El empresario y político Roberto García Moritán enfrenta una denuncia por la supuesta contratación irregular de más de 300 empleados en el Ministerio de Desarrollo Económico.
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00:00beyond the chats that are going to be known for the supposed reason,
00:05it escalated into another issue for Roberto García Moritán.
00:09Look, I read you the financial field.
00:11They denounce Roberto García Moritán for misappropriation of funds.
00:15It is for the supposed irregular hiring of more than 300 employees
00:19of the Ministry of Economic Development, where he is.
00:23In other words, it is already something worse in justice
00:27of what has to do with what we can publish with the title
00:32in a magazine of the show.
00:37Look, here the issue, I am with Moritán in a place
00:44that the operations go and come.
00:46He is being, let's say, the recipient of all the operations.
00:50Because today, for example, it was published in the morning
00:55that he owes more than two million pesos in patents for the car.
00:59Yes.
01:00Do you know?
01:01Do you count the ribs?
01:02Yes.
01:03Yes, he went to the bakery and took two more biscuits.
01:06So, let's see, who does not have a default and defeat
01:10in some of all the taxes that today they throw you,
01:13they shake your head.
01:14Who does not?
01:15For me, what rains me of defeats and things,
01:18taxes that I did not even know existed.
01:20Yes, yes.
01:21It is an impressive thing.
01:22Every day with the update, the indexation,
01:26everything you want to imagine.
01:28Fortune, what I am paying at the tax level.
01:31And it must be a bit what happens to people too.
01:34Totally.
01:35Moritán stopped the patent issue and now malversation.
01:38He is going to eat all the candies and all the chupetines
01:42that for a while, for the fact of having next to him
01:45a popular figure like Pampita, they all looked to the other side.
01:49But that also condemned him.
01:51The visibility and popularity that Pampita gave him,
01:54this generated, let's say, an issue of attention and expectation
01:58on the part of the outside world,
02:00that now that Pampita took away the blessing,
02:05now he was left alone, as he was before.
02:07Nothing more than now he has the visibility that remained
02:10of that marriage that for a while they kept.
02:13Let's see, I think Pampita, for me, I'm going to say an atrocity,
02:19I think that Pampita, infidelity, he banked it.
02:22If it existed.
02:24What was not banked was the issue of malversation.
02:27And he says it in one of his chats, where he says that
02:30when he saw in a program the one of Mariano Yese
02:34and the one of Martín Candalá,
02:36rebelling against all the irregularities that Moritán suspected,
02:39he did not bank it.
02:41He said, so...
02:42Corruption was the limit, you say.
02:44I approach, let's say, a figure that was going to be questioned,
02:47and it is even complicated to have to go to declare at some point.
02:50You look, Guille, and Luis, that there is even a rumor
02:53that there would be a raid in the house of Pampita,
02:56where Moritán lived until recently, on this cause of malversation.
03:00Is this a correct version, Luis, or not?
03:05I don't know, I don't know.
03:07Here everything is correct and everything is incorrect.
03:09For example, it was stated that Pampita,
03:12in the middle of this personal, family and marital vendaval,
03:16had arranged with the production of Susana Jiménez to go to the program.
03:19She herself, in a chat, dismissed everything.
03:22That there had been, that there had been no approach to any TV producer,
03:26that she had never been negotiating with Susana.
03:29But, let's see, from a distance, where you do not fit any question,
03:33when you upload to chat,
03:35it is because you want to make a press conference without questions.
03:38That is, you say what you want, no one can question you.
03:41Now, you say that Pampita is a PYME,
03:44it is a company, it is a man, and that, of course, associated with this ...
03:47And he is taking care of his ass, if he is not going to come to take care of it.
03:51He is taking care of himself, he is taking care of his children,
03:54that he is going to mess it up, right?
03:57Like Nata, you see, Nata became lucid again
04:00when she went to see the judge and said,
04:03this is like this, this is like that.
04:05If she didn't speak, she could have issued a statement,
04:07she didn't do it at the time.
04:09How many days was Nata hospitalized?
04:11She could have issued a statement, if she wanted this to end,
04:14she could have done it.
04:16Obviously, either she was not as lucid as she was when she went to the judge,
04:19or she didn't want to do it.
04:21What happens, of course, in the middle of this vendaval,
04:23where Pampita sells and a lot,
04:26it was even said that, for example,
04:28Susana had asked for a TV show.
