Are Rangers treading a tightrope until January 2nd? Darren Jackson joins The Football Show to discuss the latest Scottish Premiership news and give his predictions for fixtures this weekend.
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Also on The Football Show:
Willie Collum announces the SFA will release a monthly VAR review
Full preview of all of this weekend's fixtures including Celtic v Hearts, Aberdeen v Motherwell and Dundee United v Rangers
Philippe Clement's press conference where he addresses angry Rangers fans at Ibrox and at Captain James Tavernier
Hibernian release an injury update for Kieron Bowie ahead of their clash against St Johnstone
And much more!
The Football Show Highlights:
00:00:00 Intro - The Football Show
00:00:58 Willie Collum's Monthly VAR review
00:12:42 Scottish Premiership fixtures this weekend
00:13:13 Celtic v Hearts preview
00:26:42 Philippe Clement on angry fans outside Ibrox
00:27:57 Philippe Clement on fans angry at James Tavernier
00:29:01 Dundee United v Rangers preview
00:35:47 Aberdeen v Motherwell preview
00:47:51 Kieron Bowie injury news
00:49:10 Hibernian v St Johnstone
00:53:06 St Mirren v Kilmarnock preview
00:58:36 Tottenham v Arsenal preview
SUBSCRIBE NOW: @PLZSoccer
Also on The Football Show:
Willie Collum announces the SFA will release a monthly VAR review
Full preview of all of this weekend's fixtures including Celtic v Hearts, Aberdeen v Motherwell and Dundee United v Rangers
Philippe Clement's press conference where he addresses angry Rangers fans at Ibrox and at Captain James Tavernier
Hibernian release an injury update for Kieron Bowie ahead of their clash against St Johnstone
And much more!
The Football Show Highlights:
00:00:00 Intro - The Football Show
00:00:58 Willie Collum's Monthly VAR review
00:12:42 Scottish Premiership fixtures this weekend
00:13:13 Celtic v Hearts preview
00:26:42 Philippe Clement on angry fans outside Ibrox
00:27:57 Philippe Clement on fans angry at James Tavernier
00:29:01 Dundee United v Rangers preview
00:35:47 Aberdeen v Motherwell preview
00:47:51 Kieron Bowie injury news
00:49:10 Hibernian v St Johnstone
00:53:06 St Mirren v Kilmarnock preview
00:58:36 Tottenham v Arsenal preview
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00:00:00Welcome to the football show on PLZ Soccer's YouTube channel. I'm Peter
00:00:08Martin, Alan Ruff, Darren Jackson and Alison McConnell here with me on this
00:00:12Friday. Delighted to have your company and if you're on our YouTube channel
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00:00:19follow us across all the social media. If you download the app you'll get all the
00:00:24breaking news at your fingertips. Lots to talk about on the program of course
00:00:28Celtic and Aberdeen have the chance to stretch their lead over Dundee United
00:00:33and Rangers before of course they two meet on the Sunday. We'll discuss that.
00:00:38Blow to Rangers, Danilo is out for a month. Kieran Bowie is out for four
00:00:43months which may be prompted Hibbs to sign Dwight Gale. We'll discuss that.
00:00:48Manager of the month is Jimmy Tolleen. Player of the month is Callum McGregor.
00:00:52So lots to get our teeth into. Let's first of all talk about something that
00:00:56we had a chance to look over over the last couple of days, Ruffy, which is just
00:01:03basically coming out. It was Willie Callum talking about the VAR mistakes.
00:01:07It's going to be a monthly video. I mean it must be absolutely riveting just
00:01:11listening to a referee talking about VAR. That'll be an absolute crowdstormer, that one.
00:01:16Yeah, but it's something we were all moaning about last year. There was no
00:01:20dialogue. There was nobody coming out and telling people why they made these
00:01:24decisions. A lot of them were baffling to us. We didn't think it was going to be a
00:01:27monthly show. I mean unless Willie suddenly starts singing on it and they
00:01:31get, you know, locks of axe on Ruffy, it's not going to be... You never know. You wouldn't put in by the SFA and then kick him out.
00:01:37Do you know what I'd love, Ruffy? I'd love to see the feed on the YouTube channel as Willie.
00:01:43If it's anything like our feed, Darren, it'll be mental. You know, people just
00:01:48absolutely hammering him. Is that fair, Ali? Not at all. I think we do the general
00:01:53public who go to football matches a gross disservice.
00:01:57Oh, dearie me. Anyway, listen, the positive aspect of it is it clears up a few things.
00:02:03Yeah, but that can go the other way as well. Well, we're about to ask you if it does or not.
00:02:09It can go the opposite way as well. You know, if they come out and say, yeah, we got that wrong.
00:02:14You know, that opens up another avenue for people to go, well, wait a minute.
00:02:19We'd have got a penalty there. We could be sitting at the bottom six or decisions that they're going to come out and say.
00:02:25Well, look at that one, Ruffy. The penalty. Which one?
00:02:29Kyogre against Comarnac. Yeah, that's the one they're talking about.
00:02:31I mean, the dialogue right away. They've not even looked at it. They've just said...
00:02:37Well, it was good for them. It stood big. Yeah.
00:02:41It was good for them to explain some of this stuff. The Comarnac one,
00:02:46they were telling us that you can't look at VAR if it's outside the box.
00:02:50Yeah, right. No, I didn't know that was a rule in there.
00:02:54So they're coming out and telling you things. From a goalkeeper's point of view?
00:02:57No, from VAR's point of view. You know, the Comarnac one where he was out,
00:03:01he got tackled at the edge of the 18-yard box against Armstrong.
00:03:04And he got flicked on the back of his ankle. Yeah, they were looking for a penalty.
00:03:09Well, they came out and said, people wanted to know, why did you not go to VAR?
00:03:12Because it wasn't in the box, or the referee deemed it wasn't in the box.
00:03:16That's why we never looked at it. There's a lot of things about VAR I don't think we all know.
00:03:20Well, the one thing he said was he was critical of Matthew McDermott's body language
00:03:26leading up to what he believes was a correctly awarded League Cup goal scored by Cyril Dessers
00:03:31against St. Johnson. That caused a lot of consternation.
00:03:35Yeah, it did. I was actually working at that game.
00:03:37And I think at the time there had been a viewpoint that
00:03:41although his whistle didn't go,
00:03:43he seemed to gesture for a free kick to go St. Johnson's way.
00:03:48Craig Lagoon was pretty irked in the aftermath of it, bit his tongue,
00:03:52didn't want to court a fine, but bit his tongue.
00:03:55But he felt as though his players had stopped playing.
00:03:59I think there's an argument to say that play had gone on.
00:04:02But yeah, it definitely caused a lot of controversy that particular moment.
00:04:07He was critical of how he had positioned himself in the build-up to that moment.
00:04:12Although he did say he didn't blow his whistle,
00:04:14which had been the accusation during the game that the whistle went
00:04:17and then play was allowed to continue.
00:04:19Yeah, listen, I take your point you're saying, oh, it causes a bit of consternation afterwards,
00:04:24especially if they say they got it wrong.
00:04:26But they've got it wrong before, long before VAR came in.
00:04:30And they've looked at things and they've had to hold their hands up.
00:04:34I remember the late and very amiable and approachable John Fleming at the SFE.
00:04:40He was a lovely man.
00:04:41And he would phone people and say, you know, listen, we got it wrong.
00:04:44Sorry, you have to move on.
00:04:46You have to accept that mistakes will be made.
00:04:48So I am all for the transparency.
00:04:50I think Willie Cullum deserves credit for saying, right,
00:04:54I'm being facetious about the monthly programme,
00:04:56but Willie's going to go on there.
00:04:58They're going to clear up things.
00:04:59And hopefully, you know, as these little mistakes come up,
00:05:03the referees and the assistants and the VAR officials will start to get a better grasp,
00:05:08especially for the handball, which caused all sorts of problems.
00:05:12Yeah, that's one that nobody knows about, Peter.
00:05:15I mean, every time you see a defender now, he goes to make a tackle
00:05:20and his arms are right away, they're behind his back.
00:05:23And that's not, that's not the way to tackle.
00:05:26Yeah, it's not a natural position.
00:05:28You've got to use your body.
00:05:31And I mean, it's, yeah, if it's going in the net and it hits your hand, it's a penalty.
00:05:36But that's, some of it's not deliberate.
00:05:39You know what I mean?
00:05:39And listen, I've always been critical of referees
00:05:43and I totally understand how hard a job it is.
00:05:48But it does hurt me when I see, I'm sorry.
00:05:52And it's cost a team three points.
