Los abogados de Mauro Icardi presentan una denuncia contra el juez por la filtración de material confidencial de audiencias, destacando su responsabilidad en preservar dicha información. La controversia surge tras sus propias órdenes de no publicar imágenes sensibles, especialmente cuando hay menores involucrados. Además, se discute el impacto en la imagen del padre Mauro Icardi y posibles acciones legales por daños y perjuicios.
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00:00María, how are you there on the floor?
00:02Good, good. Well, we are with this information at the last minute,
00:05this complaint that was filed against Judge Circo for the leak of the material of the hearings.
00:11And give us a little context.
00:13Why do you think it was the judge's responsibility to preserve that material and that this did not reach the media?
00:19First, because he himself said so.
00:22Let's not forget that it was the same judge who ordered the kidnapping of Mauro's cell phone
00:28and who ordered not to publish images of the minors.
00:31So there is a contradiction in his own work.
00:35That is, if all this must be reserved, we insist on the reserve.
00:41And if I go out to talk, it is to emphasize that this whole process should be reserved
00:48because there are minors involved.
00:51The last thing that can be done is to publish images of what the hearing was.
01:00Regardless of that, we are in the realm of contradictions.
01:06In every sense I say it.
01:08Why?
01:08Because on the one hand, of course, because on the one hand we see,
01:11and I will say it with the greatest respect, but here all respects have also been violated.
01:17On the one hand, we have an image that is given in the media of Mrs. Nara
01:23in relation to her role with the girls and her role as a woman
01:29and the things she talks about women and what she talks about Mauro.
01:33And another thing is what happens in reality.
01:37If you listen, and I hope you never listen, because we are going to present it in the hearing.
01:43If you listen to how she refers to Mrs. Suárez,
01:49which may not please her, it is in all her right that she does not like it,
01:53but she cannot refer to the terms that Mrs. Suárez refers to, on the one hand.
01:58And on the other hand, and what seems tremendous to me,
02:01how she refers to the children of Mrs. Suárez, we really have a double moral.
02:07But in this sense, just a little point and I leave you, César.
02:11We have seen this weekend leaks of all kinds and color.
02:14The supposed message, or the message that China sends to Wanda,
02:18recriminating her for mistreatment of Rufina. Horrible, questionable.
02:23I don't know, on the one hand, if that chat is true,
02:28because Eugenia has her lawyer, so it exceeds me in terms of the chat between Eugenia and Wanda.
02:35Eugenia has her own lawyer, who I imagine will take legal action against Wanda.
02:40And we also saw, and in fact, Tatiana published on her networks, Elba.
02:45Yes, we agree that the terms are unacceptable, but in which everyone refers to everyone.
02:51In fact, Tatiana, this weekend, published a message where supposedly Icardi talks to his little girl
02:57and talks to her in a way that freezes the blood, Elba, to his own daughter.
03:01Marí, everything is taken out of context, on the one hand.
03:05That's why when Mauro posts that he trusts justice, he's right.
03:11He's right that we have to trust justice, because in justice where real evidence is presented,
03:19in the media, unfortunately, and I say this with respect to the media and the journalists who do their job as it corresponds,
03:28they manipulate, the evidence is manipulated, evidence that is no longer evidence,
03:33elements that are confused, disinformation is generated in people,
03:38an image is generated that is totally distorted to what happens in the file.
03:44And not for nothing, in civil justice, which is family justice, which is the one that carries the file of Mauro and Wanda and in relation to the girls,
03:57justice has been very different from what is marked and to the image that now Wanda intends to give in a criminal case, taking it out of the natural judge.
04:06Elba, I'll ask you a question. César Carosa is speaking to you. How are you?
04:11César, how are you?
04:12Very well. Last week, when the criminal lawyer of Icardi was here,
04:20I was surprised in a way, I couldn't get to ask him, but they are protecting the minors, hypothetically,
04:27and we go back to the contradiction, that's why I take you to the minors back,
04:31and the only one they prohibit, hypothetically, upload images and others, is Icardi.
