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00:00We are still together on Mediantv. Thank you for remaining faithful to us. Here are the
00:20titles of your newspaper.
00:22The Gaza Strip is still targeted by intense Israeli strikes. At least 40 people have
00:28been killed and 60 injured in the humanitarian zone of al-Mawazi in Khan Younes. We are
00:33talking about it honestly.
00:35It is a decisive stage in the race to the White House. The long-awaited television debate
00:41between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris will take place tonight. The first face-to-face
00:46between the two candidates, still elbow to elbow in the polls.
00:50The 2025 qualifying round was complicated for the Moroccan football team, but the victory
00:57was close. The three points are here. The lions of the Atlas are forced to go home
01:03to the cars by the smallest of escorts.
01:16Before developing these titles, let's first talk about the inundation report in the south
01:22of Morocco. The report has at least 18 deaths according to the Ministry of the Interior.
01:28Research continues to find four people missing in the province of Tata. Heavy
01:35rains accompanied by floods have been recorded, I remind you, last weekend in the kingdom.
01:42An exceptional phenomenon due to the rise of an extremely unstable tropical air mass
01:48according to the General Directorate of Meteorology.
01:53The 52 road sections on the 57 damaged by these floods were reopened yesterday
02:03to traffic, announced by the Ministry of Equipment and Water, which remains mobilized
02:09to open as soon as possible the remaining routes, including the RN10 between Boarfa
02:14and Boanane and the RN12 between Foumsguide and Zagora.
02:23For the Israeli Minister of Defense, Hamas as a military formation no longer exists
02:30in the Gaza Strip. The Gaza Strip once again targets this night of intense Israeli strikes.
02:36At least 40 people have been killed and 60 injured in the humanitarian zone of Al-Mawazi
02:42in Khan Younes. Tzhal claims to have targeted this area after identifying the presence
02:48of Hamas members. The Palestinian movement claims to have fighters in this humanitarian zone.
03:02And we continue to talk about the situation in Gaza with our correspondent Valérie Ferrand
03:08live from Al-Quds. Hello Valérie.
03:12Hello and hello to all viewers.
03:15Valérie, while the war in Gaza has entered its twelfth month, Israel is still intensively
03:22bombing the Palestinian enclave. On the spot, all eyes are red and the humanitarian situation
03:29is chaotic.
03:32Yes, quite, but this is what we have seen since October.
03:37You understand that when Israel set up its total siege to deprive the civilian populations
03:44of drinking water, food, electricity, etc., and that we have been in such conditions for a year,
03:51it is obvious that at the level of the humanitarian conditions, there are no words to describe
03:58the situation, the cruelty in which the civilian populations are.
04:04And today, tens of thousands of children in Gaza are once again deprived of school
04:12access. According to UNICEF, at least 45,000 six-year-old children are deprived of this
04:18elementary right in the Palestinian enclave.
04:22We can say that in the Gaza Strip, in fact, this right, there is a double crime. When we
04:28talk about the right to education, there is a double crime against this right, both against
04:33the establishments themselves, which have all been devastated, including universities.
04:39And why is it a first crime? Quite simply because they have been transformed into
04:44welcoming centers for displaced families, on the orders of the Israeli army, who have
04:49taken refuge in these schools and who have been bombed for months in these schools.
04:55It is another crime, of course, directly towards the right to education of these children.
05:01And since you are talking about the youngest, those in elementary school, well, it is first
05:07of all a child who has just suffered and continues to suffer for a year. Psychological
05:13shocks continue. He may have been injured too, he may have become disabled. On the other
05:20hand, you have many children of this age who no longer have parents, no mother, no father
05:26and sometimes no family at all. It is also in these conditions that we must understand
05:32the problem of the right to education. It is not just about having a place to study,
05:38because in fact, even under the tents, you had initiatives from teachers to teach
05:44and teach the children. The problem is that these children are psychologically totally
05:50traumatized, that the bombings continue, that they also have, of course, many diseases,
05:56especially skin diseases, due to sanitary conditions that are totally indescribable.
06:04Let's not forget that in the Gaza Strip, what we see a lot is children of this age,
06:10between 5, 6, 7, 8 years old, who have the responsibility to go and get water for their
06:16families. We see them all in the streets with small buckets and different instruments
06:24to be able to get a little bit of water. We have therefore created a kind of generation
06:30of workers despite them. What must be added is that the right to education for Palestinians
06:36has always been a priority. There is very little electricity in Palestine and it is also
06:42an extremely important right for the families of refugees since 1948, which means that in
06:50the Gaza Strip, at least 70% of families give absolute priority to education. Why?
06:58For a very simple reason, it is that when their families lost everything in 1948, during
07:04the first massive expulsion made by Israel, well, all that remained was education.
