to raise your legs in ballet, right?
17:00What happens if you raise your legs in kimono?
17:02I'm a little out of place.
17:05That's why I took the lead.
17:09A junior high school student raises his legs in a kimono dance.
17:13That's a novel idea.
17:16Do you still have it?
17:18I wish I had it.
17:20I had a picture of me in a kimono.
17:24Did you want to stand on stage and do something?
17:28As soon as I stood on stage, the audience applauded me.
17:33I was a junior high school student.
17:36There were classmates, teachers, and seniors.
17:41I felt good.
17:44I felt comfortable.
17:46I felt like I was here.
17:50That's where your desire came from.
17:53Did you want to be a prima donna in classical ballet?
17:56Yes, that was my dream.
17:59My seniors were in the S.K.B.
18:05I wanted to do it, too.
18:08That's why I wanted to come to Tokyo.
18:11There was a man named Kansan Horiuchi, the father of Gen Horiuchi.
18:16He was a dancer at a bar in Shinbashi.
18:21I went there and started dancing.
18:27How old were you?
18:29I was about 16 years old.
18:32Did you get scouted?
18:35The person who introduced me was a celebrity.
18:42He wanted to be a manager.
18:46I read an essay by Kazuo Kikuta.
18:51He said that in a few years, half-Japanese children will come to Japan.
19:00The manager read the essay.
19:03He said, I have a half-Japanese child, so please meet me.
19:07He was a great person.
19:09I happened to have an audition for a musical.
19:16My teacher was there.
19:19She asked me to participate.
19:21She asked me to wear a swimsuit or ballet training clothes.
19:27I didn't have a beautiful swimsuit.
19:31I wore a leotard when I went to the ballet practice.
19:37She bought me a high heel and a belt in Ginza.
19:42She stopped me and told me to go out.
19:45There were a lot of people wearing swimsuits.
19:48For some reason, I won first place.
19:51What did you do then?
19:53There were eight circles on the stage.
19:58She told me to express myself while crossing the circle.
20:04Until I crossed the circle, I did ballet.
20:08I did pirouette.
20:10I did an ensemble.
20:14It was an ad-lib.
20:16At the end, she asked me to speak.
20:19She said, your voice is small.
20:21You have a big body, but your voice is small.
20:25I said yes.
20:27When I spoke, I realized that I had a voice.
20:30That's a ballerina's voice.
20:32I was very surprised.
20:35I didn't know I would be taken to such a place.
20:38I didn't know about the audition.
20:40When I realized it, I passed the audition on the stage.
20:44I went to high school for three or four years.
20:48I was taught by Ms. Kikuta.
20:51Was she strict?
20:52She was strict.
20:54In the first year of high school,
20:57I was separated from the people who went to the theater and the people who went to the stage.
21:02She told me that I was already on the stage.
21:05When I met her in the elevator at the Imperial Theater,
21:11she asked me if I wanted to join the Takarazuka.
21:16What?
21:18I had seen Takarazuka once.
21:21I told her I didn't want to join.
21:24Now that I think about it, she didn't even test me.
21:29I was in the middle of Otori Ran and Asami Rei.
21:33Takarazuka's top star is a great person who can be seen by the world.
21:41There was Mayuzami in Takarazuka.
21:44What would have happened if I had joined Takarazuka?
21:47What would have happened?
21:49You said you didn't want to join.
21:51Yes.
21:52I said it very clearly that I didn't want to join.
21:55When I saw Ms. Kikuta's role in Mr. Mori's play,
22:02I thought she was an interesting person.
22:05She has a small beard.
22:08She is a person who acts while eating sweets,
22:14so I told her to play the role of taking the sweets.
22:18You told her to play the role of taking the sweets.
22:21It wasn't just sweets.
22:23It was peanuts.
22:24I was the daughter who took the peanuts.
22:28But you wanted her to remember it.
22:30That's right.
22:31I told her to sell herself.
22:35But I couldn't do that.
22:39I don't know why, but I wanted to go home as soon as possible.
22:44Why did you tell her that?
