En una audiencia por Zoom, las abogadas de Mauro Icardi se presentaron para discutir temas legales relacionados con la familia. A pesar de la ausencia de Mauro, el juez decidió continuar con la sesión. Se abordaron temas como la exclusión del hogar y las restricciones legales en torno a la comunicación entre las partes involucradas. La situación sigue siendo delicada, y se mantiene un acuerdo de confidencialidad sobre los detalles específicos discutidos en los tribunales.
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00:00to have on the other side with whom to talk.
00:03We were received by the Secretary, the Defender of Minors,
00:06the lawyers of Mauro were introduced.
00:10I'm sorry that Mauro didn't show up
00:12because it was a Zoom audience to edit.
00:14I don't hear you, can you hear me?
00:16I can hear you, let's see, Flor, can you hear me?
00:18Hi, Anita, how are you? Salve Florencia.
00:21How are you, how are you?
00:23Hi, very well, we can hear you.
00:25No, what I celebrate is that it has been done,
00:27sorry, what I celebrate fundamentally is that
00:30despite the fact that they have asked that the hearing
00:33not be held today, the judge did not take place
00:35and the hearing was taken.
00:37The two lawyers of Icardi were present,
00:40Dr. Marco Vecchio and Dr. Guadalupe Guerrero,
00:45with whom I have a very good relationship.
00:48I heard something out there.
00:50Why do you think it was not held
00:51instead of having asked to postpone it?
00:53Because it is a serious situation.
00:54How?
00:55They were fighting, sorry, Joanna, I said it, sorry.
00:57I thought they were fighting.
00:59No, no, bad information, Tauro.
01:01We never fight.
01:03Besides, I don't fight with colleagues.
01:05Obviously, we each have our t-shirt.
01:07We defend at all costs the interests of our clients,
01:10but in no way do I fight with colleagues.
01:13And maximum when, in short, here what we want to preserve
01:16is that ...
01:17The minors.
01:18What was always said, which is the family
01:21and fundamentally the minors,
01:23that a precautionary measure had just come out,
01:25which was requested by us yesterday,
01:28taking into account that many things were said,
01:31for example, that the boys had heard the discussion, the fight,
01:35and the truth is that this is all a lie.
01:37Wanda at all times preserved the boys,
01:39all five of them equally.
01:41Ana, is it true that you were in some of the fights
01:46and that you closed a safe for Mauro Icardi
01:49so that he would not take any money?
01:51Did that happen?
01:53That, let's say, the most violent fight
01:56Mauro would have had with you?
02:00No.
02:03No, the famous issue is that clients divorce me.
02:06No, I don't divorce clients.
02:08No, the police were there at all times.
02:10Yes.
02:11There was a very uncomfortable situation, of course,
02:13that the police witnessed.
02:15What I asked Mauro for a security issue,
02:20a backup issue,
02:22so that the money that was being shown
02:26would not be seen.
02:28But why did the police have to intervene, Ana?
02:31Could you solve it among the three of you?
02:36Well, beyond what I can't say,
02:39because an absolute confidentiality was signed
02:41regarding the facts that motivated it,
02:43the only thing I can tell you as an attenuant
02:46is that when the judge notified Mr. Icardi of a measure,
02:52it was the police who notified him, of course,
02:54because that's how it was ordered.
02:56I went after I had been notified
02:59to ask him not to make any scandal
03:01and that everything was developed within the maximum
03:04peace, tranquility, preservation of the family core,
03:08beyond divorce, separation and so on.
03:11First, because I understand that for you it is news.
03:14Why did you want to say that?
03:16Because you thought something could happen
03:18knowing the couple?
03:22No, I knew things that had already happened,
03:25but I repeat, all this has been handled
03:27with a lot of confidentiality.
03:29You don't know anything.
03:30But I asked you what you said.
03:32It's good what Juan Pinto asked you.
03:34Because I was telling Maria Fran Chino this morning.
03:36Ah, you also told me.
03:38But what I didn't know,
03:40but that's why it's good.
03:42What Analia told me, sorry,
03:44because otherwise I'm like a fool,
03:46what Analia told me is that he would have hit his head
03:48and that's where he reacted strongly.
03:50When Ana wanted to close the safe.