04:30Yes, yes, yes.
04:34But, stop, it is true, or Pampita too?
04:38Because poor Pampita is not going to go out and deny everything.
04:41Who am I going to ask?
04:43I'm going to ask Telefe, and Telefe is going to say,
04:45no, no, that situation did not exist.
04:47Pampita, how much did she ask?
04:51What fortune did Susana ask to go to the show?
04:53Pampita is denying it to you.
04:55If you go to ask Telefe, you will not be left out.
04:57Yes, yes, we offered her, but she didn't want to.
05:00No one is going to put their face.
05:02It may be, but Pampita has been offered many driving shows,
05:05and in recent years she has dedicated them to traveling
05:07and even productions abroad.
05:09It would have to be something recorded,
05:11not permanent or daily,
05:13because she has been receiving this since last year
05:15and has decided or not, and has worked in Uruguay
05:17and other places, right Luis?
05:19Yes, as it is, as it is, but each one,
05:23this is a, this, let's see,
05:25working many times is a game of tricks,
05:28where you maybe have the width of a sword
05:30and you send the vale 4 or the retrick,
05:33you send it with the width of a sword,
05:35knowing that you have it, the rival does not know,
05:37or you have a 4 of cups and you scream and you lie,
05:40but the rival goes to the deck,
05:43because he is afraid that you have the wide strong.
05:47This is the same,
05:49here they live playing the trick all the time,
05:52I want vale 4, I want lack of envy and trick,
05:54they scream at you, they scream at you,
05:56and many times they also induce to have a posture
05:59in front of the media
06:01so that they have another look
06:03with respect to your trajectory, your place, your program,
06:06or your family itself.
06:08Do you say that in the case of Moritán
06:11there is a use for a political operation?
06:15Listen to me, you saw,
06:17we in the afternoon there with Masocco,
06:20we have a chronicler who is a pitbull,
06:23I call him the pitbull, Oliver,
06:25the other day we hooked him to Moritán
06:28in a restaurant near the canal,
06:30we took the camera,
06:32in the restaurant he said that Moritán was not there,
06:35he was not there,
06:37and on the phone I told him to stay there
06:39because he is upstairs in the private room,
06:41finally they summoned him to the exit.
06:43Old wolf in the tunnel.
06:45How? Oliver,
06:47he even asks you the caracu,
06:50Moritán began to realize that they were playing with him,
06:54at a certain moment,
06:56he has two very serious mistakes,
06:59first, if the guy was separated,
07:02he wanted to sell the image that he was still married,
07:05and then he shows him the alliance
07:08that he has of marriage with Pampita,
07:10and Pampita says that on the 20th they are separated,
07:13first mistake.
07:15Second mistake,
07:17trying to take away the relevance,
07:21let's say, of his divorce with Pampita,
07:24says that his projects
07:27in the ministry where he is,
07:29were much more important than his family,
07:32this annoyed Pampita,
07:34what a fucking Japanese,
07:36how?
07:37on top of that,
07:38the work is more important than the family,
07:41and there the mess is made,
07:44there he went to Thailand,
07:46grabbed his daughter,
07:47said, bye Pinela,
07:48I'm leaving for a month,
07:49well, you take care of everything,
07:51when I come back I hope I solve it.
07:53Sure,
07:54there is a colleague who tells me
07:55that there were three conversations with Pampita,
07:57confirmed by a producer of Susana,
08:00in off,
08:02this is,
08:03for the program to go,
08:04or so that later I have a program?
08:06I ask the source very close to Telefe,
08:09but hey, now they are going to answer me,
08:12but,
08:13I tell you, of course,
08:15everything is worth it,
08:17right?
08:18Guillermo, Guillermo,
08:20you are Telefe,
08:22you call Pampita,
08:24you tell him to come,
08:25to have his program,
08:26to have 10 pesos,
08:28come to the Susana program,
08:30you have to boost a program that is being launched,
08:33I don't miss it,
08:34I am a producer,
08:35the first call is to Pampita.