00:05:56Yeah.
00:05:57And a manager's maybe down in the bottom of the league.
00:05:59And listen, it's not the referee's fault that he's down.
00:06:02But that gives them a wee bit of confidence and a sorry.
00:06:06Doesn't work.
00:06:07Doesn't work for me.
00:06:08Yeah, but I'll tell you where it does work, Darren.
00:06:10And I take your point on this.
00:06:11But where it does work is the fact that if you understand from day one,
00:06:17which we've talked to Ad Nauseam, yourself, everybody,
00:06:20if you understand from day one that the VAR was never going to solve everything,
00:06:25what it was going to do was create a higher percentage of getting decisions right
00:06:30by seeing things from different angles and hopefully,
00:06:34which didn't materialise in the early days, quickly come to a decision.
00:06:37So what they've done is they've managed to reduce the percentage of mistakes,
00:06:42but of the mistakes that are still there, even with VAR,
00:06:45you'll never take away the pain.
00:06:47That pain that you're talking about, that contentious decision
00:06:51that they say they hold their hands up.
00:06:53Well, I'd rather they hold their hands up, Ali, at 10%
00:06:57rather than the old days when it used to be maybe 30%.
00:07:01Yeah, I would agree with you.
00:07:02And I also think the thing about this show that you're talking about is
00:07:06I think it lends itself towards an element of transparency
00:07:10that we would welcome, that people have been crying out for for a long time.
00:07:14I think the common explanation is how you reached a decision,
00:07:18which I think is to be welcomed.
00:07:19You might not always agree with the decision itself or how they got to it,
00:07:22but I think having an explanation, seeing they're working, if you like,
00:07:26is a good way to present yourself.
00:07:29I think it brings the SFA, it brings referees into a more modern culture.
00:07:34I think we have been critical at times of our VAR silence
00:07:38around decisions and clubs and teams, managers have been frustrated
00:07:42as to how decisions are given.
00:07:44I'm not saying this won't be a cure-all for some of those frustrations,
00:07:47but I think it will be helpful to understand how the position was got to.
00:07:52And I think if there is an acknowledgement of an error,
00:07:55I think it's a move in the right direction.
00:07:56And I think anything that encourages dialogue between both players,
00:08:01coaches and referees, I think is a good thing.
00:08:04Yeah, absolutely.
00:08:04I can see how Craig Levine could be angry about it.
00:08:09He's got to be angry with his defenders as well because...
00:08:11Yes.
00:08:13He played on and put the ball in the net.
00:08:15Play until, and they say they heard the whistle,
00:08:17but no one really heard the whistle, Peter, do you know what I mean?
00:08:20So play until the game's dead, do you know what I mean?
00:08:25So that one I can see from both points of view, Craig being angry with the decision
00:08:32and I would think being angry with his defenders.
00:08:35Yeah, absolutely.
00:08:36The monthly one, the figures will go through the roof if it's a Rangers-Celtic game.
00:08:41Will they admit they got a goal wrong in the last minute?
00:08:44That would be fantastic.
00:08:46I'll lay you odds of two to one on that there is no live feed
00:08:51that they allow the messages to come through because sometimes on here,
00:08:55and thankfully the majority of people who post messages
00:08:58while we put out a live show, the majority,
00:09:00now I think a really high percentage, are sensible football fans.
00:09:05You do get the odd nutcase from the early days, Ruffey.
00:09:08There was a higher percentage of them, but we managed to get rid of them.
00:09:11And influence them to go back to fanzines.
00:09:13I think most of them addressed me, most of them said that.
00:09:16Yes, Alison's got a nickname on the social media at the moment,
00:09:22which is very unkind, I have to say.
00:09:24But every now and then when she gets out of hand,
00:09:27a reminder of her nickname does, that's all I'm saying to you.
00:09:29And by the way, I don't know if you influence your family,
00:09:32but Chris Fraser says it's good to see Darren Jackson looking well.
00:09:36Doesn't get any better than that.
00:09:37Great to see Darren's cousin just posting that message for us.
00:09:42Yeah, lots of people talking about the referees and Paul Brady,
00:09:45why wasn't the Kyogo Challenge reviewed?
00:09:47The ref should have been sent to the monitor.
00:09:49I think everybody looks at that and was absolutely aghast at the time.
00:09:52But listen, we've got transparency.
00:09:55Let's be positive about it and say well done Willie Colham.
00:09:57There will be, I think you're right Ruffey,
00:09:59as soon as it involves the Celtic and Rangers,
00:10:01there's all sorts of angry people.
00:10:04Do you think you would applaud Willie Colham for it?
00:10:07I think previous occupants of that post may have been reticent
00:10:12to put themselves in that kind of position.
00:10:14I think you'd have to applaud him
00:10:15for being willing to come out and show face really
00:10:19and know that you're on a hiding to nothing in certain elements of it.
00:10:23I think it's a step in the right direction.
00:10:25The other VAR thing was to help the referees.
00:10:29I think this has put an added pressure on the referees now.
00:10:32Because if you're the referee that's going to come out every month
00:10:35and get something wrong,
00:10:37then it's going to fall on you heavily somewhere down the road.
00:10:39Well, of course, because one person has mentioned here on our feed, Ruffey,
00:10:43it's Tone, who says referees should be demoted to lower leagues
00:10:48with persistent mistakes.
00:10:49They do. They don't get cup finals.
00:10:52They don't get semi-finals.
00:10:53They're judged on how well they do.
00:10:57I mean, it's a standard that a lot of people don't know that,
00:11:00but they do get reviewed and they get assessed.
00:11:02I might be being harsh here, but it's right.
00:11:06Do you know what I mean? It's right.
00:11:07Because if a player makes that many mistakes, he's dropped.
00:11:09Absolutely.
00:11:10He doesn't get back on the team.
00:11:11Yeah, but I think from your point of view,
00:11:13listen, the one thing that this episode will do on a monthly basis,
00:11:18and remember, Willie's speaking to referees daily,
00:11:21is once you get clarity on things,
00:11:24once you try and get to a consistent decision on a type of incident,
00:11:29then hopefully those mistakes become less and less.
00:11:33It's always a situation where I'd rather that some referees
00:11:38were able to, you have to be big enough to take that 5% of criticism
00:11:43that comes if there's a smaller amount of mistakes.
00:11:46But remember, we had a situation where it was just non-stop,
00:11:49referees, conspiracy.
00:11:51It's a big Rangers fan, he's a Celtic fan.
00:11:52I've seen this guy in a pub.
00:11:54It just does your head in.
00:11:55This is a situation where we're getting to a lower percentage
00:11:59of mistakes.
00:12:00There will always be, they'll never go away,
00:12:02but at least we're getting to a situation where it's not constantly,
00:12:06you know, looking at people and looking into their background
00:12:11and all this nonsense and then saying,
00:12:13this is definitely somebody who's got an agenda
00:12:15or this is a mistake and they never addressed it.
00:12:18We're getting it slightly better.
00:12:20I have to read this out, Ali, because it's, you know,
00:12:24people listen regularly and if I'm going to read out
00:12:28Darren's compliment, I've got to read one out for you.
00:12:32Derek in Glasgow says, I applaud the use of reticent.
00:12:35Well done. There you go, fantastic.
00:12:39Roughly thought reticent had been signed by Partick Thistle
00:12:42as a left back, but nevertheless.
00:12:45Let's have a look at the fixtures for the weekend
00:12:47and there's some Humdinger games for us to enjoy.
00:12:50Aberdeen against Motherwell, I'll be up there to see
00:12:52what all the fuss is about. Celtic against Harps.
00:12:55Pibbs against St Johnston, Ross County Dundee, St Mirren
00:12:58against Kilmarnock and Dundee United against Rangers on the Sunday.
00:13:02So by the time Dundee United and Rangers lock horns at Tannadise,
00:13:06there could be an even bigger gap at the top for Celtic
00:13:10and Aberdeen if they were to win their games respectively.
00:13:13So let's talk about that first one. Celtic, Harps, Johnston,
00:13:16Taylor, Forest, all trained.
00:13:18So, you know, everything seems to be rosy for them going into this match.
00:13:23Yes, it certainly does, you know, and they've proved again
00:13:26the first 10-15 minutes at the end of the games at home,
00:13:29you know, the opposition have to be on their toes.
00:13:31They can't afford to lose in that space of time
00:13:36as Celtic just go into overdrive.
00:13:37So, I mean, I think Harps will have to have some kind of game plan
00:13:41because things aren't going particularly well for them just now.
00:13:44In the dressing room, there'll be apprehension.
