Boulogne: un alumno de 15 años llevó un revólver al colegio
Un joven de 15 años causó pánico en la escuela 25 de Mayo, en Boulogne, al presentarse con una pistola calibre 32. La rápida intervención de una maestra y la policía evitó una tragedia. El incidente ha generado un intenso debate sobre los protocolos de seguridad y la responsabilidad parental.
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00:00This is breaking news, and it's a scene that one would say, well, did it happen in the United States?
00:05No, it happened here in San Isidro, a 15-year-old boy appeared at a school,
00:10at that school that you are seeing, in Bulogne, with a gun.
00:15There is a commotion, there is a police department, there is the police,
00:19there are the parents there, and there is also Elvira Polaco.
00:24We are here at the school on May 25th.
00:28Bulogne is a private institution where yesterday a 15-year-old boy came armed.
00:33He came with a .32 caliber gun to class.
00:37When he took it out and showed it to his classmates, a teacher was able to detect it
00:41and they were able to take the gun away from him and activate a whole police protocol
00:46because they were only able to take the gun out when the police intervened,
00:50when the general inspection intervened.
00:52Yes, of course, it's logical, it's not like the teachers are arguing with the boy
00:56and telling him, give me the .32.
00:59No, and beyond that, they can't do a backpack check either,
01:03the authorities have forbidden it, they can't open the backpacks and start checking,
01:07but the student has to take out the gun directly or the things he has in the backpack
01:11and give them to the teacher.
01:13Yes, what happens is that there is a point in which...
01:15The tension situation that was experienced here yesterday.
01:17Those protocols end a little, I mean, one understands the right to privacy,
01:21but there is a point where you have to be able to tell a boy,
01:24show me what you have in your backpack.
01:28The gun had no ammunition, it was not loaded,
01:31but nevertheless, all the responsibility falls on the parents
01:34who attended here yesterday
01:36and when they called the father of this 15-year-old boy
01:39who locked himself up crying in a room of despair,
01:43of the adrenaline that caught him when he was discovered.
01:46The father was hanging from a 15-story building working as a painter.
01:50He had to come down and come here to introduce himself to the parents.
01:53Obviously, all the responsibility now falls on them
01:56and we are here in the tension...
01:58Yes, anyway, the gun appears in the photo,
02:00a gun in very bad condition,
02:02probably with a polished numbering,
02:04you don't know where he got it from.
02:08Probably the main hypothesis
02:11is that the gun was stolen from the house itself,
02:14therefore, justice will now have to determine
02:17if it was from the parents,
02:19if the gun was lent by a friend.
02:21Now the director, Sebastiana Minique,
02:23who we see in a brown jacket,
02:25is talking to one of the mothers.
02:27That mother denounces that here, within the institution,
02:29there were robberies, that there are drugs,
02:31that there are robberies,
02:33that this same student steals from others.
02:35Obviously, the director is arguing with this mother
02:38to tell her that she has no evidence for these accusations.
02:41The mother is obviously very tense,
02:43saying that this situation could have been prevented in another way.
02:48If you tell me what's going on,
02:50I'll try to intervene, I'll try to ask Sebastiana
02:52to tell us what happened, what was the protocol that was activated.
02:54Notice that she wants to talk to her mother, right?
02:56I trusted her mother a while ago.
02:59Let's see what she has to say.
03:03Let's see, let's try.
03:05Good morning, miss, what happened yesterday?
03:09A 15-year-old boy came with a gun.
03:16And well, the director is explaining to us
03:18what are the things, the measures he took
03:22and that he will continue to take.
03:25Does your son come here?
03:26My daughter.
03:27Did he see the gun?
03:29No, no, the boys didn't find out anything.
03:31Do you think this institution is safe?
03:33Yes, yes, yes, yes.
03:36Nico, Beni, let's go to this side.
03:38I want to talk to one of the mothers
03:39who we just heard speak very outraged.
03:41Good morning, miss, what happened?
03:43Turn around, turn around.
03:44No, no.
03:46Don't you want to talk, sir?
03:47Yes, there...
03:48The problem is also that the secondary police...
03:50Now we are going to try to talk to the director.
03:52They don't have...
03:53They are overwhelmed with this kind of problem
03:56of boys with addictions,
03:59boys with guns,
04:00violent boys,
04:01boys who get together and meet by WhatsApp
04:04to have a fight with another kid from another school.
04:07There are no protocols, no interventions.
04:10Education, as always,
04:12goes slower than the new problems that arise.
04:15So they don't know how to intervene.
04:17We are full of cases like this.
04:20They appear in schools every day,
04:22fights between kids who,
04:23as the school doesn't intervene,
04:25end up fighting the parents with each other.
04:27In this case, Rolo, as you said,
04:29look, from the cell phone,
04:31it's not that the boy took it out
04:33and pointed it at anyone.
04:35A 15-year-old boy was detected.
