Rauf Hassan kay Sath Custody Kay Doran Kiya Kuch Howa? Shocking Revelations
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Rauf Hassan kay Sath Custody Kay Doran Kiya Kuch Howa? Shocking Revelations
Rauf Hassan kay Sath Custody Kay Doran Kiya Kuch Howa? Shocking Revelations
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00:00In general Faiz Ameed's view, his court martial, his arrest, military custody, accusations,
00:07that he was involved in some things even after his retirement,
00:09it would be easier to know what the army is thinking today,
00:14if we look at today's ISPR press release,
00:18which was the core commander conference, of course,
00:21under the leadership of Sipa Salar and Asim Munir Sahib.
00:24After that, the press release that has come,
00:26the relevant part of it, he says that the army,
00:29through its unwavering determination, strong calculation,
00:33and strict calculation, it maintains its dignity.
00:39In strict calculation, there is no room for any kind of exception.
00:45Then see, in strict calculation,
00:47in strict calculation, there is no room for any kind of exception,
00:51there can be no reason, and there is no exception,
00:53there is no exception.
00:55When this press release is coming,
00:57at that time, a former DGI of Pakistan,
00:59who was one of the most powerful people in Pakistan,
01:03one of the two or three most powerful people,
01:06he is in military custody at the moment,
01:08and in such a situation, the army's declaration says that
01:10there is no kind of exception in strict calculation,
01:13there is no exception, there is no exception.
01:15Further, the strict calculation system in the army is necessary for the stability of the institution.
01:21So, he is also saying that this is not a matter of one person,
01:25it is necessary for the stability of the institution, for the stability of the army,
01:28that strict calculation is done.
01:30Because, he further said,
01:32no person is superior or superior to the calculation system.
01:38Whoever it is, XYZ,
01:40he is not superior to the calculation system.
01:42And then further, another reference was also said by today's press release,
01:45that the forum, through strict cyber security measures,
01:48emphasized the protection of national cyberspace.
01:52So, it is easy to understand that
01:56the things that are going on regarding cyber issues,
02:00a special thinking, an official version of it is coming forward.
02:03So, it is coming forward.
02:05This is today's big development.
02:07But, a very important question is that,
02:09on the most important issues,
02:10the central translator of the Pakistan's Aham Jamaat,
02:15the person who is in charge,
02:16what is he thinking?
02:17And he himself, in the last few days, we all saw in the news,
02:21that he himself was under custody.
02:23Now, he has been released.
02:24And, of course, he is fulfilling the duties of the party's translator.
02:27I am really thankful that he is with us.
02:29Mr. Rauf Hassan,
02:32of course, the senior adviser of Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaaf.
02:34Sir, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
02:36Wa-alaikum-as-salam, Wasim.
02:38Such a pleasure being in your program.
02:41Thank you very much.
02:42Always a pleasure having you in the show, sir.
02:43Thank you very much for your time.
02:44Really grateful.
02:45Sir, first, if you allow me,
02:47I would like to ask you,
02:49your release process has now come into effect.
02:52During this time,
02:55was there any physical torture or any such situation?
03:00I don't like to discuss this.
03:05No, not at all.
03:07They were very civil.
03:10Obviously, interrogation and everything else,
03:12you know, that was conducted.
03:13And as far as their attitude was concerned,
03:18wherever I have been, wherever I have been captive,
03:21their attitude was very civil.
03:23And just one last thing on this,
03:25then we will move forward.
03:27Were there any inhuman conditions in which you were kept?
03:32Inhuman will have to be defined.
03:35When you are in captivity,
03:36you are not a free person.
03:38So, it is imperative that there are no five-star facilities.
03:43If you are in a cell, then you are in a cell.
03:46But inhuman will have to be defined.
03:48Whatever our normal habitations are there,
03:55the conditions of the normal cells,
03:57I have also been in that.
03:59I have also survived.
04:01Correct, okay.
04:02And sir, during this time,
04:04the things that came from you,
04:06that he was in contact with a journalist,
04:08this and that,
04:10was it all an imposition?
04:13Was it all fake?
04:15Or do you own what came in front of you?
04:17And your position is that there is nothing wrong in it?
04:20Or was it all fake?
04:23Look, I am the Central Information Secretary of the party
04:26and I am also its Principal Spokesperson.