03:52And you wanted to close the safe
03:54and that she would have told you,
03:56he would have told you,
03:58in another country you would have ended up in prison
04:00because you got into the house like that.
04:02No, no, please, he never told me that.
04:06And there were at least 15 police officers
04:12Ah, he told me, 10 police officers.
04:14Yes, 10 police officers.
04:15Now, why so many police officers?
04:17That was criticized a lot,
04:18because knowing what insecurity is in the city of Buenos Aires,
04:20that 15 police officers go for a call at 9-11,
04:23where in the end there was not even gender violence,
04:25a little exaggerated.
04:26There were two calls.
04:27There were two calls.
04:28There were two calls at 9-11.
04:30Why two?
04:31But anyway, I repeat.
04:33Why two, Ana?
04:34Because there were two.
04:35From you?
04:36First, because there were two.
04:38No, first it was one,
04:40me looking at the situation,
04:42I had to make a call,
04:43and then Wanda crying and screaming.
04:45And why were you there, Ana?
04:46I repeat.
04:47That is not understood.
04:48Please,
04:50precisely because of something that you will not understand
04:53because you are not reading or going to read for now,
04:55what the judge ordered.
04:57But sorry, why were you there yesterday?
04:59I mean that.
05:00No, let her leave the house.
05:02No, before yesterday.
05:04What was asked,
05:05well, before yesterday, sorry for the times,
05:06what was asked in today's hearing
05:08was the exclusion of Icardi's home,
05:09that Icardi cannot return to the Libertador Chateau.
05:11The issue I ask you,
05:12why were you in the place of the facts
05:14if nothing had happened?
05:16It was a call from Wanda,
05:17there was previous violence,
05:18what happened?
05:19That you are present in that place.
05:21Many things happened that you do not know,
05:26because Wanda,
05:27to preserve family peace,
05:29did not want them to transcend.
05:31And today we signed with the lawyers
05:34that they are not going to transcend the facts that motivated.
05:36But regardless of that,
05:38I agree with you and informatively.
05:40It was clear when you said it,
05:41that you were there so that no conflict was generated,
05:47to preserve peace.
05:49The order that the judge had ordered at that time,
05:51the order that the judge had signed at that time,
05:54that Wanda had to return to the home
05:57from which she had been thrown.
05:59On Monday night.
06:00So for that she did have to have lettered assistance.
06:02Ah, perfect.
06:03Of course, because many things were said.
06:05You know more than I do.
06:06But know, know you.
06:08Annie, I would like to be able to understand
06:12if you tell us in detail what you can.
06:17This happened, it would have happened on Tuesday.
06:21Wednesday night.
06:22No, when she goes with Wanda.
06:24Wednesday.
06:25On Wednesday, sorry.
06:27First of all, I'm going to tell you
06:29and I'm going to repeat until I get tired,
06:31that we agreed with the lawyers to say
06:33that everything that is going to happen,
06:35is going to happen in the trial file.
06:37Beyond, beyond that you, of course,
06:40following the life of Wanda and Mauro,
06:43a life so exposed, so public,
06:45obviously you are not going to ignore
06:47and ask questions.
06:48But the truth is that when Mauro returns from Turkey,
06:51he did not have the exclusion of the home.
06:53When Mauro comes from Turkey,
06:56Wanda asked me to act as a consequence
07:01because she was not notified
07:03if Mauro was coming to stay, to operate.
07:06We didn't know anything.
07:07But Marge, under what concept do you ask?
07:10What I don't understand is under what concept
07:14do you ask for the exclusion of the home
07:17if there was violence?
07:18How are you?
07:19Icardi, Icardi.
07:20How do you feel the support of the people?
07:22How are you?
07:23One second.
07:24Sorry.
07:25Good.
07:26And look, and Leo Messi?
07:28No.
07:29Hello.
07:30Flor?
07:31Paul.
07:32Sorry.
07:33Wati, Wati in the...
07:34That's right.
07:35Look, we are in front of the Hotel Faena
07:37and Rodrigo de Paul, Leo Messi
07:40and some other companion came out
07:42that we didn't get to see.
07:43It was a surprise.
07:45They were buying jewelry at the store in front.
07:49Rodrigo simply greeted
07:51and thanked the support of the people
07:52despite yesterday's defeat.