04:36So, what do you think about that? And regardless of that, which I have done,
04:41if you are going to ask for the bilaterality of that type of denial to Icardi.
04:47Of course, that the law is equal, if it doesn't go up, it doesn't go up.
04:50Do you protect or don't you protect?
04:52Your observation is very good, César.
04:54On the one hand, there is already a measure of the civil judge, that's why I go back to the same thing,
05:00there is a measure of Dr. Algopiar, where the exhibition of the girls is prohibited,
05:07where it is prohibited to talk about the file, where it is prohibited to talk about the chats,
05:11it is prohibited to talk, sorry, it is prohibited to show in the chats,
05:15where the judge was very clear, he put millionaire fines for us millionaires,
05:20obviously for Mrs. Lara, no, but he put very high fines in relation to this,
05:26to lower the mediation, and the defender of minors was very clear,
05:31when he said, it is the parties that filter it, and he did not say it in relation to Mauro,
05:36because you can see and you can tell me point by point which one has filtered Mauro,
05:42and I can assure you that none, Mauro has not filtered anything,
05:46because he believes in justice as it should be,
05:50and fundamentally in the protection of the five boys there are.
05:55Now, what is the object of so much filtering, Elba?
05:58Because here there are a lot of things that are being directed,
06:01claiming that they are economic, that they are what we used to call a tenancy regime,
06:07well, all this, and I don't know if Aguanda does him a favor,
06:11all this that is filtered, the truth is that I don't quite understand who wins with this.
06:15Look, there is a question that one always asks a rational, normal, neurotic client,
06:22as we say that we are the normal ones, the neurotic ones,
06:26and the question is, what do you win when you win?
06:29You win when you win, but there is another thing that is the discourse of hatred,
06:33it is the attitude of hatred, it is trying to destroy the other,
06:36it doesn't matter how much you destroy yourself,
06:39but what is worse, because that would be in terms of adults,
06:42is when this destruction destroys the family or destroys the children,
06:48and when we are talking about children, we are talking about many creatures,
06:53it could be a single one and that is enough, obviously,
06:57we are talking about the two daughters of Mauro and Aguanda,
07:00of the children of Mrs. Nara, who has raised them with all her love,
07:06because no one can take the love that Mauro has given the three López boys,
07:12and also, and here I am going to introduce them, despite the fact that they are not my assistants,
07:17and also the children of Mrs. Suárez,
07:21the lack of respect, consideration, discrimination,
07:27and the terms that Mrs. Nara has thrown in relation to those three innocent creatures,
07:35and I am talking about three little creatures that have nothing to do with this whole issue,
07:41this exposition was not done by Mrs. Suárez,
07:45nor by Mr. Icardi, it is being done by Mrs. Nara,
07:49they are children, the children do not care if they were born from a mother or another mother,
07:55the children are children.
07:57Now we are going to the issue of Aguanda and China, but yes, Tati.
08:00Yes, I know that Elba is not going to say it, Tatiana Shapiro greets you,
08:04Elba, the phrases that come to us that Aguanda said about the daughter of China are unpredictable,
08:13even questioning issues related to the economic of Mauro,
08:19regarding the children of China, super controversial,
08:23we will see later what the file turns into.
08:27I'm not going to tell you because it seems to me unplayable,
08:30and it seems to me that in this way, if I said it, I would be multiplying the damage to these creatures.
08:35Yes, Elba, that is also why we have decided, as an editorial line,
08:40not to reproduce those messages or those qualifiers,
08:43because I share 100% that one re-victimizes from this place
08:48and it is the superior interest of the child that we want to protect.
08:51It is not to do the favor to any of these irresponsible adults,
08:55irresponsible, all of them, all of them, China, Aguanda and Mauro,
09:00in that order or in the one they want, but the children are not to blame.
09:04Exactly, the damage to the children leaves traces that remain marked for the rest of their lives.
09:10They are children, there are no economic conditions in the children,
09:14there are no ties, there is no blood.