00:13:46They can't say they're going to be positive going into this game,
00:13:49thinking they're going to win it.
00:13:51So I think the best they can do at this,
00:13:53the really best they can be would be a draw or damage limitations.
00:13:57Yeah, this is what the Celtic manager and the camp had to say ahead of the game.
00:14:02Of course, I think the emphasis from Brendan Rodgers
00:14:07is basically trying to look forward to the fact that they've got Greg Taylor
00:14:14looking to try and get him on a longer-term deal, I'm led to believe,
00:14:19which gives you an indication of the strength they've got now in depth
00:14:23and the competition they've got.
00:14:25Yeah, absolutely.
00:14:25I think left back is an area where Celtic have been looking for reinforcements.
00:14:30They obviously managed to bring in the boy from Barcelona in the window
00:14:35and I thought it was interesting.
00:14:36I thought Greg Taylor played out his skin against Rangers in the game
00:14:40just before the international break.
00:14:42I think clearly it's an area of the park where they've needed a bit of competition.
00:14:47However, I think it'd be harsh on Taylor just now to go out the team.
00:14:50I think he's done enough to stay in for the time being
00:14:53and it'll be interesting to see.
00:14:55I think he's probably warranted a new deal at Celtic.
00:14:58Yeah, absolutely.
00:14:59And I think the other thing about it,
00:15:01a lot of people are looking and thinking maybe his time's up.
00:15:04I don't think, I don't see that at all.
00:15:05I think Darren, as you know, Greg Taylor, like everybody else,
00:15:11you thrive off a bit of competition.
00:15:14100%, yeah.
00:15:15And they brought the young boy in and we don't know what he's like.
00:15:17Everyone thinks because he's come from Barcelona he's going to be a superstar.
00:15:20Yeah.
00:15:21But they've just signed him on a five-year deal,
00:15:22so he mustn't be a bad player.
00:15:24But I think, Alisson, I think you're 100% right.
00:15:27I think against Rangers he was outstanding,
00:15:29and as was Scales.
00:15:31As was the whole team, but as was Scales.
00:15:34And those guys, and Brendan said it himself,
00:15:37that Scales is not sexy, but what would I have done without him?
00:15:40And I think Greg Taylor as well.
00:15:42The way they play, the way he goes into the middle.
00:15:44Boys with great, humble attitude.
00:15:46Boys that you can see go in, work their socks off,
00:15:49do their job for the team.
00:15:50Again, I think that's what Brendan's saying,
00:15:53the Scottish boys or the British boys don't get as much as the foreign players,
00:15:58which is right, it's always been the same.
00:16:01But I think Greg Taylor does deserve a new deal.
00:16:05I think he has been fantastic.
00:16:07Everyone will always look, how can they do the Champions League?
00:16:11But it's not just Greg Taylor that Celtic have struggled in the Champions League.
00:16:16It's all over the pitch, but yeah, I think he's been outstanding.
00:16:21Of course, Celtic themselves as a team have been outstanding
00:16:25since the start of the season,
00:16:26and obviously on a high after the win over Rangers.
00:16:29Interestingly enough, Ruffey, only one more match away from equaling a record
00:16:33that I think was back in 1906, 1907, which is...
00:16:38Ruffey's first season.
00:16:39Yeah, exactly, just moved from Departic Thistle.
00:16:45It's five games without conceding a goal in the league.
00:16:50Yeah, and they've been impressive, particularly at home.
00:16:53You know, I'm not going to start knocking the other teams
00:16:56because they go and do their best,
00:16:57but they're way short of Celtic,
00:16:59you know, with the players that Celtic have got just now.
00:17:02And we've been talking about this Celtic team,
00:17:05you know, there doesn't seem to be any flaws,
00:17:07particularly in the home competition.
00:17:09So I haven't seen any weak link yet.
00:17:12I mean, there's nobody really set about them,
00:17:14you know, and there's nobody had them pinned against the wall
00:17:18or under pressure.
00:17:19So until that happens, which will probably be the Champions League
00:17:22when they come against better sides,
00:17:24but certainly at home, at this moment in time, they look invincible.
00:17:28Yeah, oh, managed to get that wee line in.
00:17:31You could probably say the first 10 minutes of the Old Firm game,
00:17:33they were under pressure a bit.
00:17:36Yeah, but they came through and the way they got a hold of the game
00:17:39and kind of dominated the game,
00:17:41it's just experience.
00:17:44They've got great experience.
00:17:46And I think the last two goalkeepers have been unbelievable signings.
00:17:50Yeah.
00:17:50I think Speichels, when they were talking about signing him,
00:17:53people are obviously looking and saying,
00:17:55I mean, Brendan, obviously, it was great that he's worked with them before.
00:17:58Yeah.
00:17:59But I think he's been tremendous.
00:18:02Yeah, we are about to find out
00:18:04how tremendous he is in the Champions League group stages.
00:18:08And it's a big week coming up.
00:18:10We'll be looking at all the European games in the Champions League
00:18:14and then the Europa League and Conference.
00:18:17As far as this is concerned, this game, it's Celtic against Hearts.
00:18:20Hearts need it like a hole in the head.
00:18:22There's all the talk that Steven Acewood could be under real pressure.
00:18:25Alisson was having a chat with a former Jumbo.
00:18:28He played for Celtic as well.
00:18:29Paul Hartley, who's now the manager at Cove,
00:18:32about the pressure on Steven Acewood.
00:18:37And we'll come back to that just shortly.
00:18:39Obviously, from his point of view,
00:18:41Paul Hartley in the discussions with you, Ali,
00:18:44had mentioned that quite simply he thinks he's got credit in the bank.
00:18:49Yeah, that was a phrase he used.
00:18:50He was saying he thinks it would be harsh to judge Steven on tomorrow's game,
00:18:55regardless of how that may go.
00:18:57And also that he felt as though the European aspect of this season
00:19:01had been difficult for Hearts to deal with.
00:19:03He was saying that clubs outwith of Celtic and Rangers
00:19:06toil at the opening weeks of the season
00:19:08when you see them trying to compete in European qualifiers
00:19:12and come back to domestic action,
00:19:14that they all don't really have the resources to be able to do so.
00:19:18So he was saying he thinks that,
00:19:20given a bit of time over the next couple of months,
00:19:22that Steven Naismith will take Hearts back to where they were
00:19:26towards the end of last season.
00:19:27And I think his point was that he needs to be given a wee bit of time.
00:19:33It's just too early to make a judgment just yet on him.
00:19:36I'll get the thoughts of you guys in a moment.
00:19:37Kerry Pollock was through at the Orium to hear from the manager.
00:19:41This weekend in the Scottish Premiership,
00:19:43Hearts take on Celtic in Glasgow.
00:19:44And with 10 games without a win,
00:19:46Steven Naismith admits the football hasn't been the best,
00:19:48but something else also isn't going in his favour.
00:19:51There's been moments that we've not been good enough.
00:19:53There's been small details in games that have cost us big.
00:19:57And then I also think we've not had any bit of luck.
00:20:00The last Dundee United goal comes from a deflection,
00:20:03because then in the first half,
00:20:04Penrice has a deflected shot and it just goes past the post.
00:20:07These wee moments aren't going for us as well.
00:20:09And when that all adds up, it costs you.
00:20:12Midfielder Kammy Devlin has penned his future to the club until 2026
00:20:16and has made it clear what his ambitions are
00:20:18of what he would like to achieve during his time in the capital.
00:20:21The one thing that I've made quite clear since I've been here
00:20:24is obviously coming third is great.
00:20:26And, you know, when I came here,
00:20:28I wasn't really sure on European football.
00:20:29I didn't really know that was a possibility.
00:20:31That's the kind of thing you're saying.
00:20:32I didn't know what I was getting into.
00:20:34So I've done that, you know, two and a half years last year we played,
00:20:37but we weren't in the group stage.
00:20:38So this year we got that to look forward to and end my first season.
00:20:41But the one thing I've made so clear that I want to do
00:20:45in the next few years and beyond is win a cup.
00:20:49I just feel like that would be the best thing, you know.
00:20:52Premiership action returns for the Tincastle outfit this weekend
00:20:55at Celtic Park kick-off. Is that three o'clock?
00:20:58Yeah, Kammy Devlin, New Deal, 2026.
00:21:01The one thing that he hasn't had in his favour,
00:21:05and this is a big problem, Darren.
00:21:06If you don't get your striker, your top man,
00:21:08who's been banging the goals in last season, if he's not scoring,
00:21:11then you can suddenly feel the heat and you're in trouble.