07:54Greetings.
07:55Very good vibes, Rodrigo.
07:57We didn't get to Leo Messi
08:00because he took a few steps
08:01from the jewelry store to the car
08:03that was waiting for him.
08:05But it was a surprise.
08:07We were waiting for the exit
08:10or the entrance of the ex-husband.
08:12So he's with Mauro Icardi and Paul?
08:14No.
08:15They were there.
08:16No.
08:17No, no, no.
08:18He said no.
08:19He was with Paul and Messi.
08:21He was with Paul and Messi.
08:22Yes.
08:23But that also brings it up.
08:25Yes.
08:26There were other friends.
08:27I don't think so.
08:28Leo Messi and Icardi in their lines.
08:30Can I ask Ana something?
08:31Excuse me.
08:32Yes.
08:33Now we continue.
08:35It's a very atypical Friday program
08:37but many things are happening
08:39in the city of Buenos Aires.
08:40We are here with Dr. Tirmarco
08:42but we return with Ana
08:43who was telling us.
08:44Anita, sorry.
08:45My cell phones got mixed up.
08:48Anita, continue with what you were saying, please.
08:50I was asking about the exclusion of the home.
08:52I was asking.
08:53I was going to ask.
08:54Yes.
08:55Yes.
08:56About the exclusion of the home.
08:58I've been working on this issue for many days.
09:00I've been working on this issue for a long time.
09:02You don't know.
09:04Mauro did know.
09:06And he said that the only way
09:07he was going to comply with an order
09:09was with a judicial order.
09:10Ah, okay.
09:11That is, with a request.
09:12Well, it was done.
09:13Ana, you had a good relationship with him.
09:16Because you always spoke well of him.
09:18I think.
09:19I want to continue.
09:20Sorry.
09:21I had and I have and I will have
09:23a good relationship with him
09:24as the father of five children
09:26who was always present
09:28in many moments.
09:29What happens is that I also know
09:31and obviously as a defender of WANDA
09:34that I am a WANDA lawyer for more than 15 years
09:37the only thing I do know
09:39is that I tried in many moments
09:41to mediate
09:43so that this separation was peaceful.
09:45But what happened, Anita?
09:46Can I ask you if the money
09:48happened in the dressing room?
09:50That.
09:53I can't tell you those details.
09:54They were very private.
09:55It happened, Tauro.
09:56You would have gotten into the dressing room.
09:58But Ana, they accuse you.
09:59They say you would have gotten into the dressing room.
10:01What were you doing in the dressing room?
10:03We were all there.
10:05No, no, we were all in the dressing room.
10:07There was the police officer,
10:08there was the police.
10:09And that's what made Mauro angry.
10:10Because I didn't have to do that.
10:12And why do they treat Mauro violently, Ana?
10:14That's what made Mauro angry.
10:15The issue of the dressing room.
10:16No, no, I can't talk.
10:18But is there a complaint for gender violence or not?
10:20No.
10:23I can't talk.
10:24It was good that Ana was there.
10:25Can I ask you a question?
10:26It was good.
10:27Sorry, I'll tell you something.
10:29This cell phone,
10:30believe me, I do it out of respect for the media.
10:33We want it, Ana.
10:34But know that there are no lawyers here.
10:38I'll ask you something else.
10:39Anita, I'll ask you something else.
10:41No, no, I want to clarify
10:42that there are no lawyers here
10:44with the intention of litigation or pleading.
10:48We have consensual between the two colleagues.
10:50Well, better.
10:51First, it's a shame that Mauro wasn't there
10:53to listen to what the judge said.
10:55When was he there?
10:56Well, the secretary.
10:57When was he there?
10:58And the defender of minors.
10:59Of course.
11:00Yes, of course.
11:01Why do you think it's important that Mauro be there?
11:03Because it's a very delicate and personal issue.
11:05For Mauro to hear
11:07that the Argentine law
11:09is preserving minors,
11:11minors of all conflict.
11:13Ah, ok.
11:14That's why the measure came out minutes ago.
11:17And what happened, Ana?
11:18I want to ask you,
11:19because the truth is that
11:20from the last visit that Mauro Icardi had
11:22here in Argentina,
11:23when he was with her on the show,
11:24I think he had gone to Baikov
11:26and then he returned to Turkey.
