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"Atta Tarar ki Press Conference Pre Mature thi..."senator afnan ullah's Huge Statement
"Atta Tarar ki Press Conference Pre Mature thi..."senator afnan ullah's Huge Statement
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00:00I wanted to ask you a question, but in the meantime, I got the same news that I had shared with Zarae.
00:03That is, there is a petition against the decision of the Supreme Court of the Muslim League Noon Special Sessions.
00:09And then it is that the three-dimensional Judges Committee has opposed the majority of the two to file a petition.
00:15So Mr. Hasnaat Malik is present with us, he will give us details about this.
00:19Hasnaat, basically, in this clarity, I wanted to say that until a detailed decision has come,
00:25has this thing been rejected that after a detailed decision has come, a request for a review can be filed or has it been rejected in the same way?
00:34But this will be found out in the minutes of the meeting.
00:38What we found out from Zarae is that the meeting of the committee today,
00:44it was in the agenda of that meeting that the fixation of the review petition that was issued by the Noon League.
00:53In that, two judges said that the members of that bench are on leave, they are discussing the cases in their various registries.
01:08Secondly, there was no detailed judgment. How can a review be filed without a detailed judgment?
01:15So, from two, one, it was said that a review cannot be filed without a detailed judgment.
01:19It was said that a review cannot be filed without a detailed judgment.
01:23So, it makes sense that after a detailed judgment, a review can be filed.
01:27Yes, after a detailed judgment, it can be filed.
01:31Thank you so much Mr. Hasnaat Malik for being with us.
01:33So, this matter is clear that after a detailed judgment, a review will be filed.
01:37Mr. Afnan, my question might have reached you, but I will repeat it.
01:41After the decision of July 12, the way this whole matter happened,
01:45that Mr. Atta Tarar did a very sensational press conference.
01:49Obviously, he did not do it for himself, he was told that he is the Minister of Information.
01:55Then he did this press conference.
01:57Then, the way Ishaq Dar Sahib's statement came, there were also voices from the rest of the party.
02:03People's Party took a separate action from that matter that we were not even consulted.
02:07So, was this only because of Mr. Nawaz Sharif and Mr. Shahbaz Sharif?
02:11No one else was consulted?
02:13What happened basically?
02:17You can say that this press conference was a little premature.
02:23It should have happened after a few days.
02:27You have seen that the leaders of the rest of the party gave different opinions on this matter.
02:37Mr. Dar, who is also the Deputy Prime Minister,
02:39he clearly said that we will act according to the laws and regulations.
02:45There is still a lot of discussion on this.
02:49And only after that, a final opinion can be given on this.
02:53So, as of now, do you think that the investigation will go ahead?
02:57Or has it been set aside for some time?
03:01The thing is that the political party cannot be investigated by the government.
03:07The government will make an appeal in the Supreme Court based on the Foreign Funding case of the Election Commission.
03:15In 15 days?
03:17Here, the Supreme Court decides whether to do it or not in 16 days.
03:21The government does not have the right.
03:23The Supreme Court has the right to decide.
03:25But the right to initiate...
03:27The Foreign Funding case is definitely there.
03:29I am saying that the government has the right to initiate, right?
03:33They have to initiate, frame charges...
03:35Yes, we can initiate.
03:37They have to get approval from the Cabinet,
03:39then the Assembly, then the Senate,
03:41then a notification from the Ministry of Internal Affairs,
03:45then a 15-day case in the Supreme Court.
03:47So, the Supreme Court has to go at the end.
03:49And you have to prove whether the case will go ahead on merit or not.
03:55Do you think that this was done in a hurry?
03:57Or was it not supposed to be done?
03:59It was premature.
04:01The press conference was not supposed to take place.
04:05And that is why I have told you about the official line of the party.
04:11I have told you about it.
04:13Okay.
04:15There is a discussion going on about it.
04:17Mr. Riyasat Ali Azad, what is your point of view on this?
04:21Obviously, in democratic countries...
04:23Was that anticipated?
04:25Legal fraternity...
04:27You are saying that I will give an unbiased opinion.
04:29So, was the legal fraternity thinking
04:31after the July 12 decision
04:33that the next day or two days later
04:35this kind of thing will come up
04:37and there will be so much discussion on it?
