"Unho Nay kaha 22 August Ka Jalsa Multavi Krdein...." Rauf Hassan Reveals Big Insides
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"Unho Nay kaha 22 August Ka Jalsa Multavi Krdein...." Rauf Hassan Reveals Big Insides
"Unho Nay kaha 22 August Ka Jalsa Multavi Krdein...." Rauf Hassan Reveals Big Insides
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00:00Now, Mr. Mehmood Achakzai has said that if he wants, he can talk to the political parties.
00:07In this, sir, I just want to clarify that you have said this as the head of an alliance, that is fine.
00:12But does he have the authority to make a commitment on behalf of the PTI,
00:17if it is related to the political parties, then the PTI will honour it.
00:21Does Mr. Achakzai have this mandate?
00:23I will explain.
00:25The official stance of the PTI is that we will not have direct negotiations with the three mandated parties,
00:32that is, PMLN, People's Party and MQMP.
00:38This has been our stance and this is our stance as far as you and I talk.
00:44Mr. Mehmood Achakzai had expressed his desire that I want to engage with political parties.
00:50In appreciation of his desire, Mr. Khan gave him permission that if you want to engage with political forces,
00:59then do it. And if there are any proposals, substantive proposals,
01:03then we will sit and consider and see what should be done about them.
01:07After Mr. Khan's permission, Mr. Mehmood Achakzai is now trying to engage with political forces
01:17and if any substantive proposals are formulated, then those proposals will come to Mr. Khan
01:24and perhaps we will also participate in his discussion and decide how to proceed.
01:30Until now, apart from these three parties, we have contact with every other political party.
01:35We want a greater democratic alliance to be formed.
01:40At present, there are five political parties and I hope that in the near future,
01:44two, three, four more political parties will be included.
01:47When Mr. Mehmood Achakzai brings his report or his proposals after his engagement,
01:54then a next phase will begin as to what to do about those proposals.
01:59Then it will be seen whether they are feasible or not.
02:01Mr. Maulana, do you feel that Mr. Zardari and Mr. Shahbaz are getting closer to you
02:06after the recent developments or do you feel that the distance between you and them is increasing?
02:16The government's chitters show that Mr. Zardari and Mr. Shahbaz are getting closer to us.
02:23You know that our relations with Mr. Maulana have not been so good in recent years.
02:33So, it is a big milestone for us to accept the vast gulf that was separating us.
02:41We have achieved this. We have regular contact with them.
02:44We have sub-committees in the Senate and the National Assembly.
02:48Whatever issues are raised there, they meet to develop a consensus.
02:55Do you have any concerns about these meetings with Mr. Zardari and Mr. Shahbaz?
03:03Sir, I don't have any concerns in the political domain.
03:06In the political domain, my thesis is that if you have any credible proposals
03:14and they are attractive to two parties or four or six or eight parties,
03:18then we have no fear of being afraid of anyone else.
03:20I have already said in the beginning of your question that these are the government's chitters.
03:25Whatever they want to do, they need a two-thirds majority.
03:28So, they are desperately trying.
03:30My personal appraisal at the moment is that Mr. Maulana will not meet with the government.
03:37How do you see this matter?
03:39A person from Mr. Maulana's party, whose name is Noor Alam Khan,
03:43brings a bill in a private way.
03:46But he has said in our program that,
03:48Mr. Badami, can you imagine that I will do something without Mr. Maulana's consent?
03:51He has said this.
03:52So, he brings a bill for an increase in the number of judges.
03:55He brings a bill for the abrogation of the law of the Supreme Court.
03:58And no one from the Dori Shariah should be a judge.
04:00And X, Y, Z.
04:02This surprises you a little bit.
04:04What is this?
04:06There was an element of surprise.
04:08But we have been told that there is no formal approval from that party.
04:16You know that the person you are talking about, Mr. Noor Alam,
04:21he is a bit of a maverick also.
04:23So, I don't know the exact circumstances under which he has moved these bills.
04:30But we have been reassured that the stance of the JUIF,
04:37which they have finalized with us, will not have any effect on the move of this bill.
04:41So, again, you have enough reasons to believe that the JUIF will not support this bill in the parliament.
04:46The collaboration between us and the JUIF is still going on in the parliament.
04:50And because of this collaboration, I can get the result that you have said.
04:56Sir, but Mr. Rahul, if I say something straightforward, will you agree?
05:00In an innocent manner.
05:01That at this time, your issue with the army is that you want to talk to them.
05:06They say no.
05:08This is the straightforward thing. Is it true or not?
05:10Look, I have always been in favor of dialogue.
05:14I have always talked about dialogue within the party.
05:17And I have always said that dialogue with the judiciary is the most important thing.
05:23Because it is a very powerful institution.
05:26And they have the most practical intervention in state affairs.
05:31So this has always been my stance.
05:34This statement of yours is not entirely correct.
05:37I will let you know.
05:39Some of our people have also held ceremonies with them in individual capacity.
05:44Our meeting on August 22 was said by the establishment to postpone it.
05:55Because on that day, you remember that some religious communities had also come to Islamabad.
06:01They were sitting in the Constitution Avenue.
06:03Because a case was being heard in the Supreme Court about the Holy Prophet.
06:11So he said with special insistence that you please postpone this meeting.
06:17So he was told in response that only one person can make such a decision in this party,
06:23whose name is Imran Khan and he is in Adiala.
06:26So then you remember that the huddle of 7 o'clock in the morning was arranged.
06:31And on that basis, Mr. Khan reluctantly postponed that meeting on August 22.
06:38And during the same negotiations,
06:41the No Objection Certificate of the Jalsa on September 8 was given to us in advance by the establishment.
06:49And on the basis of which we are going to hold this Jalsa on September 8.
06:53Now if this is an illicit Jalsa, will you feel that you have been ditched?
06:56Let me finish.
06:57Yes sir, please.
06:58Let me finish that there is a breakthrough.
07:01And I have also said this in my Voice of America interview that this is a breakthrough.
07:05Now our attempt is to make this breakthrough smaller.
07:09But we would like to expand it and increase it.
07:13And a proper dialogue should be started.
07:16Because the solution to the problems of Pakistan is extremely important for it.
07:21The deadlock between Muqtada and Pakistan's largest political party should be broken.
07:28Dialogue should be initiated.
07:30And a basis for mutual benefit should be established and moved forward.