11:28What happened from that last trip to this one
11:30that changed things so much?
11:32Because according to what you are,
11:33from what we can understand
11:34from what you are telling,
11:35he could no longer enter his house,
11:37the one that was his house
11:38that he shared with his ex-wife,
11:40now in Guadalajara.
11:44I'm going to tell you something to summarize.
11:47These things have been going on for a long time.
11:49You know that.
11:50First.
11:51And second, it's the non-acceptance
11:53of a husband
11:55that the woman wants to separate.
11:57So sometimes you have to make drastic decisions
12:00so that the other party understands.
12:02But literally,
12:04it's not something that happened overnight.
12:06You know,
12:07from the trips and visits,
12:08you know everything.
12:09Yes, yes, yes.
12:10So,
12:11the most important thing is the acceptance
12:13of a spouse
12:14that the other does not want to continue being with.
12:16Anita.
12:17With him.
12:18That topic is already very clear.
12:19It is already out of the Icardi home.
12:20You will see what they do.
12:21They operate.
12:22But this has to do with the China Gate.
12:24It has to do with that supposed infidelity of him.
12:27Wanda could never overcome it from there.
12:29It's like,
12:30because it was a very united family.
12:32From that episode,
12:33it's like everything changed in the marriage.
12:35Do you think?
12:37They ask me,
12:38I don't know,
12:39they just have to talk to Wanda
12:40or to psychologists
12:42to see what broke the couple's relationship.
12:44But technically,
12:45there was a before and after in the life of the couple.
12:48And then, well,
12:49obviously,
12:50they tried to row her
12:52and it got to where it got.
12:53But I'm not Wanda's spokesperson.
12:56Ana.
12:57I just repeat.
12:58Today we had an audience
13:00and what happened happened
13:01and we stayed with the colleagues
13:03of very,
13:04very good wine
13:05not to touch the subject
13:07more than to say
13:08that neither a before,
13:09nor during,
13:10nor after.
13:11Ana,
13:12I'm going to ask you a question
13:13that you will be able to explain.
13:16How is Wanda today?
13:17You are a friend,
13:18apart from a lawyer.
13:19I say,
13:20they are criticizing her
13:21because she wants to live
13:22that romance
13:23with elegance.
13:24How is she?
13:25Is she sad?
13:26Is she happy?
13:27Because she finally
13:28could make this decision.
13:29You can tell us about this.
13:33Look,
13:34I'm going to tell you something.
13:35Separation is very difficult
13:36when you have a family
13:38that you formed
13:39so many years ago.
13:40Also,
13:41when you know
13:42that you had a father
13:44present in the upbringing,
13:47a father,
13:49sorry,
13:50a father,
13:51present in the upbringing
13:52of the three children
13:53she had with Max and López.
13:56Obviously,
13:57they are difficult steps,
13:58but when a woman
13:59takes this step
14:00and can,
14:01in some way,
14:02see a different future,
14:04it is because
14:05many things happened
14:06that maybe
14:07in the inner world
14:08she lived them,
14:09knows them,
14:10knows them,
14:11and you, the press,
14:12saw from the outside
14:13what was shown.
14:14Luxury,
14:15eccentricities,
14:16trips,
14:17hugs and kisses,
14:18but that is not necessarily
14:20what each of us
14:22knows
14:23that can happen
14:24in the family.
14:25Ana,
14:26it may be that...
14:27Sometimes there is a different outside.
14:28I ask you another thing
14:29outside of this
14:30that has to do,
14:31I don't know,
14:32but I don't know
14:33if Amanda wants to
14:34initiate legal actions
14:35to Turkish media
14:36for treating her as,
14:37well,
14:38I don't want to say it,
14:39but as an easy woman.
14:43I didn't talk to her.
14:44I didn't talk to her.
14:45I have a very good relationship
14:46with the people
14:47of Galatasaray.
14:48I don't know
14:49if the lawyers
14:50were hired
14:51by Galatasaray.
14:52I don't know.
14:55But from there on,
14:56I think that
14:57Galatasaray
14:58will want to preserve
14:59the image of a player
15:00and of a human being
15:01as Wanda also wants
15:02to preserve
15:03the image of her
15:04and that of her children.