22:46I told her that she was a person who talks like this.
22:51I was a little scared.
22:54But she gave me a lot of opportunities.
22:58In the movie called Shuchakueki,
23:02I played a role in a coffee shop in the platform of Shuchakueki.
23:08I made my own lines and said,
23:11if it goes well, I'll hire you.
23:14You made your own lines and acted by yourself.
23:17My heart was full,
23:20so I put a lot of things in my heart.
23:23I got a hat and came back from shopping.
23:27I thought I was a great actress.
23:29Did you think about it yourself?
23:30I thought about it myself.
23:31I was walking.
23:33Your heart was full.
23:34Then Mr. Bokushi, who was sitting in front of me,
23:38said, I'll make it milk.
23:42We formed a group and made it together.
23:47I even got a small award at that time.
23:51I was praised by Mr. Hikuta.
23:54By Mr. Hikuta?
23:55Yes.
23:56I have such a memory.
24:00A great senior in the Showa era.
24:03The words of life from Mr. Bibari Maeda.
24:08Let's live positively.
24:11Bibari Maeda
24:17Next.
24:22Shibasa Iwashita.
24:26She married director Masahiro Shinoda.
24:31Let's hear the story.
24:35I didn't want to get married until I was 30.
24:41I didn't want to be bound by others.
24:44When I was dancing at the party,
24:47Shinoda came to me.
24:50I never thought I loved him.
24:54To a man?
24:56No, to him.
24:58To Mr. Shinoda.
25:00You met him many times.
25:03Yes, I did.
25:05I went to drink with him.
25:08Did you drink a lot?
25:10Yes, I did.
25:12How much?
25:13Two bottles.
25:14What did you do?
25:16Two bottles?
25:18Two bottles in one bottle?
25:20One bottle per person.
25:22We drank a lot.
25:25Did you get drunk?
25:27We didn't get drunk.
25:30We said, thank you.
25:32We only talked about the movie.
25:35You went home seriously.
25:37Yes, I did.
25:39Only when I was drunk.
25:41When you were drunk?
25:43I went to my room while dancing.
25:46No, no, no.
25:48Why?
25:50The director led me to my room.
25:56When I was drunk,
25:59when I was dancing,
26:01I thought I wanted to marry him.
26:05Inspiration?
26:07Yes, inspiration.
26:09I never thought of marriage.
26:11You didn't like him?
26:13No, I didn't.
26:15I didn't care what he liked.
26:18I just wanted to marry him.
26:21I see.
26:23You said that to the director.
26:28You said that?
26:30Yes.
26:32I said, I feel like I'm going to marry you.
26:36I feel like I'm going to marry the director.
26:39The director must be happy.
26:41No, he got angry.
26:43Why did he get angry?
26:45He got angry and went back to his seat.
26:51When I asked him why,
26:54he said it was because I was a virgin.
26:57A virgin woman was dancing with a man.
27:01He was asking her out.
27:03What does it mean to seduce a man?
27:06She was a bad girl.
27:09He got angry.
27:11He got angry?
27:13Was he cold for a while?
27:16Then he went to Europe for a trip.
27:22He got angry and wrote me a letter.
27:26He was a good man, but his writing was a mess.
27:34I was upset.
27:37When he came back, he bought me a handbag as a souvenir.
27:42That's a perfect love letter.
27:46He kept saying, I feel like I'm going to marry you.
27:50I'll never forget it.
27:52You said it suddenly.
27:54I'll never forget it.
27:56You remember every time you dance.
27:58I'll never forget it.
28:00At that time, the actress was retired.
28:04Retired?
28:06Yes, she was retired.
28:08But she didn't retire.
28:10Director Shinoda told her to continue acting.
28:14Yes.
28:16He wanted to become a bigger actress by getting married.
28:26He told me to do more after I got married.
28:36Shima Iwashita appeared in the film, and the world was surprised.
28:44When was it?
28:46I went to the beach with my family.
28:49There was a person who looked like me.
28:52We all had our nails done.
28:54We were naked.