00:21:15I mean, that's two seasons in a row he's been phenomenal, really, Lawrence.
00:21:19And when he's not scoring, that's been the problem.
00:21:23When he's not scoring over the last two seasons,
00:21:25nobody else is really scoring.
00:21:26Vargas will maybe get five or six goals a season,
00:21:30which everyone's going to have to stand up and be counting.
00:21:33Tomorrow, I think you're right about what Paul Harley said.
00:21:36It's hard to judge tomorrow.
00:21:38The way Celtic are playing, the way Hearts are playing,
00:21:40listen, you never know what can happen in a game.
00:21:44Celtic could win this game comfortably if Hearts don't.
00:21:49You always say in the first 20 minutes,
00:21:52because Celtic will come out the blocks,
00:21:54they've not had a game for two weeks,
00:21:55they'll be buzzing to get started.
00:21:57Does a hammering put them under pressure?
00:22:00I think a hammering always puts anyone under pressure
00:22:02if you're losing games, Peter.
00:22:04I think it's very hard to judge someone on...
00:22:08He's not getting judged on Celtic,
00:22:10he's not getting judged on 1-1 in 16.
00:22:13Stephen will know that's not good enough for a Hearts manager.
00:22:17But I don't think tomorrow should come into the equation
00:22:22should he go or should he not go.
00:22:24He'll be looking for his players.
00:22:26They have to be brave tomorrow.
00:22:27There's one thing, without the ball,
00:22:29you know you're not going to have a lot of the ball.
00:22:30You're going to have to be brave without the ball.
00:22:33But then when they get the ball,
00:22:34again, you always say you have to be brave with the ball
00:22:37and if they're going to do anything.
00:22:39Because you can't be pinned in for 90 minutes.
00:22:42They need to try and be brave and get up the pitch
00:22:44and try and cause Celtic problems,
00:22:46which other teams have caused Celtic problems.
00:22:49Again, Ruffey's...
00:22:51I don't think he meant they're going to be invincible,
00:22:53but just now they do look.
00:22:55But you never know until you have a go at them.
00:22:57Yeah, the other big problem here is
00:22:59he's been without key players.
00:23:01Beninga I thought was an excellent player from last season.
00:23:04The other thing about it as well, Ruffey,
00:23:06is he managed to turn it around last season
00:23:08by beating Celtic.
00:23:10So that was a positive for him.
00:23:11And then they went on a run of maybe 11 games
00:23:14without losing.
00:23:16So there's a key point where he was able to turn it around
00:23:19when he was under pressure last season
00:23:21and then they just comfortably finished third
00:23:23to his credit.
00:23:25So it's about trying to get that right mix
00:23:29and obviously having a right goal
00:23:31and not allowing Celtic,
00:23:33a different type of Celtic this time around I have to say,
00:23:36than the one they faced last season.
00:23:38Because Celtic were stuttering at times last season.
00:23:41Yeah, but again I think some of the Hearts fans
00:23:43have to be a bit realistic
00:23:45because before the season started
00:23:47all the fans were going,
00:23:48how good is he bringing in all the players early?
00:23:51He's brought in four or five players.
00:23:53He's a way ahead of everybody else.
00:23:55Sometimes these players take time to settle.
00:23:57It doesn't matter who they are.
00:23:59I don't think Spittle has settled particularly.
00:24:02Dander for me was the best player of the league last year.
00:24:06He hasn't really set the Heather on fire yet
00:24:08but I still think Darn's right.
00:24:11You can't judge him on this Celtic one.
00:24:13I think he's got enough bonus points with the board.
00:24:16I think unfortunately that Hearts segment of support
00:24:19that I've never really got behind them
00:24:21are just not helping.
00:24:23And a bad result tomorrow,
00:24:25that segment will just jump on a bad one.
00:24:27Yeah, what the bandwagon?
00:24:29I was just wondering if there was a new type of wagon
00:24:31that you'd invented there, Ruffey.
00:24:33Yeah, I speak to a lot of Hearts fans,
00:24:35speaking to one this afternoon, an absolute diehard.
00:24:37And he was saying, I said,
00:24:39are you going to the game?
00:24:40And he says, not a chance.
00:24:41I'm going to go and play golf.
00:24:43Because he just fears the worst
00:24:44against the Celtic side, he thinks.
00:24:46And he again said to me,
00:24:49a lot of Hearts fans want him out.
00:24:52There's that groundswell.
00:24:53I hope that the board stick with him.
00:24:55I like him.
00:24:56I think he's got credit, as Paul Hartley mentioned.
00:24:59I think they should stick with him.
00:25:01Whether they will or not is another matter.
00:25:03Thanks to so many of you
00:25:05for just posting your thoughts on that game.
00:25:09Ruffey, your prediction?
00:25:11I think Hearts are on the end of a hiding tomorrow.
00:25:13I think Celtic will win 4-0.
00:25:15And I very rarely say 4-0 on this programme.
00:25:18Well, I think Craig Gordon will have something to say about that.
00:25:21I think it's always good going back to your old club
00:25:24and putting on a performance.
00:25:25I think you probably will do.
00:25:273-0?
00:25:28No, no, no.
00:25:29I think he'll keep it, didn't he?
00:25:312-0.
00:25:32A comfortable 2 or a really tough one?
00:25:34A really comfortable 2.
00:25:35Yeah.
00:25:36Darn.
00:25:37It's hard to pair two ex-clubs
00:25:39and take great time in both of them.
00:25:41It's hard to say, but...
00:25:44Yeah, I can see 3-0.
00:25:473-0 Celtic.
00:25:48The great thing about having you on, Darn,
00:25:50is every club is your ex-club.
00:25:51I love that, by the way.
00:25:52Only you and Chick Charlie
00:25:54have got an extensive knowledge of every division.
00:25:57Only Darn have played in Derbys.
00:25:59How many Derbys have you played in?
00:26:02Celtic 1, 2...
00:26:03I've played in three.
00:26:04With Dundee, Edinburgh and North East.
00:26:07Yeah.
00:26:08Did you play...
00:26:09Did you get a Newcastle Sunderland?
00:26:11Yeah.
00:26:12As well? Brilliant.
00:26:13Newcastle, Meadowbank, Celtic, Harps,
00:26:16Hibs, Dundee United.
00:26:19Anybody else I've missed?
00:26:20St Johnston.
00:26:21And St Johnston at the tail end as well.
00:26:23And China for eight days.
00:26:24China, yeah.
00:26:25Eight days.
00:26:26I was gutted you never won Player of the Year in that.
00:26:28Coventry.
00:26:29Yeah, Coventry as well.
00:26:30China, eight days.
00:26:32I knew you would like the front.
00:26:35You didn't know that, did you, Ali?
00:26:36I didn't.
00:26:37That was the day he just kept blanking my call
00:26:39as I wanted an insight into Chinese football.
00:26:41I'll tell you, we got a real insight 24 hours later
00:26:44at Tanadise.
00:26:45It's Dundee United against Rangers on the Sunday
00:26:48and Blair Malloy's been out there
00:26:51at the Rangers training centre
00:26:52to find out what Philippe Clement
00:26:55makes of not only Rangers' predicament at the moment
00:26:58after losing that game to Celtic,
00:27:00but all the talk about the captain, James Tavernier.
00:27:03It's been almost two weeks since the scenes
00:27:05of some Rangers fans confronting their team
00:27:07outside Ibrox after that 3-0 Old Firm derby defeat
00:27:10swept across social media.
00:27:12And manager Philippe Clement said
00:27:14although he understands the frustration of fans,
00:27:16he does not think the anger shown that day
00:27:18is indicative of the entire support.
00:27:20We had the same frustration
00:27:23and the anger inside of us.
00:27:26So, in a way, you understand things.
00:27:30In another way, it depends what words are used in that way.
00:27:34So, that happened that moment
00:27:37in the heat of the night or the afternoon.
00:27:40I've been now 10, 12 days longer in Glasgow after also.
00:27:46And I met a lot of fans who reacted
00:27:50in a totally different way
00:27:52and were very positive and supporting the team and the club.
00:27:57Much of the ire of Rangers fans
00:27:59was directed at captain James Tavernier.
00:28:01And his manager has praised the maturity
00:28:03with which he's dealt with the situation,
00:28:05but admits the pressure he faces
00:28:07is just part and parcel of being a captain.
00:28:09I had the same experiences before in Bruges
00:28:15and I was there 10 years like that.