09:18When you say that one blood is better than another, what barbarity are we talking about?
09:23They are children, they are all children.
09:26Without reproducing it, this happened.
09:29But I do want to ask you that without reproducing it,
09:32but you do confirm that this happened.
09:35What I want to ask you has to do with the tenancy of the girls.
09:41Mauro, do you ask for the tenancy of the girls,
09:44assuming that the center of life of the girls is in Turkey?
09:49Is this the proposal?
09:51Well, the proposal is quite complex,
09:54because on the one hand we would have to define the future,
09:58the labor future of Mauro,
10:01and obviously in what is at the time of an eventual international restitution,
10:05which would be Turkey, it is in place.
10:08The girls came to Argentina without consent.
10:13The international right to which Argentina is affiliated,
10:17which is the convention of the ASA, does not discriminate between mother and father.
10:21To say both, mother and father, because I go back to the same thing,
10:24it can be beyond the year 80,
10:27it can be two fathers.
10:29Let's get out of the structure that the mother has more rights.
10:33No.
10:35For the convention it is exactly ...
10:38Well, here you are giving us an important clue,
10:41as a result of Tatiana's question.
10:43First, I decode that the answer to what Tatiana asked you
10:47about whether he is going to claim,
10:49what is the name of the guard now?
10:51Caution.
10:53The care of the girls, I understand that the answer is yes.
10:56You also said, halfway through,
10:58that the future of Icardia is still unclear
11:00in relation to whether it will be Turkey or not.
11:03And you also said that the international law,
11:06the international conventions,
11:08are not like the Argentine law,
11:10I added this, in the sense that they put equal rights
11:13to the mother and the father in terms of directing a guard.
11:16Is this so?
11:18No, no, but excuse me, excuse me.
11:20Excuse me, Marina, I have a small correction.
11:22Of course.
11:24In terms of families,
11:26both, mother and father,
11:28because I come back to the same thing,
11:30let's decontract them,
11:32let's decontract the family.
11:34We can have, we find many scenes
11:36where you have two mothers,
11:38where you have two fathers,
11:40that is, where you have a mother and two fathers.
11:43I agree, but here there is a mother and a father.
11:45Here there is a mother and a father
11:47that would be a little more classic,
11:50that is, but for our civil regime,
11:53the mother does not have more rights than the father.
11:56That is, there are no more rights
11:58than the father of any mother.
12:00But you see that one has internalized this
12:02that they take the guard of the children,
12:04a mother is something that does not happen,
12:06except in extraordinary circumstances,
12:08where there is some disease,
12:10some addiction,
12:12some very, very fucked up issue
12:14where the children are really in danger,
12:16but it does not happen.
12:18The family judges,
12:20what they are looking for
12:23is what is called
12:25the superior interest of the girls
12:27and they look for the care
12:29to be exercised in general
12:31by both parents.
12:33That is the ideal system,
12:35that both parents are exercising it
12:37and if not, who is in better condition
12:39is in favor of the girls.
12:41It is always in favor of the boys,
12:43not what a mother or a father can believe.
12:45Elba, I'll ask you a question.
12:47In the event that Icardi really
12:49takes this decision forward
12:51regarding his younger daughters,
12:53what would be the jurisdiction?
12:55Would he have to do it directly in Turkey
12:57or in that country in which he lives
12:59depending on his work?
13:01Sure, that is an excellent question.
13:03What happens is that we have a
13:05in the meantime.
13:07In the meantime, obviously,
13:09we have to be solving it
13:11here in Argentina
13:13because the situation cannot be indefinite.
13:15What I also want to point out
13:17is that the girls today
13:19already have to be with their father.
13:21There is no reason for them
13:23not to be with their father.
13:25What we are seeing
13:27that could,
13:29and I speak from a potential
13:31because these are things that
13:33psychologists have to determine,
13:35but we could be in the presence
13:37of something that is very common
13:39which are psychological kidnappings.
13:41Stop, stop, stop.
13:43What you are saying is very strong, Elba.