04:29Now, it is my responsibility
04:32that I contact the journalist community
04:35in Pakistan and outside Pakistan.
04:39Karan Thapar belongs to India,
04:43but he is a professional voice.
04:47He is recognized all over the world.
04:49And I have had a lot of conversations with him.
04:55I have not seen what he leaked.
04:57It is imperative that he must have taken it from my phone.
05:02So, I don't see anything wrong in it.
05:06If I don't keep in touch with him,
05:08then he will be my failure as the Information Secretary of the party.
05:11He has also spoken to a few other people about my contacts.
05:15There is nothing in him
05:18on the basis of which you can make cases against me.
05:22Is your mobile phone still in your possession?
05:25No, it is not in my possession yet.
05:27That telephone was taken
05:29and it is still with him.
05:31Look, I am saying this with a lot of pain.
05:36But I should say that
05:39we have put a custom in this country
05:43that we give the certificate of treachery
05:47and the certificate of treachery.
05:49This should end.
05:51In our own context,
05:55in the role we are playing,
05:57we all love this country.
06:00We want this country to develop.
06:04We want the institutions of this country to be strong
06:07and play their role.
06:09We want them to contribute to this country.
06:12But there is a fundamental requirement.
06:14Until we fulfill that fundamental requirement,
06:17we will continue to wander in the zone of conflict.
06:21And that fundamental requirement is that
06:23there is a constitution of this country.
06:25And in that constitution,
06:27there is a list of all the institutions.
06:31And until we live in that constitution
06:34and play our role,
06:36all the institutions, one and all,
06:38the country will not be able to get out of this crisis.
06:43Mr. Doctor, in complete agreement with this,
06:46that this issue of the certificate of treachery
06:49should end,
06:50I am asking you in agreement with this,
06:52do you think that in this regard,
06:54there have been some mistakes,
06:56even in the past,
06:57for example,
06:58you are accusing a journalist
07:00that this is the political environment in this country,
07:03the institutions are interfering,
07:05and you are accusing an Indian journalist
07:07that our army is doing this.
07:08Mr. Khan's statements are on record,
07:10that Zardari complains to the US
07:12that our army is doing this,
07:13that is why he is a traitor.
07:14Nawaz Sharif criticizes FOB,
07:16and he criticizes an army chief,
07:18and he criticizes FOB,
07:19this is Modi's friend.
07:20This is also a very blatant statement,
07:23it is okay to criticize,
07:24but to say he is a traitor,
07:25is a little dangerous.
07:27Look, Mr. Waseem,
07:29it's an all-encompassing statement,
07:31which I have said,
07:32this is from anyone,
07:34ABC, XYZ,
07:36no exceptions.
07:39We will have to stop
07:41binding the certificate of treachery
07:43and the certificate of treachery.
07:46We will have to trust our people,
07:48we will have to develop faith in our people.
07:51We have a lot of crises, Mr. Waseem.
07:53Yes, that's right.
07:54Now look,
07:55there is an economic crisis,
07:56there is a security crisis,
07:57we have geostrategic crises.
07:59And until the nation is not united,
08:01until the units of this country are not united,
08:04until the people are not together,
08:06until the credible government
08:08and legitimate government are not installed,
08:10democratic principles are not followed,
08:13the sanctity of the constitution is not violated,
08:16the country is not united under one umbrella,
08:19the people cannot be united under one umbrella,
08:22our problems cannot be solved.
08:24I am not saying anything wrong to anyone,
08:26I am not saying anything right to anyone.
08:28This basic principle should apply to everyone.
08:31If you want to move forward,
08:32you will have to understand a few things.
08:34Now look, in the context of Don Leaks,
08:36Mr. Rahul,
08:37treachery is on one side,
08:38but the military courts that are being discussed a lot these days,
08:41senior leaders of PTI used to come on television
08:45and give arguments that
08:46this Don Leaks proves that
08:48all these people are traitors,
08:49hence their case should go to the military court.
08:52On record.
08:53I will repeat my statement again.
08:57I am not creating any exceptions in my statement.
09:00Correct. Absolutely right.
09:01I am not creating any exceptions.
09:04We will have to change ourselves.
09:06We will have to change our way.
09:08We will have to commit ourselves
09:10to the state of Pakistan.
09:12Very appropriate. Absolutely right.
09:13And when you say there is no exception in this,
09:15then the matter is over. Absolutely right.