28:56There was a parasol next to us.
29:00I thought I was acting in this world.
29:04I was a little scared.
29:06Was it before the shooting started?
29:09Yes, before the shooting started.
29:11I was at a loss.
29:13When you came to Osaka, there were people like that.
29:17Yes.
29:19I was greeted by a real person on the bullet train.
29:24How?
29:26I stood up and was greeted.
29:29I thought I had seen him somewhere.
29:33He had the same hairstyle as me.
29:37With Mr. Iwashita?
29:39He had the same earrings as me.
29:43I thought he was a real person.
29:47I said hello to him politely.
29:52There were five or six times.
29:56He was happy.
29:58He was a big fan, so he imitated him.
30:01In addition, due to the appearance of these women,
30:06Mr. Iwashita's daily life has changed.
30:10He often said,
30:12Wate, wate.
30:15When I called him, he said,
30:18Wate, wate.
30:20Wate, wate.
30:22He was surprised.
30:23Yes.
30:24Mr. Shima?
30:26He said,
30:28Even at home?
30:30When I suddenly noticed,
30:33he was drinking milk on his knees.
30:37That's bad.
30:39And Mr. Shinoda said,
30:42His wife must be scared.
30:45He went to the bar more than once.
30:50When you entered the studio,
30:52everyone was in a line.
30:54Yes.
30:55When I entered the studio,
30:57the director of the Gosha
30:59put all the women in a line
31:02and lined them up at the entrance.
31:05In that costume?
31:06Yes.
31:07And he said,
31:08Good morning.
31:11So I was like,
31:12What?
31:13in the morning.
31:14Before the camera started rolling?
31:16It was easy to make up my mind.
31:19Like,
31:20Good morning.
31:21Good morning.
31:22You're funny.
31:28Such a great senior in Showa.
31:31The words of life from Mr. Shima Iwashita.
31:37Love gives birth to love.
31:41Shima Iwashita
31:47And after this.
31:49I was drinking with Yu-chan.
31:52It was a scandal.
31:56Mr. Akira Kobayashi.
31:58There are more and more surprises.
32:04A great senior in Showa who is always cool.
32:08Next is
32:12Mr. Nobuyasu Okabayashi.
32:16Mr. Okabayashi was born to his father, a carpenter.
32:22He told me such an interesting story.
32:27He's a son of a carpenter,
32:29so he can't do bad things at school, right?
32:31When I was in high school,
32:33everyone was so excited
32:35and went to see erotic movies.
32:37But he didn't invite only me.
32:40He invited his friends.
32:42He's a son of a carpenter.
32:44He shouldn't invite me to such a place.
32:47He's under 18 years old.
32:49Didn't you try to do bad things by yourself?
32:52I couldn't do that either.
32:54When did you watch erotic movies?
32:57I watched erotic movies.
32:59You saw it, right?
33:01I saw it.
33:02There was an interesting story in the movie.
33:04What is it?
33:05I thought I'd go see a Kyoto erotic movie.
33:09I went into the theater.
33:12It was when I was called the god of fortune.
33:16I went into the theater.
33:18I watched the movie.
33:20When I came out of the theater,
33:22a man came to me.
33:24He said,
33:26I saw Mr. Okabayashi enter the theater.
33:33I thought it was my chance.
33:35So I went to the stationery store,
33:37bought some erotic books,
33:39and waited for him to come out.
33:41There was nothing embarrassing.
33:44What did you write?
33:46Did you sign?
33:47Yes.
33:48Do you remember the title of the movie?
33:51No, I don't.
33:52I'm sure you do.
33:54What was it about?
33:56It was a similar story.
33:59Didn't you feel disappointed?
34:02No, I didn't.
34:03Even though you were the god of fortune?
34:05I was happy.
34:06I wanted to see this erotic movie even though I was a god.
34:10Even though you were a god?
34:12I wanted to see this erotic movie even though I was a god.
34:17Did you go to the strip theater?
34:20Yes, I did.
34:21It was my first time.
34:23I went to the strip theater.
34:25I drank alcohol.