13:45You are saying that they are evaluating
13:47from the legal representation of Icardi
13:49I feel that in the court
13:51of denouncing
13:53a possible psychological kidnapping
13:55of the girls.
13:57What does it mean
13:59a psychological kidnapping?
14:01I'm going to make it simple and short.
14:03I'm going to make it simple and short.
14:05When...
14:07I'm going to try to make it as short
14:09as possible.
14:11Mauro was all the time
14:13with the girls,
14:15but I'm going to make a little summary
14:17if you allow me.
14:19On December 3,
14:21the natural judge of the case,
14:23Dr. Gopián,
14:25says that the girls had to go back with their father.
14:2713, 14, 15, 16.
14:29The mother does not fulfill it.
14:31She discommunicates the girls
14:33with the father.
14:35On the 17th, she fulfills
14:37and the girls return with the father.
14:39They had to go back until December 25.
14:41On December 25,
14:43the girls waited for the mother
14:45with the backpack prepared,
14:47literally,
14:49and the mother did not go to look for them
14:51because she went to Uruguay alone.
14:53That is,
14:55the father cancels
14:57his plans for the end of the year
14:59because he is a father
15:01and something they cannot deny
15:03Mr. Icardi
15:05who is a full-time father.
15:07In the sense, obviously,
15:09when you are playing soccer,
15:11a father who is absolutely dedicated
15:13to his children.
15:15That is,
15:17the father does not hesitate
15:19not a second.
15:21Not a second did the conversation last
15:23with the father, with Mauro,
15:25for Mauro to take care of the girls
15:27who were left with the backpack
15:29waiting for the mother.
15:31And Mauro stays with the girls
15:33until January 3.
15:35Mrs. Nara returns
15:37and only with a phone call
15:39that does not correspond as it would be
15:41normal,
15:43he takes the girls.
15:45That is, he returned when he wanted,
15:47he took the girls when he wanted
15:49and he had to return on January 15
15:51because the judge was clear
15:53in that disposition and spoke of 15.
15:55When we had to say,
15:57well, now we have to return
15:59the girls,
16:01not only does he prevent the conversation,
16:03he is present in the conversation
16:05with the mother,
16:07in the conversation that would have to be
16:09with the mother and father,
16:11sorry, the girls with the father.
16:13Yes, the girls with the father,
16:15which is the same thing that Wanda also claims,
16:17that they do not let her speak to her alone
16:19with the girls.
16:21But he has let her speak
16:23and it is also what corresponds
16:25that they speak alone.
16:27Now, why psychological kidnapping, Elba?
16:29What's going on?
16:31How is it configured?
16:33What is the approach here that is being done?
16:35The girls are not going to mix
16:37with other creatures.
16:39Sorry?
16:41Sorry?
16:43How can it not be?
16:45When it was the same Mauro
16:47who raised his own children with so much love,
16:49it seems that now
16:51he cannot get together
16:53with other creatures.
16:55They have the sensitive head
16:57that the creatures have
16:59against the father
17:01and against those creatures.
17:03Yes, obviously no one can be in favor
17:05of filling the girls' heads
17:07on either side.
17:09They are also girls whose parents
17:11are just separated,
17:13they are trying to digest a situation
17:15and force them into a coexistence
17:17with the new girlfriend
17:19and with the children of the new girlfriend.
17:21I don't know if it's the best
17:23for the mental health of the girls,
17:25but I'm not going to say this,
17:27nor would you.
17:29A psychologist would have to say it.
17:31However,
17:33the boys,
17:35and this can be said
17:37much more by psychologists
17:39than we could tell you,
17:41and we would follow
17:43the indications of the psychologists
17:45as they correspond.
17:47However, the boys have less prejudice
17:49than the adults.
17:51And on those issues
17:53I think we can all agree
17:55that the boys have a much more open heart
17:57to new relationships than the adults.
17:59And I hope that they continue
18:01to hate the adults
18:03and that we hope
18:05that they don't continue to hate
18:07the children.
18:09Elba, do the girls
18:11want to go with the father?