15:05Is there any help
15:06from Mauro
15:07to keep him
15:08with the girls?
15:09I can't say anything.
15:11But the visits...
15:12In any case,
15:13they would never
15:14get him out of...
15:15Of what?
15:16But Mauro
15:17is going to see the girls.
15:18I say,
15:19can he see the girls?
15:20Obviously.
15:21Of course.
15:22For that,
15:23we are going to contact
15:24today,
15:25we already talked,
15:26both letters,
15:27that is,
15:28Mauro's and my letters
15:29to establish
15:30a communication regime.
15:31Ah, perfect.
15:32There is no impediment.
15:33The boys are out of everything.
15:35That's why I can't
15:36even talk about that issue.
15:37Laura.
15:38It's not a boys' issue.
15:39It's not a money issue.
15:40It's a Wanda and Mauro issue
15:41and that's why...
15:42Of course, the couple.
15:43What broke
15:44is the couple.
15:45Well,
15:46but finally,
15:47it seems to me that,
15:48let's see,
15:49beyond everything
15:50you just described,
15:51which is logical
15:52and the girls
15:53obviously
15:54don't want it
15:55because they want to have
15:56almost always
15:57the parents together,
15:58it seems to me
15:59that it is a big step
16:00that she took,
16:01beyond her new partner
16:02with Elian,
16:03whom no one wants,
16:04I say this in quotation marks,
16:05because if she makes her happy,
16:06everything is fine.
16:07Finally,
16:08she was able to achieve
16:09what she has been wanting
16:10to do for a long time,
16:11which is to run
16:12Mauro in this
16:13couple situation.
16:14She must be suffering
16:15too.
16:16Look,
16:17I'm not,
16:18I'm not a psychologist,
16:19but I've been talking
16:20to Wanda
16:21for many years
16:22about this issue
16:23and for a long time.
16:24And,
16:25well,
16:27the most important thing
16:28is the acceptance
16:29that I told you before
16:30of one of the spouses
16:31that the thing
16:32doesn't work.
16:33I mean,
16:34he accepted
16:35what he wasn't accepting.
16:36This is what you're saying,
16:37that he ended up accepting.
16:38No, he didn't accept it.
16:39No, he didn't accept it.
16:40No, he didn't accept it
16:41and the police
16:42had to do it.
16:43No, he didn't accept it.
16:44Okay,
16:45but he still
16:46doesn't accept it,
16:47so he wants to go back
16:48with Wanda at all costs
16:49despite everything
16:50that happened.
16:51Ask him.
16:52You already answered me,
16:53yes.
16:54The messages
16:55of Dan
16:56are true
16:57that he doesn't want
16:58to break up a relationship,
16:59but Wanda said
17:00that the family
17:01doesn't have to break up.
17:02Of course.
17:03What's going to break up
17:04or what broke up
17:05is the couple.
17:06But can you send him
17:07messages?
17:08But of course
17:09we're exempt.
17:10Can you send him
17:11messages now
17:12in this situation
17:13that they're living
17:14or is it out of the law
17:15what he's doing?
17:18He can't do anything
17:19that intimidates
17:20or disturbs Wanda.
17:23Okay.
17:24Ana,
17:25I don't know
17:26if I can...
17:27But know that I can't
17:28say anything
17:29because we'll
17:30meet with the lawyers
17:31to talk about
17:32what happened today.
17:33I don't know if
17:34you can...
17:35No, you know
17:36why I can talk
17:37about some things?
17:38Sorry.
17:39Yes, yes.
17:40Do you know, Pampito,
17:41why I can tell
17:42some extra things?
17:43Because this is
17:44Wanda's life.
17:45What happened
17:46in court,
17:47from the presentation,
17:48I'm going to keep my mouth
17:49shut,
17:50I'm not going to
17:51tell anything
17:52because that's
17:53what happened
17:54humbly, right?
17:55Humbly,
17:56from what I could
17:57live, of course.
17:58Yes, you know
17:59them very well.