34:27I wondered what I had been doing.
34:30Did you wake up?
34:31Yes, I did.
34:32I tried so hard.
34:34I tied myself up.
34:37You became a good boy.
34:39Yes, I became a good boy.
34:41There is no way that a man like me can save people.
34:46I felt like I was going to die.
34:50I felt like I was going to die.
34:53I thought it would be nice if I could express my feelings in a song.
35:01I thought it would be nice if I could express my feelings in a song.
35:05Then, the movie was a big hit.
35:07It was a big hit.
35:09It's not a story about people.
35:11That hit was the only song I sang.
35:14What did you do when you were worshipped by the god of folk music?
35:20Did you feel happy?
35:22I went to see erotic movies secretly.
35:27I went to see erotic movies secretly.
35:29I was depressed.
35:31I was depressed.
35:33I was depressed because I was worshiped by the god of folk music.
35:37When I stopped worshipping and sang, I became a god again.
35:43You did well.
35:46You did well.
35:48Were you happy when you got a hit?
35:50I wasn't happy at all.
35:52You weren't happy at all?
35:53I was not happy at all.
35:55But you sang a good song.
35:56I sang a good song.
35:57You sang a good song.
35:59Really good song.
36:00Why did you write a song if you did that?
36:03It would have been popular.
36:05I wish I was an actor.
36:07That's right.
36:10Mr. Hibari wanted to sing the song Mr. Okabayashi wrote in the 1950s.
36:18You were very happy that Mr. Hibari caught it, weren't you?
36:22I was really happy.
36:24It was Mr. Hibari that day.
36:26Even if it didn't sell well, he recorded two songs for me.
36:31What songs?
36:33The Great Success and The Moon and the Wind.
36:38What was your image of Mr. Hibari until then?
36:41I hated him.
36:43He was a singer of a genre I hated.
36:47I had an image that he was a bad singer.
36:52But he was a good singer.
36:55He was funny.
36:57He was kind.
36:59He cared about me.
37:01One day, I went to Izumiya Shigeru.
37:04The three of us drank together.
37:07It was annoying, so I told him to stay.
37:10There were three futons.
37:13Izumiya and I were sleeping.
37:16Mr. Hibari said,
37:18I'm going to sleep here, too.
37:20I fell asleep.
37:22I asked Izumiya,
37:24What are you going to do?
37:26Where did you sleep?
37:28On the bridge.
37:30Which bridge?
37:32Izumiya, me, and Mr. Hibari.
37:34You slept next to each other.
37:36What were you going to do?
37:38It would be weird if you fell asleep.
37:40Your hands might overlap.
37:42I was so nervous that I couldn't sleep.
37:45I was so drunk that I fell asleep.
37:48He was such a good person.
37:52People might think so from the outside.
37:56But it's not like that.
37:58It's different when you see it up close.
38:00He said,
38:02I was lonely because he did this.
38:05He did the same thing.
38:07He said,
38:09Maybe that's how we got along.
38:12It's a completely different way of doing things.
38:16The words of life from Okabayashi Nobuyasu,
38:20a great senior in Showa.
38:24Flowers bloom and wither.
38:28Let's enjoy ourselves as much as we can.
38:32Okabayashi Nobuyasu
38:38After this,
38:40It's going to be a scandal.
38:42It's going to be crazy.
38:44A legendary meeting with his best friend, Yujiro Ishihara.
38:48We went out to drink.
38:50Every night.
38:51Every night?
38:52Okabayashi Nobuyasu
38:55A great senior in Showa who is always cool.
39:00Who is he going to decorate the bird with?
39:05Akira Kobayashi
39:09Let's talk about his best friend, Yujiro Ishihara.
39:14When Akira Kobayashi was active,
39:17Was Yujiro Ishihara a little older than you?
39:20Older than me.
39:21Older than you?
39:22What about the movie?
39:24It was a year before I joined the company.
39:28He was a year later.
39:30I joined in the Showa 30s.
39:33After the training,
39:35I started shooting a few youth movies.