18:13Of course they do.
18:15It's important to clarify this.
18:17Yes, of course.
18:21Let's see,
18:23the girls were
18:25until January 6th
18:27happy, beautiful, I mean, natural, well, there is no reason why they do not want to be with the father, that is, nothing happened between father and daughter.
18:40The presence of Silvia cannot be something like that, that she did not vote for the girls?
18:45Let's remember that Silvia is a nanny who at one point had a Wanda perimeter and that they had to remove her from the environment of the girls, well, by a judicial mandate that led to this request from Wanda Nara.
18:58It is quite confusing, but regardless of that, let's go by parts. Silvia had worked for many years with the marriage, with Mauro and with Wanda, on the one hand, and on the other hand, we cannot forget that she is a worker who left her without a job.
19:16That is, by a judicial mandate, by a disposition of something that we do not even know what it is, because the girls supposedly made a statement in a desk, no creature can declare in a desk because it is not the scope for a creature to declare freely.
19:35That is, we all know that this type of statement is not valid. I am not going to get into Silvia's question because I am not a lawyer, it does not correspond, however, it generates a lot of feeling of manipulation that is done about life and the decisions that you make inside, take Mauro as a father.
19:59Because let's also remember that supposedly, according to the journalistic information, Silvia was taken care of by the children of China at Mauro's house when they went to Mar del Plata this weekend to La Breche, and well, Wanda would not have liked it, beyond the fact that the restriction is in relation to her daughters and not to the children of China.
20:18Yes, of course, it seems to me that she did not renew it.
20:49And I speak only imploring this reservation, that is why I do not reproduce issues that I should not reproduce and I do not speak of issues that I should not speak of.
20:59Attention! There is something that is happening now that has to do with everything we saw this weekend, which is that Wanda was, China actually, Eugenia was asking for a fine for Wanda for circulating the screenshot.
21:20Ah, of her WhatsApp.
21:21Yes, they are not giving place to this request now because they say that the capture is not enough evidence to verify the origin of the leak.
21:34So, although they cannot publish the material among themselves, at this time the justice is not giving the right to Eugenia in the request for the fine to Wanda with the leak of this material because they cannot verify, they say that this capture is not enough evidence that it is Wanda who leaked that conversation.
21:56Well, it is information of the last moment, that message was spoken during the whole weekend, which is the message where China recriminates Wanda that she would have treated Rufina badly, she would have qualified her in a despectful way, only because she wanted to greet her daughter.
22:13That does not change the conversation.
22:14Yes, of course, we do not doubt the veracity of anything. But I don't know if you had information about this, Elba.
22:21No, no, no, no, not about that, because Eugenia is not assisted in our case with another sponsorship.
22:28Anyway, I want to emphasize that we are at a judicial hearing, this is a matter that I imagine that I will process in civil justice.
22:37Enabling the hearing and asking these questions is sometimes much more complex than dealing with the natural judge who has a cause.
22:45With this, what I want to say is that if you look at the timeline, which I think is not casual, Mrs. Nara takes advantage of the month of January to dirty, in a way that will have to be repaired, the image and honor as a father of Mr. Icardi, on the one hand, and on the other, damaging the daughters.
23:13The daughters, the girls, are not property of anyone.
23:18Now, Elba, when you say you dirty Icardi in his role as a father, or in his image as a father, and this is going to have to be repaired.
23:27You are putting together some legal action of damages and prejudices, slander and insults.
23:33That cause is also coming, which is added to all those that are already in process, the civil, the criminal.
23:40They are divorced, so quietly, as separate people, so that people understand, damages and prejudices can happen to him quietly, and he is a public figure and important worldwide.
23:52Totally, premature to start it now, because there are situations that are more important, but the damages are not free.
24:04You can not be damaging the image of a person impunity.
24:09There are responsibilities, in the same way that there is no previous censorship, without prejudice that the judge issued many measures in relation to this.
24:21If you have a system of subsequent repair, and when Mauro posts, because here we are, let's talk a little bit about current affairs, when Mauro posts the figure of Johnny Depp.
