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00:00It is clear that the same PTI leaders, we have run all the shots,
00:04who said a few weeks ago that they will not talk to them,
00:08they will only talk to the establishment, they have no time, they are puppets, they are poor,
00:12we will talk to the army chief, we will talk to the DGSI, we will talk to the force.
00:16Today they are saying a hundred times a day that we are ready to talk to everyone.
00:20This change is not coming, but it has come. What is the reason for this?
00:24I don't think that the change has come.
00:28The reason for this is that Imran Khan's speech today,
00:32he is saying that what is this news I am reading in the newspapers,
00:36that the way there is a friendly atmosphere,
00:40there is a time of happiness, there are puppets, what is my party doing?
00:44I am not distrusting my party, but my party is behaving in such a way that nothing has happened.
00:54The change has come in the attitude of the party leadership.
00:58What is the reason for this? And if it has come without Mr. Khan's approval,
01:00then this is even more surprising.
01:02No, now there are two or three things,
01:04if your innocent question stops for a minute,
01:08then there are two or three reasons for this.
01:10The first reason is that this government will never want to negotiate,
01:14because this government is the beneficiary of this fight between the establishment and Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf.
01:20And the second thing is that you listen to the speech of Prime Minister Shahbaz Shaikh and Chief Minister Maryam Nawaz,
01:28that they are terrorists, terrorists, we have to clean this filth.
01:32And on the other hand, Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf took a very good step,
01:38that this committee was formed immediately after 26 November,
01:42and that committee, for the first time, Imran Khan is saying that the demands,
01:48which Imran Khan has repeated in the conversation today,
01:50that the committee has, for the first time,
01:52the election has been held, and this government has been accepted,
01:54the election has not been held.
01:56That is, the prisoners should be released, the prisoners should be released,
02:00and the Judicial Commission should be formed on 9th May and 26th November.
02:04So, while saying this, while giving his opinion,
02:06that the final solution is in negotiations and negotiations,
02:10but I don't think that Imran Khan is saying something that this committee is doing.
02:17At least the environment that Imran Khan is seeing, and there are very simple reasons for this.
02:22One reason is that there are wrong numbers in Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf,
02:28there are brutists, there are compromised people, and there are some under pressure people.
02:33And the second reason is that no one is able to meet Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf and Imran Khan,
02:39except for a few people.
02:41And for three years, Imran Khan has not been able to meet the party completely.
02:45So, two demands and a D-chalk, and then 9th May, and then the election.
02:50So, I don't think that there will be such a breakthrough from both sides.
02:56And Imran Khan is saying that if this is not accepted, then the way of civil disobedience is ahead.
03:02So, ultimately, Amir sahib, do you think that this is a matter of a few days?
03:07Like, a while ago, Khan sahib suddenly made a statement,
03:10through him, Ali Imran Khan sahib,
03:12Sipah-e-Salaar, today General Dyer, even before that,
03:15sometimes Sheikh Mir Jafar Mir sahib,
03:18suddenly, two or three days ago, he said,
03:20we are Sipah-e-Salaar, we request them to back off, to be neutral.
03:25See, these people are trying to make us fight, to make us fight the Noon League,
03:29but if there is no response from there, then again Khan sahib started talking.
03:33Do you still think that ultimately, this matter will continue for three or four days,
03:36or like in the old days, there will be strictness from here and violence from there?
03:42Day before yesterday, when the ISPR issued a press release,
03:46and mentioned General Faiz's investigation on 9th May,
03:49on the same day, Imran Khan sahib said in a £190 million of 342,
03:53that he made a retired general an army chief.
03:56Keep this in mind.
03:57Yes, of course.
03:58That anger is not coming down at any cost, it is not coming to an end.
04:02And even today, when he was saying all this,
04:05it was in his mind that instead of 25 crore people,
04:0850 crore people are standing with him for the revolution.
04:11And my party is playing Goody Goody.
04:13And he expressed his suspicion that there was a wrong report in the newspapers.
04:17So, the journalists said, this is not the newspapers,
04:20this is live on television, the speeches of your leaders.
04:23So, on that, he felt that my people are doing wonders.
04:26I mean, I have prepared the nation for the revolution,
04:29and they are talking about this.
04:31So, there is no doubt that they will be in a bad shape.
04:34Just like Khan sahib took his wife, Guluqar Salman,
04:38who is in the middle,
04:40she is standing in her place.
04:43Because she had sworn that she would stay alone in D-Chowk.
04:47But she left before she was alone.
04:50And the poor workers, when the air raids started,
04:53they also got destroyed.
04:55They were in a bad shape.
04:57So, this situation is such that...
04:59Amir sahib, I am asking you,
05:01I am sorry for interrupting you.
05:03It is wrong to say that Imran Khan sahib felt that
05:06this circle has become very tight.
05:08Faiz sahib's press release has come.
05:10That's why he immediately lied down and said,
05:12do a joke, do a joke.
05:13No, it seems that he did not say,
05:15the party has added more sweetness.
05:17Sweetness or he has understood more
05:19that whatever is happening with him,
05:21he has an idea of what has happened on the ground.
05:24And how many people had left Punjab from Pindi Islamabad?
05:27Because if Pindi Islamabad itself had come out,
05:30even the appeal of the Ansar to have food,
05:32I did not see those Ansars,
05:34who used to come in the past.
05:36Because Gandapur sahib had come and gone.
05:38And this time, the story of Tirth Mahoshrooba,
05:40which Umar Ayub has narrated,
05:42the Hollywood people should make films here.
05:44They should ask about the cars.
05:46The one that was moving around on the cement barriers,
05:48and kept coming out of the middle of the containers,
05:50it is shown in the films,
05:53so Khan sahib should understand that
05:55the leadership with which he is walking,
05:57where has he been compromised?
05:59With whom has he been compromised?
06:01Because he does not narrate a story of 8 hours,
06:03nor does he narrate a story of 30 hours,
06:05nor does he narrate a story of reaching like this.
06:07That is why I say that until he does not narrate this story,
06:09Governor Raj is also not looking.
06:11Khan sahib should come towards real life.
06:13It is absolutely right,
06:15he has a lot of acceptance, everything is there.
06:17But he cannot bring the establishment to his knees.
06:19So the way of conversation,
06:21when the establishment says that you apologize,
06:23and you talk to the government,
06:25then many of our friends think that
06:27what kind of government is this?
06:29The government is the same as Khan sahib,
06:31who used to say that I did not do anything,
06:33General Bajwa used to do it.
06:35He started saying it later,
06:37you and everyone in front of us.
06:39Before that, he used to say that there is no greater
06:41democratic general than this.
06:43And today he has suddenly said that
06:45if General Faiz is there on 9th May,
06:47then let him find General Bajwa.
06:49The instructions are of Imran Khan
06:51and the action is of General Faiz.
06:53So on 26th November,
06:55he was also involved in stopping the
06:57inauguration of Army Chief.
06:59On 25th May, when he brought the procession from Peshawar,
07:01he was also involved.
07:03Now you and I will get 3-4 things in between
07:05that I don't know,
07:07a new U-turn is coming from the army.
07:09The army is continuously saying that
07:11they are standing on that stand
07:13that you have attacked the installations.
07:15You will have to turn towards it.
07:17If you are not doing it,
07:19then there is no one for you.
07:21In fact, you can see the decision of 190 million pounds.
07:23And after the appointment of new judges
07:25in Islamabad High Court,
07:27you will get a new division bench
07:29which will listen to the appeal of this decision.