07:10So, in the minds of many Palestinians, the only thing we cannot lose, the only thing
07:14we cannot take from them is their right to education.
07:19Valérie Ferrand, thank you. Thank you for all these details. Thank you for answering our questions.
07:27In the United States, the long-awaited television debate between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris
07:32will take place tonight. The first face-to-face debate between the two candidates. The presidential
07:38election is still at a head-to-head in the polls and it is a decisive step in the race
07:44to the White House.
07:49Two totally different styles are opposing each other. One is a former prosecutor, known
07:54for his firmness. The other, a businessman and a former reality TV presenter. Kamala
08:00Harris and Donald Trump will face each other on Tuesday during an extremely long-awaited
08:05debate. The former Republican president and the American vice president will meet for
08:11the very first time at the beginning of their confrontation scheduled for 9 p.m. local time
08:16on the ABC channel.
08:20Generally, I think it's going to be interesting to watch. I am curious to hear what the two
08:26candidates have to say. I have not yet decided who I will vote for, but I still want to hear
08:31what all the parties have to say.
08:35I am delighted that the debate is taking place in Philadelphia. This is where I live and work.
08:40So I love this city so much. The polls are split 50-50. This debate is very tight and the
08:46two candidates are very strong. But I'm so fed up with Trump's meanness and everything
08:51else that I can't wait to know Harris' point of view on the creation of more peace.
08:57While the former Republican president has multiplied public appearances, his rival has spent
09:03most of the last three days in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, with his preparation team.
09:09Pennsylvania, with its 19 votes in the electoral college and its tendency to switch from one
09:15side to the other, is one of the most coveted swing states. Polls give the advantage to the
09:21Democrat, who has completely re-mobilized his party, but who still has to make himself
09:26known to a good part of the population, including the Republicans, whose electoral base
09:31does not seem to be started by his judicial enemies or by his decoupled statements.
09:36The suspense remains at its peak.
09:43In Senegal, after several months of silence, former Prime Minister Amadou Ba has resurfaced
09:48on the political scene in a meeting. The former candidate, the presidential candidate of
09:54last March, announced the creation of his political party, thus marking his breakup with the
10:01former president Macky Sall. Back to the highlights of this meeting with Regis Moukila and
10:07Shehnaou.
10:09He had not made any public statements since March 25th. It was on this date that Amadou
10:14Ba had recognized his defeat against the duo Diomay Sonko.
10:23More than six months later, the unfortunate candidate at the last Senegalese presidential
10:28election decided to go on the offensive. Amadou Ba decided to lay the foundations for the
10:33creation of his future political party.
10:58Members of the Benobo-Koyakar coalition, the opponent announced his breakup with the
11:14APR, the party of Macky Sall, a political formation weakened by internal divergences
11:19and massive departures.
11:28We must learn from this experience to build something stronger, more sincere and more
11:44solid. It is my responsibility, before any decision, to dialogue with all those who
11:52supported me.
11:55The creation of this new party brings a new configuration on the Senegalese political scene,
12:00which makes Amadou Ba the leader of the opposition.
12:04He is 63 years old, he is the same age as Macky Sall, so he still has a political future.
12:10Given the rank he currently occupies, it is said that he is the leader of the opposition.
12:18This is being confirmed.
12:21Alliances have already been mentioned for Amadou Ba, those for a large coalition of the opposition
12:26in view of the next legislative elections in Senegal.
12:33Good evening, in this newspaper, I announced it to you in the titles, it was complicated
12:37for the Moroccan football team, but the victory and the three points are there. The Lions of
12:44the Atlas have imposed themselves on the smallest step against the Eto'os on the score of
12:501-0.
12:51Last night at the Grand Stade d'Agadir, on the occasion of the second day of the
12:56African Nations Cup qualifiers in Morocco 2025, Morocco, already qualified in its quality
13:02of high country, will cross the iron in October with Central Africa in a double confrontation
13:08at the Stade d'Honneur d'Oujda.
13:11Coach Walid is back on yesterday's match together, we listen to him.
13:19The first half, we had possession of course.
13:23We played with a rhythm that was too slow to solve the problem.
13:28Not a lot of presence on the surface.
13:31The midfielders were a lot, the wingers were a lot, so we didn't find the fault.
13:38After we found out in the second half that we have talent on the bench,
13:43that we can solve the problem.
13:46We looked at the solutions with the young, we brought in experienced players.
13:52In the last 30 minutes, we were ...
13:58It's a shame, we had situations to solve the score earlier and maybe we would have won
14:02with more goals.
14:08But you have this state of mind, you don't think we're going to win the game.
14:12We solved the problem in the last minute.
14:15We have the result, the win, with the state of mind.
14:19The way, on the collective side, we saw a lot of teaching on the lack of depth
14:25of the players on the surface.
