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00:00The afternoon panel of the second day of the National Festival of Civil Economy
00:04is about the forms of participation and governance on energy.
00:09Let's say that we can use the geothermal energy for this,
00:13because it is an energy that is in Tuscany, that is sustainable, that is renewable
00:18and can meet the energy transition needs of the period.
00:24Why in our country is it so difficult to start the ECER?
00:28It is difficult to start because they are not well explained,
00:31because there was no possibility to explain them,
00:34because people think that it is to pay less bills,
00:41instead it is nothing of all this.
00:44It is a great opportunity for participation,
00:47where incentives go to the community
00:51and the community then adopts a regulation that distributes them.
00:56And here is the strength of the ECER.
00:59A respectful ECER of the families in need
01:03will distribute a large amount of these incentives to those who struggle to pay the bills.
01:10At the Italian level we are trying to follow the indications
01:13that are given to us by the European Commission and the European Parliament
01:17and therefore we are trying to decline the objectives of the 2030 Agenda at the Italian level.
01:22We have very challenging objectives,
01:25in the sense that we have to add a lot of power from renewable sources
01:29to try to reach the goals of decarbonization by 2030,
01:33about 80 gigawatts of new power.
01:36It is clear that in order to do this,
01:39it is necessary that all the actors that have been involved so far,
01:42therefore the great industrial subjects, continue to be involved,
01:45but it is not enough.
01:47We have the need for all those subjects to be involved,
01:50who have always been passive subjects.
01:53Is it possible to change the cultural paradigm
01:56so that all the actors realize that they are active rather than passive?
02:00It is not easy.
02:02Let's say that everyone has to do their part.
02:05The legislator has to provide the rules and incentives to facilitate participation.
02:10Those who do research have to look for the most interesting initiatives
02:15and try to spread them.
02:18We citizens have to get up from the couch,
02:21and we have to do it the right way.
02:24There is one thing that has worked very well for me.
02:27When the disaster happened in Ukraine,
02:30the price has skyrocketed,
02:33compared to what we were used to.
02:36That summer, the photovoltaic panels were sold out.
02:39Why?
02:42Because we felt the need to intervene.
02:45What we have to do is try to bring that need,
02:48not only in emergency situations but also in everyday life,
02:51to participate in the transition.