00:28:19And in the moments when it's really good,
00:28:22it's really nice to be captain
00:28:24and in the moments when the team doesn't perform
00:28:27and it's not only about you, it's about the team
00:28:30and you don't reach the expectations of the fans at the moment,
00:28:34you're the first one that they talk to
00:28:37or that they yell to at that moment.
00:28:40So, I had these moments also in my career.
00:28:42It's part of being a captain.
00:28:44It's part of being a captain
00:28:45and I have to say he takes it really mature.
00:28:48The Rangers manager will be hoping to get his side back on track
00:28:51as they take on Dundee United at Tannedyce
00:28:53this Sunday at 12pm.
00:28:55Yeah, really looking at it,
00:28:57it could be an absolute cracker.
00:29:00Lots of people obviously will give their opinion
00:29:02on how they think it's going to go.
00:29:04It's certainly a tough call
00:29:05when you consider Dundee United's start to the season.
00:29:07Yeah, I think they've been very impressive.
00:29:09I think Dundee United will feel as though there's a freedom
00:29:14in this game.
00:29:15I think they'll also sense a weakness in Rangers
00:29:18just the way that they've started the season
00:29:20and also the noise just around the team
00:29:23and around the club in the aftermath of that game
00:29:26and defeat to Celtic.
00:29:28I think Rangers will probably win.
00:29:30I think they'll be too strong for Dundee United.
00:29:33I think they'll prevail simply because they have to.
00:29:35I think anything other than three points on Sunday
00:29:39will invite another fresh wave of pressure under Philip Clement.
00:29:43I think they will, for that reason,
00:29:45go and get the win by whatever means necessary.
00:29:48But I think it'll be a difficult afternoon for them.
00:29:50I think they'll know that they've been in a game.
00:29:52The fallout from the defeat to Celtic has been dramatic, Ruffey.
00:29:57At times I thought some of it was way over the top.
00:30:01Nobody likes to lose a Glasgow derby.
00:30:04But over and above that, it's early days.
00:30:08He certainly was on the charm offensive this week,
00:30:11Philip Clement, speaking to fans at the Charity Foundation dinner.
00:30:16I think the only thing I would say about him is
00:30:20I think he's walking a tightrope now all the way to January 2nd.
00:30:23They have to stay on Celtic's coattails.
00:30:26At any interview he does or anything he says,
00:30:29he's trying to keep everything together.
00:30:31Obviously, they carry on with the stand and Celtic beating them.
00:30:35He's putting out excuses there
00:30:37and putting out a lot of things
00:30:40that he hopes some of the Rangers supporters will buy into.
00:30:43That there isn't a big gap and all that.
00:30:45Carry on.
00:30:46But he himself will know the truth, that there is a gap there.
00:30:49So you're right, he needs to get performances.
00:30:51He needs to get wins.
00:30:53I'm different for Ali.
00:30:56I don't think Dundee United have beaten anybody of any significance this year.
00:31:00So I'm going to go, Rangers, to win this one 2-0.
00:31:04So a comfortable 2-0 for you.
00:31:07They've beaten Hearts, St Johnston and St Mirren
00:31:11and Ross County and drew with Dundee.
00:31:13And then of course, as you mentioned, the early games in the League Cup.
00:31:18I don't know where the story gathered pace.
00:31:20It could be an agent.
00:31:21It could be maybe James Tavernier was testing the ground
00:31:24or maybe Rangers were trying to flush out somebody to buy him.
00:31:27I didn't see James Tavernier leaving.
00:31:31I just thought that whole thing, if it did gather pace
00:31:34and was something that had any substance to it,
00:31:37it would be an act of lunacy on my part.
00:31:39Yeah, well you could only see it that they wanted to get him off the wager wheel, Peter.
00:31:44Because I would imagine he's one of the highest paid players there.
00:31:47Because what he's done.
00:31:49And listen, I've been critical of James Tavernier to the extent of
00:31:54he's been there eight years and he's only won one title.
00:32:00But everything else, his play, his goals, his assists, his quality,
00:32:06his deliveries into the box, Rangers need Tavernier just now.
00:32:13Philip Clement is talking about, I've had it when I was at Bruges
00:32:18and I'm not being disrespectful to Bruges.
00:32:20I'll be nothing like Rangers in Celtic.
00:32:24I'll be nothing like, and James Tavernier is under pressure
00:32:27because he is captain.
00:32:28And this is where you've probably played under unbelievable captains
00:32:33that need to stand up and tell the players what this,
00:32:37I don't know if they have meetings inside and all that,
00:32:40tell the players what's needed here and what this is all about,
00:32:43what the club's all about.
00:32:44That's what they need just now.
00:32:46And I think at Tanadise, Dunn United, I can only see Jim Goodwin saying
00:32:51we need to start, get right out the blocks here
00:32:54and put them under severe pressure.
00:32:56Especially, I always like going down the hill in the second half
00:33:00into the Dunn United fans.
00:33:02But I think going down the hill in the first half
00:33:05and having a right go and putting Rangers under pressure.
00:33:10But again, I think Rangers will stand up to it tomorrow,
00:33:14I think on Sunday.
00:33:16I think they'll win 2-1.
00:33:19The Tavernier thing, they've not really helped themselves
00:33:22with all the speculation about this.
00:33:24Is he going, is he not going?
00:33:26Because as soon as he makes a mistake, fans are just fans.
00:33:29They go, does he want to be here or does he not want to be here?
00:33:32I don't think he's played the way he has.
00:33:35He's never got far.
00:33:36And take the Celtic game out of it.
00:33:38Even some of his crossings, crossing out the park,
00:33:42you've never seen that from James Tavernier.
00:33:44He does look a different type of player.
00:33:46He does look like, does he want to leave?
00:33:50And I'm not saying he played bad to leave,
00:33:53but his confidence looks shattered as well
00:33:56because his quality is incredible.
00:33:59But it's just not been the standard that he's set.
00:34:02Yeah, another thing that will never go away is,
00:34:05and this is I think very much a British thing,
00:34:08we tend to try and highlight the negatives of what he can't do
00:34:11rather than all the positives of what he has done.
00:34:14He's a full-back who's scored over 130 goals.
00:34:17I mean, give me peace.
00:34:19I don't know many right-backs that have scored 130 goals
00:34:23unless you're Danny Alves or Cafu.
00:34:26But the problem here is,
00:34:29sometimes we're always tagging someone and saying,
00:34:33right, you're a right-back and that's it, you can do nothing else.
00:34:36Maybe another manager would come in and see him,
00:34:39and I don't see him as a right-back.
00:34:41I just don't see him as a right-back.
00:34:43Celtic fans will not bother
00:34:45if Alistair Johnson never scores another goal for Celtic.
00:34:48Yeah, defence.
00:34:49As long as he defends.
00:34:50Yeah, absolutely.
00:34:51Because you've got players up the pitch,
00:34:52they've got all the players,
00:34:53the two midfield players,
00:34:54they've got the three forwards that will score the goals.
00:34:57So it's been unfair to Tavernier.
00:34:59So the fans that are relying on, by the way,
00:35:02at times, relying on Tavernier to get the goals,
00:35:05him and Decers are really the ones that get the goals.
00:35:08But as I say, Celtic fans will not bother
00:35:10if Alistair Johnson doesn't score.
00:35:12Which is a sad indictment of that team, Ali, that those two...
00:35:15Yeah, absolutely.
00:35:16I think not just this team,
00:35:17even previous teams too, previous seasons.
00:35:20I think he's shouldered a lot of responsibility.
00:35:23I would say there are very clear defensive deficiencies
00:35:26within his game.
00:35:27I think you can look and see the goal return is fantastic,
00:35:31coming from a right-back.
00:35:32I think he's dug Rangers out at Hull a lot of times
00:35:34with big goals at key moments in games.
00:35:37However, I think when Rangers play quality opposition in Europe,
00:35:42when they come up against Celtic,
00:35:44you do see that he is exposed in a defensive sense.
00:35:47Yeah.
00:35:48Okay, what about Aberdeen?
00:35:50They've got Motherwell.
00:35:51Up at Patagio, I'm looking forward to it, Raff.
00:35:52I thought I'd nip up there to the Granite City,
00:35:54see what all the fuss is about.
00:35:55Yeah, well, as I said last week,
00:35:57any time I see the highlights up there,
00:35:59the banners are up, the flags are up,
00:36:00behind that goal, they're everywhere.
00:36:02You love flags.
00:36:03I haven't seen it at Aberdeen for a long, long time.
00:36:06And they've bought into what the new manager's doing.
00:36:09You see that tomorrow, the place looks abuzz.
00:36:12Back to where it was before.
00:36:14Again, we've talked about who they've beat.