14:28The profile of the players, maybe.
14:32They know that if you want to score goals, you have to be much more on the surface.
14:37But they are young players, they know the word.
14:40We immediately move on to the guest of the big news of the midday.
14:44It's one of the most awaited meetings of the American presidential campaign.
14:49Kamala Harris and Donald Trump face each other tonight in front of millions of viewers
14:55for 90 minutes.
14:57And to talk about this debate with us live from Rabat, Zakaria Abou-Dahab,
15:02Professor of International Relations and Political Science at the University of Mohamed V in Rabat.
15:08Professor, hello and thank you for accepting our invitation.
15:11Hello, hello Mr. Diop, with pleasure.
15:14So, the debate between Joe Biden and Donald Trump in June had changed the face of the
15:22American presidential election.
15:24Will it be the same for the confrontation tonight between Kamala Harris and former
15:29President Donald Trump?
15:32Yes.
15:33That is, the former debate in June 2024 sounded like a detonator of the need to find a candidate
15:41in the eyes of the Democrats in order to face a Donald Trump who is also, let's say,
15:49insistent, resilient, but also who may have benefited from the attempted assassination
15:58that failed.
16:00So, in the end, within the Democrat family, and after, of course, we followed it last
16:06August, there was the Democrat Convention, which finally officially appointed Mrs. Kamala
16:12Harris to speak at the elections, of course, soon, on November 5th, and today's debate
16:18which will take place, I think, in Rabat at 2 o'clock in the morning.
16:22And in the end, it's a debate with rules, etc.
16:25But yes, you said it so well today, we have our eyes set on this debate in Pennsylvania.
16:31I think, exactly, absolutely.
16:33And it will be a big debate, as they say.
16:37In Philadelphia, sorry, it's not in Pennsylvania.
16:40Sorry.
16:41It's in Pennsylvania, it's good in Pennsylvania.
16:43In Pennsylvania, okay.
16:45Tell us, Professor, who of the two candidates has the most to win or lose tonight?
16:52For whom is the stake more important, in your opinion?
16:56The stake is more for Mrs. Kamala Harris, because maybe the voters don't know her enough.
17:02She still had the post of Vice President of Mr. Joe Biden.
17:08She was, I was going to say, maybe relatively erased from the face of Mr. Joe Biden's personality.
17:13Well, she had a few files here and there, but she is not very well known among voters.
17:18Now the stake is not only the background, that is, the mastery of the files,
17:22immigration, security, foreign policy, etc.
17:26But also the know-how and the know-how to be.
17:30Is she convincing? How does she communicate?
17:32Trump is not a personality that is easy to approach.
17:36He is a president, a former president, who is experienced.
17:39So he rolled his commander-in-chief.
17:41He is very well known among voters.
17:43And we know who Donald Trump is.
17:45Maybe for some who did not have the legal age to vote during the 2020 presidential elections.
17:51But today the stake is more for Mrs. Kamala Harris.
17:55And certainly Mr. Trump will seek to destabilize her,
17:58to identify perhaps the negative elements of Mr. Joe Biden's mandate, who is still president.
18:04And it is a stake, once again, in terms of political semiology, to convince voters.
18:09A electorate can sometimes be undecided, some among them,
18:12apart from those who are traditionally either in the Democratic camp or in the Republican camp.
18:18It's like the swing state question, that is, the states are hosting.
18:22This is what we could say, roughly, knowing Mr. Diop, that electoral sociology is not an exact science.
18:30Exactly. So what could be the key topics addressed tonight by the two candidates?
18:38There are classic topics that can be found in practically all languages.
18:44Economic issues, security issues, migration, the issue of inflation, the economic balance, insecurity.
18:52There are also issues in terms of international politics, foreign policy in particular,
18:57in relation to the position vis-à-vis China, in relation to the position or attitude concerning NATO.
19:03Because Trump, by the way, is one of his favorite subjects in relation to the transatlantic ties.
19:08The issue also in relation to the Middle East is a very timid assessment,
19:14let's say, flamboyant, concerning the involvement of the American administration
19:19to solve what has been going on since October 7th until today, soon the 12th month.
19:24So, in the end, it's going to be hot, as they say.
19:27All topics are valid, you know, but there are topics that are prioritized.
19:31The most important topic for the American electorate is, of course, the issue of purchasing power.
19:37And there are issues, let's say, that are rather pragmatic and operational.
19:42And we will, tonight, follow the debate, maybe the day after,
19:45we will be able to have elements to know better what are really the topics
19:50that polarize more the attention of the Americans in a period that is quite delicate, if you will.
19:58The conjecture is delicate.
19:59We debate that there will also certainly be an impact on the continuation of the presidential campaign.