04:38But, of course,
04:39those who are going to have to give explanations here,
04:41even if it is a weapon on which there are papers
04:43and there is some legal tenancy,
04:45is the father.
04:46Because the boy takes it,
04:47he didn't show it,
04:48they saw it,
04:49then someone told the director.
04:51The director immediately alerted 9-11,
04:53the patrol command arrived first.
04:55Yes, and that is a truce weapon,
04:57in all light.
04:58That is, the father is going to end up with a criminal cause
05:00of illegal possession of a weapon.
05:01But there are precedents that worry,
05:03because also, just before the classes start,
05:05I remind you, at the end of March,
05:07for example, a second-grade boy
05:09in the city of Buenos Aires, in Flores,
05:11had also been found with a weapon,
05:12and in that case, loaded.
05:14Yes, Elmira, what's going on out there?
05:16Well, we are here with the director,
05:17with Sebastián Dominic, right?
05:19Olinic.
05:20Olinic, very good.
05:21What happened yesterday?
05:22How was the protocol?
05:23Well, there is a protocol
05:25that is at the institutional level,
05:28and there is a protocol that is carried out
05:30in the ordinary justice.
05:32Yesterday, before the incident,
05:34a third-year student brought a gun,
05:38deactivated, old, without ammunition.
05:42However, the protocol continues ...
05:44How did they realize the gun?
05:46Because we have courses that are reduced,
05:49of students, these situations,
05:52with a teacher in the classroom,
05:54they are easily noticeable in the classroom.
05:58In this case, a classmate warns him,
06:00of the student,
06:02immediately gives notice to the teacher,
06:04and the teacher follows the protocol,
06:06with the corresponding hierarchical chain,
06:10the protocol at the institutional level,
06:13what indicates is to isolate the student,
06:15notify immediately
06:17both the hierarchical school authorities,
06:22inspection, headquarters and others,
06:25and then in the ordinary justice,
06:27calling 911,
06:28to take charge of the gun,
06:30the supposed gun,
06:31or what we find.
06:32What do the rest of the classmates do?
06:33Are they afraid to go back, for example,
06:35to course with this student?
06:37This is very recent,
06:38because we, at the secondary level,
06:41only have a shift tomorrow.
06:44This happened early in the morning,
06:47with which I stayed with the students
06:50until one o'clock,
06:52who completed their schedule.
06:53I spoke with some families,
06:55I spoke with some students here.
06:57Many of the students were not aware of this situation,
07:00because it was something that happened in the classroom,
07:03and we, fortunately,
07:06within all this unpleasant situation for everyone,
07:10we have a lot of information
07:12about how to proceed
07:13against this type of incident.
07:15We cannot, at the institutional level,
07:17the schools cannot perform a police function,
07:20touch personal objects belonging to the students,
07:24their belongings.
07:25That is why this protocol is activated,
07:27within which, I repeat,
07:29the student is isolated,
07:30it is the student himself
07:32who precisely shows
07:34what he brought,
07:35whether or not it is a gun,
07:37what can reach ...
07:39What is the school situation of the boy in the future?
07:41Will he continue classes?
07:44Today, here,
07:46we do not have the student.
07:48We finished yesterday at six in the afternoon,
07:50in what is ordinary justice,
07:52we made all the corresponding students
07:54in what corresponds to our institutional part here.
07:58Then, this is very recent,
08:00this happened yesterday,
08:02they will notify us what the next steps are.
08:05What is the response of the parents of this student?
08:07Very moved too,
08:09because it is a family present.
08:11The reality is that we have a lot of contact
08:14with our community
08:16through the monitoring of what is the educational trajectory
08:19of the students.
08:22The father is the one who brings him every morning.
08:25At the time he was called here from school,
08:27the father was on the twelfth floor,
08:29working.
08:31Very moved both.
08:33I could not talk to the youngest in the police station,
08:36but with the father,
08:37they had a deep congoja on a family level.
08:42What did the youngest say when he was isolated?
08:45What could he express?
08:46Was he sorry? Was he scared?
08:48That he brought it as a joke,
08:50as a joke,
08:51it was something deactivated,
08:52something old,
08:53something ...
08:54What happens is that, well, logically ...
08:56Could he tell you where he got it from?
08:58No.
08:59It is very likely that
09:01when they were declaring a police station,
09:03because in what concerns ordinary justice,
09:06those who are responsible for the youngest are the parents.
09:09That is why we always appeal to the awareness of families
09:13in these aspects,
09:14that the family be the one who accompanies us
09:17also in these aspects.
09:19What did the parents say once they found out
09:21that their son had brought a gun
09:22and where he had taken it from?
09:24The parents did not know until that moment
09:26where he took it from.
09:27I repeat that it was something ...
09:29Well, there is the virtual press conference
09:32that the school director is giving
09:34because a young man brought a gun,
09:37a live gun.