00:36:16They've not really beaten any of the big ones yet,
00:36:18but they're winning games,
00:36:20and the fans have bought into everything he's done,
00:36:22and they're playing good football.
00:36:23Yeah, I can't wait to see what reception Duke will get.
00:36:26We were going to start a campaign,
00:36:28the search for Duke, but he showed up.
00:36:30He's back there.
00:36:31Here's the manager of the one, Jimmy Tully.
00:36:33For me, it's not the most important thing.
00:36:36The most important thing is here.
00:36:39You can't change the past anyway.
00:36:46Now we have to focus on the future
00:36:49and what we can give to the team from now and forward.
00:36:52That's more interesting for me,
00:36:54and not what's happened.
00:36:56They had a good talk, the club and him,
00:36:59and now he's back and he's integrated well with the players.
00:37:02Now we have to be optimistic about the situation
00:37:05and give everything in the training.
00:37:07Give something for the team.
00:37:09That's my focus.
00:37:11Can you imagine if he walked into Celtic dressing room?
00:37:15He'd have got stank.
00:37:17He'd have to have a really strong build
00:37:19walking into a dressing room
00:37:21with the way players are and a bit of banter.
00:37:23He'd have to be strong enough to take any banter
00:37:25that's coming his way.
00:37:27I think he'll get pelted in that dressing room.
00:37:30Yeah, players like to get pelted.
00:37:35I would have enjoyed that.
00:37:37There was fair banter when you had your brain operation.
00:37:41I don't think too many people let you off the hook there, did they?
00:37:44Oh no, no.
00:37:47I'll tell you the story.
00:37:49When Stubbsy, Jackie, Tommy and Simon came into the hospital
00:37:56and I was lying in my bed with tubes coming out of my nose
00:37:59and coming out of my head.
00:38:01I was lying there in the UK and all that.
00:38:03I did television and all that.
00:38:05Just the remote control.
00:38:08He says, right, we're away now and all that.
00:38:10He just took the remote control away and put a porno in there.
00:38:22I didn't expect you to say that
00:38:24but that's exactly the type of thing
00:38:26that those characters would do.
00:38:28To be fair, that's the camaraderie of it all.
00:38:30But listen, he's got to come back.
00:38:32We all know the circumstances.
00:38:34You don't come back, you won't be able to play anywhere.
00:38:37So he's back.
00:38:39And boy, it's an impressive run of games.
00:38:43And if they win against Motherwell, then...
00:38:47It's interesting, isn't it?
00:38:49It would be maybe a different story
00:38:51if he was walking into a team who hadn't been winning.
00:38:53So you're coming back into a whole groundswell
00:38:57of optimism, encouragement.
00:38:59This wave of excitement about Jimmy Tillian.
00:39:03Whether or not it's grounded in reality
00:39:05is a whole other thing.
00:39:07We'll discuss that at the end of October.
00:39:09That's a whole other thing.
00:39:11But at the minute, these fans are delighted
00:39:13with the team, with the direction the team is going.
00:39:17There is a feel-good factor around Petardrie.
00:39:20And I think that may just extend
00:39:22to a welcome back to the fold.
00:39:25I think if they hadn't been winning it,
00:39:27they might have found the reception very different.
00:39:29But you look at Motherwell and what they're doing,
00:39:34and you see Aberdeen at home,
00:39:37everything seems to be...
00:39:39Not only a feel-good factor,
00:39:41but Aberdeen at home, if they're winning,
00:39:43suddenly the fans think,
00:39:45we're going to go and follow them in great numbers
00:39:47away from home as well.
00:39:48Yeah, and I think what you've seen is
00:39:49they've ground out wins in certain games.
00:39:51Certain games they'll look as though
00:39:53they've maybe been about to drop points.
00:39:55The last game before the international break,
00:39:57we have a mini-pitch invasion when there's a winner.
00:40:00I think they've got themselves over the line
00:40:03when they've needed to.
00:40:04It's maybe not always been fantastic performances,
00:40:08but they've been winning games.
00:40:09And I think that's so important
00:40:10for a new manager coming in.
00:40:12Just being able to set a very immediate tone
00:40:16and have everyone on side.
00:40:17You're not fighting against the current at any point.
00:40:20You've got everyone behind you.
00:40:21And it's a case now of being able to lay a foundation
00:40:24and build upon it.
00:40:25I think they'll win tomorrow.
00:40:27I think they'll beat Mullerwell.
00:40:29I fancy them to be the third force this season, I think.
00:40:34I fancy them.
00:40:36Yeah, I fancy them on Saturday.
00:40:38Listen, we all know it's all about confidence.
00:40:41And you're 100% right about Duke.
00:40:44If they'd been losing,
00:40:47it would have been putting an arm around them.
00:40:48Yeah, we need you back in.
00:40:50But they don't need him now.
00:40:52He has to make up with everybody
00:40:55to try and get back in the team.
00:40:57And it can only be a positive
00:40:58because he was a good player for them.
00:40:59So you're bringing someone that you know on the bench
00:41:01that can come on and do something.
00:41:04But listen, it's all about luck as well.
00:41:10When we saw Stephen Naismith's interview,
00:41:14the Dunedin United goal was a deflection
00:41:16and they had a deflection in the first half.
00:41:18It went the wrong side of the post.
00:41:19When things are going for you, it's brilliant.
00:41:21And Aberdeen will take everything just now.
00:41:23You spoke about how Aberdeen have always had
00:41:25a great away support, Peter, haven't they?
00:41:27Everywhere you go, it's incredible.
00:41:30But they needed to get Petaudry.
00:41:32I've always believed that Aberdeen,
00:41:34I think everyone, they've lived in the past
00:41:37for too long.
00:41:39They need to make new memories now
00:41:41and just now, they're making them.
00:41:43Yeah, I'm looking at their side.
00:41:45I mean, there's a new generation of,
00:41:48I would say there's a new generation of Aberdeen fans
00:41:51and prior to that, a lot of Aberdeen fans
00:41:55are not obsessed by Fergie.
00:41:57They just want to see a team give their all
00:42:00and try and win games.
00:42:02The difference now is, and I think this is
00:42:04the key element of it, Ruffey,
00:42:06they've got players that have got a trick.
00:42:09Now, Keskinen looks as if he's not bad,
00:42:11he's got something to offer.
00:42:13He got absolute pelters in midweek
00:42:15for not playing in his teammate
00:42:17in that game against England
00:42:18that could have given them a lead.
00:42:20He looks good, Nielsen looks good.
00:42:23They're talking about McGrath being able to move.
00:42:27McGrath's been able to move a little bit
00:42:29further forward with the freedom now
00:42:31along with Shinny.
00:42:33So they've got this kind of a solidity.
00:42:36They've got the ability to win games,
00:42:38which is something that previous Aberdeen sides
00:42:41over the last couple of years,
00:42:43they were giving away goals at the back
00:42:44that were just criminal
00:42:45and it cost managers jobs.
00:42:47Yeah, last year was horrendous
00:42:48if you were an Aberdeen supporter,
00:42:50to be in the bottom six for most of the season
00:42:53and to hang on in there waiting to change.
00:42:56I think it was the centre-halves
00:42:57where most of the problem,
00:42:59I think the goalkeeper was okay,
00:43:01but they've got the young boys at McKenzie,
00:43:03the full-back in there.
00:43:05I think they're looking a wee bit solid yet,
00:43:08but again, I know they're on a good run.
00:43:10They haven't played a Hibbs or Harts
00:43:12or Rangers or Celtic.
00:43:14I think if they'd come through their games
00:43:16with good results,
00:43:17then you would be going,
00:43:18well, this is a new Aberdeen side.
00:43:21Until that actually happens,
00:43:22then I'm still waiting.
00:43:24Calm down.
00:43:25October's the big month, Ruffie.
00:43:27We've said to you,
00:43:28we're looking at Aberdeen
00:43:29and we're saying to ourselves,
00:43:30right, they've got nine wins.
00:43:33They've got Motherwell,
00:43:34then they've got Spartans,
00:43:35Winnable, Dundee, Winnable, Harts,
00:43:38and then in the middle of October,
00:43:40they've got Celtic, Dundee United and Rangers.
00:43:43And that's the time,
00:43:44once we get to our programme on,
00:43:47I think it's,
00:43:48if I have a look here,
00:43:50the 2nd of November is the,
00:43:53in fact, the Wednesday is
00:43:54Aberdeen against Rangers at Bataudrie
00:43:56on the 30th of October.