39:38I thought I could do it.
39:40When I was recognized,
39:42In 1932,
39:44In the season of the sun,
39:46Suddenly,
39:48I was treated like a god.
39:50Suddenly, you became a star.
39:52The whole company was amazing.
39:54Ishihara, Shintaro, and his brother.
39:57They drew me in front of them.
39:59Like a celebrity.
40:01They said I had a good style.
40:03It was a big scam.
40:04Did you really have long legs?
40:06It wasn't much different from us.
40:09Was it frustrating for you?
40:12It was amazing to be sold.
40:16I thought it was amazing.
40:19It's amazing to be treated like that.
40:24It's amazing to be treated like this.
40:27I want everyone to know that it's possible.
40:31But for us,
40:33Ishihara Yujiro, Kobayashi Akira,
40:36It's like a wall.
40:39In fact, Kobayashi Akira and Ishihara Yujiro
40:45One is the charm of low temperature,
40:47The other is the charm of high temperature.
40:49I pretended to combine them.
40:51I was angry.
40:53I didn't want to do that.
40:55I'm Kobayashi Akira.
40:57No, I'm Yujiro.
40:59It's the world of low temperature.
41:02It's like Mr. Nagashima and Mr. Oh.
41:06Actually, they were on good terms, but they were made like rivals.
41:09Were you on good terms?
41:10We were on good terms.
41:12I didn't have time to go out with him.
41:15But we talked about alcohol.
41:18Did you go out to drink?
41:20I went out to drink every night.
41:22Every night?
41:23I went to Ginza or Akasaka.
41:27I went to Shinbashi.
41:29I met him somewhere.
41:31In the middle of Ginza,
41:33I drank with Yu-chan until 12 o'clock.
41:37I said,
41:39Let's go to Kyoto tomorrow.
41:41Where did you go?
41:43Kyoto.
41:44Kyoto?
41:46I said,
41:48Let's go.
41:50We went to Tokyo together.
41:53It was a scandal.
41:55There was a mountain.
41:57I was in the mountain with Yu-chan.
42:01At that time, there was a caravan.
42:05Yu-chan had a sports car,
42:07and I had a Japanese car.
42:09Akira had a Japanese car,
42:11and I had a sports car.
42:13We were on good terms.
42:15You protected him.
42:17I was kind to him.
42:18That's the only thing I did.
42:20It was New Year's Eve.
42:22Yujiro was on the sea side,
42:24and I was on the mountain side.
42:26We rented a hotel room.
42:29We had a lot of trouble on New Year's Eve.
42:33You rented a room?
42:35Yes, we rented a hotel room.
42:37You were on the mountain side.
42:39Yes, I was on the mountain side.
42:41People who do that now
42:43think that the times have changed.
42:45If you want to do it, you can do it.
42:47If you do it, you can do it.
42:49That's what people say.
42:53Akira Kobayashi was successful as a singer.
42:58Why did he choose to work as an actor?
43:04I was an actor,
43:06but I didn't know how to sing.
43:08I didn't have a good voice.
43:10I didn't have a good voice.
43:12I didn't have a good voice.
43:14I had a good voice.
43:16I didn't have a good voice.
43:18I sang all my life.
43:21I always took care of the lyrics and melody.
43:26I sang all my life.
43:28I had a dinner show in Hokkaido 4 to 5 days ago.
43:31What did you sing?
43:33I sang 20 songs.
43:3520 songs?
43:37I sang my own songs.
43:39I've never sung other people's songs.
43:42You have a lot of hit songs.
43:45I always sang my own songs.
43:47I went to the hotel for a dinner show.
43:50The manager said,
43:52Thank you so much.
43:54I was so happy.
43:56I cried.
43:58I was so happy.
44:00I was so happy.
44:02Some people left the hotel crying.
44:05I was so happy.
44:07When you sing, your heart moves.
44:10What is your heart?
44:12I happened to be in a movie.
44:14I was in a movie with Kota Ishiro.
44:16I was in a movie with Kota Ishiro.
44:18I was a school friend of Kota Ishiro.