08:37Yes,
08:38yes,
08:39yes,
08:40it's the moment,
08:41it's the moment,
08:42for this Sunday to go,
08:43he tells me,
08:44that there were three,
08:45that there were conversations,
08:46for it to go,
08:47but hey,
08:48now they are writing to me,
08:49but yes,
08:50obvious,
08:51it's the moment to,
08:52look at what,
08:53the son of Castro,
08:54Cristian Castro,
08:55Cristian Castro,
08:56Cristian Castro,
08:57with the couple,
08:58and the puppy,
08:59the puppy,
09:00the plush,
09:01the plush,
09:02because the other one gave it away,
09:03of course,
09:04on Friday,
09:05thank you,
09:06eh,
09:07eh,
09:08on Friday,
09:09the possibility was lowered,
09:10for Susana's program to go,
09:11and on Saturday,
09:12she publishes the chats,
09:13yes,
09:14I don't remember that,
09:15I don't remember,
09:16yes,
09:17Pampita uploads the chats,
09:18on Saturday,
09:19aha,
09:20from August,
09:21until,
09:22until,
09:23until Sunday,
09:24yes,
09:25yes,
09:26until Sunday,
09:27until Sunday,
09:28and she leaves it,
09:29to real secrecy,
09:30of course,
09:31for me she had,
09:32Corita,
09:33Corita was a partner with Pampita,
09:34she was with everything,
09:35in detail,
09:36I said,
09:37the program is yours,
09:38Corita,
09:39do it.
09:40Of course,
09:41what happens is,
09:42let me see,
09:43what Alvaro just said,
09:44is not minor,
09:45if,
09:46because one thing is,
09:47a separation,
09:48and another thing is,
09:49a flooring,
09:50because from this,
09:51Well, you said it, beyond what could have been a case of infidelity or not is the issue of politics and some spurious questions about which Moritan...
10:03But imagine the one behind the walls, Guillermo, you at home with your family, with your children, everything, they ring the doorbell,
10:11yes, look, we are from the criminal justice, we come to fill the apartment, you are with your child drinking mate.
10:18The kids are going to ask you, Dad, what is this? Or Mom, what is this?
10:23And you go to live with a guy who gets into your bedroom and checks you under the bed, lifts the pillow,
10:29checks if the walls are hollow, if there is a safe, you understand? Where are they going to look?
10:35Well, Esmeralda Mitre recounts, precisely in all this pulsing that there is, that at a certain moment,
10:43they went to look, to look, to look, and they felt that the wall was hollow,
10:47precisely because it had to do with the inheritance and the will that Bartolo Mitre had left,
10:53and with a mass they broke a wall and found that there was a strong box inside the wall.
10:58So imagine, you are with your family, and they try to break the wall,
11:03and you have the whole family there with you, and what do you explain to your children,
11:09what do you explain to your partner, what do you explain to the people?
11:13Yes, no, no, of course, of course. What I say is that when the issue takes legal roots,
11:19it is no longer just a news of the show, no, that's what I'm going for.
11:24And for the story of Pampita, she doesn't like that, she doesn't feel comfortable.
11:27Look at the numbers, look at the numbers of the programs that took the subject of Pampita to Moritán,
11:32look at the measurement numbers, you realize what people choose to see and hear.
11:37And well, according to what everyone tells you, it gives the feeling that Pampita,
11:43in reality, the two criteria that you mention, made an explosion to finally divorce.
11:51Because we, at the Martin Fierro Luis party, everyone saw Pampita García Moritán
11:56and it gave the feeling that everything was fine.
11:59Yes, yes, perfect.
12:01According to the brand Pampita.
12:04Tell me, what is the real civil status of Wanda right now?
12:09No idea.
12:11She's separated, she's with Icardi, she says she's separated.
12:15Her lawyer goes out to say that she got a divorce,
12:19and Icardi goes out to say that he's with Wanda, and you don't know.
12:25And in the middle, Wanda launches her program.
12:28So you don't know if she's fantasizing, telling you stories, or if it's really what's going on.
12:33Because then she appears on the night of Buenos Aires,
12:37she appears in nightclubs with candelabras, they go in the same car,
12:44and they are telling you that they are separated, and at the same time they are dating.
12:48So which one do you believe?
12:50Well, here it is defined.
12:52Here, yes, there is already a separation, because she herself already manifests it,
12:55putting a date, September 20 or 21, with the chats, and what was the day-to-day and her relationship.
12:59Beyond what happened, that the Martín Ferros were together.
13:02I believe the same, but let's wait.
13:04Yes, let's see.
13:07What they tell me is that Moritán raised his income.