Un joven de 15 años causó pánico en la escuela 25 de Mayo, en Boulogne, al presentarse con una pistola calibre 32. La rápida intervención de una maestra y la policía evitó una tragedia. El incidente ha generado un intenso debate sobre los protocolos de seguridad y la responsabilidad parental.
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00:00This is breaking news, and it's a scene that one would say, well, did it happen in the United States?
00:05No, it happened here in San Isidro, a 15-year-old boy appeared at a school,
00:10at that school that you are seeing, in Bulogne, with a gun.
00:15There is a commotion, there is a police department, there is the police,
00:19there are the parents there, and there is also Elvira Polaco.
00:24We are here at the school on May 25th.
00:28Bulogne is a private institution where yesterday a 15-year-old boy came armed.
00:33He came with a .32 caliber gun to class.
00:37When he took it out and showed it to his classmates, a teacher was able to detect it
00:41and they were able to take the gun away from him and activate a whole police protocol
00:46because they were only able to take the gun out when the police intervened,
00:50when the general inspection intervened.
00:52Yes, of course, it's logical, it's not like the teachers are arguing with the boy
00:56and telling him, give me the .32.
00:59No, and beyond that, they can't do a backpack check either,
01:03the authorities have forbidden it, they can't open the backpacks and start checking,
01:07but the student has to take out the gun directly or the things he has in the backpack
01:11and give them to the teacher.
01:13Yes, what happens is that there is a point in which...
01:15The tension situation that was experienced here yesterday.
01:17Those protocols end a little, I mean, one understands the right to privacy,
01:21but there is a point where you have to be able to tell a boy,
01:24show me what you have in your backpack.
01:28The gun had no ammunition, it was not loaded,
01:31but nevertheless, all the responsibility falls on the parents
01:34who attended here yesterday
01:36and when they called the father of this 15-year-old boy
01:39who locked himself up crying in a room of despair,
01:43of the adrenaline that caught him when he was discovered.
01:46The father was hanging from a 15-story building working as a painter.
01:50He had to come down and come here to introduce himself to the parents.
01:53Obviously, all the responsibility now falls on them
01:56and we are here in the tension...
01:58Yes, anyway, the gun appears in the photo,
02:00a gun in very bad condition,
02:02probably with a polished numbering,
02:04you don't know where he got it from.
02:08Probably the main hypothesis
02:11is that the gun was stolen from the house itself,
02:14therefore, justice will now have to determine
02:17if it was from the parents,
02:19if the gun was lent by a friend.
02:21Now the director, Sebastiana Minique,
02:23who we see in a brown jacket,
02:25is talking to one of the mothers.
02:27That mother denounces that here, within the institution,
02:29there were robberies, that there are drugs,
02:31that there are robberies,
02:33that this same student steals from others.
02:35Obviously, the director is arguing with this mother
02:38to tell her that she has no evidence for these accusations.
02:41The mother is obviously very tense,
02:43saying that this situation could have been prevented in another way.
02:48If you tell me what's going on,
02:50I'll try to intervene, I'll try to ask Sebastiana
02:52to tell us what happened, what was the protocol that was activated.
02:54Notice that she wants to talk to her mother, right?
02:56I trusted her mother a while ago.
02:59Let's see what she has to say.
03:03Let's see, let's try.
03:05Good morning, miss, what happened yesterday?
03:09A 15-year-old boy came with a gun.
03:16And well, the director is explaining to us
03:18what are the things, the measures he took
03:22and that he will continue to take.
03:25Does your son come here?
03:26My daughter.
03:27Did he see the gun?
03:29No, no, the boys didn't find out anything.
03:31Do you think this institution is safe?
03:33Yes, yes, yes, yes.
03:36Nico, Beni, let's go to this side.
03:38I want to talk to one of the mothers
03:39who we just heard speak very outraged.
03:41Good morning, miss, what happened?
03:43Turn around, turn around.
03:44No, no.
03:46Don't you want to talk, sir?
03:47Yes, there...
03:48The problem is also that the secondary police...
03:50Now we are going to try to talk to the director.
03:52They don't have...
03:53They are overwhelmed with this kind of problem
03:56of boys with addictions,
03:59boys with guns,
04:00violent boys,
04:01boys who get together and meet by WhatsApp
04:04to have a fight with another kid from another school.
04:07There are no protocols, no interventions.
04:10Education, as always,
04:12goes slower than the new problems that arise.
04:15So they don't know how to intervene.
04:17We are full of cases like this.
04:20They appear in schools every day,
04:22fights between kids who,
04:23as the school doesn't intervene,
04:25end up fighting the parents with each other.
04:27In this case, Rolo, as you said,
04:29look, from the cell phone,
04:31it's not that the boy took it out
04:33and pointed it at anyone.
04:35A 15-year-old boy was detected.