00:43:58So on the 31st,
00:44:00the show is going to be
00:44:01an absolute howitzer, Ruffie,
00:44:02because we'll get a chance to.
00:44:03I would go as far as to say
00:44:04that game could be
00:44:07maybe a decision
00:44:08who's going to be second or third.
00:44:11What, the Aberdeen Rangers game?
00:44:13Not at the end of the season,
00:44:14after that game.
00:44:16Oh, that's a big call, Ruffie.
00:44:17No, with the run-up,
00:44:18you've given me Aberdeen there.
00:44:20The Rangers would have to
00:44:21equal everything they've done
00:44:23coming up to that game
00:44:24and that game,
00:44:25I think it'll be tight
00:44:26and I think if Aberdeen win it,
00:44:27they could probably be second.
00:44:29There you are.
00:44:30Ruffie's taking the heat off everybody.
00:44:33By the way, Darren,
00:44:34you can say anything now,
00:44:36all the way to the end of the show.
00:44:38Ruffie's taken the heat off his alley,
00:44:39hasn't he?
00:44:41Yeah, I think Rangers will be second.
00:44:43You agree with me?
00:44:44No, I think Rangers will be
00:44:45comfortably second this season.
00:44:47Comfortably?
00:44:48No, I'm talking about up to that game.
00:44:50Oh, so you're not talking about
00:44:51the championing in its entirety?
00:44:52No, I'm talking about up to that,
00:44:53win that game, win that game.
00:44:55And the teams that Aberdeen
00:44:56are going to play,
00:44:58I would think Rangers
00:44:59are probably harder games
00:45:01than what Aberdeen have got
00:45:02up until that game.
00:45:04I agree with you, Ali,
00:45:05I think Rangers will be second.
00:45:07Come May, I think.
00:45:08People have a run
00:45:09and they do very well.
00:45:11And once they've got
00:45:12a couple of injuries,
00:45:13it's hard to replace that.
00:45:15There's that many teams,
00:45:17was it Aberdeen a few years ago?
00:45:20Celtic.
00:45:21Celtic, yes,
00:45:22and they always thought
00:45:24Aberdeen can do it.
00:45:26What have Rangers got
00:45:27then up to that game?
00:45:28Well, I was just about to say
00:45:29to you, Ruffie,
00:45:30since you opened your gob.
00:45:32They've got Dundee United away,
00:45:33they've got Dundee at home,
00:45:35they've got Malmo away,
00:45:37because remember,
00:45:38they've got European games,
00:45:39they've got Malmo away,
00:45:40they've got Hibs at home,
00:45:41Lyon, then St Johnstone at home,
00:45:43and then they've got
00:45:44Kilmarnock, Stour Brookrest,
00:45:46and then St Mirren,
00:45:47and then Aberdeen
00:45:48on the 30th of October.
00:45:50Now the one thing that goes
00:45:51against it all,
00:45:52the one thing,
00:45:53is Europe.
00:45:54Rangers have always been
00:45:55in the last five years.
00:45:56You say they've got
00:45:57St Johnstone, they've got Hibs,
00:45:58and then they've got Dundee,
00:46:00Hibs and St Johnstone at home.
00:46:02Yeah.
00:46:03Yeah, I mean,
00:46:04they would think
00:46:05that's a good run for us.
00:46:07Yeah.
00:46:08Absolutely.
00:46:09I mean,
00:46:10I think,
00:46:11you know,
00:46:12as I've said,
00:46:13I think he's walking
00:46:14a tightrope,
00:46:15where he's got to make sure
00:46:16that they're on Celtic's tail
00:46:18till he gets to Ibrox
00:46:20on January 2nd.
00:46:21And January 2nd is where
00:46:22Philippe Clamont,
00:46:23mentioned after the
00:46:25Old Firm game,
00:46:26quite simply,
00:46:27will see in January.
00:46:29So he's thrown down
00:46:30the gauntlet to say
00:46:31we'll be a different team,
00:46:32we'll see how much
00:46:33of a gap there is,
00:46:34we'll see a different Rangers
00:46:36on January 2nd,
00:46:37which,
00:46:38I think,
00:46:39I mean,
00:46:40he said it after the game,
00:46:41we're not putting words
00:46:42in his mouth,
00:46:43that's exactly what he said,
00:46:44and I think that's really,
00:46:46kind of,
00:46:47it's not a pressure for him,
00:46:48he's just said,
00:46:49they've got to get on a run now
00:46:50all the way to January.
00:46:51I think it does put him
00:46:52under pressure,
00:46:53that remark,
00:46:54and I think what it does is,
00:46:55there are five points
00:46:56between the two teams
00:46:57at the minute,
00:46:58I think Rangers can't afford
00:46:59another slip.
00:47:00It's as simple as that.
00:47:01It needs to be perfect
00:47:02from here on in
00:47:03until January,
00:47:04and then hope that they can
00:47:05get back to Celtic
00:47:06when they face them
00:47:07at Ibrox.
00:47:08Sean Maxwell says,
00:47:09Rangers must win a cup
00:47:10or the manager gets his P45.
00:47:11Flying Haggis says,
00:47:12Ruffy's backpedalling,
00:47:13Peter,
00:47:14he's a coward.
00:47:15You're absolutely right,
00:47:16that's 100%,
00:47:17I can't argue with you,
00:47:18because,
00:47:19see as soon as he knows,
00:47:20he's potentially going to be
00:47:21a clip on social media,
00:47:22you can hear the beep,
00:47:23beep,
00:47:24beep of the car reversing,
00:47:25and that's him
00:47:26trying to get out of it.
00:47:27That's what I say
00:47:28after that game,
00:47:29not at the end
00:47:30of the season,
00:47:31not at the end
00:47:32of the season,
00:47:33not at the end
00:47:34of the season,
00:47:35not at the end
00:47:36of the season.
00:47:37Right, okay,
00:47:38Hebbs against St Johnston,
00:47:39I'll tell you one thing,
00:47:40did we give a prediction
00:47:41for Aberdeen against Motherwell?
00:47:44I think Aberdeen
00:47:45won 2-1,
00:47:46I'm going 2-0.
00:47:472-0.
00:47:482-1.
00:47:492-1, okay.
00:47:50Hebbs against St Johnston,
00:47:52I'll tell you,
00:47:53if I was the Hebbs manager,
00:47:54I'd be raging with,
00:47:55you know,
00:47:56the Scotland under-21 boss
00:47:59with Kieran Bowie now,
00:48:01four months out,
00:48:03I mean,
00:48:04this boy was trying
00:48:05to get his fitness going.
00:48:06Yeah, it's brutal,
00:48:07it's brutal for both of them,
00:48:08for the player
00:48:09and for the club,
00:48:10I think,
00:48:11four months,
00:48:12you're talking
00:48:13potentially 2025
00:48:14before you're seeing him
00:48:15back in action.
00:48:16Yeah,
00:48:17I think it'll be,
00:48:18I think he looked lively,
00:48:20he looked bright
00:48:21coming on for Hebbs
00:48:22across recent games,
00:48:23I think that'll be
00:48:24a huge blow
00:48:25for David Gray.
00:48:26Yeah, I agree with that,
00:48:28he looked,
00:48:29when he came on
00:48:30and scored,
00:48:31if he'd been out
00:48:32for a wee while,
00:48:33that would've given him
00:48:34a lot of confidence
00:48:35into the Scotland squad,
00:48:36you know,
00:48:37again,
00:48:38Hebbs will be getting
00:48:39a better player
00:48:40coming back
00:48:41and unfortunately,
00:48:42he's got that injury
00:48:43but they brought
00:48:44somebody else in.
00:48:45Yeah,
00:48:46do you like Dwight Gale?
00:48:47I thought he was a good player.
00:48:48Yeah,
00:48:49yeah,
00:48:50I think so
00:48:51but I just think
00:48:52Hebbs have got to start
00:48:53winning home games,
00:48:54I think Hebbs supporters
00:48:55need to be buying
00:48:56into everything
00:48:57they're trying to do.
00:48:58Yeah,
00:48:59I mean,
00:49:00you have to discuss
00:49:01the narrative
00:49:02that comes out
00:49:03right across
00:49:04Scottish football,
00:49:05from fans,
00:49:06from everyone,
00:49:07pundits,
00:49:08radio stations,
00:49:09newspapers,
00:49:10pressure on managers now
00:49:11to immediately
00:49:12hit the ground running
00:49:13is unbelievable.
00:49:14I think David Gray
00:49:15should just be told,
00:49:16listen David,
00:49:17you're going to hit
00:49:18the skids along the way here,
00:49:19we're going to try
00:49:20and support you,
00:49:21you've got Malky there
00:49:22to help you,
00:49:23get on with it.