04:39I think this was the reaction of the government.
04:45It was an immature decision of the government.
04:49Because people got the impression
04:51that the Supreme Court of Pakistan
04:53has come against them.
04:55Therefore, people are thinking
04:57that this is a reaction from the government.
04:59To ban any political party,
05:01the first thing was the PPO.
05:05Pakistan Political Party Ordinance 2002
05:09which had section 15 and section 1.
05:13After that, it was repealed.
05:15Then, under section 212 of the Election Act 2017
05:19and under article 17.1 of the Constitution of 1973,
05:25the procedure is that
05:27first, the government will issue a gazan notification.
05:29Okay.
05:31Then, within 15 days,
05:33it will be sent to the Supreme Court of Pakistan
05:35as a reference.
05:37And the Supreme Court will decide
05:39what is the evidence in support of that
05:41and if it is established,
05:43then the political party will be banned.
05:45And if it is not established,
05:47then it will be decided in the negative.
05:49Okay.
05:51There is only one judgment
05:53of the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
05:55PLD 1976,
05:57Supreme Court,
05:59page number 57,
06:01Islamic Republic of Pakistan
06:03versus Wali Khan case.
06:05There was one such case.
06:07That NAP case.
06:09It was NAP at that time.
06:11National Awami Party.
06:13Which later became ANP.
06:15When it was banned,
06:17it became Awami National Party, ANP.
06:19And I think that
06:21any political party,
06:23being a student of law
06:25and a political worker,
06:27my view is that political parties
06:29should compete in the field
06:31and not be knocked out
06:33on the technical ground.
06:35That's why I think that
06:37all political parties are my country.
06:39I love them all.
06:41But we want a positive
06:43politics in this country.
06:45Without doubt.
06:47This is very important.
06:49Mr. Naeem Haider Panjota,
06:51I think these things
06:53have been explained enough.
06:55The way a mountain was erected,
06:57it is now sitting down.
06:59So now you have clarity in your mind
07:01that something like this is not going to happen.
07:03And was that unexpected for you
07:05Mr. Naeem?
07:07Look, the real problem is that
07:09if we look at how they lost
07:11in February 8th,
07:13how they,
07:15what do you call it,
07:17when it comes to
07:19getting bail,
07:21then in such a situation,
07:23when any political leader
07:25sees that he is not winning
07:27this war politically,
07:29then he makes such gestures.
07:31This is why all this was done.
07:33They have lost in the political arena.
07:35People have rejected them
07:37because of their policies.
07:39Now the second thing is,
07:41as Mr. Riaz said,
07:43Article 17.1 of the Constitution
07:45is very clear,
07:47in which the Supreme Court
07:49has power.
07:51Now in what situation is it?
07:53It is in a situation
07:55when a community
07:57will go against Pakistan.
07:59We talk about freedom of expression
08:01Mr. Naeem,
08:03we have already talked about
08:05the timing of this,
08:07but let's talk about the 9th incident.
08:09It is obvious that they were
08:11oppressed in every way.
08:13Secondly, Article 17.3
08:15of the Constitution
08:17mentions the issue
08:19of illegal funding.
08:21They wanted to go ahead
08:23based on that.
08:25If they had gone ahead,
08:27there could have been
08:29a lot of problems.
08:31First of all,
08:33Pakistan has not a population
08:35of 2 crore people.
08:37If we look at it,
08:39apart from the few people
08:41in the form of 47,
08:43the whole of Pakistan is PTI.
08:45They have seen this in the election.
08:47Now, the large number of people
08:49who are in the election
08:51can not be stopped
08:53by any association or membership.
08:55You are depriving them
08:57of their right to vote.
08:59You want the biggest party
09:01in the country
09:03to be banned
09:05on the pretext of voting.
09:07If we look at the issue
09:09of funding,
09:11you should look at
09:13what you have done.
09:15You did not attack the Supreme Court.
09:17You did not talk about the
09:19generals.
09:21You did not involve the army
09:23in the Mumbai attacks.
09:25You did not involve the army in the Mumbai attacks.
09:27You did not involve the army in the Mumbai attacks.