20:06The voters can change their mind, especially the indecisive ones, you said it.
20:11Oh yes, absolutely.
20:13I said it.
20:14You may have the traditional FIF of the Democratic Party and the Republican Party,
20:20but there are the names without partisan affiliation, of course.
20:24I said it.
20:25Traditionally, when we read the documents on the swing states,
20:28like Pennsylvania, like North Carolina, Georgia, Nevada, we can cite Arizona, etc.
20:35But there are also...
20:36These are swing states, I said it, but we will say that the most important thing today
20:42is that, first of all, the opinion polls, as I said, for electoral sociology,
20:47are not very divided on the anticipated results.
20:50In general, the conclusion will be scores that are very tight,
20:55with relative differences between the two candidates, so on November 5th.
21:00I would like to add one thing,
21:02the US electoral system, especially the presidential one, is one of the most complicated in the world,
21:06because first of all, there are two rounds.
21:08The first round is elected by the representatives at the level of the Congress,
21:12that is, at the level of the House of Representatives,
21:14at the level of the Senate,
21:15plus there are three representatives at the level of the District of Columbia,
21:19that is, Washington D.C.,
21:20and it is the big voters who will finally elect the presidents.
21:24You see, so it's very complicated compared to that.
21:26There are even, I think, states that will start voting soon,
21:30according to the experts on the American elections.
21:34So we can see very well that there are several parameters to be able to appreciate
21:38exactly what the final results of a vote expected by virtually all the nations of the world
21:46on November 5th, 2024.
21:48And according to you, what could precisely reverse the vote of the Americans?
21:55So, as we said earlier, there are elements, perhaps, of conjuncture
22:00that will be either corroborated or refuted today during the debate,
22:04and that is to say that the American will really see if the Democrats' report is relatively,
22:09as we say, no lens, volens,
22:12positive for the most important middle-class American,
22:17since this is where the mass is located,
22:19because the mass would like to preserve its purchasing power.
22:22And then there is Donald Trump, as was done in June 2024,
22:27but I am not leaning for this scenario,
22:29will try to destabilize Kamala Harris,
22:31who has trained a lot lately because she came too early to settle down,
22:36do simulations and try to avoid the traps that will be set by Donald Trump.
22:42And there, a lot of chance, it must be said, according to the experts.
22:46And I believe that the stake will also be on the subject of the mastery of a certain number of files
22:51that will reassure the voters the most,
22:54knowing that if you read the best experts in the European world or others,
22:59they will tell you that the impact of the debate is very, very minimal, very relative,
23:03but it is rather the presence and confidence
23:06that is surrounded around each, I was going to say, service provider,
23:11each candidate for the presidential election.
23:14And we don't have a scientifically speaking element that we could calculate,
23:18because it is not an exact number.
23:20We are in the approximation,
23:22but the two candidates have practically the same chances, I was going to say.
23:26In other words, it is the form of this debate that could make the difference.
23:31Relatively yes, it could corroborate more.
23:35A Trump who comes back, who, if not persists,
23:37takes advantage of the current situation to once again lead the United States for four years.
23:43It is not very obvious, but for Kamala Harris, it is a great test.
23:46I said it earlier, the stake is for her, it is fundamental.
23:49She has a lot of supporters.
23:51Traditionally, the Democrats developed issues related to human rights,
23:55the protection of the environment,
23:57having more mediation, more dialogical debates with countries.
24:02I weigh my words like Iran, but today the conjecture is different.
24:06While the conservatives, the Republicans,
24:09are sharper on fundamental issues.
24:13We have to dive into American society today
24:17to understand these divisions, these frictions, these dissensions.
24:21We do not have the exactitude of things until today,
24:26but at least we can say that the United States, in general,
24:29offers one of the best examples of debates that structure things
24:34and that shows a certain visibility for not only the operators,
24:40but also for all states at the level of international relations.
24:43Professor Zakaria Abu Dhabi, according to you,
24:46what explains, what justifies the choice of Pennsylvania to host this debate?
24:52No idea, I think it's a tradition,
24:55but frankly, Pennsylvania is considered, moreover, as an ambivalent state.
25:01I think it is the ABS chain that imposed this,
25:04because it must be said that there will be strictly respect for the rules of the debate,
25:08like the cutting of the microphones, everyone will have two minutes to reply.
25:12But I think it is a choice related to security,
25:15to proposals that may have been issued by the two candidates,
25:18but also to the choice also proposed by the chain
25:22which will conduct the debates with two well-known journalists.
25:25Zakaria Abu Dhabi, thank you for all these details.
25:29Thank you for answering our questions.
25:31With pleasure.
25:32Thank you, Mr. Job. See you next time.
25:35That's all for today.
25:40We'll take a break and we'll be back in a few moments for a new point on the news.