18:00And as a friend,
18:01as a friend of hers,
18:02I ask you,
18:03Anita,
18:04as a friend of hers,
18:05what do you think
18:06about everything
18:07that happened
18:08this weekend,
18:09the trip with
18:10Elegante,
18:11the things that
18:12go up,
18:13do you think
18:14it contributes?
18:15Because they talk
18:16about taking care
18:17of the family,
18:18they talk about
18:19taking care
18:20of the children
18:21and the truth is
18:22that I'm not
18:23someone who,
18:24from the place
18:25of knowledge
18:26of the two,
18:27to think about
18:28what's good
18:29for one
18:30and what's good
18:31for the other.
18:32No, but I say
18:33as a friend,
18:34I ask you
18:35as a friend,
18:36if you say
18:37as a friend,
18:38the truth is
18:39you left
18:40to hell,
18:41friend.
18:42No, I'm
18:43never going to
18:44think about
18:45what Wanda
18:46decided to do
18:47with her life
18:48or what Mauro
18:49decided to do
18:50with his life.
18:51I'm sitting
18:52on my own
18:53wall
18:54with both.
18:55I know
18:56what Wanda
18:57tells me
18:58and I know
18:59what Mauro
19:00tells me.
19:01But I have
19:02to shut up
19:03for respect.
19:04I know
19:05what you
19:06say.
19:07I know
19:08what you
19:09say.
19:10And they
19:11say that
19:12they have
19:13to take care
19:14of
19:15minors.
19:16They have
19:17to take care
19:18of minors
19:19and they
19:20What do I know about certain things? It's an opinion, I think.
19:24I may be wrong, clearly, but...
19:26I can't give an opinion about what is right and what is wrong,
19:29because today, according to the law, they are all moral duties.
19:33Realize that since 2015, with the modification of the Civil Code,
19:37everything is moral.
19:38Of course.
19:39Everything is ethical within the four walls, or external.
19:42It doesn't harm you at all.
19:44What happens is that I understand it,
19:46and I understand what you are saying,
19:48but for us, everything is contradictory.
19:52Because you say that...
19:54I was just saying that she wanted to break up a long time ago,
19:58that we didn't know,
20:00because it's contradictory, because before...
20:03She said it.
20:0415 days ago.
20:05They had pictures in bed together.
20:07They had pictures in bed.
20:08That's why we have to ask.
20:10It's contradictory, guys, because we don't seem crazy.
20:13Upload a picture, she's leaving, she wants to take care of the kids.
20:16Well, perfect, but the kids are grown up.
20:18No, maybe she was forced.
20:20And if she was forced to do that...
20:23Well, well, you know...
20:25I'll take it, I'll take it.
20:26You know what...
20:27Sorry.
20:28Take something that is fundamental.
20:30A person denounces certain facts,
20:33and dares to get out of, I repeat,
20:36the cobweb, the vicious circle, and a lot of things,
20:39when he has the ability to do so.
20:41When he can, of course.
20:42I add to Marce's question.
20:45Because we, as spectators of what they constantly publish,
20:49of what the two of them...
20:50Sure.
20:51We say, 15 days ago they were together at home.
20:54She gave a note where she said she wanted...
20:56When he came.
20:57Sure, when he came, a little while ago.
20:5915, 20 days.
21:00That she wanted to go back to that family.
21:02They went to eat together.
21:03They went to eat together.
21:04They uploaded pictures in bed.
21:06I say, what was going on there?
21:07Was she forced to be with Mauro?
21:10Was she really trying to go back?
21:12Mauro is confused.
21:13I can't tell you.
21:14Because all that...
21:15You know what?
21:16Everything you're asking me is for court reasons.
21:20Sure.
21:21It's all in court.
21:22What you're asking me, the answers are...
21:24In court.
21:25Sorry, the situations are raised,
21:28and the answers will be given by a judge.
21:30Ana, I want to ask you if you know if Mauro Icardi...
21:33With all due respect.
21:34...is going to have surgery in Argentina,
21:36or what happens to his health?
21:37Because it draws attention,
21:38there was the rumor that he was in tequila last night.
21:41We come from a man who says he has a broken ligament,
21:44he can't walk.
21:45What do you know about that?
21:49Look, your question is very important,
21:52because it's the question that Wanda has been asking
21:54since what happened happened.