24:35We have the post of Mauro, of Johnny Depp, so as not to leave the public out.
24:39In fact, I also wanted to ask you what reading you make of this, in the context of everything that happened on the weekend.
24:45And while we look for the post, I ask you, because the beginning of the talk had to do with this complaint they make against Judge Circo for the leak of the videos of that audience.
24:56And in that audience, Wanda emphasizes a lot on an Icardi who digitally harasses her, who threatens her with leaking information about her privacy,
25:06who put cameras and microphones on her, whose existence she was not even aware of.
25:12And I ask you, what is true in this and how much is credited in the file?
25:17Well, when we protested, and there I just saw on the screen, because now I turned on the TV and I was able to see you, and I saw the post that Johnny Depp makes.
25:27Yes, here we see it.
25:29In the courts where it will be determined, because in the courts where all the evidence is overturned.
25:34Let's go back to the same thing. Wanda is the queen of contradiction.
25:40On the one hand, she says she didn't know about the cameras, but on the other hand, she herself said some time ago that she had seen Mrs. Suárez for her cameras.
25:51So she saw the cameras, she didn't see them, she knew the cameras, she didn't know them.
25:56The truth is that she doesn't know she has cameras in her house, it's very hard for me to believe it.
26:03I think we are all human beings with emotions.
26:11I really don't want to take sides for either of them.
26:17But I remember perfectly when Mauro and Cardi had told Wanda, when they were living outside,
26:27that he had begged her in one of the leaks that we all saw, for Wanda to come back with her, that China does not exist.
26:37I think that the destruction of the daughters, the psychological damage, does not come from now.
26:43We heard something yesterday, we were all in shock, but this has been coming for a while.
26:47And those girls, for me, have matured out of time.
26:51Because the parents, or the mother, in this case, I think that Wanda and her contradictions and everything she has done,
26:58because she was the one who leaked everything at the first moment, conversations, she made fun of you.
27:03I think these girls have matured out of time.
27:09It seems that the point you make, Mimi, is important.
27:11Because what Mimi wants to say is that the girls do not suffer only when the mother or the father talk about them,
27:17or material is exposed that directly involves them, but also for this direct good.
27:22We have seen so many horrible, horrible messages of harassment from Mauro to Wanda, which is fine, it is an interested leak.
27:31I give you the right in that, because Wanda leaks it, leaks the part where he is like the monkey, obvious.
27:37But this is also harm to the girls.
27:39But of course, I agree with the two points that are manifesting.
27:45On the one hand, each marriage is a world.
27:48That is, each marriage is a world.
27:50What is the world of the two of them internally?
27:53It is a question that must be.
27:55Doors inside.
27:57If there was a situation to report, doors inside a file.
28:03And are the situations denounced?
28:05Or the alleged situations that later the judge will say ...
28:08No, no, no.
28:10Do you know why not?
28:12Let's go back to the same thing.
28:14Don't forget, when Wanda exposes Mauro, when she says, because of a complaint of violence,
28:22that she clearly lowers the window and I think that your partner, Oliver,
28:27tells him that Mauro was not violent and that she had not denounced violence.
28:32So, did he denounce violence or not denounce violence?
28:35Then he said, when he went to Santa Bárbara, he said,
28:38how am I going to go to the house, how am I going to enter the house if I think it is violent?
28:43So, what is the truth of Wanda?
28:46I say, what is your truth?
28:48Because she contradicts herself in one, in another, in another, in another.
28:52What is your truth? What is your position?
28:54There is a lot of dispute.
28:56And he also said with Wanda, with Mauro we will always be a family.
28:59But the truth has to be in justice or on television?
29:01I think the truth has to be in justice.
29:03No, the truth is in justice.
29:05Wanda on television lies to us all the time, we know that.
29:08For better or for worse, she lies to us.
29:10The other part also filters her things.