04:38But, of course,
04:39those who are going to have to give explanations here,
04:41even if it is a weapon on which there are papers
04:43and there is some legal tenancy,
04:45is the father.
04:46Because the boy takes it,
04:47he didn't show it,
04:48they saw it,
04:49then someone told the director.
04:51The director immediately alerted 9-11,
04:53the patrol command arrived first.
04:55Yes, and that is a truce weapon,
04:57in all light.
04:58That is, the father is going to end up with a criminal cause
05:00of illegal possession of a weapon.
05:01But there are precedents that worry,
05:03because also, just before the classes start,
05:05I remind you, at the end of March,
05:07for example, a second-grade boy
05:09in the city of Buenos Aires, in Flores,
05:11had also been found with a weapon,
05:12and in that case, loaded.
05:14Yes, Elmira, what's going on out there?
05:16Well, we are here with the director,
05:17with Sebastián Dominic, right?
05:19Olinic.
05:20Olinic, very good.
05:21What happened yesterday?
05:22How was the protocol?
05:23Well, there is a protocol
05:25that is at the institutional level,
05:28and there is a protocol that is carried out
05:30in the ordinary justice.
05:32Yesterday, before the incident,
05:34a third-year student brought a gun,
05:38deactivated, old, without ammunition.
05:42However, the protocol continues ...
05:44How did they realize the gun?
05:46Because we have courses that are reduced,
05:49of students, these situations,
05:52with a teacher in the classroom,
05:54they are easily noticeable in the classroom.
05:58In this case, a classmate warns him,
06:00of the student,
06:02immediately gives notice to the teacher,
06:04and the teacher follows the protocol,
06:06with the corresponding hierarchical chain,
06:10the protocol at the institutional level,
06:13what indicates is to isolate the student,
06:15notify immediately
06:17both the hierarchical school authorities,
06:22inspection, headquarters and others,
06:25and then in the ordinary justice,
06:27calling 911,
06:28to take charge of the gun,
06:30the supposed gun,
06:31or what we find.
06:32What do the rest of the classmates do?
06:33Are they afraid to go back, for example,
06:35to course with this student?
06:37This is very recent,
06:38because we, at the secondary level,
06:41only have a shift tomorrow.
06:44This happened early in the morning,
06:47with which I stayed with the students
06:50until one o'clock,
06:52who completed their schedule.
06:53I spoke with some families,
06:55I spoke with some students here.
06:57Many of the students were not aware of this situation,
07:00because it was something that happened in the classroom,
07:03and we, fortunately,
07:06within all this unpleasant situation for everyone,
07:10we have a lot of information
07:12about how to proceed
07:13against this type of incident.
07:15We cannot, at the institutional level,
07:17the schools cannot perform a police function,
07:20touch personal objects belonging to the students,
07:24their belongings.
07:25That is why this protocol is activated,
07:27within which, I repeat,
07:29the student is isolated,
07:30it is the student himself
07:32who precisely shows
07:34what he brought,
07:35whether or not it is a gun,
07:37what can reach ...
07:39What is the school situation of the boy in the future?
07:41Will he continue classes?
07:44Today, here,
07:46we do not have the student.
07:48We finished yesterday at six in the afternoon,
07:50in what is ordinary justice,
07:52we made all the corresponding students
07:54in what corresponds to our institutional part here.
07:58Then, this is very recent,
08:00this happened yesterday,
08:02they will notify us what the next steps are.
08:05What is the response of the parents of this student?
08:07Very moved too,
08:09because it is a family present.
08:11The reality is that we have a lot of contact
08:14with our community
08:16through the monitoring of what is the educational trajectory
08:19of the students.
08:22The father is the one who brings him every morning.
08:25At the time he was called here from school,
08:27the father was on the twelfth floor,
08:29working.
08:31Very moved both.
08:33I could not talk to the youngest in the police station,
08:36but with the father,
08:37they had a deep congoja on a family level.
08:42What did the youngest say when he was isolated?
08:45What could he express?
08:46Was he sorry? Was he scared?
08:48That he brought it as a joke,
08:50as a joke,
08:51it was something deactivated,
08:52something old,
08:53something ...
08:54What happens is that, well, logically ...
08:56Could he tell you where he got it from?
08:58No.
08:59It is very likely that
09:01when they were declaring a police station,
09:03because in what concerns ordinary justice,
09:06those who are responsible for the youngest are the parents.
09:09That is why we always appeal to the awareness of families
09:13in these aspects,
09:14that the family be the one who accompanies us
09:17also in these aspects.
09:19What did the parents say once they found out
09:21that their son had brought a gun
09:22and where he had taken it from?
09:24The parents did not know until that moment
09:26where he took it from.
09:27I repeat that it was something ...
09:29Well, there is the virtual press conference
09:32that the school director is giving
09:34because a young man brought a gun,
09:37a live gun.