21:55Wanda wants to know everything, because, I repeat,
21:58one thing is to be divorced, separated,
22:00and another thing is the father of his daughters.
22:03Of course.
22:04And obviously the fundamental role that he plays
22:07with his other male children.
22:10Here there is a family interested in Mauro
22:13being able to re-establish his activity,
22:15to be healed, to be cured,
22:16and to be operated in the best way.
22:18That is the question that Wanda has been asking systematically,
22:22and just today it was thrown on the table.
22:24The lawyers were left to confirm
22:27if he will be operated now and come back here for rehabilitation,
22:30if he will be operated here, or will be operated...
22:32We don't know anything.
22:33But how did you see him?
22:35How did you see him?
22:36Does he walk normally?
22:37How did you see him?
22:40Yes, of course.
22:41That's what draws attention, guys.
22:43Yes, one thing, I guess...
22:44I'm not a sportswoman.
22:46I'm not a sportswoman.
22:47I'm asking you because I saw him sitting, chatting.
22:50And do you think this is definitive?
22:52Because you see that they went and came so many times
22:55that sometimes we even end up thinking
22:57that this story may have a second turn.
23:00Yes.
23:02I'm not who?
23:04I am now fulfilling a professional role.
23:07On the other hand, I have good colleagues
23:09with whom we have a common language.
23:12There is no war.
23:14We are family law lawyers.
23:18But I asked you something else, Anita.
23:21If you think this is definitive.
23:23So...
23:25But wait.
23:26Icardi is very well represented,
23:28with two lawyers who handle family law,
23:31as I have been handling it for 50 years.
23:34Lawyers with whom we are going to have
23:37constant dialogues to wait for solutions
23:40and not conflict.
23:42Now, the emotional part, the heart,
23:44the feeling and so on, is theirs.
23:46It's not mine or the lawyers'.
23:48I'm clear, Anita.
23:49Thank you very much.
23:50I thank you for this phone,
23:51which was important to listen to.
23:53Lawyer and friend.
23:54Not always at war.
23:55Not always...
23:56Not always...
23:57Sorry.
23:58Not always at war between professionals.
24:00There is no such thing.
24:01Well, neither.
24:02It was a way of saying,
24:03Ana, you are very upset,
24:04and the truth is that in the smallest...
24:07No, I'm not upset.
24:08Yes, the phone is upset.
24:10More or less.
24:11Yes.
24:12But the phone was good.
24:13It was very good.
24:14No, but you were...
24:16Look at the phone...
24:17I'm upset.
24:18I'm on the defensive.
24:19You were spicy.
24:20Spicy.
24:23That I'm spicy means
24:24that I have to take care of
24:25every word I say.
24:27But I'm not upset.
24:28I know you.
24:29There are times when you are more funny,
24:31but there are times when you are more angry.
24:32Ana, don't make such a big deal
24:33that in a while there will be a gossip
24:34and we find out everything.
24:35Stay very calm.
24:38I'm signing it.
24:39I'm signing it.
24:40I'm signing it.
24:41I'm signing it.
24:42I'm signing it.
24:43Does anyone have any doubts?
24:44Know yourselves.
24:45But I share.
24:46I have an answer to...
24:47Know yourselves.
24:48Ani.
24:49Tauro.
24:50Tauro.
24:51Yes.
24:52I can't be smiling
24:53when I really see...
24:54I know.
24:55I know.
24:56A couple that I believe,
24:57that I believe,
24:58the one that I believed and others,
24:59is going through this moment.
25:00So, it's not the same,
25:01the rictus,
25:02when I'm talking about something
25:03funny and funny,
25:04or when I'm talking about something
25:05that is really disturbing.
25:06It's not pleasant
25:07in what you lived either, Ana.
25:08If I don't smile,
25:09I smile now.
25:10And you have to thank her
25:11for showing her face.
25:12Yes.
25:14Thank you, Ana.
25:15Thank you, Anita.
25:17You're welcome.
25:18I imagine...
25:20Friends, friends.
25:21Yes.
25:22Yes.
25:23Apart from what's going to happen,
25:24it's also difficult,
25:25imagine that supposedly,
25:26as she said,
25:27she loves Mauro,
25:28she loves Wally,
25:29and they had to throw him
25:30out of the apartment
25:31with the police.