29:13And I wanted to ask you, doctor, if you, who just talked so much about the protection of children,
29:18did you find the publications of Mauro Icardi unnecessary,
29:23which were photos of Mrs. Suárez with Wanda's daughters at the time?
29:32Look, each one expresses himself.
29:35Let's see, at that time there was no kind of restriction.
29:39But they seemed provocative.
29:41I understand, I understand the point.
29:43But they didn't seem provocative to me within the nature in which they were being handled.
29:49Particularly, I mean, here you have the position of each one.
29:53But one is not the owner of the decisions.
29:58Free, free, I am saying as long as they are not harming anyone.
30:03Because, in fact, what was the harm in showing that?
30:06Yes, well, it is opinionable from the common sense.
30:09To show the mother, it seems.
30:11Yes, clearly it is a provocation, but I don't know if that is legally punishable, the truth.
30:17Yes, but you know, I understand the point, I understand where you are pointing.
30:22But he is living a public relationship.
30:25Public, I'm saying, peaceful, I mean, public.
30:30Natural.
30:31She was with Elegante and the daughters on her birthday.
30:34Of course.
30:35It is also true.
30:37Take two points.
30:38Four.
30:39It is true.
30:40It doesn't seem to me that she had to hide it either.
30:43It doesn't seem to me either that she had to take it as a provocation.
30:47Because Mauro is still a free man and he can go out with whoever he wants.
30:52I mean, I understand that, and I think we will all agree that Wanda,
30:57I mean, Wanda cannot choose Mauro's girlfriend.
31:02No, no.
31:03What happens is that he chose just that woman with whom he deceived Wanda
31:08in October 2021 at the Royal Monceau in Paris.
31:12Of course.
31:13Just, you see, it seems like sought after, like targeted.
31:16But well, that exceeds you, Elba.
31:18Yes.
31:19Yes, Tati, the last one.
31:20No, no.
31:21We had information from a very complicated audio that Mauro would have saved
31:28prior to this post, to this photo that we saw.
31:33Johnny Depp's.
31:34Yes, I don't want to say it because I would have told Wanda something very tremendous
31:39to Mauro.
31:41Is that right, Elba?
31:43Yes, unfortunately it is.
31:45I return you with the same.
31:46Unplayable.
31:48Absolutely unplayable.
31:50We are going to present it in court to mark and point out this,
31:56which perhaps was not entirely armed in the explanation of what we say is
32:01a luck, take it in quotation marks, take it in quotation marks, of a psychological
32:06kidnapping that is being done of girls and of a hate that is wanted to instill
32:12in children in relation to other children, which no judge is going to endorse.
32:19What you say is very strong, Elba, because you leave several titles.
32:23First, the idea of psychological kidnapping, which I understand will be judged.
32:27Second, this that Tatiana contributed from a new audio that Mauro has in his power,
32:32where Wanda would go into all these issues that I described about the girls.
32:37And well, I understand that unfortunately this does not end anymore, Elba.
32:41The truth is that it is sad to see boys in the way.
32:45I have to close.
32:46Yes, yes, yes.
32:47And with this I leave you.
32:50It seems to me that what we handle from Mauro's part is to basically protect
33:00the girls and that they do not expose themselves, as Wanda is filtering them,
33:07in this way to the creatures that are the ones that hurt the most.
33:12The creatures are not the property of any of us.
33:15Without a doubt.
33:16We will continue to call you, Elba.
33:19And well, today we don't talk about you, about how you are.
33:22It seems to me that already in the note with Ángel everything was said.
33:25And in fact, we talked for a week about that note in which you went through all the topics.
33:31And well, anyway, we would like to talk to you at some point,
33:35with the waters a little calmer and having spent the time to see how everything goes
33:41and to project your life forward and what is coming.
33:46And well, I hope there is peace in the family.
33:49We send you a very strong hug.
33:51Thank you, thank you, thank you for choosing us to talk about the Icardi topic for the first time.
33:57And well, you left very strong titles.
33:59Thank you, Elba.
34:00A very big thank you to all of you.
34:02Thank you very much, thank you very much.