44:20I was a school friend of Kota Ishiro.
44:22I made a movie with Kota Ishiro.
44:24Is that the movie you made?
44:26I was a bad friend.
44:28I taught him a lot of things.
44:30I taught him a lot of things.
44:32I taught him a lot of things.
44:34During the cleaning scene,
44:36During the cleaning scene,
44:38I was wiping the hallway.
44:40I was wiping the hallway.
44:42The director told me,
44:44I was a good singer.
44:46I was a good singer.
44:48I was a good singer.
44:50I was a good singer.
44:52I was a good singer.
44:54I was a good singer.
44:56I was a good singer.
44:58I was a good singer.
45:00I was a good singer.
45:02I was a good singer.
45:04I was a good singer.
45:06I was a good singer.
45:08I was a good singer.
45:10I was a good singer.
45:12I was a good singer.
45:14I was a good singer.
45:16I was a good singer.
45:18I was a good singer.
45:20I was a good singer.
45:22I was a good singer.
45:24I was a good singer.
45:26I was a good singer.
45:28I was a good singer.
45:30I was a good singer.
45:32I was a good singer.
45:34I was a good singer.
45:36I was a good singer.
45:38I was a good singer.
45:40I was a good singer.
45:42I was a good singer.
45:44I was a good singer.
45:46I was a good singer.
45:48I was a good singer.
45:50I was a good singer.
45:52I was a good singer.
45:54I was a good singer.
45:56I was a good singer.
45:58I was a good singer.
46:00I was a good singer.
46:02I was a good singer.
46:04I was a good singer.
46:06I was a good singer.
46:08That would be theexplosion.
46:10That would be theexplosion.
46:12I thought.
46:14What if I sang a lot?
46:16I thought.
46:18I thought.
46:20I thought.
46:22So,
46:24so,
46:26so,
46:28so,
46:30So you can sing?
46:32I thought.
46:34I thought.
46:36Didn't you want to quit being a singer?
46:38Didn't you want to be just a singer?
46:40Both were interesting.
46:42Were they?
46:44But what Mabu-chan was saying,
46:48Akira-san, it's such a waste.
46:50If Akira-san could do a bit of Korobe's work,
46:55we could have made it to the top five in the club.
46:58It's a fact that I couldn't get over that mystery.
47:02Ah, I see.
47:04But when Kitajima-san came out,
47:07I thought, ah, so this is what it's like.
47:09I thought, so this is what it's like to be a singer.
47:11That's when I understood.
47:13Have you ever talked to Kitajima-san about that?
47:17Not really.
47:18Ah, you haven't.
47:20He's a great junior.
47:23He's a great senior.
47:26I've known him in Korobe for 37 years.
47:28That's a long time.
47:31He's like a junior to me.
47:35That's true.
47:37Kaiba-kun said this,
47:39but at first, Kaiba Yuzo used honorifics to talk to me.
47:46When it came to my birthday,
47:49in 2012 and 2013,
47:51Kaiba-kun said he was a year older than me.
47:55From that moment on, he said,
47:57I'm your senior.
47:59Your attitude changed suddenly.
48:01What?
48:02It changed suddenly.
48:03That's the world.
48:05I replied,
48:07you've been known as Kaiba Yuzo since you joined in the 40s.
48:11You don't understand, do you?
48:13I've been playing the guitar since the 30s.
48:15It's been 10 years.
48:17That kind of battle is funny.
48:19Then I shut up.
48:21Of course.
48:23The great senior of the Showa era,
48:26Akira Kobayashi's words of life.
48:32Life is iron.
48:34It's iron.
48:36Akira Kobayashi.
48:43Tsurube-chan and Sawako-chan of the future.
48:46Masaaki Sakai.
48:48What are you guys doing?
48:50We're in a band.
48:52Masaaki Sakai.
48:56I asked, who are you?
48:58He said,
49:00I'm Koura-sensei, Inoi-sensei.
49:04This is bad.
49:06Feel free to love.
49:08BS-12 Duel-Bi.