00:49:24100%,
00:49:25Peter,
00:49:26you were at the
00:49:27Dundee game,
00:49:28now they're a whisker
00:49:29away from winning
00:49:30the game.
00:49:31Then they go to
00:49:32Kilmarnock
00:49:33and they lose
00:49:34their penalty
00:49:35in the last minute.
00:49:36I know it's hindsight
00:49:37but they could have
00:49:38had six points
00:49:39and David Gray's
00:49:40a good manager.
00:49:41He's made a decision
00:49:42by bringing
00:49:43Bashiri on
00:49:44with not long to go
00:49:45and it gave
00:49:46Dundee territory
00:49:47in the middle
00:49:48of the pitch
00:49:49and they got
00:49:50deeper and deeper
00:49:51but if they win
00:49:52the game
00:49:53you're thinking
00:49:54well he's
00:49:55shut up shop
00:49:56and defensively
00:49:57they've done well
00:49:58so you've got
00:49:59to make decisions
00:50:00and you probably
00:50:01look back
00:50:02and think
00:50:03I should have
00:50:04done that
00:50:05but what I don't like
00:50:06is people like that
00:50:07it's too big a job
00:50:08for his first job
00:50:09but he's been under
00:50:10I think three managers
00:50:11so he's learnt
00:50:12under three managers
00:50:13do you know what I mean?
00:50:14So I see
00:50:15and I think
00:50:16I'm going again
00:50:17tomorrow
00:50:18I think he's got
00:50:19all the backing
00:50:20and I think the Bowie one
00:50:21is a major blow
00:50:22because you saw
00:50:23when he came on
00:50:24by the way
00:50:25he caused Celtic
00:50:26problems when he came on
00:50:27very good
00:50:28I mean
00:50:29when I was a scout
00:50:30with Blackpool
00:50:31I tried to sign him
00:50:32for Blackpool
00:50:33he went to Fulham
00:50:34which I would have
00:50:35gone to Fulham as well
00:50:36but I rate him
00:50:37very highly
00:50:38and it must be
00:50:39a massive blow
00:50:40that
00:50:41I spoke to David
00:50:42I was at the
00:50:4321 game
00:50:44on the Friday night
00:50:45and I said
00:50:46it's good that he's
00:50:47getting
00:50:48again 60 minutes
00:50:49because they didn't
00:50:50want to play him
00:50:51too early
00:50:52because they were
00:50:53worried
00:50:54so it must be
00:50:55a blow
00:50:56he's played
00:50:57Scotland
00:50:58two games
00:50:59and he's out
00:51:00not just a
00:51:01hamstring
00:51:02he's out for
00:51:03four months
00:51:04so he's a
00:51:05major blow
00:51:06but I think you're
00:51:07right with
00:51:08Dwight Gale
00:51:09I looked
00:51:10I'm 34
00:51:11and everyone
00:51:12looks after
00:51:13themselves now
00:51:14but he does
00:51:15he looks really
00:51:16fit
00:51:17he looks slim
00:51:18and he's always
00:51:19scored goals
00:51:20and his attitude
00:51:21no airs and graces
00:51:22about it
00:51:23he just gets on
00:51:24with it
00:51:25I think
00:51:26something
00:51:27dramatic
00:51:28has happened
00:51:29I've watched him
00:51:30play
00:51:31and I liked him
00:51:32at Crystal Palace
00:51:33Newcastle
00:51:34I think he's a
00:51:35dangerous player
00:51:36I think it's a
00:51:37great signing for him
00:51:38just thought I'd
00:51:39mention just one
00:51:40thing today
00:51:41it's Pat Stanton's
00:51:4280th birthday
00:51:43I think I speak
00:51:44from the heart
00:51:45here because
00:51:46I'm a huge fan
00:51:47of Pat Stanton
00:51:48player
00:51:49and as a man
00:51:50we've had him
00:51:51on the show
00:51:52I think if Pat
00:51:53Stanton was available
00:51:54yeah and I think
00:51:55any supporter that's
00:51:56seen him
00:51:57would agree with that
00:51:58he strolled
00:51:59through games
00:52:00you're right
00:52:01when you said
00:52:02he's a fantastic
00:52:03judge of a player
00:52:04since he brought me
00:52:05to him
00:52:06yeah
00:52:07no but
00:52:08anybody's worked
00:52:09under Pat
00:52:10ask any of the
00:52:11boys
00:52:12Ralph Callaghan
00:52:13big George Stewart
00:52:14anybody
00:52:15wee rookie
00:52:16absolute gentleman
00:52:17in the game
00:52:18and someday
00:52:19there's no many
00:52:20times in your
00:52:21career you get to
00:52:22play for a manager
00:52:23and they win
00:52:24games for
00:52:25yeah
00:52:26you know
00:52:27and I think
00:52:28that sums them up
00:52:29wonderful man
00:52:30great man
00:52:31Hibbs
00:52:32I think they're
00:52:33going to win
00:52:342-1
00:52:35I'm going to go
00:52:36for a draw
00:52:37yeah
00:52:38you seen something
00:52:39in St Johnson
00:52:40you think maybe
00:52:41I'm just going to
00:52:42go for a draw
00:52:43I think both
00:52:44have weaknesses
00:52:45in our team
00:52:46I think they will
00:52:47share the points
00:52:48tomorrow
00:52:49yeah
00:52:50I genuinely
00:52:51genuinely hope
00:52:52that
00:52:53I'm going to
00:52:54win
00:52:552-0
00:52:56Hibbs
00:52:572-0
00:52:58Hibbs
00:52:592-0
00:53:00Hibbs
00:53:012-0
00:53:02Hibbs
00:53:032-0
00:53:04Hibbs
00:53:052-0
00:53:06Hibbs
00:53:072-0
00:53:08Hibbs
00:53:092-0
00:53:10Hibbs
00:53:112-0
00:53:12Hibbs
00:53:132-0
00:53:14Hibbs
00:53:152-0
00:53:16Hibbs
00:53:172-0
00:53:18Hibbs
00:53:192-0
00:53:20Hibbs
00:53:212-0
00:53:22Hibbs
00:53:232-0
00:53:24Hibbs
00:53:252-0
00:53:26Hibbs
00:53:272-0
00:53:28Hibbs
00:53:292-0
00:53:30Hibbs
00:53:312-0
00:53:32Hibbs
00:53:332-0
00:53:34Hibbs
00:53:352-0
00:53:36Hibbs
00:53:372-0
00:53:38Hibbs
00:53:392-0
00:53:40Hibbs
00:53:412-0
00:53:42Hibbs
00:53:432-0
00:53:44Hibbs
00:53:452-0
00:53:46Hibbs
00:53:472-0
00:53:48Hibbs
00:53:492-0
00:53:50Hibbs
00:53:512-0
00:53:52Hibbs
00:53:532-0
00:53:54Hibbs
00:53:552-0
00:53:56Hibbs
00:53:572-0
00:53:58Hibbs
00:53:592-0
00:54:00Hibbs
00:54:012-0
00:54:02Hibbs
00:54:032-0
00:54:04Hibbs
00:54:052-0
00:54:06Hibbs
00:54:072-0
00:54:08Hibbs
00:54:092-0
00:54:10Hibbs
00:54:112-0
00:54:12Hibbs
00:54:132-0
00:54:15Hibbs
00:54:162-0
00:54:17Hibbs
00:54:182-0
00:54:19Hibbs
00:54:202-0
00:54:21Hibbs
00:54:222-0
00:54:23Hibbs
00:54:242-0
00:54:25Hibbs
00:54:262-0
00:54:27Hibbs
00:54:282-0
00:54:29Hibbs
00:54:302-0
00:54:31Hibbs
00:54:322-0
00:54:33Hibbs
00:54:342-0
00:54:35Hibbs
00:54:362-0
00:54:37Hibbs
00:54:382-0
00:54:39Hibbs
00:54:402-0
00:54:41Hibbs
00:54:422-0
00:54:43Hibbs
00:54:442-0
00:54:45Hibbs
00:54:462-0
00:54:47Hibbs
00:54:482-0
00:54:49Hibbs
00:54:502-0
00:54:51Hibbs
00:54:522-0
00:54:53Hibbs
00:54:542-0
00:54:55Hibbs
00:54:562-0
00:54:57Hibbs
00:54:582-0
00:54:59Hibbs
00:55:002-0
00:55:01Hibbs
00:55:022-0
00:55:03Hibbs
00:55:042-0
00:55:05Hibbs
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